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Why don't muslims care that their founder raped a child?

Other religions don't have that problem
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Jewish people have a genital mutilator for a founder
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>>17413481
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/articles/2012/10/greater-benefits-of-infant-circumcision
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>>17413508
shalom
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Before you start a thread criticizing muslims, denounce the talmud. Before you start a thread criticizing jews, denounce muhammad. Just write at the bottom "I denounce the Talmud".
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>>17413544
Why
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>>17413555
As a litmus test obviously you fucking retard.
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>>17413544
All abrahamic religions have been a disaster for the human race. Mudslimes, kikes and christards combined. Fuck *braham, fuck m*hammad, fuck jes*s. You're all dicksucking death cults.
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>>17413558
No need
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>>17413480
Because we have an objective morality.
Muhhamed had no sin. He is messenger of Allah.
All is forgiven and was no big deal in the first place.
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>>17413544
Why do Muslims even hate Jews when Islam is literally just Judaism for Arabs, with even more pointless rules?
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>>17413930
>even more
lmao no. Judaism makes Islam look moderate.
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>>17413612
Shalom
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>>17413697
raping a child is objectively moral?
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>>17414112
It isn't a rape, but allah guided sexual relation. Rape is only bad when it isn't approved by allmighty.
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>>17413480
>Other religions don't have that problem
Isaac creampied rebecca when she was 3
Rabbi Yeshua kiddle fiddled little boys
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>>17413481
>genital mutilator
This is a deception given to the rapists.
Shed your circumference and emerge.
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>>17413480
Mary was 13 years old when God impregnated her with Jesus
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>>17413480
There's a reason Christians erased 30yrs of Jesus' life.
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>>17413930
Muslims hate everybody
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>>17414134
>allmighty
The all mighty does not look out for itself—for it has no need—but it looks out for that of which it is the master.
The all mighty does hold rule, and is stronger than that of which they are the master, bit the all mighty does not consider, or enjoy the advantage of its might, and everything it does is for the weaker.
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>>17413480
Because they commit child rape themselves. Look at Rotherham they were all in on it. And yet for some reason people expect me to support Palestine. I don't. I support the recolonisation of it by Britain, the expulsion of the so called inhabitants, and the settlement of the Holy Land by Anglo Saxons.
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>>17414204
Meds. Now.
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>>17413480
every muslim i've ever talked to said that's a bullshit hadith that's fake, some of them say it's a pruseful lie to make islam look bad

now you can criticise islam for relying on hadith so much when theyre so bullshit but that's not really exclusive to islam anymore
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muslims and christians can live together in peace for some reason unless jews are involved

jews can almost never live in peace with anyone
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>>17413480
Plenty of Muslims don't believe that Aisha was a child. Historians don't accept hadith as reliable sources either. The ones who defend this narrative as absolute truth are a minority of annoying dawah fags. Please stop making these vapid threads every single day. Thanks and have a good day!
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>>17413480
>why don't people care that people in the past were morally abhorrent?
True. That's why we should take down statues of Europeans who sold slaves and genocided people. Wouldn't you agree?
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>>17414545
There is no minimum marriage age defined in traditional Islamic law
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>>17413609
>abrahamic religions have been a disaster
What makes you say this
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>>17414216
Thank you chatGPT
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>>17414892
Jewish law permits to marry as young as the age of 12. There was no age of consent for a majority of premodern societies.

Things like this should be left upto culture and necessity.
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Probably because Arabs do not care about Western values like
>The age of consent

If a Muslim country even has one, it’s to get groups like the UN/NATO off their ass about it. They really don’t care about that shit at all.

I know an immigrant family from Afghanistan. They sent their sons back to the homeland to find wives. The one son came back with an “18 year old woman.” It’s definitely secretly his cousin, and she was definitely not a day older than 15 when she got here. Might have been even younger. But you can’t prove that shit. I doubt she even has a birth certificate. She might not even know her own true age.

Muslims do not care about Western culture. They could live in the USA for 50 years and never assimilate. Their kids assimilate at least though, because Western education usually beats the retard Arab out of them.
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>>17413481
So do Muslims retard
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>>17414134
>allah guided sexual relation

proof?
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>>17414171
chapter and verse?

