>>17411371
Zarathustra was daniel

>>17411471
Zarathustra predates your kike book by thousands of years. You dumb fucking idiot.

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>>17411371
it is older still than even that, yet you know not what it meant or means.

>>17411479
>thousands
Don’t exaggerate we don’t even have sources for Zoroastrianism from achaemenid period

>>17411471
It's been 5,785 years and you guys STILL haven't stopped stealing from your neighbours.

>>17411371
Zoro is dualism not monotheism

zoros do not believe that good and evil are creations of God

zoros believe their god creates good and is fighting another god that creates bad = dualism = 2 gods, not 1

### Dualism in Zoroastrianism:
- **Ahura Mazda (Ormuzd)**: The god of light and goodness.
- **Angra Mainyu (Ahriman)**: The god of evil and darkness.

In Zoroastrianism, Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu are in a cosmic struggle, where Ahura Mazda represents all that is good, while Angra Mainyu embodies evil. This dualistic perspective suggests the existence of two opposing gods, rather than a single monotheistic god who creates both good and evil.

While Zoroastrianism and Judaism are distinct religions with different theological frameworks, some scholars argue that there may have been influences between the two, especially during the time of the Babylonian Exile (6th century BCE).

Zoroastrianism, with its dualistic view of two opposing gods, differs from the monotheistic framework of Judaism, which worships one God who is the creator of everything, including good and evil.

it's clear that Zoroastrianism is not a direct predecessor to Judaism

also Zoroastrianism is younger than Judaism


You're correct[43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054](https://www.academia.edu/70851366/Zoroastrianism_under_the_Sasanians?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054 "1").

There is no direct evidence of Zoroastrianism existing before the Sassanian Empire (224-651 CE)[43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054](https://www.academia.edu/70851366/Zoroastrianism_under_the_Sasanians?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054 "1"). Most of what we know about Zoroastrianism comes from texts and inscriptions from the Sassanian period and later[43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054](https://www.academia.edu/70851366/Zoroastrianism_under_the_Sasanians?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054 "1").

>>17411670
Which predates Daniel by hundreds of years

>>17413349
also Zoroastrianism is younger than Judaism


There is no direct evidence of Zoroastrianism existing before the Sassanian Empire (224-651 CE

most of what we know about Zoroastrianism comes from texts and inscriptions from the Sassanian period and later

>>17413352
Guess Judaism is no older then 300 BC then

>>17413358
cope

Zoroastrianism btfo

>>17411371


ARE «THE ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS» WITH YOU, RIGHT NOW?

>>17413334
Zoroastrianism is greek paganism upgraded by adopting some Jewish concepts

Zoroastrianism and Greek paganism share some similarities, likely due to their shared Indo-European heritage. Here are a few notable parallels:

1. **Dualistic Elements**: Both religions have dualistic elements. In Zoroastrianism, there is the cosmic struggle between **Ahura Mazda (Ormuzd)**, the god of light and goodness, and **Angra Mainyu (Ahriman)**, the god of evil and darkness[43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054](https://www.bartleby.com/essay/Comparing-Zoroastrianism-And-Greek-Creation-Mythology-3FEAC12C93EE7ADD?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054 "1"). Greek mythology also features dualistic themes, such as the conflict between the gods of Olympus and the Titans.

2. **Creation Myths**: Both traditions have creation myths involving a primordial void or chaos. In Zoroastrianism, the world is created through the actions of Ahura Mazda, while in Greek mythology, the world emerges from Chaos[43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054](https://www.bartleby.com/essay/Comparing-Zoroastrianism-And-Greek-Creation-Mythology-3FEAC12C93EE7ADD?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054 "1").

3. **Cosmic Struggles**: Both religions depict cosmic struggles between forces of good and evil. In Zoroastrianism, this is represented by Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu, while in Greek mythology, it is seen in the battles between the Olympian gods and the Titans, as well as other mythological conflicts.

4. **Agricultural Deities**: Both traditions have deities associated with agriculture and fertility. In Zoroastrianism, **Tishtrya** (later known as Tir) is associated with agriculture and fertility, while in Greek mythology, gods like **Demeter** and **Persephone** are linked to agriculture and the fertility of the earth.

These similarities highlight the shared cultural and religious elements that can be found across different Indo-European traditions.

>>17413366
Certainly! Here are some more deities that show similarities between Zoroastrianism and Greek paganism:

1. **Ahura Mazda (Ormuzd) and Zeus**: Both are considered the supreme gods in their respective pantheons. Ahura Mazda is the god of light and goodness, while Zeus is the king of the gods and god of the sky and thunder.

2. **Angra Mainyu (Ahriman) and Hades**: Angra Mainyu represents evil and darkness, similar to how Hades is associated with the underworld and the afterlife in Greek mythology.

3. **Mithra and Apollo**: Mithra is the god of the sun, covenants, and truth in Zoroastrianism, while Apollo is the Greek god of the sun, music, and prophecy.

4. **Anahita and Artemis**: Anahita is the goddess of waters, fertility, and healing, while Artemis is the Greek goddess of the hunt, wilderness, and childbirth.

