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Why arent you Catholic yet?
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>>17427011
I am
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>>17427011
Because I'm not an idol worshiping heretic.
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>>17427011
I wanted to make a joke with a magic cracker and a magical negro, but I can't come up with a good punchline and chatgpt won't help because it goes against its guidelines.
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>>17427020
Based
>>17427022
Cringe
>>17427025
Huh?
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>>17427027
Magic cracker is a double entendre for the eucharist and a (esp. slave owning) white person. Magical negro is a trope featuring a supernatural person of afroamerican origin. The general idea was to tie the two together through the shared reference to racially defined supernatural abilities.
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>>17427011
where are orthodoxGODS?
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>>17427011
Because I don't worship a loathsome tranny zionist rabbi as a god
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>>17427166
to busy burning candles to saint stalin
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>>17427011
Pretty funny meme when Luther and the Reformers reinstituted communion in both kinds that the Medieval Roman church had abandoned.
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>>17427011
I'm White.
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>>17427234
Im Polish
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>>17427022
1/2
Case #3947 of protestants viewing worship so low that they consider asking for prayers and chants to be worship.
The Bible clearly states that prayers of the righteous are more effective.
Job 42:8-10
>… my servant Job shall pray for you: his face I will accept, that folly be not imputed to you: for you have not spoken right things before me, as my servant Job hath.
>10 The Lord also was turned at the penance of Job, when he prayed for his friends. And the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.
God accepted Job’s friend because Job prayed for him, this shows that prayers of the righteous are more effective, so asking for them to pray for you and intercede for you is completely normal.
>Revelations 8:3-4
>And another angel came, and stood before the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given to him much incense, that he should offer of the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar, which is before the throne of God. And the smoke of the incense of the prayers of the saints ascended up before God from the hand of the angel.
Prayers of saints are effective.
We see in James 5:16-18 that praying for each other is effective and so are prayers of saints.
>Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much. Elias was a man passible like unto us: and with prayer he prayed that it might not rain upon the earth, and it rained not for three years and six months. And he prayed again: and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.
Again in Acts 19:11-12, we see Paul’s handkerchief interceding.
>And God wrought by the hand of Paul more than common miracles. So that even there were brought from his body to the sick, handkerchiefs and aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the wicked spirits went out of them
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>>17427680
2/2
Same case in 2 Kings 2:13-14 with Elijah miraculous cloak
> And he took up the mantle of Elias, that fell from him: and going back, he stood upon the bank of the Jordan, 14 And he struck the waters with the mantle of Elias, that had fallen from him, and they were not divided. And he said: Where is now the God of Elias? And he struck the waters, and they were divided, hither and thither, and Eliseus passed over.
The Bible also teaches that dead saints can listen to you (unlike what many anons stated here before). Matthew 17:2-3
>And he was transfigured before them. And his face did shine as the sun: and his garments became white as snow. And behold there appeared to them Moses and Elias talking with him.
1 Samuel 28:12-20, Samuel when dead is intervening in our world.
>And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried out with a loud voice, and said to Saul: Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul. And the king said to her: Fear not: what hast thou seen? And the woman said to Saul: I saw gods ascending out of the earth. And he said to her: What form is he of? And she said: An old man cometh up, and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul understood that it was Samuel, and he bowed himself with his face to the ground, and adored. And Samuel said to Saul: Why hast thou disturbed my rest, that I should be brought up?
Revelation is even clearer.
5:8
> And when he had opened the book, the four living creatures, and the four and twenty ancients fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints:
In 6:9-10 you see dead saints communicated with God.
>And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held. And they cried with a loud voice, saying: How long, O Lord (holy and true) dost thou not judge and revenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
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I just don't think an all-powerful god would spend the better part of a century looking the other way as his church covers up hundreds of thousands of sexual abuse cases
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>>17427011
Religion is inherently cultural
>>17427959
This sets the arbitrary perspective that a metaphysical being navigates through cultural morality
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>>17427011
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>>17427011
I'm a Freemason. You wouldn't let me join if I wanted to.
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>>17428148
kek
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>>17428148
>>17428155
god i need to rape me a muslim guy, not even a catholic dog, just a protestant. it would be funny to leave, wiping blood and shit off my dick, yelling at him that he won't be saved; his "god" has not even two fucking feet to stand upon.
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>>17428199
sounds gay desu
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>>17428139
This posts reminds me how there are honest to god (no pun intended) christian writers who believe that masturbation is more sinful than rape
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>>17428219
What are their arguments for that? ? I want to see if I can refute them
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because i'm not a spic

