The initial 2 state solution, in which a minority of jews would be given half the land, was meant to be ridiculous right? When Arabs rightfully rejected it, Jews could say "well we tried fairly negotiating but since you won't cooperate we can kill you now"
>>17366177Israel shouldn't exist.The holocaust never happened.The Rothchild's bought the land from the corrupt as fuck British after WWII.Jews belong in Ethiopia--their true homeland.Jews the biggest mutts on earth and the reason they "appear" white is because of thousands of years of white slave rape but they could never completely breed out the jew-fro which is the hallmarks of their African origins.
Stop this bullshit. Zionist Jews have repeatedly sabotaged any party that's agreed to the two state solution by propping up those parties that actively reject it. Then point fingers at Palestinians as a whole.
Look at this desert region inhabited by medieval Muslim roaches, 60x larger than Israel/PalestineConquered by China in a week in 1950. No ongoing durka durka mohammad jihadJews are just incompetent
>>17366177>We want a jewish state for protection >Oh arabs still live Here ,we dont want war we should just Split the Land up and be segregated fr each other >Here come the arabs again and declare war on us>But its okay we will still give them Land and try to segregate They two state soultion was simply a thing that was propsed because so many jews lived there already,you cant just claim forever that its your Land and never look into the Future If arabs Accepted this then we would have Peace and these two pepole could be away fr each other But no arabs had to chimp Out
hot take: even if you don't like jews the land should still just go to israel because if its given to the palestines we will just have another failed arab state in the middle east, at least israel has a tech sector and shit but arabs seem to be unable to create a functional state unless their land is on top of oil and gas worth quadrillions
>>17366247>we dont want war>take half of someones land
>>17366278You cant make a jewish state without having a Land So yes jews took some Land but at some point arabs should have just Accepted that and actually improve their own state instead of just chimping out against jews 24/7 All they do is destroy and bring chaos those "paleatians" there is a reason why no one wants them
>>17366284palestine was fine before jews started taking land. people getting expelled and land being taken warrants conflict
>>17366250Israel's entire tech sector is paid for and stolen from the usa.
>>17366250>at least israel has a tech sectoryeah what would we do without Raid: Shadow Legends and Sodastream
>>17366250Without Kike-loving yankee money ( which amounts to trillions/ annually), Israel wouldn't amount to much, maybe a step above arabs but definitely far behind the persians. Without their fancy military tech, they would get smoked, jews are natural cowards
>>17366365Waze is pretty good for an Israeli app, if insidious with its cloying, happy little icons masking its capabilities for surveillance.
>>17366177Why should the indigenous people of a land hand it over do depraved racially alien schizophrenics?
>>17366179>Jews belong in Ethiopia--their true homeland.Black Hebrew Israelite tier
>>17366291>palestine was fineWhen the ottomans took the land instead? The british? The egyptians?
>>17366377They're no more indigenous than the fucking Hebrews.
>>17366250The reason some Arab state aren’t doing well is because of Israel and Jews. If Israel didn’t exist the Middle East would be pretty stable at least.
I thought the initial map was crazy too. Then I looked at a map that showed ownership of private land and population density. It was just where the jews lived became israel. Arabs shouldn't have chimped out and lost. They should have taken in refugees instead of creating a fake nationality (palestine). Also OP is a muslim.
>>17367104lmao do you actually believe this shit? Read why nations fail.
>>17367104Arabs will fight WWI tier conflicts completely separate from Israel and say the Middle East would be a utopia if not for da Jooz. They manage to out/pol/ the /pol/fags.
>>17366233>attempt to genocide the Palestinians in peace>lefties soi out and light themselves on fire outside your embassy
>>17367142you don't know what genocide is
>>17367109Nobody is impressed by the Jews using free American weapons to level apartment complexes Moshe. Without free and endless American support the IDF would be a third world tier militia at best.
>>17366374>>17367228Jews won against the Arabs in the earliest days of Jewish migration when they didn't get billions from the US and had to rely on smuggling in weapons because the UK didn't want them arming themselves either.
>>17367253Okay that's cool, we're talking about modern day IDF that is still being ambushed in Gaza and has failed miserably in rescuing their hostages despite the largest sustained indiscriminate city bombing campaign seen since WW2. Without free infinite American weapons their performance would be even more pathetic.
>>17367262Ok, they still won with and without US backing. They're just more competent than Arab militaries.
