I don't think that a myth about a magic flying jew with magic spit is based on a real person. The alleged evidence for this hypothetical jew is weak and raises more doubts than it answers.
Technically no historical figures existed because they didn't have video cameras
No one exists except me
>>17416215For people such as us, what matters is His words, and the deep truth therein. That Truth saved me. You sound like you want an excuse to shrink off into the hellfire because "it's too hard."
>>17416270>IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S FAKE BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT ANYWAYSheep mentality.
>>17416290>>IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S FAKE BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT ANYWAYThis is what you are saying when you say Jesus doesn't exist.
>>17416270I just think a story about a Jew with magic spit isn't real. Just like you think Achilles, Hercules and Merlin the Magician aren't real.
>>17416331Brutal.
>>17416331Imagine your surprise when every word of the Bible turned out to be true.
>>17416341>this generation will not pass until these things happen>generation passes>nothingburger.jpgYou're better off dumping your fedora folder than trying to argue desu.
>>17416270>His wordswhose words?
>>17416356Who do you think? The red ones.
>>17416344Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.The generation that sees:1.Tribulation2.The sun darkened3.The moon giving no light4.Stars falling from heaven5.The powers of the heavens being shaken6.The sign of the Son of man appearing in heavenWhich results in:-All the tribes of the earth mourning-Seeing the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory-Angels being sent with the sound of a trumpet, gathering the elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the otherhas not occurred yet. When all that stuff happens, you can rest assured that Jesus is just about to come back. Those people who live through all those very abnormal events will be the same generation to see Jesus come back.
>>17416344>>17416380The whole point of that message is for people not to believe Jesus had come back just because someone told them and would probably be trying to deceive them. Here are the verses immediately preceding the ones posted above:Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
>>17416380He said it was going to occur in the lifetime of those standing before him. Didn't happen. Cope and seethe about til the end of your days! Hahahahaha!!!
>>17416381HERE COMES THE COPE
>>17416380>>17416381Bro what are you talking about. Literally none of the prophecies came true in their lifetimes. This is the worst hill to die on regarding Christianity.
>>17416386>>17416388>>17416395You guys can't read. What verse does he say to his apostles that all of that will happen in their lifetimes? I just spelled it out for you, every verse, and you still can't understand it. This is what I mean when I refer to people's minds not being renewed to be able to understand the scriptures. You are seriously foogy-brained and can't even comprehend simple English. All of you are wrong. And you can't read.
>>17416397>all I did was taken a direct and clear quote and pilpul my way around the interpretationEmbarrassing. Just dump the fedoras already.
>>17416404All you did was take one sentence out of a great deal of context and say it means something other than it does.
>>17416341Do you believe in magic spit jew?
>>17416597Oh my flying spaghetti monster! Oh my God is bowling in the sky! Oh my jew jew jew jew jew! Oh my magic flying rabbi! How about you stop being a vile and contemptible piece of garbage?
>>17416252The evidence for Jesus is an anonymous story about a flying rabbi with magic spit which people "assume" is based on a real person for dubious reasons.
>>17416341I'm glad the Bible is true. I guess it's time for me to go cut off some foreskins to purchase a princess.
>>17416608Jesus straight up heals a blind man with some dirt and spit in the Bible. It's not even interpretable in any other way. He literally rubs his eyes and magically cures him. Why are you too afraid to defend what is written in black and white on the pages of the Bible?
>>17416632I believe that. Now go to your bathroom and stick a bar of soap in your mouth. 5 minutes. I don't want any posts until then. You are filthy.
>>17416608So is that a yes then? You believe a jew in the first century had magic spit?
>>17416749I don't know the specific mechanics of how he or God through him did that. You are a scoffer for saying "magic spit" though. You should be bowing down, not scoffing at the Son of God. That little high you get from your insolence won't be there when your body wears out and your soul is left homeless because you refused to get in the car when there was a roaring lion outside.
>>17416763>can't bring himself to answer a yes or no question>starts rambling vague threats2000 years of Christian scholars led to this moment. Truly an astounding religion.
>>17416846I said I believe that three posts ago. I'm not using your snarky words.
>>17416846>>17416892But what if you believed that? What if people made fun of you? What if they didn't like you? That would be pretty scary to be socially ostracized by degenerate and shallow people! Might even hurt your feelings. Better just to believe what is commonly accepted and not make any waves. Then there can be peace for you in our time.
>>17416215Mark copied those miracles from popular stories of Vespasian healing the crippled in Alexandria in 70AD. For example, here what Suetonius says in De vita Caesarum:>Vespasian as yet lacked prestige and a certain divinity, so to speak, since he was an unexpected and still new-made emperor; but these also were given him.>A man of the people who was blind, and another who was lame, came to him together as he sat on the tribunal, begging for the help for their disorders which Serapis had promised in a dream; for the god declared that Vespasian would restore the eyes, if he would spit upon them, and give strength to the leg, if he would deign to touch it with his heel.>Though he had hardly any faith that this could possibly succeed, and therefore shrank even from making the attempt, he was at last prevailed upon by his friends and tried both things in public before a large crowd; and with success. At this same time, by the direction of certain soothsayers, some vases of antique workmanship were dug up in a consecrated spot at Tegea in Arcadia and on them was an image very like Vespasian. Was Vespasian not a real person?