>>17414545
>>17414476
it's from the sahih al buhari (authentic hadiths)
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>>17415992
It's written in the Gospel of James that Mary was around 12-14 years old when she was pregnant with Jesus
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>>17416006
>Gospel of James

Doesn't exist
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>>17416167
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm
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>>17416202
>the non-admittance of these works into the Canon of the Sacred Books casts a strong suspicion upon their contents

Thanks for proving my point
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>>17414915
The philosophy of altruism, the view that man is only as good as his sacrifice to others has been the single most oppressive ideas in human history. Creating value means nothing if you try to sell that value to better your own life as well, it only matters for moral credit to altruists if you give it away for nothing and suffer and die for your ideals. The glorification of suffering and death is subtle but it's absolutely there. The christian superhero is jesus who died a horrific agonizing death for sins that he did not commit. This altruism, or "otherism" is so prevalent that anyone thinking win-win is considered selfish and evil, that is why we fucking despise businessmen, even ones like Bill Gates who literally made it possible for millions of wheelchair bound people to get a job and have a more fulfilling life. Meanwhile we venerate Mother Therese who did nothing but bless a lot of sick people while doing nothing to actually cure them.
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>>17414892
Traditional Islamic law aka whatever the heck Arab "scholars" said. Not what Muhammad said. If anything Quran links marriage age to maturity.
>>17415992
Sahih my ass, no hadith can ever be proven.
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>>17416483
cont; The same underlying altruism of abrahamic religions is seen in political systems like communism. The state/church must keep every single person from committing selfishness. It is extremely revealing of an inherent hatred of man, and you don't act in the best interest of that which you hate. If you think man is inherently good, you don't need to chain him to all these rules in the bible or the communist state, the fact force has to be used to centrally plan (or a mystical threat of hell in the christian lore) says everything.
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>>17416489
>no hadith can ever be proven.

So like the quran?
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>>17413544
Based. Sand-wars on this board always seemed particularly brown to me.
No juden no Islam no thanks!
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>>17414858
>True. That's why we should take down statues of Europeans who sold slaves and genocided people. Wouldn't you agree?
(1) So you think we should pull down all statues of anyone around the world from before 1800 because everyone at some point owned slaves and fought wars with other people?
Are you going to pull down Native American monuments because they owned slaves anon?
(2) Americans don't worship statues of old American leaders as god's
>>17414476
>every muslim i've ever talked to said that's a bullshit hadith that's fake, some of them say it's a pruseful lie to make islam look bad
You're lying with taqiyya Muslim anon. It's universally accepted by Sunni Muslims.
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>>17416536
>So you think we should pull down all statues of anyone around the world from before 1800 because everyone at some point owned slaves and fought wars with other people?
>Are you going to pull down Native American monuments because they owned slaves anon?
Yes to both. We are judging these individuals by modern standards. It wasn't an issue in any culture to marry young girls in the iron age.
>(2) Americans don't worship statues of old American leaders as god's
American leaders dis deify themselves. Either way, it's irrelevant. They will still fight tooth and nail to defend those figures from leftists who erroneously follow the Whig view history and demand they be denounced. If people who raped nigger slaves and tortured natives are exempt from the mob, then so is a sandnigger from the 8th century.

