The Greeks were right about reality, not Christianity.>Order from chaos>The world is everchanging fire>War is the father of all things>The world of Being, the logos IS the change within the world of Becoming contra Platonism/Christianity You can't debate me because I'm already right.
What's order and chaos in this context?
>>17429022Chaos>primordial state of the universe where there was zero order to all thingsOrder>Out of the chaos order arises (life itself being a prime example or thunderstorms out of multiple forces coming together)It is in direct opposition to Platonic thinking where the world of appearance is a lower form from higher forms with the One (God) being at the top.tl;dr order from chaos (bottom up) vs. order imbued from beyond (descending down from above).
>>17429022Chaos or “fire” in this context is the very nature of reality you see before you- time and everything being multiple and changing. This is in contrast to the eleatic school who saw all of life as an illusion and true change as impossible. >>17429031The main difference from Plato I believe is that Heraclitus believes that logos and the soul, etc metaphysical plane is always in change whereas Plato believe earth has change but the metaphysical world is static.
>>17429004This is not uniquely greek philosophy, but garbled transmissions of Zoroastrianism, it's no coincidence that virtually all presocratic philosophers came from asia minor, and were interested in astrology and natural philosophy as well