>>17367262>intentionally start an unnecessary and avoidable war against israel with a shocking and brutal massacre, knowing they have overwhelmingly superior made in USA firepower>sustain at least 40x more casualties than them >all of Gaza in complete ruins>still pretend this is a victory because some IDF patrols were ambushed or whateverI really don't get it. Do Arabs just have no survival instinct?
>>17367296The Hamas leadership lives in luxury so they couldn't give a rats ass about what happens to 'their' people, more dead Gazans just means more international support
>>17367296The "muh k:d" copium for your military disasters is my favorite part of IDF shills. No Schlomo, killing thousands of civilians while failing all your military objectives doesn't mean you won. Cope and seethe etc, etc.
jews are unironically behind hamas
>>17367302Lol, do you genuinely believe this shit? Im not even Israeli, just pointing out Gaza is destroyed, tens of thousands of Gazans are dead, Hamas is smashed compared to its state on October 7th, allies in Lebanon are smashed, Iran not willing or able to help them, and Israel will soon be rebuilding settlements in Gaza. All this because of a Hamas chimpout. Their war has colossally backfired for them by any measure and Palestinian statehood is further away than ever.
>>17366177>is it fair to split a small land between jews and arabs within a region that is 99% arab countries?yes>is it okay for jews to protect themselves from arab hordes who want to exterminate them?yes
>>17367310>Hamas is smashed compared to its state on October 7thHamas is a light militia armed with RPGs and AKs and they're still active and ambushing and killing IDF. Plus they have thousands of new recruits with an axe to grind against Israel for some reason.>allies in Lebanon are smashedHezbollah likely agreed to a ceasefire because of an incoming Gaza ceasefire, they still retain the ability to strike into Israel so the northern settlers haven't been allowed back lol.>and Israel will soon be rebuilding settlements in Gaza.The current ceasefire agreement that may be agreed upon calls for a full withdrawal of all IDF from Gaza so the settlement autism means nothing.>Palestinian statehood is further away than ever.If anything its made statehood even closer. Saudis have stated no normalization unless a Palestinian state is made and multiple European countries have recognized Palestine. The sheer scale of the IDF's chimpout in Gaza has made the Palestinian cause a front page story for the world when before no one gave a shit about them before Oct 7. It will take decades for Israel to recover from the sheer disaster of PR their chimpout has caused and its quite easy to imagine even America starting to second guess their relationship with Israel. It's difficult to find literally any victories for Israel in this entire war if you have even the slightest foresight or understanding of the region. Nearly everything has gone wrong for them.
>>17367317>its quite easy to imagine even America starting to second guess their relationship with IsraelSure, if you're a blind idiot.
>>17367317>w-we'll get you eventually You're literally doing this meme
>>17366284Brazil literally offered them land to become an independent Jewish state and they rejected it because it wasn’t Palestine
>>17367317Toppling Assad was a pretty clear victory. Institute a friendly regime on your border, consolidate your control over Golan, cut off supply lines to your biggest enemy. Hard to see enough bad to claim this as not a victory.
The real solution was for Palestine to be part of a greater Syrian state. For thousands of years it was just seen as southern Syria, ever since Rome reorganized the province of Iudea it Syria-Palestina.
>>17367327Get back in your tomb Saadeh.
>>17367310>Palestinian statehood is further away than ever.this was Israel's goal from the beginning. Israel knows that if Palestinians become too peaceful, they'll be pressured into giving them a state. Hence the endless war and funding of terrorism
>>17367328What are you on about faggot? This was literally America’s proposal during WWI
>>17367109>I thought the initial map was crazy too.sure you did kek
>>17367317>ITS A GENOCIDE!>WE ARE WINNING!meanwhile looks like people are mainly getting tired of the muslims shit and wants to get them out of their countrieshttps://ecre.org/netherlands-netherlands-leads-group-of-countries-calling-for-eu-to-speed-up-migrant-returns-%E2%80%95-migration-minister-wants-to-install-controversial-warning-signs-in-asylum-centres-and-reduce-leng/
>>17367367It's almost like there's a fucking reason they're out of their homes in the first place you goddamn retard. If you hate arabs in your country, then you hate Israel.
>>17367389you talking like israel is bombing every square mile in the middle eastthey have many shitholes to go to, and its time that they do it
>>17367395>you talk like Israel and America fund islamists which destabilize secular governments in the middle east to steal their oil and wealth which in turn causes waves of refugees to go to the westDid you think those millions of Syrians just appeared out of thin air?