To be clear, I denounce the Koran and spit on the prophet (piss be upon him). I'm just tired of these dogmatic subhumans adopting the same leftist stances they screech about. Fucking rats.
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>>17415992
>authentic hadiths
There's no such thing as an authentic hadith. Bukhari's methodology wasn't reliable enough to distinguish between what was actually said 200 years before he published his collection and shit that was fabricated/embellished/distorted in the meantime.
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>>17416547
>Yes to both.
Which is why you only said Europeans?
>>17416547
>It wasn't an issue in any culture to marry young girls in the iron age.
It was actually. The Aisha/Muhammad relationship is pedophilia by 1500s standards and by Bronze age standards. But who was going to tell him no? He was Muhammad!
>>17416547
>American leaders dis deify themselves.
George Washington isn't an apostle in the bible anon...
However Muhammad is the messenger of Allah in the Koran and Hadiths.
>>17416547
>To be clear, I denounce the Koran and spit on the prophet (piss be upon him)
No you don't. Stfu anon.
>>17416547
>I'm just tired of these dogmatic subhumans adopting the same leftist stances they screech about. Fucking rats.
Muhammad having sex with Aisha when she was 9 and he 50+ is WHAT SUNNI MUSLIMS BELIEVE. LEFTISTS DON'T BELIEVE THAT...
YOU'RE the SUBHUMAN.
Muslim countries have more cousin marriage than any other people. Once again that's what YOU do. That's YOU.
YOU are MUSLIM.
Stop using Taqiyya (lying to infidels).
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>>17416560
>There's no such thing as an authentic hadith.
Then why do Muslims follow hundreds of Hadiths?
Oh, you're lying again Muslim anon.
You're lying again.
This is the Muslim equivalent of Jews claiming that the Talmud is just ignored in Judaism.
Get fucked Muslim anon.
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>>17416619
What in the world makes you think I'm a Muslim? I literally just denounced the Hadith corpus as being wholly unreliable - you get executed in countries like Saudi Arabia for saying shit like that. The Muslim orthodoxy may take it seriously but no secular historian would look at the Hadith as being a remotely reliable source on its own.
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>>17416560
So all the sunni are going to hell?
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>>17416664
>What in the world makes you think I'm a Muslim
Lying about your own religion to defend it you stupid retard lol.
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>>17416774
If I were a Muslim, how would I be defending my religious tradition by saying that 90% of it is errant nonsense? You're not making any sense.
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>>17416794
YOU AREN'T SAYING THAT MUSLIM ANON.
YOU SAID -
>>17414476
>every muslim i've ever talked to said that's a bullshit hadith that's fake
WHICH IS A LIE.
AISHA IS UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED BY SUNNI MUSLIMS TO HAVE BEEN 9 WHEN SHE HAD SEX WITH 56 YEAR OLD MUHAMMAD.
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>>17416845
That wasn't me
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>>17416868
IT WAS YOU.
SO WAS THIS
>>17416547
>Yes to both. We are judging these individuals by modern standards. It wasn't an issue in any culture to marry young girls in the iron age.
SO YOU'RE A MUSLIM DEFENDING THE PEDOPHILIA OF YOUR PROPHET BY PRETENDING EVERYONE WAS A PEDOPHILE BACK THEN WHICH SIMPLY ISN'T TRUE.

YOU ARE A MUSLIM.
STFU PLEASE.
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>>17416913
lolno
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>>17416924
LOL, YOU'RE A MUSLIM ANON.
YOU'RE A FUCKING MUSLIM.
GO AWAY PLEASE.
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>>17416913
Every man who lived prior to the 1900s would be branded a predator or pedophile by today's standards. What's more likely; that every man in the past was mentally ill, or that you're wrong?

Either way, >>17416576 didn't actually refute a word I said. I guess rape and murder is only le good when your race/culture/religion does it.
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>>17416913
>We should condemn bad people from the past
Including bad people of your in-group from the past?
>NO REEEEEE MUSLIM MUSLIM MUSLIM
another satisfied customer
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>>17416935
>Every man who lived prior to the 1900s would be branded a predator or pedophile
No, YOU'RE a historically illiterate pedophile -

"In 1900, as the lower chart shows, the typical young groom was almost twenty-six and his bride was four years younger."
https://www.pbs.org/fmc/book/4family1.htm#:~:text=In%201900%2C%20as%20the%20lower,between%20bride%20and%20groom%20diminished.

>>17416972
LOL, YOU WORSHIP AN ARAB PEDOPHILE!!!
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>>17417023
>YOU HAVE TO BE MUSLIM OR I DONT HAVE AN ARGUMENT REEE
Sorry, but the racist colonizer statue toppling will continue.
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>>17417030
YOU LITERALLY DEFENDED YOUR PROPHETS PEDOPHILIA IDIOT. YOU ARE MUSLIM.
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>YOU LITERALLY DEFENDED YOUR PROPH-ACK
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>>17417059
LOL, YOU'RE LITERALLY AN ISLAMIC PEDOPHILE!!!
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>>17416483
>defending (((businessmen)))
Shalom.
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Is this what going insane feels like?
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>>17413480
didnt happen , unironically a myth perpetrated by actual pedos , retards and those who want to give it a bad image
https://irfi.org/articles/articles_151_200/ayesha_age_the_myth_of__a_prover.htm
if it was taht simple believe me itd have many less converts
also it literally contradicts the quran , the quran says that women are available to marry(so marry not even consume) after they reach their sexual puberty
what kind of women reaches puberty at six

