>we could've fought jewish capitalism together dolph...
Why do Russoids feel a deep sense regret about their major W?
>>17414704That’s literally what he was trying to do before Hitler betrayed him. A lot of hitlers failures can be attributed to being too trustful of the Anglos and too suspicious of the Soviets.
>>17414714He seemed to be unaware of the Anglo policy of being against any dominant continental power.His thoughts on UK seemed to be based on wishful thinking
>>17414713what book is this?
>>17414738also ribbentrops abysmal work as british ambassador that made hitler believe things were very different from what was really going on
>>17414750Ha штypм бyдyщeгo (Cпeцнaз 'пoпaдaнцeв) by Cepгeй Apтюхин Translates to To Storm the Future - Spetsnaz of 'Time-Travelers'
>>17414953The russians and germans travel into time to defeat the space jews?
>>17414714I mean after the war the Soviets basically genocided the Eastern half of Germany while the Anglos helped rebuild the Western half into an economic power. Hitler wasn't wrong about which of his adversaries was far more dangerous
>>17415038>genocidedYour women enjoyed it, hans
>>17415038>soviets genocided germans because of war hitler started>so hitler was right to start a war with them were his intended goal was to genocide the slavs
>>17415142If he genocided them first then obviously they wouldn't have been able to genocide Germans. So yes it makes sense
>>17414704Why did Stalin trusted Hitler, was he retarded?
>>17414704The USSR was pretty hostile to Nazi Germany, it just found itself getting snubbed by Britain and France, who it was trying to align with so they opted for Germany. Stalin fired Maxim Litvinov, who was the pro-western foreign minister and also Jewish and replaced him with Molotov, who was more pro-German and also not Jewish, therefore more palatable for building relations with Germany.
>>17414704He was redpilled in British jewry but by the time he realized they were after him in particular the war was underway.>>17414713>major W>turned into ZOGbot shocktroops??>>17414738>Anglo policy of being against any dominant continental powerand who decides what a continental power is? You? Germany wasnt a continental power they were weaker than France, they were weaker than France in 1914 and Germany in 1939, let alone 1936, was weaker than France.The UK wasnt fighting Germany to prevent some continental power shift, they were fighting Germany because their jewish masters samuel untermeyer and henry strakosh had paid their political leadership to go to war with Germany.
>>17415142>were his intended goal was to genocide the slavsThis was never their plan, if they actually wanted to genocide slavs theyd have killed 100% of them just to end the partisanship. They didnt, they didnt even kill everyone and then enslave the remaining farmers and laborers.They literally just let the Slavs live.
>>17415757To be fair Hitler thought Poles and Ukrainians are basically Mongols inhabiting European land and wanted to deport them into Russia. At least historians speculate this was a long-term goal based on loose SS documents and the "vibes" from Hitler's speeches
>>17414713it's the classic kino trope of lamenting the death of your biggest rivalonly great nations could understand it
>>17414738>He seemed to be unaware of the Anglo policy of being against any dominant continental power.He literally addresses this countless times, in Mein Kampf he talks about France being the dominant power on the continent after WW1 being sufficient motivation for an alliance between Germany and England, he then later in his speeches frequently discusses the policy as something outdated and hypocritical during the war.Hitler's mistakes in regards to England were really the other way around - he expected them to act as they always had, when Britain at that time acted not only out of character, but against it's own interests. He expected the British to dig in at Dunkirk, pulling out like they did was essentially unprecedented in his mind, as an example.
>>17415795Maybe it has to do something with Hitler being a lying bastard so negotiation was out of the question, just saying.
>>17415142literally millions of people perished in the USSR before even a single bullet of the second world war was fired.
>>17415801It's strange that an actual retard like yourself actually expects me to jump on the circular reasoning merry-go-round with you.
>>17415784>To be fair Hitler thought Poles and Ukrainians are basically MongolsThey thought that Czechia and Ukraine certainly had mongolian elements that should be separated from the more nordic european population, yes, but they didn't think everyone in those nations was mongolian.
>>17415813No, they considered Czechs Aryan and wanted to add them to Greater Germany. It was the first step in rebuilding the HRE, or rather the second step after annexing Austria.Ukrainians at the time were seen as just another Soviet people like Russians, Kazakhs, etc. and happened to be occupying what Hitler saw as the most fertile ground in Europe. A minority of Ukrainians might have been considered Aryan but as a whole they were not
>>17414760with posts like these one is reminded just how stupid and gullible posters here are, and just how much discussion is a permanent circlejerk referencing bullshit everyone spreads to each other
>>17415825>No, they considered Czechs AryanLike I said, they saw a mongol element to the czech population that they wanted to remove, while adding the nordic population to the reich.They didn't think of arbitrary terms like "soviet peoples", they saw different nations with varying races within them. Ukraine had a history of tartars and turkic peoples living among them, so that's not surprising by any means.
