Sorry but you will never manage to convince me that these people are any less cancerous than afrocentrist
>>17277053creating the illusion of debate and that both sides of the debate are equally true is just another tactic to normalize fake historyfake history like for example non whites ever being responsible for any ancient civilization anywhere
>>17277053
>>17277053Yeah its larp eurocentricBut we have some Europe ancestry among some ancient Egyptian
I don't see the point of distinguishing themsame shit different color
The only reason you would hide behind any group (race/religion/country/family/haplogroup) is because you fucking know you don't have shit to show for anything individually. So yes, anyone groupbrained enough to debate what race decades old people were is probably going to make a fool of themselves.
>>17277140Excuse me, I meant to say "people who are dead for thousands of years"
>>17277053Eurocopers stealing our history... wow! Nothing now.
>>17277161I forgot the pic
>>17277137>15%Yeah! Very significant, isn't?
>>17277176Why are Egyptians so insecure about anyone saying shit about ancient Egyptian ancestry? you guys seem almost as boring as the Greek or Spanish medicists.I didn't say they were IE or anything like that. said that some samples have a bit of European ancestry, which is different than saying they were European
>>17277053the source is this blog>https://christiansfortruth.com/bbc-documentary-reveals-king-tuts-great-grandmother-tjuyu-had-blonde-hair/so it's bullshit
>>17277183this place is a shithole, this should be been the first comment
>nooo your source was linked through a blog>I only trust newsweek The absolute state of you
>>17277183>>17277134White people are so fucking shamefulI don't think there is a group as we wuzin as whites and blacks. The sad thing is how they do this with cope25 with those samples of 0.8, 0.9 etc etc
>>17277193>nooo your source was linked through a blogexactly, it's garbage, it's a meme blog>The absolute state of youthis shit that you're posting is completely different, king tut being "maybe" r1b is irrelevant and doesn't make him white, just like mexicans being mostly r1b aren't white
>>17277193Eurocentric lie>2010>some sensationalism from a company that sells DNA shit>we wuz Egyptiaz king jameson tut II r1a aryo chariot
if non white people ever made a civilization how come non white people today don't make civilizations? did they forget how?
>>17277211can you go back to /pol/ already?
>>17277211>if non white people ever made a civilization how come non white people today don't make
>>17277217>posts picture of stuff invented and made by white peoplewhat did he mean by that?
>>17277222European architecture is from the Middle East. and the Minotians copied the Egyptians, who in turn copied the Mesopotamians
>>17277231>implying Mesopotamians weren't whitengmi
>>17277140Funny how you can say exactly what is wrong with groupbrained thinking and right after comes a stream of "bUT WaS hE hwUaIt or NigGo?!" You guys deserve each other, goodbye!
>>17277211it's funny how you post that meme article about tut being r1b (that it's debatable and would not matter anyway since brazilians are more r1b than germans and they certainly aren't white) as if you cared about genetics but you probably reject as "jewish" all the myriad studies that came out in the last decades showing ancient menas were always menas
>>17277193These europeans?
>>17277242I accept your defeat
>>17277053Sorry if the science doesn't affirm your racist beliefs. Sorry if all you can do is steal other people's history and culture. >>17277161>our historyYour history is STILL being in the stone age RIGHT FUCKING NOW in many places in Africa. >>17277194DNA tests don't lie.
>>17277053Oy gevalt!
>>17277264what you're posting a faek tweet, not a forensic analysis>DNA tests don't lie.yes and dna tests show that they were definitely not white
>>17277281They actually were. No other race has blonde hair like Ramses did.
>>17277255I don't know who that is or how it is relevant. By the way, some negros are descendants of thomas jefferson but that doesn't meant the founding fathers were black... same here, some brown mutts being related to ancient white royalty doesn't mean much.
>>17277251nope these ones on the left, the white priest kings of early egypt and the pyramid builders. Late egypt descended into a brown mutt shit show and collapsed due to the race mixing.
>>17277297Fake drawing Try again
>>17277286that's a twitter reconstruction, and a few blondes are found everywhere anyway
>>17277300Someone has the HD pic?