>>17367397The US literally has the highest domestic oil production on Earth. They don't need "muh oil". That was always a mythand NTA but I actually do believe there are many conditions in third world countries under precarious leadership that would lead to domestic paramilitary groups driven by religious ideology. This is hardly unheard of. It may be to you because you live a sheltered first world life, you have no idea the potential for damage that a small group of armed men can cause in a barely functional government.
>>17367399>They don't need "muh oil"America has literally been stealing Syria's oil through direct occupation and through the SDF. And it's not so much about America's direct need for oil but controlling the world's oil supply and the dominance of the dollar.Syria's shitty government certainly laid its own fertile soil for unrest, but that doesn't mean the USA, Israel and their compradors haven't been adding fuel in the form of money and weapon. The US has spent literal billions on overthrowing Assad and the civil war combined with economic sanctions broke the back of Assad's regime.
>>17367399You could maybe read a little bit on the subject before you spout off bullshit. Gaddafi was only ousted because the islamists were getting air support from NATO as they bombed their military hardware to shit. Look up how the US funded and trained the Mujahideen (which became the Taliban) in Afghanistan to artificially oust the democratic republic of Afghanistan. If you're this fucking clueless on the US (and by proxy Israel's) aiding in regime change then why even talk? Speaking of sheltered western life, just look at picrel and search up any of those events to see how retarded you are.
>>17367397no i just think they should go to turkey, jordan, egypt, saudi etc... its amazed me that they complain about "west racism" while they are not even accepted by their regional countries
>>17367418>its amazed me that they complain about "west racism" while they are not even accepted by their regional countriesHave you ever thought for a second to see if the things you believe are actually true?
The problem with I/P is that no one wants to recognize that both sides are equally the problem. Israel will repeatedly commit war crimes and not punish them, while the Palestinians will non-stop terror attack Israel.Its important to recognize that in the conflict however, the Palestinians have always given the Israelis a reason to attack them. If the Palestinians would just chill out then the world would actually get mad at Israel. But no, They always attack Israeli civilians and radicalize the Israeli public.
>>17367317>Plus they have thousands of new recruitsyea im sure all those recruits are dying to participate in the Gaza meat grinder>Hezbollah likely agreed to a ceasefire because of an incoming Gaza ceasefireAHAHAHAH imagine being you LOL. Nasrallah's last wish was never to separate the two>they still retain the ability to strike into Israel strange, because so far its IDF that is striking Hezb left and right after the ceasefire and Hezb has done nothing in return kek>The current ceasefire agreement that may be agreed upon calls for a full withdrawal of all IDFthats not true at all. Show me one source that says the ceasefire will withdraw IDF from Gaza.you guys have lost like always and you all are left with cope
>>17366177A significant chunk of that land was the worthless Negev Desert. The Palestinians actually got the plum bits, including the land surrounding Jerusalem.
>>17366332False. A lot of the tech you use on a daily basis was developed by Israeli companies. >>17366374It's a few billion a year almost entirely for military aid. Israel has a GDP of over 500 billion USD, US aid amounts to less than 1% of that. >Without their fancy military tech, they would get smokedThey won the independence war on multiple fronts using jeeps and smuggled small arms. Arabs are notoriously bad at modern warfare.
>>17369630the northwest coast was the most productive agricultural land, and at the time that seemed really important. The slogan the arabs used when rejecting the partition plan was>the best land to the jews, the holiest land to the UN, whatever's left to us
>>17368743>believedo you "believe" otherwise retard?its in front of your face, 3 countries that border with syria and next to it germany, why the fuck is germany above iraq and egypt? and where is saudi and iran? this is how much they care about each other, they only united when they declare jihad and slaughter innocent people like fucking animals, when they throw the blame on those who actually help them, is it a surprise that everyone is sick of this shit and begin to implement laws to kick them out, this is inconceivable ingratitude not to mention that they openly trying to take over. for fuck sake these "people" have no fraction of shame
>>17366179>The Rothchild's bought the land from the corrupt as fuck British after WWII.Just so you know, the holyland has been an absolute wasteland since the crusades. Saladin destroyed city, land and resources in his attempt to stop King Richard, for he could not beat him in the field. When isreal was formed it was a literal desert wasteland, like Arizona prior to Europeans.