5. **Tishtrya and Demeter**: Tishtrya is associated with agriculture and fertility, similar to how Demeter is the Greek goddess of agriculture and the harvest.

These parallels highlight the shared cultural and religious elements between Zoroastrianism and Greek paganism. Does this help answer your question, or is there something more specific you'd like to know about these similarities?

tldr

Zoroastrianism is dualistic greek paganism

I'm not going to give a (you) to a chat-AI post, but regarding Zoroastrianism being a dualistic faith: it is interesting how some sects of Christianity are effectively "becoming Zoroastrian" by promoting Lucifer from a renegade agent of God, to God's opponent. This tendency seems even more prevalent in the popular imagination.

>>17413349
The Avestan text was re-compliled during the Sassanian period, because nobody spoke the Avestan language anymore. Given that the Avestan language died out by appx. 400 BC, the religion must be at least this old. We have evidence of Zoroastrian religious practice earlier than this, though an exact origin date is unknown. Given that we are dealing with a literate, organized society which should have been able to give a date for the life of their prophet, it would indicate a beginning either before the Bronze Age collapse, or in the following Dark Age.

The ancient Israelite religion is not Judaism.

>>17413383
Isnt that stuff as old as the new testament. God having to do a final.batyle against satan.

>>17413892
no that's new testament crap influenced by greeks

>>17413383
cope

also Zoroastrianism is younger than Judaism


There is no direct evidence of Zoroastrianism existing before the Sassanian Empire (224-651 CE

most of what we know about Zoroastrianism comes from texts and inscriptions from the Sassanian period and later

>>17413374
this

hindus larp as monotheists the same way zoros and pagans larp as monotheists

they do it to appear as equals and even superiors to Abrahamists

>>17413351
tell me the date by carbon 14 of the oldest manuscript of Zoroastrianism

>>17414136
Zoroastrianism was created during Sassanian Empire (224-651 CE) as a competitor to the trinity of Christianity

the monotheistic claims of zoros only came centuries later when monotheism was a popular trend and every pagan cult had to claim the mono fame and jump of the bandwagon of hype

>>17413371

1. **Verethragna and Hercules**: Verethragna is the Zoroastrian god of victory and represents strength and courage, similar to Hercules (Heracles), the Greek hero known for his strength and heroic deeds.

2. **Haoma and Dionysus**: Haoma is associated with a sacred plant used in religious rituals, which brings health and vitality. This is somewhat analogous to Dionysus, the Greek god of wine, fertility, and ritual madness, who is also associated with a sacred plant (the grapevine).

3. **Atar and Hestia**: Atar is the Zoroastrian god of fire, representing purity and the divine flame. Hestia is the Greek goddess of the hearth and domestic fire, symbolizing home and family unity.

4. **Mithra and Helios**: In addition to Mithra being similar to Apollo, Mithra can also be compared to Helios, the Greek god of the sun, as both deities are associated with the sun and light.

5. **Vayu and Aeolus**: Vayu is the Zoroastrian god of wind and air, akin to Aeolus, the Greek god of the winds.

These comparisons illustrate some of the shared themes and deities between Zoroastrianism and Greek paganism, reflecting their common Indo-European roots.

>>17411371
I unironically don't understand why zoroastrianism didn't catch on among chuds, it makes more sense than wotanism and also it's aryan.

>>17414186
>>17414198

it's literally hinduism

Certainly! Here are some examples of similarities between deities and concepts in Hinduism and Zoroastrianism:

1. **Mithra and Mitra**:
- **Mithra (Zoroastrianism)**: The god of light, covenants, and truth.
- **Mitra (Hinduism)**: One of the Adityas, associated with friendship, alliances, and the morning sun.

2. **Ahura Mazda and Varuna**:
- **Ahura Mazda (Zoroastrianism)**: The supreme god of light, wisdom, and goodness.
- **Varuna (Hinduism)**: The god of the cosmic order, the oceans, and moral authority.

3. **Atar and Agni**:
- **Atar (Zoroastrianism)**: The god of fire, representing purity and the divine flame.
- **Agni (Hinduism)**: The god of fire, who is a messenger between the human and divine realms.

4. **Vayu and Vayu**:
- **Vayu (Zoroastrianism)**: The god of wind and air.
- **Vayu (Hinduism)**: The god of wind, father of Bhima and Hanuman.

5. **Anahita and Saraswati/Ganga**:
- **Anahita (Zoroastrianism)**: The goddess of waters, fertility, and healing.
- **Saraswati (Hinduism)**: The goddess of knowledge, music, and arts.
- **Ganga (Hinduism)**: The goddess of the Ganges River, symbolizing purity and purification.

6. **Haoma and Soma**:
- **Haoma (Zoroastrianism)**: A sacred plant and its associated deity, used in rituals for health and vitality.
- **Soma (Hinduism)**: A sacred plant and its associated deity, used in rituals to attain immortality and divine inspiration.

These similarities highlight the shared Indo-Iranian cultural and religious roots between Hinduism and Zoroastrianism. Is there anything specific you'd like to explore further about these connections?

