How do you read the Gospel of Mark and conclude that Jesus was the incarnation of God?It seems pretty straightforwardly written to imply he was a messiah sent by God rather than God in the flesh. What am I missing here?
>>17428394>Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the SabbathWho is Lord of the Sabbath, but God?
>>17428394https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwQF-SS-O_g
>>17428394>How do you read the Gospel of Mark and conclude that Jesus was the incarnation of God?Read the other ones.
>>17428394Jesus wasn't the incarnation of God. Jesus was the Christ.What is the difference? The incarnation of God (the Avatar) is born already knowing He is God. He doesn't have to learn it like Jesus did.Now pay attention: Jesus is our example. The path he followed, everybody must follow as well, the same way he did (the Christian way) or in alternative ways (Buddhism, Jainism, Sanatana Dharma, Islam). Every single human being will come to realize one day that they are God.Surrender means understanding that all are God. God is everywhere. Omnipresent.
>>17428549>>17428394He's right you know. Read the Gospel of Judas.
>>17428394in GMark, Jesus was adopted as the Son of God at his baptism.
>>17428394>Mark: 1:8 I baptized you with water; but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.>Who can do this but God?>Mark 1:11 and a voice came from the heavens: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”John the Baptist was the one crying out in the wilderness to prepare the way the the Messiah, this saying from heaven and the Spirit descending like a dove are a confirmation of Isaiah's prophecy. >Mark 1:22 And they were amazed at His teaching; for He was teaching them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.He demonstrated that he had more knowledge and authority than even the scribes.>Mark 2:5-10 5 And Jesus, seeing their faith, *said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.” 6 But some of the scribes were sitting there and thinking it over in their hearts, 7 “Why does this man speak that way? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins except God alone?” 8 Immediately Jesus, aware [a]in His spirit that they were thinking that way within themselves, *said to them, “Why are you thinking about these things in your hearts? 9 Which is easier, to say to the paralyzed man, ‘Your sins are forgiven’; or to say, ‘Get up, and pick up your pallet and walk’? 10 But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—He *said to the paralyzed man,This is self-explanatory. He clearly put Himself in the place the the Most High by demonstrating the ability to forgive sins. >Mark 3:27-29 But no one can enter the strong man’s house and plunder his property unless he first ties up the strong man, and then he will plunder his house.The strong man is Satan and Jesus defeated him.
>>17429039>Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God, this is My brother, and sister, and mother.”Implying that He Himself always does the will of God, which only God can do.>Mark 6:2 And on the Sabbath he began to teach in the synagogue, and many who heard him were astonished, saying, “Where did this man get these things? What is the wisdom given to him? How are such mighty works done by his hands?I wonder where He got such wisdom and power.>Mark 6:7 And he called the twelve and began to send them out two by two, and gave them authority over the unclean spirits.He gave them authority over unclean spirits, which he could do since He has all authority.>Mark 11:3 If anyone says to you, ‘Why are you doing this?’ say, ‘The Lord has need of it and will send it back here immediately.’”Christ calls Himself the Lord>Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, “I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”Jesus confirms that He is the King of the Jews and that He Himself will come with the clouds of heaven. It's not "some guy" that comes on the clouds of heaven, it's God on the day of judgement.>Mark 15:2 And Pilate asked him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” And he answered him, “You have said so.”The greek for You have said so is sy legeis (Σὺ λέγεις), the majority of modern scholars agree (citing D.R. Catchpole specifically) that it's an idiom meaning "Yes, I am the king, but not in the way you think"
>>17428394>>What am I missing here?The famous semitic psychopathology
all jewish ''wisdom'' is in parable, because jews dont have any wisdom so they try to hide it with ''parables'' which they say oddly-enough they always require a jew to interpret
>>17429075>Implying that He Himself always does the will of God, which only God can do.Doing God's Will is what Christian Perfection is though, i.e. your actions line up with God's Will at all times. e.g. Marguerite Porete>I wonder where He got such wisdom and power.If you tell me something does that mean I am you?>He gave them authority over unclean spirits, which he could do since He has all authority.Delegating power does not mean he is the source of it, it simply means he had the ability to initiate others. The fact that a manager can delegate work doesn't mean he's the CEO>Christ calls Himself the LordAnd so do the apostles, but Lord doesn't automatically mean YHWH or the UK government would be a much more interesting entity>The greek for You have said so is sy legeis (Σὺ λέγεις), the majority of modern scholars agree (citing D.R. Catchpole specifically) that it's an idiom meaning "Yes, I am the king, but not in the way you think"I didn't know this one, I'd be interested to hear more on it
>>17429152You don't even know the beginning of wisdom.
>>17429174>Doing God's Will is what Christian Perfection is though, i.e. your actions line up with God's Will at all times. e.g. Marguerite PoreteA Christian will not ALWAYS do God's will. A Christian is still susceptible to sin but Christ ALWAYS did God's will and didn't sin. The fact of Jesus not sinning should also be proof to you.>If you tell me something does that mean I am you?No, but if I were you I'd ask myself how Jesus could have attained such profound wisdom if he was just some guy.>Delegating power does not mean he is the source of it,God is the source. So Jesus had the authority to delegate God's power. Why would Jesus be given authority from God to wield His power if He was just some guy?>And so do the apostles, but Lord doesn't automatically mean YHWH or the UK government would be a much more interesting entity>>17429174>And so do the apostles, but Lord doesn't automatically mean YHWHNice try, but He said "THE Lord has need of it," not "A lord has need of it," >“Not everyone who says to me ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heavenBecause you must know what Christ is Lord really means.
>>17428394From the very start of the Gospel of Mark.>The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. As it is written in Isaias the prophet: Behold I send my angel before thy face, who shall prepare the way before thee. A voice of one crying in the desert: Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight his paths.Mark quotes Isaiah 40:3 >The voice of one crying in the desert: Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the wilderness the paths of our God. It is clear from Isaiah that God himself is coming as the verse literally says in Hebrew “Prepare the way of Yahweh”.Who is the fulfillment of this prophecy according to Mark?>John was in the desert baptizing, and preaching the baptism of penance, unto remission of sins.And what did he say?>And he preached, saying: There cometh after me one mightier than I, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and loose.Who did John prepare the way before?>And it came to pass, in those days, Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan.So who came after John? Jesus. According to the OT who should the messenger prepare the way before? God/Yahweh. Therefore, Jesus is Yahweh from the very first chapter of Mark.