>>17274813
>Yahweh son of Elohim
Elohim means gods, so this is false
>pagan trinitarianism
Another baseless claim which I will address through scripture in this post and in a reply to this post.
Provide me one pagan religion with a doctrine even close to the trinity.
The OT teaches a multipersonal God
Zechariah 2
>8 For the Lord of armies says this: “After glory He has sent me against the nations that plunder you, for the one who touches you, touches the [d]apple of His eye. 9 For behold, I am going to wave My hand over them so that they will be plunder for their slaves. Then you will know that the Lord of armies has sent Me.
The Lord of armies YHWH, claims to be sent by YHWH
And he does it again in verse 11
>11 “And many nations will join themselves to the Lord on that day and will become My people. Then I will dwell in your midst, and you will know that the Lord of armies has sent Me to you.
Genesis 19
>24 Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah from the Lord out of heaven,
Lord raining fire from the Lord out of heaven, Lord on earth and Lord in heaven, a multipersonal God
Isaiah 48
>16 Come near to Me, listen to this:
From the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
>From the time it took place, I was there.
>And now the Lord [b]God has sent Me, and His Spirit.”
Here YHWH claims to be sent by YHWH and his spirit
Hosea 1:7
>7 But I will take pity on the house of Judah and save them by the Lord their God, and will not save them by bow, sword, battle, horses, or horsemen.”
YHWH claims he will save Judah by YHWH, divine plurality again

>>17274871
>>17274813
The messiah is God according to the OT
Daniel 7
>13 “I kept looking in the night visions,
>And behold, with the clouds of heaven
>One like a son of man was coming,
>And He came up to the Ancient of Days
>And was presented before Him.
>14 And to Him was given dominion,
Honor, and [a]a kingdom,
>So that all the peoples, nations, and populations of all [b]languages
>Might serve Him.
>His dominion is an everlasting dominion
>Which will not pass away;
>And His kingdom is one
>Which will not be destroyed.
Cloud riding is only attributed to God in the OT
Deuteronomy 33:26
>26 “There is no one like the God of [a]Jeshurun,
>Who rides the heavens [b]to your help,
>And the clouds in His majesty.
Isaiah 19:1
>Behold, the Lord is riding on a swift cloud and is about to come to Egypt;
Isaiah 53:11
>11 As a result of the [a]anguish of His soul,
>He will [b]see it and be satisfied;
>By His knowledge the Righteous One,
>My Servant, will justify the many,
For He will bear their wrongdoings.
>12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
>And He will divide the plunder with the strong,
>Because He poured out His [c]life unto death,
>And was counted with wrongdoers;
>Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
>And interceded for the wrongdoers
The servant will justify many, but according to Isaiah, YHWH will justify Jeshurun
>24 They will say of Me, ‘Only in the >Lord are righteousness and strength.’
>People will come to Him,
>And all who were angry at Him will be put to shame.
>25 In the Lord all the offspring of Jeshurun
>Will be justified and will boast.”
The servant will also intercede according to Isaiah 53:12, which is again exclusive to YHWH
Isaiah 59
>16 And He saw that there was no one,
>And was amazed that there was not one to intercede;
>Then His own arm brought salvation to Him,
>And His righteousness upheld Him.
Therefore, the servant/messiah/son of man is YHWH

>>17274871
The Original Vedic religion, Brahmanism was pretty close with 3 figures being aspects of the same being

>>17274813
>>17274871
>>17274875
St. Paul believed Jesus is God
1 Corinthians 9:10
> 9 Nor are we to put the Lord to the test, as some of them [a]did, and were killed by the snakes.
Numbers 21:5-6
>5 So the people spoke against God and Moses: “Why have you brought us up from Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no [a]food and no water, and [b]we are disgusted with [c]this miserable food.”
>6 Then the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people and they bit the people, so that many people of Jeshurun died.

>>17274813
Judaism emerged in 70ad

Clusterfuck religions.

>>17274871
>Yahweh son of Elohim
>Elohim means gods, so this is false
Uh, wtf did I just read? "Yahweh can't be a son of the gods... because he just can't okay?" I don't understand this ridiculous reasoning. It doesn't matter if you interpret "elohim" as one god or many. Yahweh is a son of elohim.

The polytheist Israelites referred to the chief god of the pantheon as ʿelyôn “The Most High”, one of the epithets of El seen in Gen 14:20 in the phrase ʾel ʿelyôn.