>>17366247>We want a jewish stateTheirs your first problem-- nobody is entitled to a state, especially not in someone else's land. Imagine if a bunch of saami migrated to the U.S. in mass and carved up a little state in Maine. It would be a declaration of war and the full force of the U.S. government would come down on them. The jews should have just sucked it up and remained under one state of Palestine and they could be free to conduct there business and life
>>17367137They need there ww1 just like Europe needed them before they could become stable peaceful countries-- its really just a matter of delaying the inevitable for the west who are afraid a large conflict in the middle east will advantage China or Russia
>>17370819If the Sámi separatists won their war of independence then they would be entitled to their state. Israel won its war of independence and repeatedly defended their territorial integrity.
>>17366177How did a majority of Arabs supported by a bunch of other Arab countries lose to a handful of kikes?
>>17367109Your vastly overestimating-- Jews did not own all of the coast line besides Gaza, that land was arab owned. The same for the north which was mostly arab and publicly. They didn't own Jerusalem either which is the biggest contention there. Your either being disingenuous here or Jewish.>>17367253Not from the United States but definitely alot from the eastern bloc states and smuggled weapons from the Soviets. Let's not forget that Israel was not the only newly founded state in that region. Syria had just gained independence exactly a year prior same for Jordan. In total they were only to raise half the army that Israel was partially because there was much more at stake for Israel, they believed it was a do or die situation
>>17370861Israel was unquestionably the underdog in its conflicts up to 1973.
>>17367323>when you try to overthrow the turkish governmentWhat is this referring to? You mean the arab revolt? That would be the ottoman government they're revolting against. Turkey never owned the levant, this meme is dumb
>>17370454>do you "believe" otherwise retard?You say they're not 'accepted by regional countries', but the majority of refugees are in surrounding Muslim countries. Turkey alone holds more than double what the West does. Countries like Lebanon and Jordan are hugely disproportionately housing Syrian refugees compared to Germany if you consider their population and wealth. Each country has different situations, Egypt is shit poor in economic crisis under a military dictatorship and already houses a lot of refugees and there's Israel in the way (and if you can get on a boat, why not go for a wealthier, safer place?), the 21st century has been a continual disaster for Iraq with actual spillover between Iraq and the Syrian civil war, Saudi Arabia while being a despotic gulf state shithole may have taken hundreds of thousands but does not register them as refugees, it's probably not that safe/easy to get to Iran (and not desirable considering Syrian refugees seem to lean anti-Assad) and they already housed a shit ton of Afghans.>this is how much they care about each other, they only united when they declare jihad and slaughter innocent people like fucking animals, when they throw the blame on those who actually help them, is it a surprise that everyone is sick of this shit and begin to implement laws to kick them out, this is inconceivable ingratitude not to mention that they openly trying to take over. for fuck sake these "people" have no fraction of shameYou can just hate sandniggers, it's ok.
>>17366284>>17366278jews didn't took any land from arabs before the arabs initiate a war against them, go look everywhere you want you won't find any land grab prior to 1948 war.>>17370819>nobody is entitled to a statethis is your opinion >especially not in someone else's landread above.if you had any idea about the history of this area you would know that arabs like gypsies come and go, their family tree ends in one generation into syria, jordan, egypt, iraq etc...they never consider it their land they never tried to establish a state they never even tried to make this place livable it was 80% inhabited full of swamps and dry soil. this fabricated version of history is rainbow and fairy tales horse shit, and to think that people recite this with a straight face its just make me lose hope in humanity
>>17370862In 48 they were equally matched with the arab armies, in 56 they were not evenly matched at all, Israel had decisive foreign support and the element of suprise. Onwards fromt there you could say Israel was the underdog
>>17370475The only reading I've done on the topic was T. E. Lawrence in 1917 and he did not consider Palestine or Jerusalem barren wastelands
>>17370870>You can just hate sandniggers, it's ok.no. im not just hate them i have very good reasons to hate them, im not even racist i don't judge them by their pigments i judge them as a culture and their culture is a disgusting pedo death cult that must be eradicate from this world permanently without leaving a remnant.you know with what justification they try to take over the west? im not talking about the fact that islam instruct them to do this like a humanoid cancer, im talking about what they say to white people, they say that because white people bomb their shitholes they owe them and must open their gates for them, for fuck sake anon for fuck sake these fucking creatures must go ASAP