>>17414134
>>17413697
>>17416547
stop being a retard and claiming theres nothing wrong with the prophet fucking a child because muh ancient morals its not only untrue and it also goes againts his teachings
>>17415992
>sahih al buhari (authentic hadiths)
retard just because he wrote it doesnt mean its true especially when it contradicts the quran
>>17416845
>AISHA IS UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED BY SUNNI MUSLIMS TO HAVE BEEN 9 WHEN SHE HAD SEX WITH 56 YEAR OLD MUHAMMAD.
no it isnt , stop interacting with paki illiterate peasants
at school i was taught that she was between 16 and 14 only these days do i see this shit
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and besides , even his worst contemporary enemies did not accuse him of pedophilia
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>>17417244
>no it isnt
YES IT IS. YOU ARE LYING.
ALL SUNNIS, 90% OF MUSLIMS BELIEVE THAT 9 YEAR OLD AISHA HAD SEX WITH 56 YEAR OLD MUHAMMAD.
YOU ARE A PSYCHOPATH
YOU ARE EVIL
YOU ARE MUSLIM
TAQIYYA WILL NOT SAVE YOUR INBRED ASS.
YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALIVE
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>>17417260
1. m not shia (and taqiyya isnt even that)
2.i know my country better than you it isnt some nigger that had max 2 online interactions with some salafists online on 4chaps thats going to tell me what my countrymen believe or dont
3. take your meds you fucking schizo stop screaming
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>>17417270
muhammad was a schizo
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do people in this site really believe that if islam was so obviously evil it wouldve reached that much people of different backgrounds ?