>>17415849Speaking of mongols
>>17415850what's the president of interpol doing here?
>>17415850>pic*eyes bulge out of sockets*HOO WEE THOSE ARE SOME NICE CHILD-BIRTHING HIPSHUMINA HUMINAARE YOU SURE YOU'RE NOT A WOMAN, FRAULEIN HEYDRICH??
>>17415849The Soviets as a whole were always described as descendants of the Mongols. This was partly for propaganda purposes obviously but it does seem to reflect Hitler's genuine beliefs
>>17415873referring to the red army as being like the mongols doesn't reflect much more than british people calling germans "huns"it's absolutely ridiculous and not grounded in fact to claim they literally thought everyone east of the the Volga was some kind of asiatic
>>17415878Definitely everyone East of the Volga and many people to the West of it as well.Of course he recognized that the Russian Empire was the creation of the Aryan but believed that this upper class of German nobles had all been killed or exiled during the revolution
>>17415899>Of course he recognized that the Russian Empire was the creation of the Aryan but believed that this upper class of German nobles had all been killed or exiled during the revolutionthis doesn't contradict what i've said
>the jews are responsible for communism>the jews are responsible for capitalismDo you whiny faggots ever stop crying about jews?
>>17415946They also invented Christianity and Atheism. You were in a Jewish genjutsu before you were even born.
>>17415946That is just the basic premise of National Socialism though
>>17415878There are some who came to literally believe that Germans are Asiatic as a result of this propaganda, there's the Turkic Swedes spammer who was active a couple years back and right now there is a Med obsessed with pushing that angle on this board. So I would not doubt some low IQ Germans came to literally believe all Slavs are gooks, but it was not the NSDAP canon
>>17415946If we're being fair in our broad generalizations, the also killed communism, or at least, 1 particular jew did.
>>17416007You mean picrel got poisoned for being about to save the SU, right?
>>17416014I mean he nominated the gorb because they were vacation buds. While symptomatic of soviet corruption, he's still the one who actually did it.Nominating a golden retriever to run your nation and then having that nation implode is your fault, not the dogs. His jewishness was unrelated to his retardation thoughever.
>>17415795France had much lower population and industry than Germany, and her politics were a mess. By 1938, it was obvious that Germany was in fact the dominant power on the continent. Churchill speaks of this.
>>17416007Gorbachev wasn't a Jew though
>>17416112>>17416028>Nominating a golden retriever to run your nation and then having that nation implode is your fault, not the dogs.
Isn't it a bit weird that both Germany and Russia were led by foreign nationals who ended up killing millions of the native populations?What a coincidence
>>17416188Even better, the USSR was doing it more than 40 years earlier. It just never stopped. Gulag Archipelago. Insanity.
>>17416188The NSDAP did not directly kill large numbers of ethnic Germans
>>17416269>have them a direct order to open up another front and fight in it>not directlyLMFAO
>>17414738Anglos are spiritually children, in the culturally stunted way, not the mentally pure way. That's why they focus a lot on culturally engineering people and economically vassalizing them, that includes their own fellow Brits, Aussies, etc.
>>17416279Most German casualties on the eastern front were inflicted by Soviet troops
>>17416436>the guy who sent me to the nest grinder isnt to blame, the meat grinder is!Damn I wonder who decided to invade Russia.
>>17415784No he never thought those were racial mongolians and you can literally read the official state policy of the NSDAP which has Poles and Ukrainians as a kindred people to Germans.
>>17415801And yet he never lied about a single thing
>>17416007No they put the cap on communism because Communog Superstate fell into gentile hands and chased Troskyite Jews across Europe and America then began giving weapons to the Arabs.It’s not like jews saw the error of their ways. It was a golem story.
Capitalism>it's le joosCommunism>it's le joosOnly one of them leaves me free to pursue my own goals and have my own property, capitalism it is. You're gonna call me Moshe anyway.
>>17416436You and your enemies, kill each other? In a war? Say it ain't so.