pic related actual Martin Luther shitpost
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>>17427011
I'm not down with child sex trafficking or neomonarchism. Actually those are basically the same.
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>>17428199
kys faggot
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>>17428888
I-Is that what I think it is? Quads of truth?
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>>17428148
See this >>17427680 and the post in reply. It already addresses your objections.
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>>17429610
tldr
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>>17430049
Did you have the same reaction when opening the Bible?
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>>17430054
Before opening it.
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>>17430057
You’re a prot?
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>>17427011
I find the evidence that the god of Christianity is man-made concept to be stronger than it being truly god.
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>>17427011
I’m already a Catholic but if you mean a papist then:
Marian idolatry.
If the papacy was divinely instituted
If it was shown that the Roman magisterium was in historic continuity with itself
If I became convinced that dogmas could be revealed apart/outside of Scripture
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>>17428219
For women
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>>17427011
Because I believe in the Bible.
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>>17427011
Because I'm not an NPC
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>>17431243
Which Catholic doctrine is against the Bible?
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>>17427680
>>17427720
Catholic cope.

Exodus 20:4-6
>"You shall not make for yourself an idol, or >any likeness of what is in heaven above or on >the earth beneath or in the water under the >earth.
>You shall not worship them or serve them; for >I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, >visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the >children, on the third and the fourth >generations of those who hate Me,
>but showing loving kindness to thousands, to >those who love Me and keep My >commandments.
1 Timothy 2:5-6
>For there is one God, and one mediator also >between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
>who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the >testimony given at the proper time.
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>>17432513
Works salvation, praying to saints, calling priests father, forbidding priests to marry, having a priesthood in the first place, idolatry, confession, transubstantiation, infant baptism, purgatory, eternal virginity of Mary, universal church.
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>>17432524
>calling priests father
Seriously amazed you people even know how to breathe. Honestly, well done.
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>>17427011

Cuz I don't believe in this nonsense
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>>17427011
well you know what catholics got right? burning subhumans alive, but you know what they got wrong? that they were the pedohomo subhumans deserving to be burned alive the most
more news @ 11
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>>17431128
>Marian worship
See this >>17427680 and the post in reply.
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>>17432885
Why did none of the apostles seem to consider Mary's Assumption worthy of noting?
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>>17428148
>most rigourous Islamic/Protestant (literally no difference between them) theological tract
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>>17432829
Your insult doesn't change the fact that you do this every time you go to church.
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>>17432885
>protestants viewing worship so low that they consider asking for prayers and chants to be worship.
Does God have a low view of worship too then?
Isaiah 6:1

Psalm 141:2, "Let my prayer be set before You as incense, The lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice"
Or does St. Augustine?

When the disciples asked Jesus "how are we to pray?" our Lord said, "This, then, is how you should pray, "our Father, who art in Heaven..." We therefore address only God in prayer, and we can address the Son and the Holy Spirit along with the Father because they are of one substance. Now when many of the fathers wrote on the nature of the Our Father prayer they noted how all other prayer are elaborations or meditations on one of its petitions.This most sublime and divine of all prayers should be our measuring stick for all other prayer.
We can affirm that the saints in heaven do indeed pray for us, but it is unwarranted to pray to them or to invoke them. We have no promise that they can hear us.We have no promise and no revealed word on which to base this practice, therefore it cannot be done in faith which rests on revealed truth, and therefore it should be piously avoided. For whatever is not of faith is sin, Romans 14:23 This is not analogous to asking the saints on earth to pray for us, for here we have a divine word and promise for the practice and you ask them in a manner wherein you are certain that they will hear you. Compare either calling or writing me to pray for you, would this be the same as kneeling in church next Sunday with folded hands saying, "Saint Michael [my first name] pray for me now and for
No, and it is a false equivocation to equate these two different things.
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>>17432889
How is this relevant to anything that I said?
>>17433481
>Isaiah 6:1
How is this related?
>Psalm 141:2
Again unrelated.
Where does God call chants and asking for prayers to be worship?
>no promise they can hear us
See this: >>17427720
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>>17434202
>We therefore address only God in prayer, and we can address the Son and the Holy Spirit along with the Father because they are of one substance.

Catholics really are mindbroken, delusional furries.
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>>17435293
What you said is completely unrelated to what we are discussing.
>picrel
See this >>17427680 and the post in the reply, your prot brothers failed in addressing this.
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I already am. Latin Mass supremacy.



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