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How the hell did a bunch of peasants led by corrupt and incompetent generals manage to defeat one of the greatest militaries in the world?
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>>17316954
Communism makes you strong.
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>>17316961
This was when China was still KMT though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Taierzhuang
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>Following Han Fuju's insubordination and subsequent execution, the Chinese military's high command rigorously adjusted the tone at the top by clamping down on military discipline, which pervaded down throughout the ranks and resulted in even the most junior soldiers willing to risk their lives in the course of carrying out their orders. For example, a "dare to die corps" was effectively used against Japanese units.[20] They used swords[8][21] and wore suicide vests made out of grenades.
>Due to lack of anti-armor weaponry, suicide bombing was also used against the Japanese. Chinese troops, as part of the "dare-to-die" corps, strapped explosives like grenade packs or dynamite to their bodies and threw themselves under Japanese tanks to blow them up.[22] Dynamite and grenades were strapped on by Chinese troops who rushed at Japanese tanks and blew themselves up.[23]
God damn imagine the balls it takes to do that
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>>17316962
The Soviet Volunteer Group is what decisively tilted the balance in China's favor.
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>>17316954
Japan held most of China until they surrendered to the U.S. and peacefully handed over China to the KMT, China didn't win anything
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>>17316954
Ccp agents also lurk wiki? Shocking
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>>17317268
>most of China
They literally never even held one half of the country, let alone more than half. And the Japanese were evicted from China by the Soviets, not the Americans. They did not "peacefully" hand anything over, the Japanese were slaughtered in China by the Russian army.
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>>17316954
By suffering immensely. 10x as many Chinese died during the war than the Japanese - who were fighting not just the Chinese, but the Americans, Australians, and other people. If you want to take China, you have to kill every Chinese person. Otherwise, they will never surrender. Japan never stood a chance. China had too much of a manpower advantage.
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>>17317317
China was fighting the Americans and Australians??? What?
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>>17317319
No, you silly goose. I even put "Japanese" in the sentence. The Japanese were fighting Americans, Australians, Chinese, and other people too. Honestly it was kind of stupid, they were doing too much.
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>>17316954
"Defeat" is a strong word when the Chinese were wholly unable to eject the Japanese from the countries major economic and population centers and productive land, leaving the Chinese holding only rural hinterland. Given how further Japanese conquests bogged down it's certainly possible that over a long enough timeframe the situation could have become untenable for the Japanese to maintain, but that never happened because Japan was conquered by America and simply handed over their Chinese territories as part of their surrender to the US.
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>>17317326
In reality the answer is much more simple. The reason why the Chinese defeated the Japanese was due to foreign assistance by the Americans and Soviets. It's not the case that the Chinese military itself was principally responsible for doing anything, other than slowing the Japanese advance while taking huge causalities.
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>>17317309
The irrelevant Western deserts don't count as China, and the Soviet Union invaded Manchuria after Japan had already been nuked. None of this has anything to do with the Chinese themselves, who were an irrelevant rabble that posed no serious threat to the Japanese occupation.
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>>17317317
>Chinese will never surrender
Except most of them did, and formed a collaborationist regime with Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Jingwei_regime
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I do wonder if there's an alternative timeline where China somehow managed to modernise enough
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they didn't defeat shit. operation ichigo in 1944 effectively knocked them out of the war. they were just 'existing'. they were defeated by the americans, the chinks had nothing to do with it.



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