>>17277297>nope these ones on the leftthey're not supposed to be either egyptians or europeans, and that's a meme reconstruction from an early 1900s book, "libyans" were often depicted as brown too anyway
>>17277300here negro friend, I baked a new one for you and your nubian brothers to stew over.
>>17277309yes egyptians weren't black, they were brown
>>17277309This does not prove that they were Europeans.>Nubian I m italian, you useless sack of shit
>>17277310Brown people aren't a race because they're just a mutt population which occurs when whites race mix with blacks. Genetics be like that.
>>17277314Wrong
>>17277317Just because the race mixing happened a long time ago doesn't mean they are a unique race now. Arabs are the quintessential definition of a brown mutt people of no distinct race.
>>17277314>Brown people aren't a race because they're just a mutt population which occurs when whites race mix with blacks. brown people aren't an homogeneous ethnicity but if they were alive today the ancient egyptians would have been called brown>Genetics be like that.genetics are really not like that tho, ancient egyptians >>17277281 were 60% natufian(brown)+15%iran_n(brown)+25% anatolian farmer (brownish), nothing resembling a "white person" were involved in the formation of such people
>>17277326>brown people aren't an homogeneous ethnicityThat's what I have been telling you, they're no race because their existence is caused by whites race mixing with blacks. It is a category error to try and claim brown people are a unique race, that error is the source of your confused world view.
>>17277322the "race mixing" happened between populations that weren't white, why do you guys hate genetics so much?
>>17277330>That's what I have been telling you, they're no race because their existence is caused by whites race mixing with blacks. It is a category error to try and claim brown people are a unique race, that error is the source of your confused world view.and i'm telling you that this is definitely not the case and you're wrong, as i explained to you:ancient egyptians >>17277281 were 60% natufian(brown)+15%iran_n(brown)+25% anatolian farmer (brownish), nothing resembling a "white person" were involved in the formation of such people
>>17277338yes, you egyptians were always shitskins
>>17277338You seem to still be confused, the brown natufians and brown whatever else were brown because of race mixing between whites and blacks. They were not a race then or now because they were and are a mutt population of no race.
>>17277341i'm not egyptian, i'm belgian, natufians, iran_n are not white, anatolian farmers were also not white, brownish at best, egyptians were formed by populations that weren't white, they were brown and so were close populations like the "libyans"
>>17277344>were brown because of race mixing between whites and blacks. Cazzo, tell me... so the yamnaya was mulattoes?! They were brown as fuck
>>17277310okay well answer this, if asians (brown people) and blacks (nubians) were the racial enemies of egyptian royalty then who does that leave besides whites for the identity of the ruling class of egyptians?
>>17277344>You seem to still be confused, the brown natufians and brown whatever else were brown because of race mixing between whites and blacks. They were not a race then or now because they were and are a mutt population of no race.no you are confused again, first off, even if natufians/iran_n and anatolian farmers were a "white+black" mixture that would not matter since they would have been brown since at least the mesolithic that happened far before the egyptians, hence making all egyptians (that came after) "brown" anyway. but that's not true either, natufians were formed in the paleolithic, same for iran_meso (from which iran_n largely descends from) and ahgs(from which anatolian farmers largely descend from),, ahgs, natufians and iran_n are a mixture of various brown paleolithic eurasians, only ahgs has a bit of european WHG admixture (while still being largely descended from brown paleolithic middle easterners)
>>17277358other browns, browns hating other browns from other populations of browns is nothing new, here in belgium brown moroccans hate brown turks and vice versa, doesn't make one of them white
>>17277357Pre-modern indigenous European populations were white. The suggestion that europe was populated by negro and brown mutt people until they all magically became snow white 500 years ago is peak retarded propaganda and you should feel bad for pushing or falling for it.
>>17277364no. according to this >>17277309 all asians (brown people) are the racial enemies of egypt's ruling class. This can not be explained as browns not liking browns.
