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Was Waco USA's Beslan moment?
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Don't make a cult to sleep with other people's wives and then hold everyone hostage when you get called out for it.
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>>17431711
That's my 1st Amendment right!
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>>17431712
There was nothing wrong with having the cult legally, but he absolutely drew suspicion towards himself and burned too many people. If he wasn't doing anything illegal it shouldn't have been a problem to get interrogated and let them search him, especially considering he was operating a sex cult, buying weapons, and was in a compound. A raid by the police in pre-PATRIOT Act times was as above ground and in the interest of justice as possible. I find it to be a foolish case to rally around.
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>>17431720
>let yourself get sodomized by the Clinton Gestapo
no thanks
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>touch kids
>'what do you mean, probable cause?'
Burning the entire compound and killing almost everybody is a telltale sign of a psychopath destroying everything because he can't play god anymore.
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>>17431631
Not really, most deaths in beslan were caused by armed radical muslim terrorists while in Waco it was ATF and NG
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>>17431711
>Don't make a cult to sleep with other people's wives and then hold everyone hostage when you get called out for it.

Cool story, merch.
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>>17431631
Saddam Hussein is alive and being kept in Guantanamo. Holy Israelites are there too.
Yahweh told me: "I am about to blow the lid off in Israel"
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>>17431631
More like Beslan is the Russian remake of Waco. Waco came out in 1994 and Beslan came out in 2006.
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>>17431711
>Don't make a cult to sleep with other people's wives and then hold everyone hostage when you get called out for it.
This is why the ATF had to burn and kill everyone in the compound? This all prompted by some retarded snitching on the Davidians for having the proper means to defend themselves
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>>17431739
>partisan shitflinging out of nowhere
Guess which party's in charge of the FBI.
>>17432245
Koresh did that. If you want an example of law enforcement actually doing something retarded look at the MOVE bombing. But that doesn't involve mediocre white people chimping out so you don't care about it.
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>>17432287
>Koresh did that.
Koresh set fire to his own compound after cooperating with the authorities for weeks? Dog of the state, retard
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>>17431720
He did. He was interrogated by local police. The ATF made absolutely no attempt to arrest him when he was alone when he went into town multiple times per week, they wanted a big show of kicking down doors and crashing through windows.
>>17432245
Worse than that. The guy who snitched was the son of the former leader who was furious his mother didn't put him in charge, dug up her rotting corpse, drove it to the Davidian compound and demanded Koresh prove he was Jesus by bringing her back to life.
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>>17431631
Not ironically there was a Russian in Waco:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Smirnov_(scientist)
>Igor Viktorovich Smirnov (Russian: Aбaкyмoв Игopь Bиктopoвич, Cмиpнoв Игopь Bиктopoвич) (April 5, 1951 – November 5, 2004) was a controversial Russian scientist best known for his role in Soviet-era mind control research as well as an obscure field of human behavior study he called "psychoecology". He was a son of Soviet Minister of State Security Viktor Abakumov, who was executed for his role in Joseph Stalin's political repressions

>Smirnov has been characterized in the media as a Rasputin-like character with "almost mystical powers of persuasion". According to his wife Rusalkina, the Soviet military enlisted Smirnov's psychotechnology in the 1980s to combat the Mujahideen and treat post-traumatic stress syndrome in Russian soldiers during the war in Afghanistan. Smirnov's background included military research, and the care of drug addiction and mental illness. He founded the Psychotechnology Research Institute at the Peoples' Friendship University of Russia to work on ideas like "psychocorrection", a term he used to denote the use of subliminal messages to alter a subject's will, or even modify a person's personality without their knowledge

>The Institute caught the attention of Chris Morris and Janet Morris who were reportedly attempting to sell technology to the United States military. The FBI consulted Smirnov regarding the Waco Siege in 1993. Smirnov proposed piping subliminal messages from sect members' families through the phone lines during negotiations so as to effect the surrender of David Koresh, however the FBI declined the plan. Smirnov died in November 5, 2004, leaving his wife to run the Institute
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>>17432392
Waco was burned down because David Koresh had received hacked data from a DOJ server which showed that the bushes and clintons were trafficking drugs to/from mexico via the airport just adjacent to the church.

Whenever a plane was taxiing, David Koresh would hop on a golf cart with a friend and they would go observe and record the tail numbers on the planes taking off; they were discussing how to proceed with prosecuting.

David Koresh attempted to surrender "take me, let the women and children live.", including the CD-ROM containing the evidence, and was seen on TV exiting the church waiving the CD in the air.

At this moment, a chinese-american delta force sniper took a shot at him from a shed far away, but failed to kill Koresh. Koresh fled back inside, now realizing that the government would not negotiate.

Hillary Clinton ordered the church burned to the ground (re. Janet Reno) in typical Arkanicide fashion. Delta-force demolitions experts punched three holes in the building to produce a "flue" or "firepipe" like a dutch oven, designed to use convection driven air induction to raise temperatures by increasing fresh oxygen flow, like a blast furnace. They punched three holes in the church with tanks, filled it with flammable "CS gas" powder, and ignited it all with a flashbang. FLIR camera on the overhead helicopter caught everything clearly.

