So are all Western Europeans pretty much Celts then? French, Brits, Swiss, Belgians, West Germans, Bavarians, and North Italians are all the closest living populations to the Gauls. I just saw survivethejive Tom Rowsell's DNA test and half of his DNA was Celt/Briton, even though he thinks of himself as an Anglo Saxon. I've seen many other English people come back as 70-80% Celt + Briton as well. The Roman Is it safe to say Celts produced everything good and civilized in this world?
>>17410378Typo*The Romans describe the Celts as tall, blond or red haired, blue eyed and with robust pale bodies.Athenaeus claimed Celts had the most beautiful women of any of the Barbarian tribes. They were using chariots and wore tartan blankets and clothes, similar to those found with the Tarim mummies. So it's safe to say they were Aryan af too.
>>17410382>The Romans describe the Celts as tall, blond or red haired, blue eyed and with robust pale bodies.Gigacope LMAO Athenaeus claimed Celts had the most beautiful women of any of the Barbarian tribes
>>17410385not op but hirisplex are an absolute meme. my gf is a natural blond and im ginger. it predicted us as likely to have dark hair. i will never take those things seriously again. dont these retarded jewish dna sequencing tests, the same ones that claim corded ware and yamnaya were dark eyed and haired too. laugh at them. the mirror test is all you need.
>>17410392It's the same shit with the Yamna/CHG descended populations in the Balkans you lying tranny. They are all swarthoids. Germanics are lighter because of higher SHG/Motala admixture.
>>17410421>corded ware were dark with dark eyes>even though everyone in those areas is blond as fuck sure thing jew, fuck off with your meme sequencing
>>17410423>don't trust Irisplex>another Slavshit like you predicts the same exact thinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWtt75Kgdo
you dont need hirisplex when you have eyesthe closer to sintashta you are, the whiter you are, simple as.
>>17410451Why did he predict the same thing then? >>17410443 And why are you we wuzing as Sintashta when you don't descend from them?
>>17410392>its a meme because... its a meme ok?
Gaulish excellence.
>>17410451They were useless Check-out>>17410443
>>17410378The Celts wouldn't ever make an empire that big. >I've seen many other English people come back as 70-80% Celt + Briton as wThe germanic ancestry in the British isles is, overstated.The Saxons didn't kill all the celts in England.>>17410514This book has terrible methodology. Bugman tier.
>>17410627Germanics were at least 50% Celt to begin with by the time they came over to England. The only true Germanic haplogroup is I1A. Everything else is Celt in origin. Copers try to say that Saxon R1B was some magically different Germanic subclade and that they were a completely different people, but that's nonsense. They were Celtic brothers who split off from one another, but brothers nonetheless. Only I1A is a Germanic/Norse bloodline. Most Germans are R1B, therefore, Gaulish. And therefore only about 10-15% of British men are I1A.
There are Celtic burial sites and DNA everywhere from Ireland to Bohemia to Turkey to Ancient China.>It is readily acknowledged by historians that the Celtic (Cimmerian) and Anglo-Saxon (Saka) peoples in particular provided the racial stock from which modern western nations have developed—including Great Britain and the United States. Yair Davidy notes, “The Scyths, Goths, and Cimmerians and related groups of Scythia were all one people, from one original stock, which was Israelite. From these nations emerged those of northwest Europe [and, thus, the British Isles and America].”2 Accordingly, establishing the identity of the ancient Celtic-Saxon peoples is the key to connecting the “lost” tribes of Israel to the nations destined to inherit the birthright blessings promised to Abraham.https://www.timesofisrael.com/anomalous-blue-eyed-people-came-to-israel-6500-years-ago-from-iran-dna-shows/
>>17410639Tbh even then a fair bit of the I1 is probably directly from Norway or Denmark. Then again there's recognizeably germanic R1a and R1b subclades.
>>17410651I can back this up. The Hu People of North Cin and the Xinjiang Oasis States came back as Caucasian, Indo European and such. The expelling of the tribes from Babylon and Assyria is interesting.
>>17410378>So are all Western Europeans pretty much Celts then?Strictly speaking all western euros from Portugal to Germany and from Italy to Scotland have their indo-european descent come from a fairly closely related group of tribes that shared a great many linguistic and cultural similarities.Calling them all celts would be as inaccurate as calling them all italic or germanic, but the group immediately above celts taxonomically speaking does indeed make up basically all of western Europe, yes.
