>Be Hirohito>legally brainwashed his soldiers to suicide bomb Americans>Has the most technologically advanced weaponry in the world including Type 30 Arisaka rifles, Yamato ships, Type 97 tanks, & Mitsubishi A6M Zero>conquered half of China, Korea, all SEA countries, and Pacific islands by 1941.>Russia and America were too occupied fighting the Germans and the Italians in Africa and Europe in 1942.How did Afghanistan and Vietnam win against an American attack? What stats did Afghanistan and Vietnam have that Japan didn't?
>>17430816Japs are just cucks. It's that simple.
BWC
>>17430816President was a Dem during WW2 so the media had to cheer him whereas in Vietnam and Afghan the presidents were Republican.
>just bought a Type 99 in great condition >I'm going to beat the absolute fuck out of itA rifle is meant to be used.
>>17430816>>Has the most technologically advanced weaponry in the world including Type 30 Arisaka rifles, Yamato ships, Type 97 tanks, & Mitsubishi A6M ZeroThese were dog shit even at the time with the sole exception of the Zero, which was rapidly outclassed once Americans stuck 8 50cals on their fighters.
The most significant event was probably the U.S. breaking Japanese code which allowed them to discover their plans to attack Midway, resulting in the destruction of 4 Japanese carriers
>>17430816>How could the nation that pumped tons of steel into giant target practicing ships lose against the side that shoot at the targets?!Unironicly, there were some realy time-travel like shenanaigins going on in the pacific theater. During midway, the one spotter plain that spottet the US carriers had an engine failure, during Guaradacanal, the spotting plane that spottet the US carrier had interferences cut contact with the strike group TWICEHad the Japs punced on the US carrier, all woulöd have changed, but TWICE they got out of sheer luckAlso also, the war in china was going sideways long before pearl harbor. The KMT knew that they had more men then the japs and could outlast them while the Japs failed to extract the needed recourses they startet the war over (mostly oil and rubber)But to finally answer your question:>How did Afghanistan and Vietnam win against an American attack?If one side actually upholds some degree of humanity and tryes to prevent civilian casulties, then the other side who doesn''t will winThe reason why the US used the nukes instead of invading the home islands
>>17430819LBJ, a democrat, was President during the most active phases of the US involvement in Vietnam.
>>17430823>The reason why the US used the nukes instead of invading the home islandsMore civilians would have died in a mainland invasion than if you dropped twenty nukes on Japan.
>>17430825I know, I was not condeming, just explaining
>>17430824He was also widely demonized for his involvement
>>17430823>tryes to prevent civilian casultiesThe nukes did prevent civilian casualties. Estimates were that a conventional ground invasion would have ended in millions of Japanese dead, compared to the several hundred thousand that happened. The bombs were mercy.
>2 MacArthur movies>both are notoriously awfulwhy
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>>17430825american propagandajapan was ready to surrender but bloodthirsty americans wanted to test their nukes on a populace
>>17430826But the side that did avoid civilian casualties did win in such an engagement. Same with the West, we made an effort not to kill civilians (except bomber Harris) and the Axis forces committed massacres left and right and they still lost. I don't disagree with the broader strokes of your statement but I feel "only psychopaths who don't care about civilian casualties win" is untrue as a statement.
>>17430816>Has the most technologically advanced weaponry in the world including Type 30 Arisaka rifles, Yamato ships, Type 97 tanks, & Mitsubishi A6M Zerolol no
>>17430831>japan was ready to surrenderSource?
>>17430816haha US war production go brrrrrrrrrrrr
>>17430816logisticssupplyoilwhen they attacked pearl harbor they should have targeted the oil storage tanks
>>17430831The Japanese high command tried to overthrow the divinely appointed Emperor even after being nuked because they felt surrender was unacceptable and most had to be killed. You're dead wrong.