>>17277357many steppe people were very light pigmented as far as kazakhstan, and steppe had no african admixture, the only mulattos are nafris like you(including the ancient nafri that were mulattos), i understand now, you're that weirdo brazilian mulatto trying to make me pass as an "italian" swarthoid, because you have no arguments against me>>17277365egyptians have no Pre-modern indigenous European >>17277297
>>17277368>no. according to this >>17277309 all asians (brown people) are the racial enemies of egypt's ruling class. nowhere it says anything of that sort, it says middle easterners (asians), middle easterners were the enemies of egypt (not "racial" either, no mentions of that), hence it can be explained easily as browns hating browns
>>17277360Again, just because the race mixing happened a long time ago doesn't mean they are a unique race now. Arabs are the quintessential definition of a brown mutt people of no distinct race. The tragic story of north africa and the near east is that thousands of years of importing black slaves has turned those lands into the habitation of brown mutt people with no claim to the original grand civilizations in those places. It is common sense and any child should be able to comprehend such a simple reality.
>>17277053>BBC
>>17277378>Again, just because the race mixing happened a long time ago doesn't mean they are a unique race now.the race mixing happened between brown peoplenatufians, iran_meso/iran_n have zero european (whg) admixture, they're fully brownanatolian farmers/ahgs were almost fully brown with only a tiny bit of european (whg) admixturethis would also not matter, these populations were from the paleolithic, even if these people were black+white=brown mutts, that would have happened thousands of years before the existence of egyptians and therefore the egyptians would have been brown from their inception even according to this dumb logicdo you at least know that the egyptians are a bronze age civilization right?>The tragic story of north africa and the near east is that thousands of years of importing black slaves has turned those lands into the habitation of brown mutt people with no claim to the original grand civilizations in those places. It is common sense and any child should be able to comprehend such a simple reality.we have their genetics, they weren't white
>>17277381it's not the bbc, it's a blog that claims the bbc revealed that (it didn't)
>>17277386The existence of quadroons and mullatos in a region only proves that negro slaves were being used in those places. That is what non white dna always indicates, the existence and use of slaves at some point in the past.
>>17277393no it doesn't, quit being a wrong, they were not white, we have the genetics of confirmed non slaves, they were not white
>>17277397he's probably gonna claim the jooooos altered the samples, you can't win with these retards>>17277393i'm pretty sure levantine, iranian and anatolian cavemen from the mesolithic weren't slaves
>>17277403>>17277397>implying the original populations of the levant and north africa weren't whitefake news on the same scale as the debunked cheeze man reconstruction
>>17277417>implying the original populations of the levant and north africa weren't whiteyes they were not white>fake news on the same scale as the debunked cheeze man reconstructionit's not fake news it's reality, it's time you stop shitposting on /his/, in /his/ we care about genetics, people that descend from people like this (like the egyptians)Distance to: Israel_Natufian0.08944060 Saudi_Jizan0.08946931 Yemenite_Mahra0.09312427 Sudan_Arab_Rashaayda0.09496939 BedouinB0.09919060 Yemenite_Al_Baydaare not white, these are mesolithic cavemen btw, therefore not slaves
>>17277417Ancient MENAs weren't white, we have their genetics , and no they're not from slaves
>>17277391I'm just laughing at BBC
>>17277433Your mistake was concluding that the skin color of modern Levant people means that ancient people there were also brown. The DNA doesn't probe they were brown, it proves the mutts there now have some ancestry from the original white inhabitants.
>>17277452those people were not white and their dna proves that they were not white/european, take the L and go, stop shitposting on /his/, no one cares about your baseless emotional claims, they were objectively not white, your error was mistaking this place for /pol/ where you could say anything unchecked, we can bring up the genotypes of these people and see for ourselves that they were not white
>>17277452>it proves the mutts there now have some ancestry from the original white inhabitants.those samples are hunter gatherers from 12000 BCE, you can't get more "native" than this, if you're genetically close to saudi and have no european admixture (like those samples) you're simply not european
>>17277378nafris and their ilk were always mongrels
>>17277484>>17277474Still no proof they were brown though, you just assume they were brown because brown people are there now.
egypt was irrelevant, there's not even a point in we wuzzing as egyptian, one of the most worthless civilizations ever, if it wasn't for the muh big temple (the pyramids) no one would even think about egypt
>>17277570ancient egypt was as developed as modern sudan, less probably if you think about it
>>17277244they were brown they were fucking brown, the problem here are americans, brown doesn't exist in their vocabulary, you're either white or black, even if you're a brown swarthskin from libya you're classified as "white" as an englishman in that shithole, this was done to include jews and southrons into the white category. even the mexicans they don't call them brown they call them "white hispanics"they simply need to accept the existence of browns, everything will be simpler
It would be seen as weird if a Brazilian went to China and said the great wall of china was built by Brazilian people.But I guess white people don't feel any shame, when they pathetically ask arabs to leave Egypt.