>>17410670It figures since even Genghis Khan was ginger and his haplogroup was likely R1B. His father Temujin was from a clan noted for their 'flame-red hair'. Mongolian noble mummies have been found and when their dna was sequenced it showed they were haplogroup R1B.>The rulers of the Aztec and Mayan empires were said to have blonde or reddish hair and light eyes.>Genghis Khan was red haired>Mohammed was red haired>Ramses was red haired>King David was red haired>Ancient Chinese describe the Aryan people living in the North and West of China, like the Qincha, to have red hair and green eyes
>>17410666Fair, but who people become is not the truth of their origins. It's like how Indians argue that the R1A-Z93 Aryans who arrived were actually brown, just because their descendants are now brown. It's like a Swedish mulatto claiming he is a Viking. The bloodline simply becomes corrupted and no longer true. In reality, Z93 Aryans would have looked and acted no differently to other R1A blonde Europeans and Scythians of the time, even if their specific subclade in the area is Z93 and 'central Asian'. It really doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Just like how Scythians were very clearly Caucasian but became Kazakh and Tajik mutts due to gradual miscegenation.Likewise nearly all the I1A Finns I've seen and met look no different to Swedes and Danes, not the typical Asiatic Finn stereotype. 'Germanic' R1B was almost certainly from the same people, culture and stock as Celtic R1B.
>>17410681Jesus was very likely ginger and R1B too. The Sumela monastery built in 386 AD depicts Jesus with red hair. Jesus was almost certainly a Magi of Persian/West Scythian origins, and West Scythians were R1B.
>>17410651>ChinaNo. Just no. Even the scythian connections are absolutely overblown.>>17410670Xinjiang was never a coore part of China. Until the 18th century when the Manchus conquered it and the Chicoms inherited it.
>>17410726There are Royal graves in China from the Shang dynasty who were found to belong to haplogroup R1B. The CCP is very hesitant to let this info out because it will ruin Chinese nationalism.
Distribution of R-M269 in Europe increases in frequency from east to west. It peaks at the national level in Wales at a rate of 92%, at 82% in Ireland, 70% in Scotland, 68% in Spain, 60% in France (76% in Normandy), about 60% in Portugal,[41] 50% in Germany, 50% in the Netherlands, 47% in Italy,[59] 45% in Eastern England and 42% in Iceland. R-M269 reaches levels as high as 95% in parts of Ireland. It has also been found at lower frequencies throughout central Eurasia,[60] but with relatively high frequency among the Bashkirs of the Perm region (84.0%).Bashkirs are basically just slightly Asiatified Celts.
>>17410736Name the graves. What site?
>>17410745Thats probably what Genghis Khan/The Mongolian nobles looked like.
>>17410745No John, you are the Asiatics.
>>17410681>>17410719Stop wewuzzing retard. Mohammed was described as black-haired and Jesus was described as a typical Semite.
>>17410382>blond or red hairedRead such descriptions as "non-black haired".It's obviously Gauls were mostly brown haired like French people.
>>17411341The same thing applies to Roman emperors. Nordgroids we wuzed Augustus as a blond Nordic this whole time when he had brown hair in reality. Also, the Gauls had a custom of dying their hair blond, that needs to be mentioned. They literally looked like Guy Fieri.
>>17411372*dyeing
>>17410378>celtsthat's the western equivalent of Scythian. both are just Indo-European Füllmasse
>>17411495Fake map. Iberia has a massive number of oppida, including several of the largest ones in Europe like Castro de Ulaca.And when is people going to realize that celts looked like this? Just white skinned, European features but dark hair and brown eyes. Even celts in Britain probably also looked like this.
>>17411588They looked like Basques/Baskoid South French. Galiciajeets lost.
>>17410681>His father Temujin was from a clan noted for their 'flame-red hair'.Genghis Khan's real name was Temüjin. His father's name was Yesugei.
>>17410681> The rulers of the Aztec and Mayan empires were said to have blonde or reddish hair and light eyes.This would probably be the ANE, South American natives have the highest ANE of any population, some individuals score 50% and blonde hair can be found in 40% ANE 60% Mongoloid siberians so mongoloid admixture doesnt always cancel out blonde genes
>>17411588Post a better map so
>>17411588Most britons had blue eyes and brown hair like modern brits.
>>17411331Cope harder, Mohammed's direct descendants are ginger and his hair relics are ginger too. All famous and infamous men in history were at least 1/2 Celtic in origin.