>>17430832The alliies were only half the equation and the other half (USSR) historicl famously cared less abt civilians then the axis (when our men encounter a mine field, they will march forward as if its not there)As much as the US war industry won the war, the brutality of the commis broke the neck
>>17430816Japan barely has any natural resources and America has a lot. Once America was able to turn their entire production output towards the war effort there was no shot Japan could have won. It’s similar to why Germany lost, they barely had any resources and no colonies around the world so their only chance at winning was a quick blitzkrieg across Europe before their enemies had time to get their war production into gear. Once they got stalled in Russia it was over.
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>>17430837Yeah I don’t get where people pick up this false information. Surrender could only be done by a unanimous decision from the big 6 and they weren’t even close to all agreeing on surrender terms. They didn’t even all agree after Nagasaki / the Soviet invasion of Manchuria and the Emperor had to step in
>>17430832>we made an effort not to kill civiliansKek what? The allies killed civilians all the time as policy. Bombing was done to maximize civilian and civilian medical staff and first responders. They specifically waited for ambulances to appear to target them after initial civilian bombings.In no way whatsoever was it the policy of the allies to separate civilian and military targets
>>17430816Code breakers, superior American war machine production, and incompetent Japanese admiralty made them lose the Pacific.
>>17430816They were technologically advanced for asian standards, by western euro standards all their stuff was subpar.
>>17430816Reminder that Hirohito was so mindbroken by the defeat that he out of the blue offered to convert to Christianity and to push his subjects to do the same. MacArthur was baffled and basically pretended he didn't hear him, the last thing he needed was a religious civil war.
>>17430836They didn't attack PH.
>>17430816I try not to retcon or judge the actions of the WWII generation too much. It was legitimately the most insane period in human history and the things that happened in those two theaters will likely never occur again.It’s like asking why did 1 million Frenchmen have to die in the Caesar's Gallic Wars. Why? because sometimes that’s how many French need to die. That’s just the way it is.
>>17430843>casually leaks Hitler's plans to the AlliesThey helped fucking up Germany too.>Ōshima's close relationship with Hitler and Ribbentrop gave him unparalleled access, for a foreigner, to German war plans and national policy; comparable to that of Winston Churchill with the American war leadership. In turn, Hitler admired the militaristic Japanese and made Ōshima a personal confidante.>Ōshima made visits to the Eastern Front and the Atlantic Wall, and he met periodically with Hitler and other Nazi leaders. Being a meticulous military officer in training, he wrote detailed reports of the information provided to him by the Nazis. The reports were sent by radio to Tokyo in the Purple diplomatic cipher. Unknown to the Japanese, the Purple cipher was broken by American codebreakers in 1940. Thus, Oshima's reports were read almost simultaneously by his superiors in Japan and by Allied leaders and analysts as "Magic" intelligence. Sometimes, the Allies read the reports before the Japanese did, as transmission problems between Germany and Japan often held up the reports for hours. Ōshima was interviewed in 1959 and asked about the security of his transmissions. He said that he had been warned in 1941 by Heinrich Georg Stahmer that there were signs that Japanese diplomatic messages were being read by the Allies, but that he was convinced that, by double-encrypting his dispatches, he had ensured they could not be decrypted by the Allies. He died before the Allied decryption of Purple messages became common knowledge and so never knew that he had unwittingly provided the Allies with priceless intelligence.
>>17430816Cursed image
>>17430818love flawsy's art.
>>17430816>type 97 tanks>most advancedKek
>>17430816>How the fuck did Hirohito lose?America is a thousand times the size and had nukes, you do the math.
>>17430847>It was legitimately the most insane period in human history and the things that happened in those two theaters will likely never occur againNah the Mongol conquests were as bad.
Japan had a modern military for 1937. By 1942 it was outdated.
>>17430816>What stats did Afghanistan and Vietnam have that Japan didn't?An America that held it's punches
No one else in the world could come near America's industrial capabilities.
We never fought the IJA's best troops who were all in China, we only took on shitty, half-starved island garrisons.
>>17431172Bruh the Soviet ran through the elite Manchurian IJA force like hot knife on butter. IJA surrendered in matters of days. No one expected the Soviets to do that wellIf anything the Pacific garrison were more tenacious fighters and had the terrain advantage. Manchuria shows how shit the IJA was on the open field
>>17430818the USA are a feminine country