>>17277515>Still no proof they were brown thoughthere's a lot of proof, you're simply denying it outright but unfortunately for you this doesn't invalidate itsee this >>17277281 see ancient egypt, see how they plot close to modern north africans and middle easterners and not with europeanssee how they're modeled as 60% natufian(brown) like the bedouins
>>17277596>they were brown they were fucking brown, the problem here are americans, brown doesn't exist in their vocabulary, you're either white or black, even if you're a brown swarthskin from libya you're classified as "white" as an englishman in that shithole, this was done to include jews and southrons into the white category. even the mexicans they don't call them brown they call them "white hispanics"when you put it that way, this could be the origin of many misconceptions about ancient civilizations, everytime you point out that egyptians were obviously not white you get a reply that makes it pretty obvious they assume you're saying they were black even if not (they were neither black nor white)
>>17277614>there's a lot of proofCherry picking quadroon dna samples to push a narrative isn't proof
>>17277577hilarious when you hear people say "brown people couldn't have build egyptian civilization", as if ancient egypt wasn't some shithole barely better than a bunch of disorganized tribes
>>17277631Yeah, just like the Greeks were nordic kangz.Seethe timmy.
>>17277596>mexicans are whiteno
>>17277637They weren't brown though which is what you tards like to pretend.
>>17277643>Reducing everything to skin colourThey were browner than today, since we got partially bleached due to slavnigger invasion.
>>17277631>Cherry picking quadroon dna samples to push a narrative isn't proofthey're non cherrypicked local egyptians modeled as mostly natufian with some iran_n and anatolian_n >>17277281, your baseless feelings about the argument to push your narrative aren't proof, you bring nothing to the table besides whining , they were not european, they descended from populations that were not europeans
>>17277638that's exactly my point>>17277643they were not white and the egyptians were even less white, much less white
>>17277647The point is to defend the facts, which are that non whites have no claims on the creation of any ancient civilizations. Only modern revisionists have tried to claim otherwise and they do so for unscrupulous reasons, namely to hide the fact that the current policies will ultimately lead to the ruination of modern civilization.
>>17277657>if I spam a mantra 1 million times it will become a realityYour precious aryan kangz and their relatives were the destroyers of actual cultures. Not browns.
>>17277643sotuhern europeans are brown, and ancient greeks were brown faggotsancient egyptians were even browner, literally brown as fuck
>>17277655>greeks were not whitesee this is where it leads, now we even have tards pretending that britain and europe were originally populated by brown people. Give these dumbasses an inch and they'll start claiming white people never existed at all anywhere.
>>17277657>The point is to defend the factsyou didn't defend any fact, since you didn't mention any facts, your whining isn't a fact
>>17277667> now we even have tards pretending that britain and europe were originally populated by brown peoplenope, britain was populated by white people> Give these dumbasses an inch and they'll start claiming white people never existed at all anywhere.there's no dumbass here besides youancient egyptians were brown as hell, literal saudi-tier swarthoids, they were not even in gray area, they were absolutely straight up non whites
>>17277674The facts are that north african, levantine, mesopotamian and european civilizations were all white people, every single one of them. And that brown people aren't a race, they're mutts which came about from race mixing whites with blacks. Cherry picking some mongrel slave dna from a couple thousand years ago to "prove" greeks were negros is frankly so ridiculous you should be ashamed to even suggest it.
>>17277688Nope, browns have always existed outside of SSA and whites. You are a retarded spammer.
>>17277667they were southron homos obsessed with poetry, pederasty and other gay hobbiesDistance to: Greece_BA_Mycenaean0.04378090 Greek_Deep_Mani0.04418103 Italian_Calabria0.04436477 Italian_Campania0.04527396 Italian_Apulia0.04533133 Greek_Apuliaif you consider the southernmost southrons white maybe it's because you're brown yourself, what's your ethnicity? you're clearly no whiter than a southern italian
>>17277691there is literally no dna proof that brown people were ever responsible for anything you claim. all of it can and should be chalked up to the slaves used by whites in those places, which is what was always considered the facts until modern revisionists tried to recast the past as brown and black people being ever relevant.