>>17412376Retard. 99% Mohammed's descendants are black haired.Buddha>black hair>So, at a later time, while still young, a black-haired young man endowed with the blessings of youth in the first stage of life... - Ariyapariyesanā SuttaJesus>dark hair and eyes>For it is impossible that He, to whom was imparted some divine quality beyond other beings, should not differ from others; whereas this person did not differ in any respect from another, but was, as they report, little, and ill-favoured, and ignoble. - Celsus>Jesus probably looked like a typical Jew of his time; standing around 166 cm (5.45 ft) tall with a slim but muscular build, olive-brown skin, brown eyes and short, dark hair.Muhammad>black hair and eyes>The Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, is neither too short nor too tall. His hair are neither curly nor straight, but a mixture of the two. He is a man of black hair and large skull. - Ali ibn Abi Talib>I saw a man, pure and clean, with a handsome face and a fine figure. He was not marred by a skinny body, nor was he overly small in the head and neck. He was graceful and elegant, with intensely black eyes and thick eyelashes. There was a huskiness in his voice, and his neck was long. His beard was thick, and his eyebrows were finely arched and joined together. - Umm Ma'badMartin Luther>dark brown hair and eyes>Melanchthon made a casual remark that Luther’s eyes were brown and compared them to the eyes of a lion or falcon. Kessler, when he became Luther’s pupil, observed that his professor had “deep black eyes and brows, sparkling and burning like stars, so that one could hardly bear looking at them.”John Calvin>black hair and brown eyes >He was of middle stature, dark complexion, thin, pale, emaciated, and in feeble health; but he had a finely chiseled face, a well-formed mouth, pointed beard, black hair, a prominent nose, a lofty forehead, and flaming eyes which kept their lustre to the last.
>>17410378The Celts were red-haired and had light eyes, anyone with those features is undoubtedly of Celtic origin.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_red_hair
>>17411588I don't know how mutted Spain is today but my grandma was from Galicia and she was a redhead with blue eyes.
>>17412491https://youtu.be/hCw1eKu6bKI?si=vYGE9PDfwyZrIX1W
Its safe to say da Vinci was Celt
>we wuz romans, greeks, jewish, egyptians etc.Why are North European like this?
>>17412480Anyone with these phenotypes is celtic
>>17414040I look exactly like the North Atlantic guy but I have brown eyes and lighter hair.I also look nothing like the other North Atlantic collage pic that floats around.
>>17412376>>17412480Red hair is result of inbreeding. The MED BVLL continental Celts weren't gingeroids.
>>17410378"Celtic" is a linguistic and Cultural categorization, not genetic.
>>17415386So is Germanic. But we can map out people who primarily descend from Celtic tribes on PCAs
>>17415398Kind of. They basically stretch from Spain to Britain. Germanics on the other hand are Scandinavian-like. It's a different cline basically.
>>17410378Distance to: Celtic:HOC001_merged0.07217447 French_Provence0.07237979 Spanish_Galicia0.07247621 Spanish_Extremadura0.07263407 Spanish_Baleares0.07291229 PortugueseDistance to: Celtic:APG001_merged0.03306230 Spanish_Barcelones0.03393686 French_Auvergne0.03503920 French_Occitanie0.03531511 Spanish_Asturias0.03636077 Spanish_Camp_de_TarragonaAnd official ones:HOC001 (Hochdorf chief)Steppe - 37WHG - 12Farmer - 49APG001 (second richest grave):steppe - 39WHG - 11farmer - 49They were basically French/North Spanish like. Those two guys represent the richest Celtic graves ever discovered (both from South Germany).
>>17415423Im not saying they’re the same people, Im saying Celtic and Germanic are both linguistic and genetic groups and they overlap.
>>17415447They overlap today due to mixing. The original ones didn't really overlap.
>>17415398>>17415423An Austrian is going to be closer genetically to a Czech than to a "fellow Germanic" Swede, but that doesn't make them less German. The Iron Age Celtic people living in what is now the Czech Republic would have been more closely related to nearby non-Celtic people than to "fellow Celts" in Ireland.Unless you're talking about the cultural founding population, language-races are a meme.
>>17415454>cultural founding populationShould add: it's not as if these were typically super distinct groups either, since they were themselves the product of earlier processes, and typically not distinct from neighboring peoples.
>>17415452I am obviously talking about the modern populations.
>>17415454I don’t believe in language races, the only thing that matters when categorizing races is genetics.And the only reason why Swiss, Austrians and South Germanics are significantly closer to Spaniards than North Germanics are, is due to this Celtic heritage.
>>17415454>The Iron Age Celtic people living in what is now the Czech Republic would have been more closely related to nearby non-Celtic people than to "fellow Celts" in Ireland.That's only because Insular Celts were genetically different from continental ones. The Czech Hallstatt or La Tene samples are pretty close to other Celtic samples. They don't really resemble the Baltic/Slavic like people who back then lived somewhere in East Poland.
>>17415493Right, and they'd have also differed from Iberian Celts. The problem with the idea of (non-Iberian) continental Celts being a mostly uniform people is that most likely, the people living in this region would have been similar even before the emergence of an identifiable Celtic language/culture.Is the similarity due to a Celtic culture, or the result of the Bell-Beaker expansion?
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