Thoughts on euthanasia/DNR/withdrawing life support for the terminally ill?Are they morally wrong?
>>17428474>an old/sick person voluntarily seeking euthanasia because they're dying and miserableMorally right.>the government or family choosing to euthanize a person involuntarily because that person has become a burdenMorally wrong.
>>17428474>Are they morally wrong?no, but you are if you think you should have some say on whether or not on how someone else chooses to live their life>>17428534>>the government or family choosing to euthanize a person involuntarily because that person has become a burdenright but this doesn't happen despite what rightoids want you to believe.
>>17428474Yes. There is the natural course of things and there is the artificial means. Guess what is the correct way to go.
>>17428546But life support machines and medical care in general are unnatural.
>>17428539>this doesn't happenIt happens every day in nursing homes and hospitals all over the Western world. I have seen it happen to two relatives, and the parents or grandparents of a number of friends. The family member with power of attorney often railroads other family members and chooses not to pay for life-saving treatment of some kind, placing the sick relative on hospice "care" instead. This occurs quite frequently to those suffering from various types of dementia, and other neurodegenerative conditions, especially at the hands of an opportunistic spouse.
It should not only be an option, it should be mandatory once the government decides you are to be released.
>>17428546Nothing more natural than being mauled and devoured alive by a bear. Nature does not equal good.
>>17428474The problem is you get some fucking overdramatic idiot teenager or 20 something and put them together with some idiot therapist who went to 89% acceptance rate Retard State University, and their attentionwhore hobby turns into death. Usually this sort attempts roping a dozens of times. But when theirs a medical option and a doctor is holding the rope, they don't fail.
Personally I don’t understand why grown ass adults in this day and age don’t submit the appropriate documents about what should be done if they are in a severe condition Legally I have it on paper that I’m not to be attempted to be revived if I suffer severe brain damage, paralysis or other debilitating things
>>17428474I do think such things have their place, but for euthanasia especially, there should probably be somewhat strict rules like “the patient must have some long term sickness” or smth like that so that family/insurance companies/the government can’t easily get to pressure a vulnerable person into committing suicide for personal or economic gain. IIRC, Canada has had some cases like that lately.
>>17429201>The family member with power of attorney often railroads other family members and chooses not to pay for life-saving treatment of some kind, placing the sick relative on hospice "care" instead.sounds like a problem with the uncaring family then
>>17429201I don't know if there's a cure for dementia
>>17429974There isn't one, yet, though there are degrees of dementia, and you can maintain decent QoL with family support until the later stages. I used to help a woman who had early onset Alzheimer's (she had just turned 50 when the signs became undeniable). Her family gave her some great years before the end, and they never put her on hospice. Died in her sleep, in her home, with at least one family member keeping her company until the very end. Even on the days I was scheduled to help out, there was always someone from her family there too. They all knew she had a will, and they were all aware that life would be less complicated if they shoved her in some hospice, but they cared enough to give her real dignity for as long as possible.>>17429756>sounds like a problem with the uncaring family thenYeah, and it happens. A lot. It's not good, and it's not a "rightoid" fever dream. People from all over the political spectrum have experienced what some call 'murder by hospice'.
>>17430053>People from all over the political spectrum have experienced what some call 'murder by hospice'.exclusively american problem. nursing homes are much less common in other western countries. that's what happens when you have a consoomerist country that measures itself via material consumption.
>>17428474If someone’s body cannot sustain itself without technological intervention… maybe. And by somebody i mean the very old