>>17277211If /pol/trannies are so superior why haven't they built an ethnostate
>>17277698We are. It's an international board where everyone speaks English.
>>17277697There were never whites there you retard. Only way later, with Romans and Greeks, not nordic fags. (some whites you got there lmao)
>>17277688>The facts are that north african, levantine, mesopotamian and european civilizations were all white people, every single one of them.but that's not a fact, that's your baseless opinion>. And that brown people aren't a race, they're mutts which came about from race mixing whites with blacks.they're not a "race" in the sense that a mexican and an iraqi are not the same race but they're both seen as brown, and ancient menas would be seen as brown tooand "brown" people existed since forever, and are not a mixture of blacks and whites, as people have explained to you even just talking about the mesolithic iranians and the natufians, they were not white and they existed thousands of years before the egyptians (and they make up 80% of the ancient egyptian genome)
>>17277697your words have no weight behind them, you didn't show any proofbrown people always existed and the dna proves that, i can post brown people from thousands of years ago
>>17277706>"brown" people existed since forever, and are not a mixture of blacks and whitesThey literally are though. All brown people are a mix of some white and black population.
>>17277713The fact that you can prove brown people existed thousands of years ago is because non whites were used as slaves since the beginning of civilization itself.
>>17277733Whites came from browns, not the other way around retard.
>>17277733>The fact that you can prove brown people existed thousands of years ago is because non whites were used as slaves since the beginning of civilization itself.no anon, tens of thousands of years ago people were cavemen, ancient non white cavement dedicated hunting and gathering, not slaves
>>17277736No you retarded brownoid, brown people are the result of race mixing whites and blacks. You can't mix two brown people and get a white person.
>>17277745Whites evolved from a specific subset of eurasian churka browns retard.
>>17277715> All brown people are a mix of some white and black population.no they are not, at most they can be a mix of brown and black, here ancient non slaves non cherrypicked egyptian samples >>17277281, they were were 60% natufian(brown)+15%iran_n(brown)+25% anatolian farmer (brownish)also why are you posting a pca? i thought you didn't trust the "revisionist science", since it's the same science that tells us ancient egyptians weren't white at all
>>17277754>non cherrypickedno it is afrocentrist revisionist arabist garbage intended to rob the world of its history.
>>17277745>>17277736european hunter gatherers are the europeans, ancient egyptians only had tiny proportions of european hunter gatherers (because anatolian_n had a little bit of european hunter gatherer ancestry), they were therefore not europeans and not white, and the average modern levantine and modern egyptian (that is brown) has as much or in some cases even more european hunter gatherer ancestry than the ancient egyptians
>>17277768>no it is afrocentrist revisionist arabist garbage intended to rob the world of its history.no it's not, you need to quit telling us about your fantasies here, the ancient egyptians weren't white
>>17277776The only fantasy here is the one you continue to espouse, that non whites (who to this day have never produced a functional civilization) were responsible for any ancient ones.
>>17277783>The only fantasy here is the one you continue to espouse, that non whites (who to this day have never produced a functional civilization) were responsible for any ancient ones.source?
>>17277797>source?Going outside and touching grass.
>>17277799>no sources presentedyour defeat has been accepted
>>17277807There are no functional modern non white civilizations on earth today. Go outside and touch grass.
>>17277810>no arguments presentedyour defeat has been accepted
>>17277053>>17277137>>17277193>>17277251>>17277255>>17277264Egypt, a country most recently ruled by Ptolemaic pharaohs (aegean lineage), was also at some point in its several millennia-spanning history ruled by yet another non-local dynasty of euro heritage.The problem in most cases doesn't seem to be that there are a few scattered dynasties of euro origin, but that many of the more interesting ones seem to be.All outrage has a common source;A broken ego.
>>17277810Japan, South Korea, Bahamas.
>>17277818You continue to lose because you push lies. Good luck next time. Maybe you ought to start with realizing wakanda never existed and go from there.