>>17370897>this is your opinionThis is a fact of reality>if you had any idea about the history of this area you would know that arabs like gypsies come and go, their family tree ends in one generation into syria, jordan, egypt, iraq etc...Your talking out of your ass. They infact did privately own land in the west Bank and the coast. All the land that wasn't deserted was inhabited and the area that wasn't suitable for farming was there for grazing as was the case for nearly all unindustrialized regions in the world. >they never consider it their land they never tried to establish a stateThose are two completely different things and only a moron would mistake them for the same. They did consider it there land but a state is a completely different matter. Prior the mandate of Palestine it was a eylat of the ottomans and for all of history it wasn't necessary to build a distinct national identity because there is not anything especially unique about this region and it wouldn't make sense to do so.>80% inhabited full of swamps and dry soil.The west Bank is very fertile and was used, to the south it's very dry and uninhabited
>>17370920>This is a fact of realityno its your opinion.>They infact did privately own landwhich they winningly sold to jews because they couldn't grow shit>All the land that wasn't deserted was inhabitedyeh 20% retard, aside jerusalem, haifa, yafa, acre and some forgotten villages there was nothing, the negev and the north were almost empty.>Those are two completely different thingswho say they aren'ti mentioned that so you could appreciate their amount of motivation about owning this land or even have a national identity?they always view themselves as a cluster of arabs its such a bullshit that one day they decided they are some greek tribe that lived in gaza 3000 years ago, i mean the fuck is this shit.>The west Bank is very fertile and was usedlol, yes and they are there right now you dumb fuck. do me a favor, run a google search about "what is PLO?" before you share your moronic and broken perspectiveyou are just too far away to have any meaningful opinion and you arrogantly think that you have any idea from watching dogshit youtube videos
>>17366177Yes it was intended to bait the Palestinians into looking like backward colonials who couldn’t accept a civilized deal. The media, which at the time was controlled by Jews according to Winston Churchill (his statement from the Peel commission and remarking on the death of the Viceroy), Neville Chamberlain (Peel statement), Mark Sykes (his final meeting with Faisal), Chaim Wiezmann (his meeting with the Arab delegation), and Bernard Baruch (in a meeting with Truman and the state dept discussing the UN resolution), ran stories about the Jews trying to be civil to settle the matter peacefully, but leaving out the Jews offered nothing in return to the Palestinians, had already bought up their land from Turkish landholders who no longer had rights to the land just official documents from a defunct empire the British no longer recognized but refused to admit to courts was legitimate when Palestinians had the same statements of ownership, and had changed the government to a “democracy” in which the Jewish minority had veto power over the Palestinian majority as well as being able (through governorship of the major cities) to represent a significant portion of the Palestinians on paper and thus wield a “majority” of votes while ethnically being less than 1/5 of the population. The Jews also changed the names of places to Hebrew ones despite the proposal being struck down in a British court. They did so anyway and the British refused to prosecute. It was the theft of a country.
>>17366247Arabs didn’t chimp out though. The Jews were the first to use anti-civilian terror tactics as a means of ethnic replacement.The Jews literally ran death squads call the Palmachs who would go out to more isolated villages, surround them, barrage them with mortars, suppress any Arab resistance, then throw grenades into these one room Arab hovels and take any survivors into the desert, strip them, and leave them if not kill them by hand if the prisoners were few in number. They even had a process where by they would be bound, pulled forward by a vehicle, and bayoneted by Palmach soldiers who sat down and jammed their guns forward into a trail of people tied together passing them by.This is a genocide in the clearest terms. Not even in the wild fantasies of the holocaust is this seen or heard.Even in the worst cases of that propaganda piece “come and see” you don’t have anything like the Palmach squads.This isn’t even Mongol tier. This so straight up Moloch the Assyrian bull god behavior.>>17366250Even hotter take. If Israel doesn’t exist, the Jews do not have a nexus of power by which to focus their intelligence network and they may be more integrated into the nations they subvert, meaning they will at least be not as intolerable as they are today.
>>17366783They literally are. Their continuity with the Bronze Age inhabitants is much greater than that of the modern jew.
>>17366179>Jews belong in Ethiopia--their true homelandThis one goes off rails even by most /pol/ standards kek. Literally Rastafarian type shit
>>17367114>>17367137The Israeli shills like Egypt and the Arabians are doing well, those resisting Jewish power successfully like Turkey and Iran are also doing well.It’s really only Arabs who are under Jewish influence and resisting such influence who have the low quality of life.If it was a racial problem, Egypt, Iran, Jordan, Arabia and friends wouldn’t have the quality of life they do.