>>17416456Bolsheviks we're led by Jews though and Marx had Jewish ancestry on his mom's side. Retarded Hitlerites just call capitalism "Jewish" because they're too retarded to manage their finances and thus live in trailer parks.
>>17416471National Socialists are still the wealthier subset of Whites though. People like Nick Fuentes Richard Spencer and David Duke are hardly impoverished trailer park dwellers.>>17416456I would rather run my own country than be subject to a foreign elite regardless of wealth.
>>17416504I prefer not having force used on me and I will not use it on anyone else, regardless of who's "winning".
>>17416514Force is going to be used on you regardless. Now it can manifest as friendly kindred people applying it lovingly to prevent injustice or it can be applied by foreign elites who want to use you as a human battery.Which do you prefer?
>>17416517>racial collectivismpass
>>17416517No one applies force lovingly, you are defending your abusers.
>>17416504>Glowniggers on the payroll get paid well
>>17416517I trust you will be sending your own sons to the frontline first in this hypothetical war, right faggot?
It feels weird to say this but I felt kinda bad for Stalin after reading how he reacted and just sorta mentally shut down for a few days after Operation Barbarossa. I dunno if it was because he genuinely trusted Hitler or just didn't expect him to start a war so soon but it was clear that Stalin was hoping their partnership would last longer and the German invasion was a personal shock to him.
>>17416534>your own sonsthe last time he felt the touch of a woman was when his mom hugged him on new years eve
>>17416001>schizo spammers on an imageboard make me think at least 1 guy in germany thought so, ergo i'm not entirely wrong!!!just stop man
>>17416109>by 1938so like 2 decades after, when britain had already stymied all attempts at keeping good relations between the two countries?When mein kampf was written, germany had an army of 100,000 men
>>17416518>racial collectivism bad, because it just is, ok?well in 2024 you are racially discriminated against for not being "diverse", so even if you're not "racist" that leaves the nondiverse as the only people you can trust>>17416529anon just logically explained that, with the use of force being inevitable, it is better placed in the hands of people who share your values, whether force is delivered by voters in a democracy or by a dictator>>17416534people's sons were conscripted by force to die in ww2, democracies can be just as repressive as dictatorships, if I were to state scientific facts about race and intelligence on my LI page I would almost certainly be fired within a week and blacklisted, possibly charged with "hate crime", just like in China if you criticize the CCP, every country has a power structure that will hurt you if you fail to conform>>17417530sure, everyone on your side is a gigachad millionaire with a supermodel gf and everyone on the other side is a loser nerd, have fun with that
>>17417700The Baldwin policy was pro-German, see the Naval Agreement and the British restraining of France in the Rhineland crisis, but it was also pro-peace. They didn't want any war, and after WW1 could you blame them? It was Germany's aggression which caused Chamberlain to reorient British policy to diplomatically restraining it, and then to considering war to stop it.
>>17417744This narrative doesn't hold up in the face of very basic facts
comunism was started by socialists which was started by bolsheviks of which 80%+ were jews
>>17417753Such as?
>>17417716Most people who share my skin color don't share my values.
>>17414713We defeated the wrong enemy.
>>17417696? There was nothing even being disputed there, it was just adding to the discussion
>>17417796Germany's ignored proposals as soon as 1933 and 1935, that would have prevented disarmament and assured peace in the west.
>>17417929Prevented rearmament**
>>17417744>Germany's aggression
>>17414713Russians don't hate the Nazis for being Nazis. They hated them for daring to invade their precious motherland. While the whole world denounced the Nuremberg Laws and Kristilnacht(however you spell it) the USSR didn't give a fuck.>The only possible solution which will preserve Germany's honor and Germany's interest is, we repeat, a war with Russia. t.Karl MarxHitler probably wouldn't have been Hitler without Marx since Marx was the first to ask about the Jewish Question but he listened to him a bit too much and also took his advice about Germany needing to invade Russia.But really what could he do? He was knee deep in MIFO Bills. None of the greatest leaders in history would leave their rear exposed. Even if the Soviets could join the Axis where the fuck could they expand except west? What the fuck could Germany do with mainland Britain being untouchable and the Americans preparing for war (there was a long domestic campaign against the Nazis since the early 30s conditioning the US pop to treat them as enemy #1) the USSR isn't gonna fight the US outside skirmishes in the bearing straight.And it's stupid cause did he not learn from WW1 that knocking out Russia didn't prevent their loss? It's just geographically impossible for Germany to be a conquerer nation. They should have waged and invisible war one more familiar of the Cold War. And the thing is they would have had such an edge in that regard because of rocketry which would inevitably have led to satellites and a space race. As well as the fuckton of Germans living in the US prime for radicalizing much like the Reds did to the US in the 60s. Or ISIS and Radical Muslims do today or Israeli Zionists do with American Jews.Hitlers biggest mistake was rearmament. The world was already moving into its proxy war/covert ops stage after ww1. Ww2 just accelerated the death of conventional war with the nuke
>>17414738Idk how you can be aware when it's right fucking there in the entire 19th century. Just look how much they flip flopped between support for who ever was against the major continental power
>>17417929The disarmament treaty of 1933 was scuppered because Germany left the agreement firstBritain agreed to Germany's proposals in 1935, and signed the anglo-german naval treaty. But this cannot be considered disarmament since it explicitly allowed the Germans to build a bigger navy than they already had, including ships more powerful than the other western European powers.