>>17416215I've been reading mythicist arguments and I'm convinced now that Jesus is a mythical figure. Which ironically actually makes me like Christianity more
>>17416341We've already disproven genesis. Why would everything else be true?
>>17417250It makes vespasian less likely to be a real person
>>17417264You have disproven nothing. Why do you hate the truth? Actually, bot, I'm not even going to talk to you because you will ignore it and go on about something else. You only know power and will listen to no reproof. As a fool.
>>17417250This sounds like they stole Jesus stories. It was 40 years later.
>>17417277Mark, the first gospel, is proved to post-date the destruction of Jerusalem. Vespasian performed his miracles before large crowds of Alexandrian Jews who would've certainly spread the story far and wide before the siege of Jerusalem.
>>17417290Interesting. On a similar note, Zeitgeist was a very interesting movie to me. It woke me up in a way but also failed to work. I was saved and entered the Kingdom of Heaven 2 years later even though most of the actual real nuts and bolts mechanisms for this have been removed from religion. So that has zero chance of fooling me.
>>17417273Yes, we have, in fact, disproven genesis. It's not possible for humans to have descended from a single breeding pair, and the earth has been proven to be older than 6000-7000 years old. These two facts disprove genesis.
>>17416409so your cope is that "this generation" as in "this generation that will live during the end times will not pass until the end times happen" hurrrr durrrrrrrr
>>17416215>alleged evidence for this hypothetical jew is weak and raises more doubts than it answers.If so, then you are Ignorant of the actual evidence,...or a fool.There is More legal, written, circumstatial, eyewitness testimony, trails of written manuscripts, government & historical documents of Jesus of Nazareth, than ANYONE else in history!He split Time in half!A few groups of people tried to discredit the witnesses who saw him rise from the Dead, and they were proven false!Romans wrote about him.You be better off not believing in Abraham Lincoln!
>>17416331>Jew with magic spit isn't real. JNot 'Majic'He created EVERYTHING!HE made the man See.If you desperately ask Him, he can make you See also.Now you are spiritually blind!
>>17417816do not post some shit hole before his chad. You don't prove anything get the fuck out. Show me he creat everything. Why christcuck like this?
>>17417812No, there isn't. >You be better off not believing in Abraham Lincoln!Genuine schizophrenic cult indoctrination
>>17416215Jesus is co-Eternal you dumb phariseeRead John 1:1.
>>17416331Achilles, Hercules, and Merlin were realvery poor example champ, go back to schoolwe even know how many horses Achilles had and what they were called
>>17416380>Seeing the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory>-Angels being sent with the sound of a trumpet, gathering the elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other>has not occurred yet. When all that stuff happens, you can rest assured that Jesus is just about to come back.Um...When you SEE Him, ... He IS back!-Israel has come back -They possess Jerusalem -Earthquakes in diverse (unusual) places.-Disease around the globe In 2029 Apophus is to come closer than many Satellites - this will knock many of then down (stars falling from the sky) probably 1/3rd.We've been given 4 more years before things become Terrible The Great Tribulation should be here by the end of the Decade!
>>17417822Open you Eyes!Read something you don't want to agree with!Pull your head out of sand!Evolution is being rejected more and more, because it doesn't add up!
>>17417834no such as shit is happening you dumb. The earth is better and better maybe only someshithole nation in african is fighting each other like everytime in the past.
>>17417838we don't talk about evolution. We talk that you belive so much about fan fiction. I open my eyes and i see nothing.
>>17417831>Achilles, Hercules, and Merlin were realThis is also true.But there is much more evidence of Jesus.In addition to the Gospels, Historian for Rome, Josephus wrote anout himPontius Pilate wrote about Jesus to Caesar.Many other writers tooDon't expect me to do You research for you,Learn how to Google!
>>17417845>I open my eyes and i see nothing.You are Blind.Jesus Heals! - Seek him -
>>17417849I'm on your side dummy
>>17416215First, due to the popularity of Christianity many pagan stories were changed to match it.Second, even when the pagan ones are previous, those gods didnt exist but Jesus did. Jesus is the myth made flesh, the patterns seen throughout the myths are fullfilled in Him, all heroism, all kingship, all Godhood.
>>17417862Jesus didn't exist. There's nothing written about him until after the destruction of the temple in 70ad
>>17417870Christianity is dying and paganism is increasing
>>17417906>kvetchingfascinating behavior. tell me more
>>17416215How many people do you think had access to and could read an Egyptian book of the dead in the Roman Levant? Dumb retard.
>>17417911pagaynism is too homoerotic to be increasing in numbers.
>>17418038Based on current trends, there will be over 100 million pagans throughout Europe in 5 to 10 years. Christianity will continue to die off
>>17418050Extrapolating like that is always dumb. It's like looking at an economic graph where their are spikes and dips and then predicting that since there is currently a spike, the line will just continue going on up forever.
>>17418050>over 100 million fruitcakes shitting up Europegrim
>>17416632He doesnt want to admit that Jesus hawk tuah and spit on that thing
>the flying magic jewish man never existed>HUH SO I GUESS NO ONE EVER EXISTED THEN Incredible