>>17367104Chances are they were at war anyway.Almost every great empire that has ever existed has salivated at the sight of useful trade routes in the Levant, so empires and powers from Babylon to Mongolia to the US and Russia have tried to intervene militarily and economically there.
>>17371004The Levant hasnt mattered for like 500 years now.We just sailed around and completely forgot about the area until this Israel debacle
>>17367281>they won without US backing Israel has no ability for mass production with their native heavy industry for munitions.Their ENTIRE arsenal in Gaza is American made or contracted out to Americans (with American money LOL).IMI isn’t making Hobos bombs. Rafael isn’t making 203mm shells.They can barely make the MSOVs and Delilahs.Israeli procurement is theft or legal theft.
>>17367303>jews deliberately put in a volatile yet incompetent regime to justify exterminating the people supporting that regime they learned it from the British. You show up, support the biggest chimp, that chimp eventually is baited into looking like an aggressor, then you hammer down and look like the hero.This requires an IQ of 105 to understand so naturally normies fail to grasp how Israel is actually the aggressor and always had been, their sorcery is just good enough to BTFO the average mutt boomer peanut head.
>>17366247>Oh arabs still live Here ,we dont want war we should just Split the Land up and be segregated fr each otherIt was a hilariously stupid split. The Jews were being given areas where they were far and away in the minority.
>>17370938>which they winningly sold to jews because they couldn't grow shit*which they confiscated after they moved in the 48 war and then resettled with jews quickly.>aside jerusalem, haifa, yafa, acre and some forgotten villages there was nothing, the negev and the north were almost empty.The negav is still empty today retard. And you just listed the most populated cities today. Next your cry that 90% of Algeria uninhabited.>i mentioned that so you could appreciate their amount of motivation about owning this land or even have a national identity?>who say they aren'tApparently you, seeing as you still can't differentiate how unrelated those two are. I can want to own my house without believing in a project of state building.>they always view themselves as a cluster of arabs its such a bullshit that one day they decided they are some greek tribe that lived in gaza 3000 years ago, i mean the fuck is this shit.Irrelevant. Everybody knows that Palestinian is not some ancient national identity like German. It exists precisely because there is a foreign invader who seeks to displace the inhabitants of a specific region and so the local adopt a common national identity in distinction with the enemy. This is how many nations and peoples have come to exist for all of history and which you'd know of you weren't a philistine retard.>you are just too far away to have any meaningful opinionWatch your mouth boy, I pay for your kike parasite states existence and you have the audacity to bite the hand that feeds you. You should be grateful the red white and blue cock is so generous to your shithole
>>17371015To add onto this, the main American weapons stockpile for war in Europe is located in Israel, specifically so that Israel can pull from it when it wants to. It's $1.8 billion in weapons paid and maintained by the Americans for Israel to draw from. Also, 75% of the $3 billion that America gives to Israel every year is spent on weapons. These two things are a direct military subsidy and Israel absolutely would not be able to keep up their current operations without them. >>17371035>which they confiscated after they moved in the 48 war and then resettled with jews quickly"Moved" isn't the right word when the IDF was actively conducting ethnic cleansing operations
>>17371035>confiscated after they moved in the 48 warand they would have prevented it if they weren't initiating a war.idk what you expect, if you start a war at least consider the risks and if you lose bear the consequences, you have no right to reclaim anything after this.>The negav is still empty yeh sure surehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_District_(Israel)more than a million its roughly 12% of the state population you know shit nothing absolutely nothing about this land >Everybody knows that Palestinian is not some ancient national identity>It exists precisely because there is a foreign invaderit just proves how fake they are, they are fucking arabs, they have many countries to fuck off too, they could stay here but they start a war so with all honesty fuck em>Watch your mouth boylol nigger, i bet on everything i have that you live in your mom's basement, so YOU personally whatever a nazi teen an irritated tranny or a muslim immigrant don't pay shit.second thing, trust me if the US wouldn't get anything from israel it wouldn't support it,just because your idiotic and meaningless interests collide with your state doesn't mean that you know what's going on or what is better for your country, you obviously don't know and probably will never know.third, you are nothing, fucking nothing i don't owe you shit, keep seething to oblivion like the screeching little cunt you are
>>17367296>I really don't get it. Do Arabs just have no survival instinct?No, they’re religious zealots who think a violent death grants them eternal sex with lots of hot virgins in heaven. The huge irony of the Abrahamic religions is they actually don’t value life at all. Their “pro-life” ideology is to just let people live long enough to convert to Christianity/Islam/Judaism. Once that has been achieved, they’re free game for torture/pain/explosions/dismemberment because the more their life sucks, the more rewards they get in eternity. Basically, this life is a stepping stone that doesn’t matter, so who cares what happens to the innocent.It’s why Christians travel to starving villages to hand out Bibles. It’s why Muslim moms jump for joy when their son gets run over by a tank. Unironically, the only Abrahamic religion that doesn’t hate life and being alive is Judaism, because their idea of the afterlife isn’t quite so zany.Mother Teresa’s letters really nail this point home. She wrote extensively about the immense joy she took in seeing the terminally ill in immense pain before death, because it meant they got to live like Jesus or whatever. Abrahamics worship pain and death, even though they pretend like they don’t.