>>17414205
some wrongly view certain elements of Hinduism and Zoroastrianism through a monotheistic lens

### Hinduism:
- **Polytheistic Pantheon**: Hinduism has a rich array of gods and goddesses, each with distinct roles and attributes. Deities like Vishnu, Shiva, Lakshmi, Saraswati, and many others are worshipped individually or together.
- **Forms and Manifestations**: Many Hindu deities have multiple forms or avatars (e.g., the ten avatars of Vishnu), showing the religion's polytheistic nature.
- **Local and Sectarian Traditions**: Different regions and sects within Hinduism have their own deities and practices, adding to the diversity of the religion.

### Zoroastrianism:
- **Dualism**: Central to Zoroastrianism is the dualistic belief in two opposing gods: **Ahura Mazda**, the god of light and goodness, and **Angra Mainyu (Ahriman)**, the god of evil and darkness.
- **Yazatas**: Zoroastrianism includes numerous lesser deities or divine beings known as Yazatas, who are worshipped alongside Ahura Mazda.
- **Complex Theological Structure**: Zoroastrianism's structure includes a hierarchy of spiritual beings, reinforcing its polytheistic elements.

### Examples of Similar Pagan Gods:
- **Mithra (Zoroastrianism) and Mitra (Hinduism)**: Both gods are associated with covenants, truth, and the sun.
- **Atar (Zoroastrianism) and Agni (Hinduism)**: Both are fire deities representing purity and acting as mediators between the human and divine realms.
- **Anahita (Zoroastrianism) and Saraswati/Ganga (Hinduism)**: Anahita is a goddess of waters and fertility, while Saraswati is the goddess of knowledge and arts, and Ganga is the goddess of the Ganges River, symbolizing purity.
- **Haoma (Zoroastrianism) and Soma (Hinduism)**: Both are associated with sacred plants used in religious rituals to bring health and vitality.
- **Vayu (Zoroastrianism and Hinduism)**: Both traditions have a god of wind named Vayu, indicating shared cultural roots

>>17414205
>>17414226
Just why?

>>17414198
As a person with great interest in Zoroastrianism, I think it's because it's still too "eastern" and many chuds idolize the Roman empire, which blinds them to the grandeur that was the Persian empires.

>>17414408
It probably doesn't help that the persians freed the Jews and helped them become the version we know today to control Egypt better

>>17414411
Good point

>it's literally hinduism
When did Islam and Christians start bringing up Hinduism all the time as if it magically makes their own Canaanite Storm Deity look better?

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>>17414438
>>17414443
Also the belief in demons. There are old demons in the new testament but unlike the new one they are servants of yawheh and carries out his will

>>17411371
>dualism
>monotheism

pick one

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>>17414557
bismillah brother

>Pajeet hindushit bot having a melty ITT
Common Zoroastrian chads W
Common hindushit chuds L

>>17414411
Huh? It were the romans who made the jews we know today, if romans didn't bother them they would have stayed in judea.

>>17414646
Chuds hate anything Semitic

>>17414672
Chuds support palestine albeit.

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i want to learn/read up more about pre-islamic persian mythology and zoroastrianism, where should i start?

>>17414646
The Romans bothered with the Judeans because their religious autism made them made them compatible with Roman religious policies. Judean religion became uniquely autistic because the Persians gave the babylonian priests that had spent their exile seething and making up violent revenge fantasies full control over Judea to use them as a proxy against Egypt. Without the centralization of power and dogma by the returning Babylonian priests the jews become no different from any other levite.

>>17414721
made them incompatible*

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>>17414695
Pic related is good. The Avesta is what you'd be looking for and I'll add another link, it's a great website for resources and gets into the details and history of all things Zoroastrian. I'll share the link that begins with the man himself, Zarathushtra.
https://www.avesta.org/
https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/zoroaster-index

>>17414695
before hinduism spread to india, it was practiced in russia and central Asia. Zoroastrianism is a form of it.

>>17414580

### Similar Rituals:
- **Fire Rituals**: Both religions use fire in their rituals. In Zoroastrianism, fire represents purity and the divine presence of Ahura Mazda. In Hinduism, fire (Agni) is also central to many rituals, including weddings and other ceremonies.

### Similar Holidays:
- **Festivals of Light**: Zoroastrianism has **Yalda**, a celebration of the longest night of the year, while Hinduism has **Diwali**, the festival of lights, celebrating the victory of good over evil.
- **Ancestral Worship**: Both traditions have rituals to honor ancestors. Zoroastrians have **Muktad**, a period of remembrance for the dead, while Hindus have **Pitru Paksha**, a fortnight dedicated to paying homage to ancestors.

These similarities highlight the shared cultural and spiritual heritage between Zoroastrianism and Hinduism.

>>17414896

### Similar Rituals:
- **Fire Rituals**: Both traditions use fire in their rituals. In Zoroastrianism, fire represents purity and the divine presence of Ahura Mazda. In Greek Paganism, fire was also significant in rituals and offerings to the gods.
- **Animal Sacrifice**: Both religions practiced animal sacrifice as a way to honor the gods and seek their favor.