>inb4 muh forced conversions
read a book
>>17417275
the difference between a schizo and a prophet is that the prophet didnt get shattered by the voices and understood them
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>>17417115
Your life is objectively better because business men exist, even if you don't actually do business with them.
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>>17416560
Hey, if you take away the precious hadith away from these people what will they use to ridicule Islam? That's why it's imperative for them to defend the clownery which is called hadith literature.
>>17417244
The voice of reason
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>>17417284
>do people in this site really believe that if islam was so obviously evil it wouldve reached that much people of different backgrounds ?
WAR and forced conversion you fucking moron.
Why are there more Sunnis than Shias?
Oh, the Sunnis killed and dominated over the Shia.
Holy shit, you're so amazingly stupid.
>>17417284
>the difference between a schizo and a prophet is that the prophet didnt get shattered by the voices and understood them
YES, YOUR PROPHET FUCKED CHILDREN WHICH IS HOW MUSLIMS KNEW HE WAS THE REAL PROOPHET...
IN THE ISLAMIC MIND ONLY A TRUE BELIEVER OF ALLAH HAS SEX WITH CHILDREN.
>m not shia (and taqiyya isnt even that)
I'VE LITERALLY CALLED YOU SUNNI A BILLION FUCKING TIMES YOU MORON.
YES, SUNNIS DO USE TAQIYYA.
>know my country better than you
YOUR WHOLE RELIGION LITERALLY REVOLVES AROUND LYING TO INFIDELS. BY DEFINITION YOU ARE GOING TO LIE TO ME BECAUSE YOU ARE SUNNI AND I AM AN INFIDEL.
>take your meds you fucking schizo stop screaming
YOU'RE A SUICIDE BOMBER IN A TRUCK OF PEACE REMEMBER?
YOU NEED TO MOLEST BOYS IN BACHA BAZI REMEMBER?
YOU NEED TO REPRESENT YOURSELVES IN WOMEN'S SPORTS WITH CROSSDRESSING MEN ( Imane Khelif ) REMEMBER?
>>17417308
>Your life is objectively better because business men exist, even if you don't actually do business with them.
Wrong. Nobody is self employed anymore. Everyone's lives are now controlled by governments via corporations. You're a moron.
>>17417311
LOL, ISLMATARD IS A SAMEFAGGING MORON. YOU'RE SAMEFAGGING SUNNI ANON.
THERE'S A BILLION FUCKING HADITHS THAT ARE INSANE.
YOU NEED TO THROW OUT YOUR WHOLE RELIGION. IT'S ALL SHIT AND YOU KNOW IT.
I'VE LITERALLY READ MORE ABOUT YOUR STUPID RELIGION THAN YOU HAVE.
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>>17413544
How about this faggot? I denounce the talmud, torah, quran, bible, and all abrahamic slops. Except the druze, the druze are alright
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>>17417361
>WAR and forced conversion you fucking moron.
you dumb retard read a book
berbers had mass conversions not because they were all conquered but because they truly believed in it and even after gaining their independence from the arabs they retained their faiths
same goes for western africa , turkics , and indonesians
in fact all of those dont have their pre islamic religions (save for some islands in asean) but the middle east (the birthplace of the arabs ) still does
if we were that much of an evil nation wouldnt we force them to convert ?
>I'VE LITERALLY CALLED YOU SUNNI A BILLION FUCKING TIMES YOU MORON.
i just joined this thread schizo
>YES, SUNNIS DO USE TAQIYYA.
no ? lmao
the rest of that is extremely stupid blabber that m not even going to answer to because youre just too much of a plebeian to me
and like all plebeians you deeply fear and hate with the bottom of your heart what you do not understand
this would be a much more interesting discussion had you been up to the standard
sincerely , read some books inform yourself some more on islam (and by that imean not from a youtube video of some reactionnary boomer ) , and then come back to me
and that time without screaming and by taking your calmants
>Imane Khelif
shes an actual woman though xD her birth certificate tells she is a female
shes just very ugly
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>>17417387
>you dumb retard read a book
Lol...
The Muslim community in Muhammad's lifetime started 95 separate wars/skrimishes in order to spread the word of Allah.
NINETY FIVE...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad
Wow! what's the Rashidun Caliphate, Umayyad Caliphate and Abbasid Caliphates?
Oh right, endless war, expansion and forced conversion or mass rape/execution.
YOU ARE EVIL.
YOU ARE INBRED.
YOU ARE UGLY.
YOU ARE STUPID.
>i just joined this thread schizo
Oh wow! Another lie.
>>17417387
>no ? lmao
YES! LMAO
YOU'RE USING TAQIYYA RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK, YOU'RE PROVING ME RIGHT WITH YOUR OWN IDIOCY.
>>17417387
>>Imane Khelif
>shes an actual woman though xD her birth certificate tells she is a female
>shes just very ugly
HAHA HE'S XY YOU MORON. YOU'RE A HOMOSEXUAL THAT LOVES MEN. YOU'RE A TRANSSEXUAL LOVER. YOU'RE A PEDOPHILE. YOU'RE SUNNI MUSLIM.
https://www.outkick.com/sports/boxer-imane-khelif-xy-chromosomes-biological-male-medical-report
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>>17413481
>average 2025 /his/ poster
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>>17416006
retard
t. g*d denying, d*miurge killer atheist
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>>17417443
>read a book about the conversions
>thinks the first wars were about conversion and not survival
>wikipedia article
nah youre actually too dumb and schizophrenic for me i cant really talk with an actual plebeian like you
you actually behave like a child " youre eviiiiil ;c" you hate and fear what you do not understand as i said
and why are you arguing with me then if you think all that i tell is a lie ?
moron
last (You) youll get from me schizo
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>>17414453
Britain had to leave Palestine last time because they got their ass handed to them by the Haganah, Irgun and Lehi, you are retarded if you think it would go different if they tried again.
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>>17417473
YOUR PERSONAL OPINION IS NOT A HISTORICAL SOURCE OR DOCUMENT PEDO MUHAMMAD.
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>>17413544
it's all true.
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>>17416167
>>17417466
Mary was born on 18 BC, Jesus was born on 6-4 BC (our dating system is wrong because the monk who created it got Jesus's birthday wrong by 4 years but the system was already too entrenched by the time people figured it out)
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>>17418253
chapter and verse ?
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>>17414915
Observing reality
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>>17418253
Nobody knows when they were born or if they even existed at all historically you idiot.
And Christianity the religion literally sets the birth date of Jesus as 0 AD.
But no exact date is given in the bible.
That's it.
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>>17413480
Muhammad didn't exist.
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Mother Mary was 16. God is a hebelover
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>>17418596
>And Christianity the religion literally sets the birth date of Jesus as 0 AD.
It does not, Dionysius Exiguus invented the Anno Domini dating system by working backwards from his time. Most scholars believe that he was off by a couple years. Nobody used the Anno Domini system in Jesus's time and it wasn't commonly adopted until the 800s.
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>>17413942
mind = broken



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