Why is it that every comment section on videos about myths involving Hades and Persephone is filled with (mostly women) talking about how they had a "loving relationship" and similar stuff? I've even seen comments claiming that he didn’t kidnap her and that she went with him willingly. I can’t find a single reliable source to back this up—everything I’ve read clearly states that he kidnapped her and that she’s in the underworld against her will. Who started this nonsense?
>>17275474Zeus gave her to Hades, women were property and property can't be kidnapped only stolen. Her opinion was irrelevant.
>>17275502Yeah, I know, but Zeus told Hades that he had to capture her because Demeter would never allow that. What I'm interested in is why he had to sneak and not just take her outright. Like, how would Demeter stop Hades or Zeus?
>>17275524I read this myth as the founding of Egyptian civilization, the brother of zues spirits away a maiden of the north from under the nose of the mother of winter into the lands outside of elysium (tartarus/hades) where they rule over all the dead (non god touched) people.
>>17275538Zeus over the lands of elysium and Hades over the lands of the dead, non white people.
what racial worldview did ancient greeks have?
>>17275598>>17275487
>>17275474I think that's mostly teenage girls who have read Lore Olympus and stuff and aren't familiar with the actual myth
>>17275474>talking about how they had a "loving relationship" and similar stuff?Because they did.>I've even seen comments claiming that he didn’t kidnap herHe didn't.>she went with him willingly. Not only did she go willingly, she chose to stay with him when given the chance.>I can’t find a single reliable source to back this upHesiod's Theogeny and the Homeric Hymn to Demeter would be a good place to start.>Who started this nonsense?That would be Hesiod and Homer.
>>17275474>OSP and its consequences have been a disaster for the human raceBlue's videos are always terrible, while Red's are somewhat good (her Hermes and Dionysus videos are decent). But I blame her for half of the brain-dead girls who are ruining anything related to Greek mythology.
>>17275607Lore Olympus doesn't cover any of this and is mostly focused on Apollo, sorry.>>17275524>What I'm interested in is why he had to sneak and not just take her outright.He did. It was a stealth mission to take her from Demeter, not to take her at all.>Like, how would Demeter stop Hades or Zeus?By force. Also, she'd stop life on Earth from occurring, which is what she does when she finds out that her daughter was taken from her.The myth is part of a complex narrative that was part of the Eleusian Mysteries. You have to understand that this isn't zany and whacky comic book stuff where things have to "make sense" but actual religion. Past a certain point it doesn't have to "make sense" because it's conveying a higher truth as told by an oral poet-priest to the laity, it's not trying to accurately convey some historical sequence of events.
>>17275639You’re not even trying
>>17275652Blue's videos are greatFuck you
>>17275474women love dominant men
>>17275474Women find kidnapping hot but can't admit it.
>>17275639>>17276359>>17276375 A relationship that starts traumatically doesn't necessarily have to be bad, and CAN develop into a loving one over time (via Stockholm syndrome if nothing else).
>>17276380True but women can't admit that either.
>>17275474This Bernini statue is simply a masterpiece
Desperate need to "um acktually". Like how every single time Disneys Hercules is mentioned someone has to dash in and point out that Zeus was a serial adulter and Hera wanted to kill Heracles.
>>17275667>Bait is when you make a counter argument backed up by sources.