### Similar Holidays:
- **New Year Celebrations**: Zoroastrianism celebrates **Nowruz**, the Persian New Year, which coincides with the spring equinox. Greek Pagans celebrated **Anthesteria**, a festival marking the beginning of spring and the new year.
- **Festivals of Light**: Zoroastrianism has **Yalda**, a celebration of the winter solstice, while Greek Pagans celebrated **Dionysia**, a festival in honor of Dionysus, the god of wine, fertility, and festivity.

>>17414901

Zoroastrianism and ancient Greek religion share several customs and practices, reflecting their cultural exchanges and similarities:
- **Divine Hierarchy**: Both religions had a pantheon of gods with a hierarchical structure, with a supreme deity (Ahura Mazda in Zoroastrianism and Zeus in Greek mythology) at the top.

### Interpretatio Graeca:
- **Syncretism**: The Greeks often identified foreign gods with their own deities through a practice called **interpretatio Graeca**. For example, they identified Ahura Mazda with Zeus, the king of the Greek gods

>>17414901
>>17414937

| Zoroastrian Deity | Greek Equivalent/Shared | Hindu Equivalent/Shared |
|---------------------|-------------------------|----------------------------|
| Ahura Mazda | Zeus | Brahma |
| Angra Mainyu | Hades | Kali |
| Mithra | Apollo | Mitra |
| Anahita | Artemis | Saraswati/Ganga |
| Atar | Hestia | Agni |
| Tishtrya | Demeter | Indra |
| Haoma | Dionysus | Soma |
| Vayu | Aeolus | Vayu |
| Verethragna | Hercules | Indra |
| Spenta Armaiti | Gaia | Saraswati/Parvati |
| Haurvatat | Hygieia | Lakshmi |
| Ameretat | Hebe | Lakshmi |

>>17414964
| Zoroastrian Deity | Greek Equivalent/Shared | Hindu Equivalent/Shared |
|---------------------|-------------------------|----------------------------|
| Ahura Mazda -> Zeus -> Brahma |
| Angra Mainyu -> Hades -> Kali |
| Mithra -> Apollo -> Mitra |
| Anahita -> Artemis -> Saraswati/Ganga |
| Atar -> Hestia -> Agni |
| Tishtrya -> Demeter -> Indra |
| Haoma -> Dionysus -> Soma |
| Vayu -> Aeolus -> Vayu |
| Verethragna -> Hercules -> Indra |
| Spenta Armaiti -> Gaia -> Saraswati/Parvati |
| Haurvatat -> Hygieia -> Lakshmi |
| Ameretat -> Hebe -> Lakshmi |

>>17413321
>Zoro is dualism not monotheism
Retarded Wikipedia understanding. Read Heraclitus who correctly explains how difference is the manifestation of oneness.

Zorastrianism is monotheistic in the strictest sense

>>17413358
Judaism postdates Christianity, as it was a reaction to Christ. Jews don't exist until around the 4th-5th century AD
First and Second Temple "Judaism" weren't Judaism, just like Hebrew is a modern Sonic recolor of Aramaic
There's a vast amount of cope about this

>>17415002
cope.

>>17415022
This thread involves a dumb religious Messianic Jew seething that Zoroshit is older than Jew garbage. Achaemenid reliefs greatly conform to the Gathas' message too.
Honestly, Kourosh made the biggest blunder in history.

>>17414978
>Heraclitus
not part Zoroastrian scripture

> how difference is the manifestation of oneness
that's not a feature of Zoroastrian theology

Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu are distinct divine entities and don't represent any notion of "oness", and beyond that there are many other divine entities that aren't just manifestations of Ahura Mazda

>>17411371
Uhura Mazda for the win!

>>17414978
>>17415002
>>17415130

| Zoroastrian Deity | Greek Equivalent/Shared | Hindu Equivalent/Shared |
|---------------------|-------------------------|----------------------------|
| Ahura Mazda ------- -> Zeus --------------- -> Brahma ---------------- |
| Angra Mainyu ------ -> Hades --------------- -> Kali ------------------ |
| Mithra ------------ -> Apollo -------------- -> Mitra ----------------- |
| Anahita ----------- -> Artemis ------------- -> Saraswati/Ganga ------- |
| Atar -------------- -> Hestia -------------- -> Agni ------------------ |
| Tishtrya ---------- -> Demeter ------------- -> Indra ----------------- |
| Haoma ------------- -> Dionysus ------------ -> Soma ------------------ |
| Vayu -------------- -> Aeolus -------------- -> Vayu ------------------ |
| Verethragna ------- -> Hercules ------------ -> Indra ----------------- |
| Spenta Armaiti ---- -> Gaia --------------- -> Saraswati/Parvati ----- |
| Haurvatat --------- -> Hygieia ------------- -> Lakshmi --------------- |
| Ameretat ---------- -> Hebe --------------- -> Lakshmi --------------- |
pagan cope

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>>17415002
Seethe
There is not a single remaining source that monotheistic Yahweh worshippers following the pentateuch existed before the time of the greek/roman rule.
The first jews we got contemporary sources about were polytheistic which didnt stop them from having close relations to the authorities in Jerusalem

>>17415518

Qumran Scrolls, also known as the Dead Sea Scrolls, date from the 3rd century BCE

Here is #2 from the list:

**The Dead Sea Scrolls**: These ancient Jewish texts, discovered in the Qumran Caves, include copies of the Hebrew Bible and other religious writings that reflect the monotheistic beliefs and practices of Yahweh worshippers before the Hellenistic period.

