Should France have been treated as an Axis member, like they were de facto?
>>17414606Yes. We should have annexed them. They should all speak english by now, and I could retire in a lovely stone house on the Côte d'Azur drinking white wine.
>>17414606yes, because frenchmen are duplicitous and hypocritical. never trust the french.
>>17414606France lost ww2 two times
It's actually insane how many Frenchmen served in the SS and how many collaborated with the Germans and yet France is still seen as a victim of the axis. They changed sides harder than Italy did.
>>17415889And Germany was extremely protective of French interests during the war for this reason, not even allowing Italy to annex any of what they wanted from them. After an Axis victory situation France would be a much closer German partner than Italy
>>17414606>let's create a state which Germany and France can hate together
>>17414606French and Germans are the same people with different cultures.
>>17414606Interesting but why not expand Flanders as well?
I'm from Dunkirk and my grandfather was made prisoner early in the warafter a while as Germany was missing almost all of its workforce he was send to a farm in the German countryside to help a lonely German widowthey kept sending postcards to each other long after the end of the warmake of that information what you will
>>17414606>let stalin turn all of eastern europe into dictatorships? why not>return the national integrity of our ally France? don't think sogenuinely what was his problem?>>17416607may you tell us what we should make of it? None in academia has treated NSDAP Germany as a monolith for decades by now. fraternization between german women and foreign workers was a pretty big concern with government officials. .
>>17415889Charles de Gaule (pbuh) was a fucking genius
>>17416119to help the dutch. Who in turn with West-Germany will help dominate Europe with the Anglo-Americans
>Giving that much territory to failed state Wallonia>shiggy diggy
>>17416643indeed it's just French people but somehow lazier
>>17414697you an't spell french without fren tho
>>17415889yet somehow France still hosts the largest postwar Jew populationmakes you think
>>17414606>WALLonia for the border!>Flanders!
Vichy France was the legal continuation of the pre-war goverment by all accounts
i like it. it's like a big wall to prevent franco-german chimpouts. although they weren't gonna chimpout after that anyway but still.>>17416838true in theory but in practice it didnt have a lot of legitimacy. international recognition yes but otherwise no.
Roosevelt was anti-France anyway. He hated it from the deepest of its guts so no matter the actual role of France in collaboration or resistance, he would have take any occasion to tear it apart by sheer disgust. Roosevelt was also advised by Jean Monnet, a notorious anti-France french that ended up creating the EU in another to dissolve France sovereignity and ultimatly succeeded where Roosevelt failed because US because public opinion liked De Gaulle, Churchil and him were buddy, same with Eisenhower and french managed to cross the Rhine and de facto occupy a piece of Germany.
>>17416607>I'm from Dunkirkyou must be whiter than other frenchmen
>>17417063yeah but luckily I managed to get some cool hapa daughters to counterbalance that fact
>>17415889>>17415901Germany itself should’ve side with France claim during fashoda incident and Russia continental system during Boer wars…
>>17417038>Roosevelt was anti-France anyway.Roosevelt was a descendant of Walloon settlers (Delano from NY), that's why he was a walloon irredentist, albeit subconsciously.
>>17416706mostly because of the jews who left algeria in 1960
>>17417592>https://austinderkowskiholocaustproject.weebly.com/maps.html>map shows the approximate number of Jews in the countries shown before the Holocaust>France 225000>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_France>By 1951, France's Jewish population totalled around 250,000.[18] Between 1956 and 1967, about 235,000 Sephardi Jews from Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco and Egypt emigrated to France.?
>>17414606No, GREATER BVRGVNDY should've been restored.
>>17415901>And Germany was extremely protective of French interests during the war for this reason, not even allowing Italy to annex any of what they wanted from them. After an Axis victory situation France would be a much closer German partner than ItalyIdiot take, Germany told Italy to fuck off as A) they tried to snake in at the last second for a grab and B) they were wary about facing off against each other in the future, it hadn't been that long before that Mussolini was trying to prevent them taking Austria and even moved troops to the border. Germany and France were certainly not close which is why they came down on Vichy the second that the Torch landings exposed the south.
>>17415889Trueanon talked about this. How the french resistance is basically used to whitewash the fact the majority of French supported Hitler and the Nazis.
>>17419112>the majority of French supported Hitler and the Nazismore like the majority of French were fed up with senseless wars killing them in droves and the Germans in France were mostly polite and well behaved with the general population and more than happy to not be on the eastern front