>>17277819>, was also at some point in its several millennia-spanning history ruled by yet another non-local dynasty of euro heritage.it wasn't, the ptolemaics were the first non local dynasty of euro origin, other europeans have ruled egypt (romans, france, britain) but only after the ptolemaics
>>17277825>east asians>not whitehave you even looked at their skin?
>>17277827>You continue to lose because you push lies. but YOU lost because you pushes nonsensical lies >. Maybe you ought to start with realizing wakanda never existed and go from there.>le afrocentrisma few anons were discussing exactly this if you scroll up, you must be americanegypt being proven brown without any doubt =/= egypt being proven blackancient egyptians were brown as their non cherrypicked non slave samples demonstrate
>>17277834just how brown are you seriously? i'm starting to think you're a swarthoid yourself
>>17277810>dah working civilizashiunnnyou fucking retard, ancient egypt wasn't a "working civilization", it was an ancient shitty polity where the average lifespan was 40 years old at most, it worked as well as modern india
>>17277834They're yellow, plus they aren't anywhere near R1b. Also I noticed you ignored the Bahamas, I wonder why that is...
>>17277314HAHAHAHAHAHAHAThis retard has literally NO understanding of genetics No, shit for brained retard, brown people do not genetically cluster as an in between white and black populations. They're unique population clusters that's are all different from each other. Brown middle eastern people are in no way more related to brown native Americans as either of then are to Europeans or sub Sahara Africans.
>>17277836>non cherrypicked non slaveThey are and you know they are but you don't care because that is the agenda you push so you cling to whatever lies sate your ego.
>>17277829then perhaps you should define your line between what could be considered european and not alongside a list of so-far proven pharaoh haplogroups.
>>17277851>brown people do not genetically cluster as an in between white and black populationsthey literally do >>17277715
>>17277852>They are and you know they arenope they are not and i know they are not, they're not any less brown than the non cherrypicked natufian hunter gatherers from 12000 years agothere's no agenda besides yours
>>17277859That's a cline. You literally don't know how to read a PCA
>>17277861What you claim, that non whites were responsible for ancient civilizations, is as asinine as claiming donkeys invented moon rockets. There is no world in which that could have happened.
>>17277858tuts haplogroups is probably not even real, but even if we assume it was it would not mean anything, brazilians are more r1b than germans, brazilians are not white
>>17277866A cline is exactly what you want to show where they cluster relative to eachother.
>>17277869>What you claim, that non whites were responsible for ancient civilizations, is as asinine as claiming donkeys invented moon rockets. There is no world in which that could have happened.you're fucking retarded and your arguments are purely based on emotions, they were objectively proven to be non european>but le browns can't create le marble palacehang yourself you literal brainlet
>>17277873you're fucking retarded mate, egyptians would plot with middle easterners on a pca >>17277164
>>17277877If what you said was true then non whites would have functional modern civilizations and white people wouldn't.
>>17277881The problem you have there is plotting the relative strength of influence a local population had on the surrounding region, which tells nothing about its relationship to the overall picture of all people's relationships as can be seen here >>17277715 which shows correctly that brown people are simply what occurs when whites and non whites mix.
>>17277883>non whites would have functional modern civilizationsYou mean like the Bahamas?>and white people wouldn'tYou mean like Belarus?
>>17277873If they were an in between they wouldn't form in a V pattern. It would be a direct line going from one end to the other.
>>17277898The bahamas was built by white people as a tax haven on a remote island and as a vacation spot for rich white people to enjoy. It has less than nothing to do with non white people unless you count them working menial service jobs at vacation resorts.
>>17277894>The problem you have there is plotting the relative strength of influence a local population had on the surrounding region, which tells nothing about its relationship to the overall picture of all people's relationships as can be seen here >>17277715 which shows correctly that brown people are simply what occurs when whites and non whites mix.you don't understand pcashere a pca with ancient egpytians plotted, they're MENAs, and not europeans
>>17277901Whites split into two groups, eastern and western after leaving behind the black africans. There is also the black austroloid too, which is found in australia and provided the black genetics to the indian continent.