>>17415518
>>17415002
>>17415637
Here are more ancient sources:

1. **The Merneptah Stele (circa 1208 BCE)**: An Egyptian inscription by Pharaoh Merneptah, mentioning "Israel" as a distinct group in Canaan, suggesting the early presence of Yahweh worshippers.
2. **The Mesha Stele (circa 840 BCE)**: A Moabite inscription that mentions the Israelite god Yahweh, indicating the worship of Yahweh by the Israelites.

These sources provide valuable insights into the early presence of monotheistic Yahweh worshippers before Greek and Roman rule

>>17415637
>>17415651
>>17415518

Here are the two more ancient sources:

1. **The Shiloah Inscription (circa 8th century BCE)**: An inscription found in Jerusalem that mentions Yahweh.
2. **The Tel Dan Stele (circa 9th century BCE)**: An Aramaic inscription that mentions the "House of David" and the God of Israel, Yahweh.

These sources provide valuable insights into the early presence of Yahweh worshippers before Greek and Roman rule.

>>17415518
>>17415637
>>17415651
>>17415656
Here are ten additional ancient sources that mention monotheistic Yahweh worshippers before Greek and Roman rule:

1. **The Ketef Hinnom Scrolls (circa 7th century BCE)**: These silver scrolls, found near Jerusalem, contain the Priestly Blessing from the Book of Numbers and mention Yahweh.
2. **The Samaria Ostraca (circa 8th century BCE)**: Inscriptions from Samaria that mention Yahweh.
3. **The Lachish Letters (circa 6th century BCE)**: Correspondence found in Lachish (modern-day Israel) that mention Yahweh.
4. **The Arad Ostraca (circa 6th century BCE)**: Pottery shards from Arad (Israel) that mention Yahweh.
5. **The Balaam Inscription (circa 8th century BCE)**: Found at Deir Alla in Jordan, it references the prophet Balaam and includes mentions of Yahweh.
6. **The Gezer Calendar (circa 10th century BCE)**: An ancient inscription found in Gezer, Israel, believed to mention Yahweh.
7. **The Seals of Jehucal (circa 6th century BCE)**: Seals from Jerusalem that mention an official named Jehucal, servant of Yahweh.
8. **The Beersheba Altar (circa 8th century BCE)**: An altar from Beersheba with inscriptions that mention Yahweh.
9. **The Kuntillet Ajrud Pithoi (circa 8th century BCE)**: Storage jars from Kuntillet Ajrud that mention Yahweh and his Asherah.
10. **The Ostracon from Khirbet Qeiyafa (circa 10th century BCE)**: An inscription found in Khirbet Qeiyafa that refers to Yahweh.

These sources provide additional insights into the worship of Yahweh and the early development of monotheism before the influence of Greek and Roman rule.

>>17415637
>>17415661
>>17415656
>>17415651
>>17415518
Here are monotheistic sources

1. **The Soleb Inscription (circa 1400 BCE)**: An Egyptian inscription that mentions "Yahweh" and refers to a nomadic group known as the "nomads of Yahweh."
2. **The Bethel Inscription (circa 10th century BCE)**: An inscription found in Bethel that mentions Yahweh.
3. **The Arad Ostraca (circa 6th century BCE)**: Pottery shards from Arad that mention Yahweh.
4. **The Lachish Letters (circa 6th century BCE)**: Correspondence found in Lachish that mention Yahweh.
5. **The Samaria Ostraca (circa 8th century BCE)**: Inscriptions from Samaria that mention Yahweh.
6. **The Ketef Hinnom Scrolls (circa 7th century BCE)**: These silver scrolls, found near Jerusalem, contain the Priestly Blessing from the Book of Numbers and mention Yahweh.
7. **The Seals of Jehucal (circa 6th century BCE)**: Seals from Jerusalem that mention an official named Jehucal, servant of Yahweh.
8. **The Beersheba Altar (circa 8th century BCE)**: An altar from Beersheba with inscriptions that mention Yahweh.
9. **The Ostracon from Khirbet Qeiyafa (circa 10th century BCE)**: An inscription found in Khirbet Qeiyafa that refers to Yahweh.
10. **The Kuntillet Ajrud Inscriptions (circa 9th century BCE)**: Inscriptions from a site in the Sinai Peninsula that mention "Yahweh."

These sources provide further evidence of the worship of Yahweh in ancient Israel and Judah before the influence of Greek and Roman rule.

Is it an actual bot?