>>17366365>TILSodaStream is a Jewish company. I guess that makes sense because they unashamedly try to sell fucking CO2 for $2.50 a gallon. Selling air for the price of milk.They also use funny valve connections to discourage people from using regular CO2 canisters. Couldn’t stop me tho. I got a giant, steel canister and hooked it up with a $10 adapter I found online. I’ve had it for almost 2 years and haven’t needed a refill.This apparently voids the warranty, in typical Jew fashion. I don’t know how I didn’t realize they were Jewish before. It makes so much sense now.
>>17370997how so?
>>17371003>those resisting Jewish power successfully like Turkey and Iran are also doing well.meanwhile in realityhttps://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/21/world/middleeast/iran-economy-energy-crisis.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jU4.4k6a.3UqVNI-hRZ5k&smid=url-share
>>17371015America gives them a discount, but Israel is still the ones buying. Buying weapons from another country isn't somehow cheating at war or whatever point you're trying to make.
>>17371107>and they would have prevented it if they weren't initiating a war.That's not what happened you disingenuous nigger, militias from both sides occupied and used land to stage attacks and aswell as cleanse civilians and then the 48 war broke out which displaced more civilians who were not directly involved.>you have no right to reclaim anything after this.You have the right to your private property and if the Israeli state considers itself the government of that land than it should protect that right.>it just proves how fake they are, they are fucking arabsIt's not a ethnic identity, it's a national identity. If you'd take a moment to remove the shard up your ass and think you'd understand what a stupid comment you just made. What the fuck is an Israeli? Oh you mean jews who got fucked in europe fleeing the middle east? Why don't they just fly back to Europe.>mom's basementYawn>second thing, trust me if the US wouldn't get anything from israelDon't care bitch, you don't matter in this decision.>what is better for your country, you obviously don't knowIs that a non-american I hear trying to weigh his irrelevant opinion on a real countries decision that doesn't need to lick balls to garuntee its sovereignty.>screechingLul. I can only imagine the screeching jew cunt voice going on about how "yew don't naw what ya talking bout you silly goy" in his basement in tel aviv. Why the hostility Mordechai? I didn't steal your nose, I'm not the one inviting niggers to your streets
>>17371141That has nothing to do with his point. If they're buying weapons from the U.S. that means they depend on the U.S. to win wars. The U.S. doesn't just sell weapons to any country and especially not its most advanced weaponry like you delusionally might think
>>17367228>Without free and endless American support the IDF would be a third world tier militia at best.Without American tax dollars to prop the country up, the lights would go out within two weeks.
>>17367389Citation for the quote?
>>17367399>The US literally has the highest domestic oil production on Earth.It's not about oil, it's about pitching the Arab/Mulsim world into perpetual anarchy to keep the heat off Israel; if they're fighting each other, they're not fighting with the Jews.Obama and Hillary's "Arab Spring" was all about protecting Israel.
>>17371141>America gives them a discountThe US actually just loans or gives Israeli money directly to buy US weapons with
>>17371207No the US is punishing the Arabs for their evil ways. Ever since the Beirut bombing in the 80s Muslims have been on a shit list
>>17371010I don't know, didn't Spain and the Turkish Empire have several maritime wars to establish their hegemony in the Mediterranean and put a focus on the Mediterranean?Also, what do you say about the attempts by France and the United Kingdom to control the Sinai and after the Turkish Empire weakened, the Allies ended up controlling the Levant?Also, about the many Christian Arabs who ended up migrating due to religious persecution to other places on the other side of the Atlantic, like Mexico?
