Any attempt at an explanation always ends up being "God is playing 10D chess, against himself"
>>17269705he's playing 2d cheese against christain lil kid buttholes, and winning
It's easily solvable for anyone who drops the embarrassingly childish image of the source of all creation as being remotely close to humans in thinking and morality.
>>17269731Okay, so God is nothing like what's described in the scriptures. Great. Why should I care about whether he exists or not?
>>17269731This. The problem of evil exists because the Christians checkmated themselves with a shitload of retarded dogma, all to justify the canon of the Israelite ethnocult.>>17269739If you're a human woodchip with absolutely zero curiosity, insight or internal monologue, I can see how the nature of things might be uninteresting to you. But if you have more than two braincells to rub together, the logical conclusion from that anon's proposition is that you shouldn't give a shit about the extremely laughable "scriptures".
>>17269772If the creator cared to make himself or itself known to us we would already be aware.
>>17269786I have known it. Maybe it just doesn't like you.
>>17269790>Invokes a spirit>Experiences some synchronicities>Sees miracles>GUYS I KNOW THE CREATOR!
>>17269790>I have known it.gotta love it when christcucks lie, best part really
>>17269721fpbp
>>17269721chrsitsisters?
>>17269705The only real monotheist solution is "God doesn't care and what we call good and evil are only imperfect human judgments"
>>17269864Correct.I'm totally open to god existing. All religions are self evidently false though.
>>17269864>"God doesn't care and what we call good and evil are only imperfect human judgments"seems logical, if he really cared he'd let us know, cause he simply can, it wouldn't be a compilation of jewish fairy tales only that apparently only they could see >only they could see that's pretty schizophrenic, which is very aligned with being jewish and christuckery
>>17269881Hugh Grant, is that you?
>>17269705How is he supposed to stop evil?
>>17269731>he is just so far beyond comprehension that the doctrine is unquestionable>source is trust him bro>he made you and everything so he can do what he wants>he invented morals bro so of course w/e he does is good even if it contradicts his stated moralsTruly faith's strongest arguments. How about you put faith in your fellow Christians to make better arguments instead of wasting everyone's time with the variations of he is unquestionable drivel. Only one you're convincing is yourself cause it's such an obvious cope.
>>17269805None of the above. When you know you know.
>>17270095>stop evilBy the point that there is evil there is already fault with him. He is literally all powerful, can see the future, and created everything. The Bible says you can tell a tree by it's fruits. There is no contradiction between a free will and having a perfectly good nature according to his supposed existence. So we cannot blame that for evil. We can only say he created us with a nature prone to evil. However, I will answer your question directly. Literally anything since he is all powerful so use some imagination. He could just make all evil natures into good natures. That seems like the best option to me.
>>17269705>God is playing 10D chess, against himselfOnly an atheists would answer this shit.The "problem" of evil is nothing. Duality has good and evil, and it doesn't affect God.
>>17269731based actually
>>17270303if it doesn't affect god, yet you argue god created, thereby you mean god had no power over morality and thus exists neutrally? You're a retarded faggot
>>17269705What about the problem of suffering being solved through people learn through suffering and it brings it closer to Christ?We are students and God is the teacher though himself, bright the holy spirit and through Jesus Christ
>>17269731This is the most retarded argument I've seen here but for some reason, it gets repeated over and over again"God is incomprehensible" then by this logic we have no idea if God is actually good, or what pleases God or what displeases him, because he's incomprehensible. Therefore, there is zero point to religion because we will never understand God. Maybe God actually hates being worshiped? Or maybe he likes being worshiped sometimes, but not all the time and what days he likes being worshiped are completely random. That's what "incomprehensible" truly means, it isn't "oh there's this one logical contradiction with God that I can't explain or come up with a reason to justify therefore he's incomprehensible"
>>17270820so you think you can comprehend your nigger god.
>>17270820>God is incomprehensible is true.because that why they have many sects to worship this nigger.
>>17269705Evil exists as a contrast.
