Are the Catalan and Basque independence movements historically justified? Are there ethnic and cultural reasons that validate them?
>>17408998>historicallyno>ethnicmaybe for the basques but really no>culturalnoAlso Galicia, Asturia, Aragon, Andalusia, the Baleares and Valencia being red is nonsense. Arguably even Navarra.
Makes me wonder how Spain reduced to the green part, basically greater Castilia, would be as country. I think it wouldn't even be that bad for them
>>17408998Yes, Spain is a fake nation created in the 18th century by the Bourbons.
>>17409007They speak a non-Indo-European language and their phenotype is different, Basque nationalism is justified
>>17409007>Galiciathey're whiter than spaniards. why should they remain in their brown state?
>>17409124i also think galicia shouldn't be a part of portugal
>>17409093Basques have literally always been a part of Spain, except for the part that was in France. Then there's Navarra but 1) they aren't pure basques and 2) separatism is actually a meme there, they just want money but not to actually break out of spain.
>>17409124>they're whiter than spaniards
>>17409159>they're whiter than spaniardsYes
>>17409175this is your example of uber white galicians?
>>17408998There are no ethnic reasons at all to validate those, there are cultural ones however. And this map is total bullshit, I'm Andalusian and we don't have a problem with being a part of Spain. On the other hand, the independence movement of the region is an utter joke that is supported by a mere 0.1% of the population at best.
>>17409199Copehttps://youtu.be/hCw1eKu6bKI?si=s3iJ2TlnF_hJsJFi
>>17409259leave the racism galle, genetics have already proven galicians are the most southern-shifted spaniards. celtic larp is fine but don't larp as white, cause you aren't. catalans are the whitest spaniards btw but then again spaniards are all very similar, even basques
>>17409268>catalans are the whitest spaniardsGo back to flirting with Alberto, Carles.
>>17408998Italy, France and Germany will follow suit
>>17409093>They speak a non-Indo-European languageThey only pretend to, Basque has been forgotten and subsequently revived as a forced meme, no one even knows how the original pronunciations were like.>their phenotype is differentLol bullshit you'd never be able to pick the Basques apart from a crowd of random Spaniards.
>>17408998Spain is more like some African country like Sudan or Niger. There's 59 African tribes fighting with each others using toyota trucks and spears. The "government"(EU/UN media spindoctors) hides this warfare behind "youth unemployment rate"
>>17409268> genetics have already proven galicians are the most southern-shifted spaniardsnot him but that's extremadurans
>>17409335>Italy Yes, the North vs South rivalry is well known.After all, the naples is Arabic while Venice is Lombard Germanic.
>>17409645>naplesThey also have Greek, Lombardic and some Norman dna
>>17409016You do realise they'd lose almost all of their coastal tourism? They'd be fucked with just Murcia and Cantabria
>>17409268>>17409627What is "southern-shift"? The closest Iberians to Italians are Menorcans. They are Catalans with East Med admixture but not much nafri unlike Galicians and Extremadurans.
>>17409645>>17409800Keep coping barbarian nigger
>>17409849The average Spaniard doesn't like tourists.They would be happier if all the tourists and immigrants went to Barcelona.
>>17410219Italian (Latins) and Turkish (Trojan) are barbarian too
