There is a psychological war being engaged against Malikism for decades, arguably centuries.Do any Malikis (and non-Malikis) have anything to share?
explain to a noble kuffar what all these different schools of islamic jurisprudence are, preferably in as few words as possible
>>17276595>muh slightly different brand of sand terrorism is better than othersno one caresgo discharge a camel's load or something
>>17278497Bulgarianschizo, do you not have anything fucking better to do than 4chan all day and obsessing with Islam?
>>17278686>BulgarianschizoI have literally no idea who you're talking about. Have you been disturbed by encounters with another individual on this website?
>>17278397The difference at the outset mostly had to do with the degree of textualism vs qiyas in their legal methodology. The Quran and what was at this time still developing into the hadith corpus were the basis for Islamic law. But not all legal questions confronting jurists were clearly answered of course. So the initial basic divide was between more textualist jurists who wanted to get more hardcore about hadith collecting in order to find a narration that answered every question. And more "rationalist" (this did not necessarily mean philosophically and/or theologically rationalist) jurists who favored the use of analogical reasoning to extract verdicts from the existing source material that applied to situations they didn't explicitly cover. That analogical reasoning is called qiyas. So the Quran says God turned Sodom upside down and pelted it with stones. Using qiyas you derive the verdict that the penalty for homosexuality is throwing off a height or stoning.>Hanbali>most textualist school. historically associated with anthropomorphism and a very conservative/restrictive view of Sufism (but not with total anti-Sufism, although this is how modern Salafis would prefer to frame Hanbalism's history). dominant today in the Gulf>Maliki>first textualist school and second most textualist school after Hanbalis. dominant today in North and black Africa>Shafii>first "rationalist" school and first school to develop a written usool (legal methodology). dominant today mainly in the Indian Ocean region of the Muslim world >Hanafi>most "rationalist" school and first school period. largest madhab in the Muslim world. historically spread with Ottoman rule and influence and associated with Sufism. famous/infamous for posing absurd and sickening hypotheticals in their legal books in order to demonstrate legal principles, which probably they picked up from Jewish legal scholarship. dominant today in former Ottoman Empire, Central Asia and the subcontinent
>>17278397>>17278765And then you also have some Salafis who are more less skeptical, sometimes more to the point of rejecting entirely, madhabs because they see them as accretions that prevent a return to a lost purer form of Islam stripped of tradition and superstitions (the anti-superstition part should not be taken to mean they're rationalist in the usual sense either, most very much are not and also believe ridiculous shit as long as it's in a strong enough Islamic source). The differences between the madhabs should not be overemphasized at all though. They share a majority of rulings. You will often hear the claim that it's only 5%, 10%, 15% of law that they disagree on. I don't know who is calculating that and how exactly so I wouldn't trust those numbers but they are substantially the same. And madhab differences are neither (necessarily, there can be a historicaly trend like with Hanbalis more often leaning towards Atharism) indicative of theological differences nor are they "sects". A Maliki can pray in a Hanbali mosque or marry a Hanbali woman with no problem. Also, the differences at the outset have in certain senses diminished over time. Obviously the textualist approach of trying to patch legal holes by finding as many narrations as you can could not have worked and even though Ibn Hanbal (the founder of Hanbalism) himself was very skeptical of qiyas as a whole, his first generation of students was already doing it. They all do use qiyas to some extent so even the methodological differences are not super extreme.There are also different Sufi tariqas or orders historically associated with specific madhabs. The Tijaniyya order are heavily Maliki for example. Most of the "Sufi neo-traditionalist movement" if you want to call it that (a pushback against Salafism coming from al-Azhar linked scholars, in the diaspora this is represented by institutions like Zaytuna) seem to be Hanafi.
>MY kara boga faction is better than your silly kara boga faction!Boo hoo
>>17278397Different madhabs of Sunni Islam have various differing traditions or rules, both contemporary and historical. These differences, some of which are undoubtedly "valid", are under attack due to systemized ignorance within broader Sunnism, especially among the laity.Let me share an example of what's happening today. When Malikis perform Salah (ritual worship), during the standing position they hang their arms to the side (picrel: bottom-right). All other historically "mainstream" sects (Zaydis, Ibadis, and Twelvers, Tayyibi Ismailis, etc) do the same.All other Sunni madhabs (and Salafism) hold their arms together, rested on their torso. It could be positioned below the navel, or between the navel and chest, or on the chest. These are different traditions and vary between Sunni madhabs, but regional traditions may also lead to variations.If someone is unfamiliar with how a Maliki performs Salah (or more accurately unfamiliar with Sunnism and Islam in general), they might think the Maliki person is a deviant, or think they're Shia of some sort. Because of stigma or outright harassment, many Malikis, perhaps even the majority, outside Maliki-majority lands are forced to position their arms on the torso. Many Malikis in Maliki-majority lands are also increasingly praying this way for possibly various reasons.[1/2]
>>17278397>>17278799Imam Malik's reasoning for advocating this style wasn't arbitrary. He lived in the 700s and his methodology was to follow the tradition of Medina and, according to him, the Muslims of Medina prayed this way. This community had spent the most time with the Prophet Muhammad and were presumably considered the most authentic to what the Prophet may have preached.It should be noted that Imam Malik was the only one from Western Arabia. Imam Hanifa is older than Malik by decades but he's from Iraq. Imam Shafi'i lived all over the place but he was born decades after Malik. Imam Hanbal came a little after Shafi'i but he was from Iraq too.While many laity are motivated by ignorance, there's the Salafis who are outright dishonest. They claim Imam Malik never advocated praying that way, and that it was because he was injured after being arrested and tortured by the Abbasid Caliphate that he began praying that way. Sidenote: All four Imams were persecuted by the Ummayad or Abbasid caliphates.Although Salafis splintered off from Hanbalism and many LARP as Hanbalis themselves, the Salafists typically pray with their hands on their chest. Traditional Hanbalis pray with their hands below the navel, which is also what Hanafis do.[2/2]
>>17278799Orthodox-Old Believer schism tier
>>17276595>There is a psychological war being engaged against Malikism for decades, arguably centuries.Oh no! Anyway...
>>17278882Literally no Sunni considers Malikis to be "infidels", you dumb Bulgarian kike. All Sunni madhabs reference sayings from the founders of the other three madhabs per convenience. All Sunni madhabs share the same core canon of Hadiths. All four madhabs can marry each other and pray in the same mosques.
>>17279406>Literally no Sunni considers Malikis to be "infidelsNowhere did I imply that was the case, must I really explain to your retarded inbred monkey brain the obvious meaning of my post?>you dumb Bulgarian kikeI'm not the poster who buckbroke your brain and lives rent free in it, but he's probably a nice guy if he triggered your tiny brain this badly.
>>17278397What the other anon >>17278782 said, there isn't really all that much difference between the traditional schools today because the Sunni synthesis highly prized consensus so they all came to agree on more or less the same rulings over time. Most of the differences these days are stuff like dietary rules. There's a much bigger cleavage between the four traditional schools and the Salafis and other modernist movements.
>>17278882Look at India. Polytheism IS evil.
