>>17315294
>Australian
We dindu nuffin doe
Australia never had any reason to balkanize them you retard, do you think we wants bajillion refugees coming from there?

>>17315294
Because breaking up the fake and gay meme country known as Indonesia would cause a lot more problems than it would solve. In fact it would make everything worse for foreign actors.
Imagin two scenarios:
>Indogland remains united as a single semi-stable neutral country under some strongman.
>Have to make deals with one guy with defined political positions if you want to access the region.
>This guy has an army that keeps the parts of the country you may want to acess safe-enough to operate in.

Now imagine Chimpanesia splits up.
>You have to deal with several dozen states of varying degrees of organizational aptitude and political orientation.
>These states exist in conflict with one another and are of indeterminate reliability. With a large amount of these being hostile to westerners of communist. Another large amount of them will be basically bandits and warlords.
>Because of this, a large part of the country will become basically inacessible to you, another section of it will be too unsafe to do anything productive in unless you bring your own private security.
>If anything close to reunification even happens (probably by foreign intervention) the succesor state will distrust you.

>>17315511
This. It'll be another Myanmar situation but with more warlords, Muslim terrorists and sea pirates disrupting Malacca strait trade route

>>17315294
They're so irrelevant despite being so big and so populous. Are they going to be more geopolitically significant soon?

>>17315306
Timor back then, and West Papua today

>>17315750
Timor was their own fault being so horribly incompetent at pacifying those guys that we were forced to moralfagging over them to save face.
Before that, Australia is the most ardent Indonesian supporter regarding Timor
>West Papua
???

>>17315294
>Dutch
tried to break it post independence multiple times by funding separatist movement, puppet government and straight up military agression. was never gonna successfull just by population alone and got isolated diplomatically because of anti colonialism wave at the time. US told them to stop doing retarded shit in there or else they will pull their marshall fund gibs.

>American
semi-related to previous one. basically cold war stuff and they want to counter communism in the region. for specifics read the book The Jakarta Methods

>Australians
Tried with Timor because they thought there's oil there (there isn't) and only managed to break the eastern part after indog military invasion. currently ongoing: West Papua

on another note, the Indonesian government itself system is dysfucntional decentralized mess full of corruption and inefficiency. but on the other hand it keeps the region stable and local strongman on their island placated because they can do their own stuff without central government telling them what to do. in hindsight that's the only reason they managed to keep the logistical nightmare of hundred thousands of islands each filled with different tribes, religion and language, in one piece today.

tl;dr: basically their national idea is stability and unity at the cost of progress or development. they wont be superpower anytime soon but unless something retarded happens it will still be a single country in the next hundred years

Indonesia is pound-for-pound the most useless country on the planet. Even worse than India.

Superpower by 2050 (once it sinks in the sea and Deep Ones take over)

>>17316242
>Deep Ones take over
What's that?

>>17315616
They're geopolitically irrelevant is because they're ridiculously neutral to a fault

>>17316980
To be fair it's not like they ar ein a position to throw around their weight. Maybe in a hundred years when they are the greater Javareich and West Papuan are extinct.

>>17317049
Indonesia doesn't even recognize Kosovo.
Malaysia, Brunei and Singapore recognize Kosovo. Indonesia is the largest ASEAN economy and has more leverage against Russia and China than all of them or even New Zealand. This is just the tip of the iceberg of Indonesia's uselessness.

Australia is just chipping away at it, lazily. We took Timor in the 90's, now we're pissfarting around with the West Papuans, stoking a little bit here and there with Balinese independence. But the thing is, its so much easier to keep Indonesia together, since they are just so easy to exploit. We're quite happy to have to send the navy boys on security missions to help destroy some Muslim pirates from times to time, we don't really care if they execute a few heroin smugglers, we like the slave labour in the Australian owned/operated mines and the steady supply of cheap educated workers.

>>17317049
>To be fair it's not like they ar ein a position to throw around their weight
Bro during Sukarno era when their economy were still horribly dogshit, they're become one of the most important player in Asian geopolitics, the current Indonesia with their huge economy and their role as the biggest nickel producer nowadays could've easily throw their weight around again.

>>17317071
>stoking a little bit here and there with Balinese independence
Being drunk and naked on the side of the road doesn't count, Albert Dingo

>>17317075
Indonesia needs a civil war. If a stable and prosperous Indonesia is going to be so dogshit and morally apathetic, then anything that disrupts the status-quo and allows for a vacuum that may lead to a less useless or less murtad Indonesia arising is the best choice by default. Fuck Indonesia.

>>17315294
Islam. Islam can’t be defeated.

>>17317165
This.

>>17315828
There was no dutch military aggresion, it was a restoration of order to a rebellious province and was widely supported by the local population

>>17317882
>t. Geert Wilders

>>17317084
>let's give up our stability and solid economic growth, just to gain the vague possibility to have a "better" economy for some foreigners, or prove ourselves in a useless circlejerk contest of "relevancy".

>>17315750
>>17315828
>Timor
Prior to the end of the Cold War, Australia (along the the US & Allies) consistently supported Indonesia as a bulwark against the often Soviet-supported seperatists (who'd only begun supporting them once the Soviet-backed Sukarno was removed). Australia was the only other nation besides Indonesia which actually explicitly recognised East Timor as an Indonesian province
After the Cold War ceased, rationale for blindly supporting Indonesia's ridiculously heavy-handed approach in East Timor became untenable, with forced starvation, mass rape, and massacres becoming the norm of both the Indonesian military and their militias.
The UN was able to authorise the intervention because East Timor had never been apart of the Dutch East Indies of which Indonesia was the legal successor to the entirety under the doctrine of territorial continuity. During the intervention, at no point did Australia, or the UN make any attempts to deprive Indonesia of West Timor (again due to territorial continuity), only a couple East Timorese seperatists advocated for this.
John Howard had his Gulf War moment by organising the intervention, and would proceed to wire tap negotiations with the East Timorese to push for unequal Australian access to the gas in the Timor Gap (there's shitloads of gas, and a decent amount of oil).
>Papua
The only time Australia advocated for West Papua to not be apart of Indonesia, was when the Dutch still controlled it, and they were pushing to federate it with Australian PNG. After Indonesia's annexation, official policy has been to support them there. This remains the policy of both major parties, with the only vocal critics being the Australian Greens and a couple other minor parties. Australia is happy to turn a blind eye since friendly relations with Indonesia is preferable, and access to West Papua's resources for Western companies is preferable. There's a media blackout in West Papua, so public outcry is limited.

>>17315294
rainforests are all gone, due to 200 million monkeys, kill them all

>>17317084
>hat may lead to a less useless or less murtad Indonesia arising is the best choice by default. Fuck Indonesia

>t.Acehnigger