Deuteronomy 32:8-9
>When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance,
>when he divided mankind,
>he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of elohim (gods).
>For YHWH’s portion is his people,
>Yaʿăqōb is the allotment of his inheritance.
In other words, Yahweh was one of these recipients of an inheritance from the highest god and Yahweh is a son of the gods. If an ancient Greek were to ask an ancient Israelite if Israel was chosen by God, he would say no, Israel was inherited by Yahweh and Greece was inherited by Zeus.

http://dssenglishbible.com/scroll4Q37.htm

>>17276619
>Yahweh is a son of Elohim
Extremely false biblically and historically, and what do you even mean Elohim? Son of which El of the Elohim?
>Deuteronomy 32
This again…
El is just another name for the same God in the OT, Yahweh is the God of Bethel (House of El), which is more proof that Yahweh and El are different names for the same God.
The word used for “most high” doesn’t mean El specifically. Not to mention that El is used as another name for Yahweh.
The passage nowhere states that Yahweh inherited his people.
His portion being his people simply means that they are his children. It doesn’t mean he received them from El. (Who is Yahweh himself)

>>17277267
>Deuteronomy 32
>This again…
I accept your concession

>>17277306
It wasn’t a concession
I’m saying this again because it’s the third time I hear this dumb argument.
Proof is that you didn’t even make any arguments against what I said.
I claim victory if you don’t answer

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>>17277779
You don't have any reading comprehension skills. There's nothing to respond to other than point out you are either ESL or hopelessly stubborn. You've been btfo by scripture and there is nothing to debate. It says right there what YHWH's portion of the inheritance is. Why is he inheriting something? Because Elyon and Yahweh are different entities.
I accept your concession.

>>17274882
Even some Celtic gods had 3 figures being the same god or goddess.

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>>17274871
>Provide me one pagan religion with a doctrine even close to the trinity.

>>17276619
>Deuteronomy 32:8-9
>When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance,
I was just looking over this clause again, and it seems it may present some translation difficulties.

These appear to be reasonable interpretations:
International Standard Version
>When the Most High gave nations as their inheritance,

Smith's Literal Translation
>The Most High distributing the nations,

Douay-Rheims Bible
>When the Most High divided the nations:

Brenton Septuagint Translation
>When the Most High divided the nations,

The Literal Standard Version is explicit about the structure of the clause:
Literal Standard Version
>In the Most High causing nations to inherit,
The key misunderstanding in many translations seems to be that this is actually conveying "causing nations to BE inherited". A succinct translation is then:
>When the Most High bequeathed the nations

Various translations for comparison:
https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/32-8.htm

>>17277795
You have subhuman analytic skills
>the word El is not used
>only the title most high
>El is also a name for Yahweh
>Yahweh is also God of Bethel (House of El)
>Yahweh is El
>passage doesn’t say Yahweh inherited anything
>Jacob is Yahweh’s portion because they were his chosen people, they are the people of Yahweh, unlike others
>doesn’t say Yahweh inherited Jacob
>it literally says he gave NATIONS their inheritance, no mention of gods inheriting anything
>writer of Deuteronomy never said El is the father of Adonai, no reason for us to think this passage is anything different
You get it now?

>>17277811
Not even close
The trinity is 3 distinct persons that are fully the same being, picrel is not that

>>17278084
>passage doesn’t say Yahweh inherited anything
You're outright lying.
It says:
>For YHWH’s portion is His people,
>Jacob is the allotment of His inheritance.
How can he have an allotment of an inheritance unless he inherited something? You must be tying your brain into knots over this.

>it literally says he gave NATIONS their inheritance,
The translation issues in the first clause have mostly been addressed here: >>17277864
The Hebrew doesn't actually talk about nations receiving an inheritance. Without knowing any Hebrew you can see here that the first clause only consists of three words:
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/deuteronomy/32-8.htm
You can click on the first word and see that it means bequeath in the hiphil conjugation and that the recipient is marked by the accusative or direct object marker (DOM). As "nations" are not marked accusative in the Hebrew (English works differently where "nations" can be the direct object in a fluent translation), it is not correct to read "nations" as the recipient. Hebrew uses the DOM in constructions like this to mark the recipient because the verb conveys "causing someone to inherit something" where "someone" would be the optional direct object and "something" the indirect object.

A similar use of the same verb where the object bequeathed is not marked with the DOM can be seen here:
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/49-8.htm

>You get it now?
You get it now?

>>17278090
Wow, you are really good at describing Hecate.

>>17278090
thats literally whats going on there. not the only pagan triune god either. Odin, Ville and Ve are also a trio of Gods that exist as one. there is a difference between a triumvirate of Gods, like Zeus, Neptune, and Hades, and then a triune God, like Hecate

>>17274813
All book-worshipers and therefore irrelevant. Nice thread though.