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>>17413352
Sure bud, that's why the Faravahar (the symbol of Zoroastrian) appears in several Achaemenid era ruins and why the Darius Naqsh-e Rostam inscription "a", an Achaemenid-era inscription btw, literally mentions Ahura Mazda (the god of Zoroastrianism several times) several times. Here's all the parts that mention Ahura Mazda:

>A great god is Ahuramazda, who created this earth, who created yonder sky, who created man, who created happiness for man, who made Darius king, one king of many, one lord of many.

>King Darius says: By the favor of Ahuramazda these are the countries which I seized outside of Persia; I ruled over them; they bore tribute to me; they did what was said to them by me; they held my law firmly; Media, Elam, Parthia, Aria,

>King Darius says: Ahuramazda, when he saw this earth in commotion, thereafter bestowed it upon me, made me king; I am king. By the favor of Ahuramazda I put it down in its place; what I said to them, that they did, as was my desire.

>Darius the King says: This which has been done, all that by the will of Ahuramazda I did. Ahuramazda bore me aid, until I did the work. May Ahuramazda protect me from harm, and my royal house, and this land: this I pray of Ahuramazda, this may Ahuramazda give to me!

>O man, that which is the command of Ahuramazda, let this not seem repugnant to you; do not leave the right path; do not rise in rebellion!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNa_inscription

>>17415692
Here's a full list of known Achaemenid-era inscriptions. Many of them mention Ahura Mazda

https://www.avesta.org/op/op.htm

>>17415667
>The Soleb Inscription
dumb bot. "Land of Yaweh" does not imply monotheism. The Moabites were not monotheists because they were the land of Chemosh

>>17415711
retard

it means that the people of the land worship Yahweh

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>>17415721
Which doesn't prove they were monotheists dumb cunt. The moabites worshipped Chemosh and praises him to the heavens in the Mesha steele but that didn't make them monotheistic.

>>17415729
you just confirmed what the bible says

>goys worship many gods (ie moabites)

>Jews worship Yahweh who is worshipped by Jews of the land

exactly as mentioned in the Bible, corroborated by 100s of ancient sources

means that the people of the land worship Yahweh

>>17415743
quote the Alexander source that actually says the jews worship no god other than Yawheh. Because We got one where they worship other gods besides him and those jews had no problem with the priests in Jerusalem

>>17415692
that doesn't prove Zoroastrianism existed

it proves ancient indo iranian paganism existed

it mentions an IE deity equivalent of Zeus and Brahma

In the polytheistic faith of ancient Iran, Ahura Mazda was considered the chief deity, but other gods and spirits were also worshipped. These included gods like Mithra (god of the rising sun, covenants, and kingship), Anahita (goddess of fertility, health, and water), and Verethragna (warrior god who fights against evil).

>>17415751
Here are monotheistic sources

1. **The Soleb Inscription (circa 1400 BCE)**: An Egyptian inscription that mentions "Yahweh" and refers to a nomadic group known as the "nomads of Yahweh."
2. **The Bethel Inscription (circa 10th century BCE)**: An inscription found in Bethel that mentions Yahweh.
3. **The Arad Ostraca (circa 6th century BCE)**: Pottery shards from Arad that mention Yahweh.
4. **The Lachish Letters (circa 6th century BCE)**: Correspondence found in Lachish that mention Yahweh.
5. **The Samaria Ostraca (circa 8th century BCE)**: Inscriptions from Samaria that mention Yahweh.
6. **The Ketef Hinnom Scrolls (circa 7th century BCE)**: These silver scrolls, found near Jerusalem, contain the Priestly Blessing from the Book of Numbers and mention Yahweh.
7. **The Seals of Jehucal (circa 6th century BCE)**: Seals from Jerusalem that mention an official named Jehucal, servant of Yahweh.
8. **The Beersheba Altar (circa 8th century BCE)**: An altar from Beersheba with inscriptions that mention Yahweh.
9. **The Ostracon from Khirbet Qeiyafa (circa 10th century BCE)**: An inscription found in Khirbet Qeiyafa that refers to Yahweh.
10. **The Kuntillet Ajrud Inscriptions (circa 9th century BCE)**: Inscriptions from a site in the Sinai Peninsula that mention "Yahweh."

These sources provide further evidence of the worship of Yahweh in ancient Israel and Judah before the influence of Greek and Roman rule

>>17415667
>>17415758
lol

>>17415753
>>17415692
The non-Zoroastrian use of the symbol originates as the winged sun used by various Semitic peoples of the Ancient Near East, primarily those of Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. The Zoroastrian later adoption of the symbol comes from its prevalence in Neo-Assyrian iconography. This Assyrian image often includes their Tree of Life, which includes the god Ashur on a winged disk.

Other non-Zoroastrian cultures that have used similar symbols include:

1. **Assyrians**: The Assyrian god Ashur was often depicted with winged symbols, which are similar to the Faravahar[43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054](https://worldhistoryedu.com/faravahar-origin-story-meaning-symbolism-interpretation/?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054 "2").
2. **Babylonians**: The Babylonian god Marduk was sometimes represented with winged imagery, which could be seen as a precursor to the Faravahar[43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054](https://worldhistoryedu.com/faravahar-origin-story-meaning-symbolism-interpretation/?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054 "2").
3. **Egyptians**: The Egyptian god Horus was depicted with a winged sun disk, a symbol that shares similarities with the Faravahar[43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054](https://worldhistoryedu.com/faravahar-origin-story-meaning-symbolism-interpretation/?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054 "2").