>>17277883>If what you said was true then non whites would have functional modern civilizations and white people wouldn't.bullshit statement, this doesn't mean anythingalso why do you think ancient egypt was "functional", a bunch of inbred monarchs with absolute rule over masses of incredibly poor peasants is "functional"what's functionally different between that and modern iran?
>>17277925Nope. You have no idea how to read a PCA. You don't know what that data is saying. Do you just paste images that you dont understand and then try to ad hoc an explanation?
>>17277922>they're brown because of these brown cherry picked sampleshave you understood nothing?
>>17277911It doesn't matter who it was built by when the argument was whether nonwhites are capable of having functional civilizations. The fact that the Bahamas has been a stable working democracy since it's independence and is run by nonwhites debunks your retardation.
>>17277934They aren't cherry picked. You've been disproven multiple times and just going "you're cherry picking samples!" Isn't an argument because the samples aren't cherry picked.
>>17277934they're not cherrypicked, they're no browner than the average natufian hunter gatherer from 12000 BCE levant, are those hunter gathers from a cave in israel also slaves?
>>17277850Q is, in fact, "Whiter" in a Yamnaya sense than literally anything besides the two branches of R.Of course this ignores the fact that mtDNA tends to be native-selecting in terms of phenotype, resulting in examples such as snow-blonde scandis with asian features despite next to none mongol influence.
>>17277933>Nope.Literally true, whites left behind black africans and black austroloids before diverging into eastern and western whites.
>>17277999
>>17278001White people developed after the first humans migrated out of Africa in 75,000 BC. We developed tens of thousands of years after humans already left Africa.
>>17277946>implying 12k bc levantine people weren't whiteas previously explained, they were white and only later became brown due to race mixing with blacks.
>>17278008As already explained, you're wrong and you repeating yourself over and over doesn't stop the data and genetics from disproving you.
>>17278008>as previously explained, they were white and only later became brown due to race mixing with blacks.they were not, here their samples >>17277433, as explained before your explanations are simply feelings, not real, you need adapt to this reality and leave your feelings behind
>>17278011You have no proof they were brown other than to spuriously claim that because modern brown people live in those places that they must have always been brown.
>>17278008they were not, you didn't prove that they werealso you avoid this question like the plaguealso why do you think ancient egypt was "functional"? a bunch of inbred monarchs with absolute power over masses of incredibly poor peasants is not "functional"what's functionally different between that and modern saudi arabia?why are you treating ancient egypt as some sort of space fearing civilization
>>17278017We have their DNA. They were brown. You going "that's cherry picked" is cope as the samples are not cherry picked. You're just wrong. Ironically you have absolutely no evidence that they were white.
>>17278017>You have no proof they were brownwe have their genotypes, they closest affinities lie with the southernmost middle easterners
>>17278027>We have their DNAYou have dna but not proof they were brown. Let us not forget how shamefully cheeze man was portrayed as a negro when no such evidence ever existed to support such an asinine conclusion.
>>17278035your post is from telegram matewe have proof that the natufians weren't white, see >>17278033
>>17278035Why does it make you so angry that brown people aren't worse than white people?
>>17278038Again, you have dna but not proof they were brown. And of course the brown mixed mutts are related to the original white population, that is why they are brown mutts now at all.
>>17278048irrelevant projection
>>17278053It's not projection. It has been proven that they were brown and you just refuse to accept it. The only explanation is that you're insecure.
>>17278049The DNA proves they were brown and that they cluster separately from white people
>>17278049>Again, you have dna but not proof they were brown. yes actually we have both their dna and proof that they were brown, lean how to read a pca, see the natufians >>17278033, they're not even close to europeyou're clearly some faggot from /pol/ with no understanding of genetics that stumbled here by mistake, literally just go back
>>17278061>>17278062>The DNA proves they were brownit literally does not >>17278035
>>17278069It literally does. One event of cheddar man does not mean that all genetic data can't be used to understand phenotype of ancient people. Also cheddar man was most likely dark skinned as well.
>>17277217>reverse search pic>cairoTop fucking kek, I'm supposed to believe that?Here's the actual, non AI version of Cairo
>>17278069stop spamming that garbage post from telegramthe dna proves that they were brown, see>>17278033 they plot right next to saudis
>>17278085That isn't an AI pic you moron
>>17278073Until they start correctly determining what gene markers cause non white skin they will continue to erroneously assert that white populations were non white.