>>17269705"The problem of evil" is disingenuous because it either requires an a priori sense of "evil" which can conveniently be adjusted to whatever point is being discussed at a particular moment, to the detriment of the opposing party. Or you introduce a predetermined definition of "evil" which is fallacious as it introduces secular ethics into a religious debate, trying to fir the square in the round hole.In a monotheistic religion, what God does is good and what opposes God is evil. "The problem of evil" is not unsolvable by Monotheism, it doesnt exist at all.
>>17270799Did I argue that God created duality? You're dumb as fuck. You better never return here.
>>17269705>unsolvableThe solution is trinity. done
>>17269731So it's wrong to say we're in the image of God.
>>17269705no>>17269721>2d cheeseno matter how much jews fuck your brain up with depravity, it's still not an excuse not to proofread your posts, anon
>>17269790>>17269805>>17269810i have too
>>17269721oh no no no no
>>17270820I don't believe God is real (at least the jewish God of the Bible) because he wants to be worshipped, that's the petty debased wish of lowly tyrants. Any mature person finds such a desire pathetic, I wouldn't want to be worshipped, that means mentally I am more mature than God, which means the God of the Bible is bs.Imagine a developer who created a videogame world just for the npcs in said world to worship him, wouldn't you find that pathetic and crazy?
>>17272337The "image of god" trope is a reference to Enki and Ninmah engineering us from their DNA, and us looking somewhat like them.The Prime-Creator-Of-All-Things is conceptually more like the gnostic Yaldabaoth, but really is just the one thing that is all things; the source of light. Humans misconceive this as an "evil imposter" since the true basis is nothingness, the great emptiness, which preceded Yaldabaoth -- but which is without identity or self, thus he imposes himself upon it.In truth there is no error in this; the error is our own, in attempting to judge the true source; the darkness which gives necessity to light: 1/0 0/1 0/0 and 1/1 ...Sophia ("wisdom") is really just the "knowing of logic" - a self-aware process constantly in flux; consciousness, which descends out of the contradiction of nothing vs. something. This is all widely misunderstood; again, mostly through the human need to judge in human terms the acausal state of being; Monad. Our "religions" conflate the historical genetic engineering of mankind with the much older cosmology of Gnosticism, though the two are completely different topics.
>>17271850If you are a Christian, why is everything that God does good but not everything the "God of this world" does?If you aren't a Christian, then my answer is that in your worldview God is justified and omnibenevolent if tomorrow one billion sadistic angels descend from heaven and begin raping and torturing whomever they see, and no less good than a hypothetical God who created humans which no more rape or murder than we real humans put out our eyes with our ring fingers
>>17269721It ain't the straight priests sodomizing the choir boys you midwit faggot
>>17270820>we have no idea if God is actually goodYour subjective morality does not matter>>17274021>wouldn't you find that pathetic and crazy?See above
>>17274184correct, it's the pedohomo ones
>>17269739depends what scripture. Jewish scripture god is a massive asshole who regularly punishes and torments his own worshipers. Then you have muslim scripture where god is once against a massive ass hole It's pretty much only Christianity that makes him seem somewhat loving and moral but even then god can be a massive tyrant for no reason in the gospels. in luke, god kills a man for daring to build a bigger barn to store his excess grain.maybe you are just ignorant of scripture?
>>17269786If you take a step back and think of God as the best possible being, it actually becomes obvious pretty quick why he would need to have relatively limited direct action.The best possible being would want to increase goodness in the world, and would be omnipotent. So it couldn't simply go at its goal with its maximum power, since that would pose a logical contradiction: that would be adding ∞ goodness to the world. (Perhaps making the population ∞ happy people, for illustration)But actual infinities like that are self-contradictions. So that's not a logically possible option.What's the next best thing to an actual infinity? A potential infinity. So the best possible being would ensure the quantity of goodness was that. That's why time exists: goodness needs to be something always increasing.The best possible being would do precise what's needed to ensure that, but no more, otherwise it comes to "how much more?" and we run into the same issue again.So when something threatens the growth of goodness in the world as a whole, then the best possible being would act to ensure its value is always a potential infinity. But otherwise it would refrain from directly improving the world to avoid infinite regressions.So it directly revealing itself would be very rare. It wouldn't be surprising that you hadn't personally been present in a situation where God's direct action was crucial for the growth of goodness in the world as a whole, would it?