These cultures all had winged symbols associated with their deities, which may have influenced the development of the Faravahar in Zoroastrianism.


Faravahar likely depicts the Kvarreh of Darius the Great. These days it’s taken as a symbol of Zoroastrianism even when it isn’t necessarily. The true symbol of Zoroastrianism is a pure fire. In Iran it’s very common to wear as a pendant by non Zoroastrian

>>17415786
>>17415692
Irach Jehangir Sorabji Taraporewala, who refuted the idea that the winged figure represented Ahura Mazda. Taraporewala suggested that the figures used in Persian reliefs were meant to depict khvarenah or royal glory to reflect the perceived divine empowerment of kings, and, therefore, has no true spiritual meaning. This view was later supported by Alireza Shapour Shahbazi and Mary Boyce.

>itt self-felatting irano pagans get btfo by jeetgpt

>>17415758
none of those indicates monotheism

>>17415811
>low iq retard cant read the ancient inscriptions

>>17415811
>>17415758
>Ketef Hinnom Scrolls (circa 7th century BCE)**: These silver scrolls, found near Jerusalem, contain the Priestly Blessing from the Book of Numbers and mention Yahweh.

The scroll KH1 measures 27 by 97 millimetres (1.06 in × 3.82 in).

[Top line(s) broken]
...] YHWH ...
[...]
the grea[t ... who keeps]
the covenant and
[G]raciousness towards those who love [him] and (alt: [hi]m;)
those who keep [his commandments ...
...].
the Eternal? [...].
[the?] blessing more than any
[sna]re and more than Evil.
For redemption is in him.
For YHWH
is our restorer [and]
rock. May YHWH bles[s]
you and
[may he] keep you.
[May] YHWH make
[his face] shine ...
[Bottom line(s) broken.]
Biblical parallels
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Compare lines 3–6 to:

Exodus 20:6 – showing mercy to thousands of them that love Me and keep My commandments
Deuteronomy 5:10 – showing mercy to thousands of them that love Me and keep My commandments
Deuteronomy 7:9 – keeping covenant and mercy with them that love Him and keep His commandments to a thousand generations
Daniel 9:4 – keeping covenant and mercy to them that love Him, and to them that keep His commandments
Nehemiah 1:5 – keeping covenant and mercy for them that love Him and observe His commandments
The omission of "thousands" may have originally appeared on line 7 as in Deuteronomy 7:9.
referring explicitly states the Jews worship no god other than Yahweh is the **Book of Deuteronomy** in the Hebrew Bible. Specifically, Deuteronomy 6:4-5 says:

> "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength."

This passage, known as the Shema, is a central declaration of the monotheistic belief in Yahweh and emphasizes exclusive worship of Him.

>>17415753
this

Zoroastrianism is much younger than Abrahamic

>>17415692
>>17415695
The earliest references to Ahura Mazda in a pagan context come from the **Achaemenid Empire** (c. 550–330 BCE). Ahura Mazda was recognized as a pagan deity and was invoked in various royal inscriptions, such as the **Behistun Inscription** by Darius the Great. During this period, Ahura Mazda was worshipped alongside other deities like Mithra and Anahita.

>we pagans wuz monotheistic n shieeet

Zoroastrianiger spergs the worst perpetrators of fraudulent revisionism

>>17415867
>The earliest references to Ahura Mazda in a pagan context come from the **Achaemenid Empire** (c. 550–330 BCE
>There is no direct evidence of Zoroastrianism existing before the Sassanian Empire (224-651 CE
>earliest reference to Ahura Mazda in a dualistic Zoroastrian context is circa 600 CE around the beginning of Islam

>>17413321
Zurvanism is kinda monotheistic.

>>17415912
**Zurvanism** is a branch of Zoroastrianism that emphasizes the deity **Zurvan** as the god of infinite time and space. In Zurvanism, Zurvan is seen as the father of both Ahura Mazda (the god of good) and Angra Mainyu (the god of evil), reflecting a dualistic worldview rather than a strictly monotheistic one.

Zurvanism was influential in ancient Persia, especially during the Sassanian Empire, but it differs from mainstream Zoroastrianism, which focuses on Ahura Mazda as the Zeus deity.

>>17415924
thanks chatgpt

>>17415928
Sure! Here's a comparison of deities from Zurvanism, Hinduism, and Greek mythology, reformatted for better readability:

Zurvanism: Zurvan
Hinduism: Brahma
Greek Mythology: Chronos

Zurvanism: Ahura Mazda
Hinduism: Vishnu
Greek Mythology: Zeus

Zurvanism: Angra Mainyu
Hinduism: Shiva
Greek Mythology: Hades

Zurvanism: Mithra
Hinduism: Ganesha
Greek Mythology: Hermes

Zurvanism: Asha Vahishta
Hinduism: Saraswati
Greek Mythology: Athena

Zurvanism: Spenta Mainyu
Hinduism: Lakshmi
Greek Mythology: Hera

This comparison highlights some analogous roles and characteristics among the different mythologies and religious traditions.