>>17278095>cherry picked quadroon samples are the similar mutts to mutt arabsyeah, obviously that proves my point
>>17278101We already many gene markers which determine skin color. Cheddar man was brown as were the natufians.
>>17278106They aren't cherry picked. You saying that proves you have no argument
>>17278106>yeah, obviously that proves my pointit's not cherrypicked, therefore your point falls flatnext time you scream "cherrypicked" you will also post a source (not a telegram post) that actually proves that it's cherrypicked, or your claim is invalid
>>17278107Cheeze man was debunked and you are spewing the same line of lies but this time about egypt, greece, and anywhere else you can get away with it.
>>17278101the natufians weren't white and your telegram post that you keep spamming around proves nothing
>>17278113>it's not cherrypickedsays you because that supports your agenda
>>17278114>Cheeze man was debunkedBy who? (And no telegram is not a valid source)
>>17278114>Cheeze man was debunked No, it wasn't.>you are spewing the same line of lies but this time about EgyptNo, I'm not>greeceI never said anything about Greece. >anywhere else you can get away with it.Unlike you I don't try to twist facts or deliberately lie about data to push a narrative. I actually care about the truth.
>>17278114outta here with this cheddar man bs, post a study confirming your claims that the natufians were white or gtfo for once, go back to pol where you belong
>>17278119>says you because that supports your agendano, say the researchers, they're not cherrypicked, period, and if you claim they're cherrypicked you will have to post a valid source supporting your claim
>>17278121google the shit yourself retard
>>17278134Yeah the same lying ass researchers who mocked up a negro cheeze man for social media up votes. Really compelling.
>>17278137>>17278144You need to answer >>17278048
>>17278137>NOOO I CAN'T JUST BACK UP MY OWN CLAIMS YOU HAVE TO DO THAT FOR ME.lol. Also that doesn't even debunk him being dark skinned. It's just saying we might not know his true skin color. This isn't the gotcha you think it is.
>>17278144quit it with your cheddar man bullshits, the natufians were not white, the samples are not cherrypicked and you didn't manage to prove otherwise, your whining doesn't prove anythingthe natufians plot right next to motherfucking saudis, they were not european, and the next claim you make will have to be followed by something that actually proves those claims
>>17278151I did >>17278053
>>17278158>the natufians were not whitethere is no proof they were not white
>>17278170>there is no proof they were not whitethere is plenty of proof that they were white, their genotypes proves that they were not white >>17278033 and not european, quit repeating that there is no proof of their non whiteness
>>17278165That's not an answer.It is proven that they are not white, and you refuse to accept this. Why are you so insecure?
>>17278170they weren't white, we know with 100% certainty that they're barely related if at all with their contemporaries in europe
>>17278176*there is plenty of proof that they werent white
>>17278183>you feel how I project that you feellol, no.>>17278185>muh cherry picked sampleslol, no.this is getting old and I leave now declaring victory over the evil forces trying to propagate your false narratives on this day. I will return again to shatter your lies on some other day, prepare new arguments until then.
>>17278211Your concession is accepted.
>>17278211>this is getting old and I leave now declaring victory over the evil forces trying to propagate your false narratives on this day. I will return again to shatter your lies on some other day, prepare new arguments until then.you lost the argument, bye
>>17278211It's proven that they're not white and you have no argument against this. Why are you so insecure that they're not white?
>>17277371Monkey, i m not Brazilian Btw, only in the LBA we have some light features PopsBefore the LBA, they're all intermediate
>>17277134Not likely.
>>17278035Oh this is hilarious. Roughly 10 minutes searching shows that not only is the general mfsd12 gene not exclusive to africans and australoids but variants of it are actually responsible for lighter skin pigmentation in east asians, native americans the african san people.(that san, not sand) and europeans.Note the blurb doesn't say which variant if any was found though it's assumed his pigmentation was most likely darker but even then, dark skin doesn't make him full on black.
>>17277182Because modern Egyptians have little relation to ancient Egypt outside of geography and technical ancestryThey're cultural Arabs living on land that once belonged to a different civilization
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