The FBI agents who were shot on the room had been security detail for Bill and Hillary Clinton, and witnesses to two murders ordered by them; so they were loose ends ho had to be removed. Autopsies shows the bullets came from the delta force helicopter overhead, not the inside the church as officially claimed.

The metal front door of the church which also would have shown the FBI fired into the building (therefore return fire was defensive) went missing from evidence.
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>>17431754
>implying kids were abused
never proved
>implying they torched it themselves
also never proved
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>>17431631

Beslan wasn't repaid for two-fold by a single righteous man
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>>17432439
Why did they set up this random guy for again?
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>>17432439
OKC Bombing: Sheep-dipped Timothy McVeigh did the OKC bombing under orders from Larry Potts, the FBI agent who was in charge of Ruby Ridge and Waco. 24 witnesses told the FBI about John Doe Number 2 who was also caught on surveillance tapes. The FBI claims they lost the tapes. Richard Lee Guthrie of the ARA was John Doe Number 2. 3 explosives were used, 2 were defused on site. Counterforce charges did the real damage, the truck bomb was insufficient. Andreas Straßmeir, a German army intelligence officer, planted the charges and lead a nearby militia compound. FBI agents were told not to show up. DOJ was notified of the bombing 20 minutes before it happened. Just like 9/11 it destroyed sensitive documents, this time on Whitewater and Mena drug trafficking. No recovery was allowed until after those documents were seized. The site was evacuated of first responders with a bogus bomb threat to do that. McVeigh believed he wouldn’t be killed and some execution witnesses believed he didn’t die. There was no autopsy after his execution based on McVeigh’s requests, allegedly cremated after. The SPLC had foreknowledge of the attack from their informants within Elohim City.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mcveigh/moreconspirators.html
https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/04/18/patriot-games/
http://archive.fo/WltVK
https://web.archive.org/web/20170613133527/https://libertarianinstitute.org/justice/patcon-oklahoma-city-jesse-trentadues-lonely-crusade-justice/
http://news.intelwire.com/2007/10/patcon-revealed-exclusive-look-inside.html
http://archive.fo/xBdBf
https://archive.org/details/OklahomaCityBombingSecrets-PatconAndTheStrategyOfTensions
https://archive.org/details/PatconTheFBIsSecretWarAgainstThePatriotMovement
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Andreas_Stra%C3%9Fmeir
http://archive.fo/z18oZ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim_City,_Oklahoma
http://archive.fo/nfSgx
http://archive.fo/Nj7Xg
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>>17432287
The Communist Party
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>>17432432
Investigation of child abuse still means the cops can come inside to at least take a look. Escalating to a standoff is pic related and you know it.
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>>17431711
The ATF didn’t give a fuck about Koresh cucking everybody, they were alarmed they were stockpiling weapons for a doomsday scenario (their 2nd amendment right)
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>>17434410
good thing they saved the kids by burning them to a crisp and then taking selfies over the bodies
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>>17434547
That and also the feds were shitting bricks about people exercising their first amendment right in the way the founding fathers intended, the reason the government was explicitly limited not to interfere with religion.
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>>17432287
>If you want an example of law enforcement actually doing something retarded look at the MOVE bombing
Back to r*ddit where the fed three letter agencies are wonderful and only local cops are bad
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>>17432403
>trolling outside of /b/
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>>17434410
No the ATF, retard.
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>>17434584
None of those people in that building had anything to do with Waco though. That is no different than attacking a waiter for the cook messing up your order.
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>>17431631
Why didn't they just comply with law enforcement?
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>>17434410
That variety of libertarians is niggerish in their entirety and always will be.
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>>17431711
retard
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>>17434410
THEY BURNT DOWN THE
WHOLE
F U C K I N G
COMPOUND
WITH EVERYONE INSIDE

THEY DID NOT CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN YOU FUCKING RETARD
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>>17432361
No Koresh set fire to his own compound once the statutory child rape and gunrunning was found out and he knew the jig was up
>>17434887
>uh actually it was GOOD that they bombed the occupied rowhouse because thin blue line o algo
Same shit as Waco except the victims weren't kiddydiddlers, just loud ancoms in the Philly ghetto. Retarded cops burned down the homes of hundreds and refused to pay reimbursement for decades until forced by a court
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>>17434410
If their primary concern was the well-being of the children they would have negotiated with them for the release of the children. Instead they stormed the building and then burned it down with everyone inside, because they are monsters.
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>>17434410
they did investigate

CPS cleared them TWICE
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Koresh was in deep with the militia movement and survivalists, that's why he was legally manufacturing weapons to sell at gun shows

he was building an international and domestic network
that's why they came at him so fiercely, it was part of a broader campaign by the federal government targeting the militias for infiltration and neutralization



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