>>17414704Hitler was a Zionist and a Jewish puppet. Nothing about him was real. He served his NYC Rothschild masters very well. Did everything they wanted from him. Utter destruction of White Europe, win of Communism, creation of Israel, creation of Jewish martyr strategy of muh 6 gorillion, death of the healthiest young European men including Germans. How can anyone worship this subhuman traitor is beyond me. For the supposed history board you fags don't know anything beyond mainstream bullshit. https://odysee.com/@exposinghitler:b/The_Bolshevism_Zionism_Dialectic_Christopher_Jon_Bjerknes_720p_30fps:dAnd for any brownoid or ugly incel LARPing as a Nazi. Read up about Nero Decree. He basically called Germans weak subhumans unfit to live and thrive, said they all should be genocided by people of the East. This is you hero.
>>17419018There were no jews in Berlin actively funding Hitler during the war like there were in London actively funding Churchill during the war.
>>17419078Learn to read you absolute favella subhuman.
>>17416579Khrushchev made this up. Stalin was expecting a German invasion and was working non-stop the minute Germany invaded. Germany simply tried to feint it was going to attack UK instead but largely the Soviets and Stalin saw through it.https://youtu.be/U_39-5IYh8o
>>17416449Is that why they put Erich Koch in charge of Ukraine?
>>17419008>the first to ask about the Jewish QuestionThe jewish question has been around since the Edict of Expulsion when jews were jewing Britain with coin-clippingEven Frederick II knew about it and called jews a dangerous sect>MIFO billsThey were a large loan made from industrialists to the German government. Later, the industrialists voluntarily converted them to large denomination currency and wrote off the interest attached to them.The Reichsmark, equivalent to the US dollar, was used to pay for real labor and slowly replaced the predecessor, inflationary Weimar Mark. Whereas a dollar is supposed to be equivalent to a unit of gold, the Reichsmark was a unit of labor.I agree about Germany not being a conquerer nation, that's to say they can't go on too stretched out because they don't have a moat to protect themselves from invaders while America/UK can just chill and build their army without worrying about their neighbors. Hitler should have held back until the Brits and French were having some crisis though. Bismarck would have engineered some uprising in the colonies. He would also have managed to find a working solution with Russia. Bismarck knew when to chill. Hitler didn't and always went against the advice of more level headed people. He should have been patient enough to consolidate their gains before demanding more. Hitler's idealistic attitude and respect for British leaders cost him the war.
>>17415252He didn't. The Soviet expectation was always that Germany would attack. First, the USSR wanted German technology and engineering, so they played the same game China did with Western production, they allowed cooperation on engineering and production so they could learn from/or steal depending on your view German engineering and technology. It was this thinking why the Germans were so shocked by the advanced technology and engineering capability employed by the Soviets during Barbarossa, because the Germans basically viewed Russian engineering to be 19th century tier not realising the Soviets had learned rapidly to copy Germany from their collaboration.Another issue that is that the Soviets largely just wanted to fuck around with Germany and France and the UK alot. Soviets thought first that the Weimar wouldn't fall so pathetically, but when they did, they then tried to push Nazi Germany towards France and Britian, which was also a win for the USSR as Britian in particular was extremely active in anti-Soviet espionage.USSR did try engage France and the UK, but diplomatic talks failed due to England fearing that such action would spark WW2, and they were not able to get the Polish aboard, so they took the route I spoke about previously.Lead up to WW2 was largely a bunch of major risks by all powers, some paid off and some backfired spetacularly.Read Kotkin, Parenti, Losurdo.