>>17371210Are you sure about that? I thought Israel bought the weapons from US arms manufacturers but the price was subsidized by the US treasury. Like a buy 1 get 1 50% off sale on fighter jets.
>>17371179sure, but even if relations cool between Jerusalem and Washington to the point where they're no longer such a favored customer, it's impossible for me to imagine relations becoming so awful that the US government sanctions them and stops selling them whatever weapons they want. We sell weapons to lots of other countries that aren't exactly great in terms of human rights or showing restraint in their use, such as the Saudis.
>>17371207I wouldn't have wanted to live in any of those shitholes before.
>>17371476Arabs always love using Americans as a scapegoat so that they do not have to hold themselves accountable for their own actions. The truth is that they've always been shitholes. even during the Islamic Golden Age the Middle east was a shithole and the only parts of the Islamic world that were experiencing a golden age were conquered territories in Europe and Western Asia
>>17370990>Not even in the wild fantasies of the holocaust is this seen or heard.That doesn't seem worse than killing Jews en masse with car exhuast, gassing them with pesticides, or performing lethal human experimentation, all of which happened in the Holocaust and weren't fantasies
>>17366177The initial solution made perfect sense.
>>17371473>countries that aren't exactly great in terms of human rightsNobody in the pentagon could give a rats ass about that, it's about how they help further U.S. interests and if Israel hurts out relations with other countries in that region, in times where we might need to maintain those relations, then they care.Israel is entrenched in our institutions just like Britain is so it will never come to that point really
>>17371453In the 1500s when the oceanic trade wasn't fully established yet
> Be Jews> Move to Palestine starting in the 1880s because everywhere else is anti-Semitic > Legally buy & develop land and form communities > Arabs get pissed because they dont want to share, they want another arab state like Syria, Lebanon, Iraq etc> Arabs chimp out so hard the Brits who are running the mandate roll back the plan for a jewish state and try and prevent jewish migrants.> Get holocausted> Mass immigrate to Palestine because nowhere else is safe> Brits fuck off> Palestinian militias attack in 1947> All Arab neighbors invade in 1948> Jews BTFO all of them and create Israel> Arabs try and invade again in 67 but Israel preemptively attacks and BTFO's them> Arabs Try again in 73 and Israel BTFO's them> Palestinian terrorist keep attacking from Lebanon> Israel invades in 1982 and occupies south Lebanon for 20 years> The Palestinians start chimping out and commit mass terror on civilians in two intifada's in the 90's and early 00's> get racialized by all the terror attacks> dont give a fuck about Palestinians anymore
>>17366177>>17366247Worldwide arab genocide would not only fix the Palestine issue, but it would also fix France, Germany, the Netherlands, Italy and oil prices.
>>17371613>Let us not cast the blame on the murderers today. Why should we declare their burning hatred for us? For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate.- Moshe Dayan>As far as the Palestinians are concerned, they lost their land, which is why when people ask me, what would you do if you were Palestinian? I say that if someone came and stole my land, the land of Israel, I would fight him without limits.- Ami Ayalon>If I was an Arab leader, I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural; we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but that was two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?- David Ben-Gurion>We [the Jews] used terrorism to establish our state. Why should we expect the Palestinians to be any different?- Leah RabinWhat's the point of depicting jews as innocent people who simply defend themselves, when they admit the opposite?
>>17371207>Iraq mostly looks the same but the "after" photo is taken during bad weather
>>17366247>we don't want warthen why did your side commit countless terrorist acts just to start wars?
>>17371642The Son of the Hamas founder said Palestinians are the most pathetic race on the planet. Idgaf what the quotes say. They can be manipulated or taken out of context. I want facts.
>>17366189At this point they don't even do that. The Palestinian governments have been very public about their desires for a two state solution, and the Israelis are outright lying and saying "they won't settle on a solution!!!!"You know, even though we can all see the Palestinian leadership publicly calling for it. But they don't show it in the MSM so dumb fuck boomers buy the Israeli line whole.
>>17371666The Hamas that Israel supports? You side with a country that funds a terrorist group (that harms both Jews and Arabs) just so they have an excuse to be violent towards Palestinians and avoid talks of peace?Israel has always used dirty tactics, and they often admit it. These facts are not manipulated or taken out of context if you do 5 seconds of research