>>17415829
The first passage pre biblical lines does not indicate monotheism. The fact it is reused in the bible does not prove it was monotheistic. It says Yawheh is a great god but not that he is the only god. That is like saying Sassanidd monotheistic zoroastrianism proves Achaemenid Zoroastrianism was monotheistic.

>>17415829
>>17416460
> I made this high place for Kemosh in Qerihoh.
>(a) high pl(ace of salv)ation because he saved me from all predators
>and because he made me triumph over all my enemies.

>>17411371
actually isn't it pretty weird none but the jews and persians themselves bothered to write about their unique monotheism till centuries after the event? and yawhists say salvation depends upon it so the jews should have been bothering everyone else about it.

>>17415829
>>17416460
cope retard

it is 7th century BCE biblical passage of the book of numbers and Deuteronomy and is from a biblical scroll from the Jewish kingdom

the same exact passages that exist in the book of numbers and Deuteronomy of the bible

>>17416954
how does the scroll indicate monotheism?

>>17411371
god sent prophets before and after abraham and zarathustra
zarathustra was one of them and he bore the same message as the sons of abraham , simple as
no need to say "FIRST"

>>17413321
>>17413329
>Zoro is dualism not monotheism
not true they worshipped only ahura mazda
angra was an opposing force but he wasnt worshipped
thus monotheism

>>17417331
weird how gods prophets keep spaming far heresies worse than normal pagan religions

>>17417335
think when Yawhists say monotheist they mean their own specific brand of Yawhism. Christians also have the evil force (satan) who is only removed from power after the final battle but it is not dualism because it's all according to the plan

>>17417352
monotheism is the worship of a single deity
although idk if angra will be removed from power after their apocalypse its been a while since i read about this

>>17417357
the point is that they define the term as fitting exactly what their theology describes. The struggle between christ and satan isn't monotheism instead of dualism because it fits an objective definition but because Christians want it to be that way.

>>17417335
>>17417352
>>17417357
polytheism is the belief in the existence of many gods, ie

Zoroastrian dualism (ahuramazda, angra mainyu, mithra, zurvan etc) same as Hinduism and greek paganism

Christianity trinity gods

Hinduism brahma supreme and many other gods

Greekism Zeus supreme and many other gods

>>17417335
>>17417083
Zoroastrianism is as monotheistic as Hinduism and greek zeusist paganism

LMAO

>>17417427
Jews got Chemos and other gods of the old testament

>>17417421
yeah but who cares about how they percieve it
monotheism is simply the worship of one deity that's the dictionary definition of it
Zoroastrians worship one god , ahura mazda
it is thus monotheism
>>17417427
not just belief of existence , a god is defined by his worship , all those you cited are worshiped

>>17417447
people should know that before they put serious effort into arguing about it with someone like the guy above who think the that records of worship of Yawheh proves that worship was monotheistic.

>>17417447
>>17417467
>>17417427
>>17417357

*Monotheism** is the belief that only one god exists, rather than just the worship of one deity. This distinction is important because it emphasizes the exclusive nature of the belief in the existence of a single, all-encompassing divine being.

>>17417467
>>17417447
>>17417421
>>17417357
The term you're looking for is **henotheism**. Henotheism is the belief in and worship of a single god while acknowledging the existence of other gods. Unlike monotheism, which asserts the existence of only one god, henotheism accepts that multiple gods exist but focuses worship on one deity.

Would you like to explore more about different pagan Zoroastrian beliefs?

>>17418125
>Henotheism is the belief in and worship of a single god while acknowledging the existence of other gods.
This doesn't describe Zoroastrianism, as Zoroastrians worship multiple Gods and Goddesses.

>>17418131
Wait what? I thought that they only worshiped Ahura Mazda?

>>17418132
In addition to Ahura Mazda they also worship the Amesha Spentas, various ancestors, various other lesser Gods, including Mithra who is a repentent "fallen God" (tl;dr Ahura Mazda created a class of neutral deities that were corrupted by Angra Manyu; Mithras returned to the side of good). All of these are "Yazatas", which is a class of beings defined as "beings worthy of worship".

>>17418138
So do they make something like Catholicism's latria vs dullia distinction?

>>17418143
No. There's just "the Yazatas", which includes a large number of entities, and "stuff that's not a Yazata".

The idea of Zoroastrianism being monotheistic was one that was invented by European sympathizers during the British Raj as one of the things that the Muslims asked of the British, in return for loyalty to the British Empire, was to be allowed to genocide the Zoroastrians on the grounds that Christians and Muslims worship the same deity while Zoroastrians are polytheists worshiping demons. The "Zoroastrianism is monotheistic" proponents argued that Ahura Mazda was the same entity as the Yahweh worshiped by Abrahamics.

>>17418143
Zoroastrianism is essentially greek paganism and Hinduism

see

>>17415936

>>17418148
that's also why many Hindus claim to be monotheists and worship brahma