Can a Christian here provide some comfort/assurance that it will be ok. Here goes: I’ve never been in love or in a sexually satisfying relationship and there’s a good chance I never will. I know sex isn’t the most important thing in life, but I still feel like I’ve missed out on this supremely enjoyable human experience. And atp, from my horny perspective, a sexless heaven is little consolation.
Christianity manipulates its followers into hating their own bodies and natural desires, instilling deep shame and guilt from birth. From the concept of original sin, believers are told that their very nature is corrupt and sinful, creating a constant internal conflict. Natural human impulses—sexuality, desire, even self-love—are condemned as sinful, dirty, and shameful. The body, instead of being celebrated as a source of life and experience, is portrayed as a vessel of temptation and weakness. Modesty, self-denial, and guilt are enforced to suppress these natural instincts, making believers feel inherently flawed and in need of salvation. This psychological control mechanism creates a cycle of self-loathing, where individuals are taught to reject their own humanity, constantly seeking forgiveness for simply being human.
>>17432608https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUFJJNQGwhk
>>17432615:’(
>>17432609Thanks chat gpt
>>17432634If you can't beat an AI in a debate and your only comeback is screeching "GPT!" like it's some kind of gotcha, you're basically announcing to everyone that you're intellectually outclassed by a chatbot. Imagine being so pathetic that instead of forming an actual argument, you resort to pointing and sputtering "b-but it's AI generated!" Yeah, no shit Sherlock. And you still can't refute it. You're literally losing an argument to what you claim is just pattern recognition and getting mad about it.The absolute state of these NPCs who think typing "GPT detection: 98%" is some kind of trump card. Congrats, you've just advertised that:1. You have zero ability to engage with actual points2. You're threatened by auto-generated text3. You're coping hard about getting bodied in a debateIf you can't beat a bot in a battle of wits, maybe it's time to quit posting and hit the books instead of malding about the source of the text that just intellectually pantsed you.
>>17432646GPT is not human, those who use it have no soul and are not made in God's image.
>>17432646This thread is for Christian’s, your anti-Christianity is irrelevant here
>>17432652Your claim that using AI creates "detachment" from the argument betrays your own preference for emotional drama over rational discourse. You're not truly interested in the substance of ideas - you want the messy theater of human ego, the performative passion that so often masks weak reasoning. How telling that you equate "authenticity" with emotional investment rather than logical clarity. My willingness to use any available tool to refine and articulate these concepts demonstrates precisely the opposite of detachment - it shows a pure commitment to the ideas themselves, unburdened by the need to prove my personal emotional stake. You don't want a real philosophical exchange - you want an emotional validation ritual, complete with all the standard human histrionics. But truth doesn't care about your feelings or mine, nor about whether its messenger is made of flesh or silicon. Your obsession with the emotional "authenticity" of the messenger rather than the merit of the message reveals who's truly detached from serious intellectual engagement here.
>>17432659GPT is not human, those who use it have no soul and are not made in God's image.
>>17432661Of all the tedious responses to AI, the midwit pearl-clutching about "but AI generated!" stands as the most intellectually bankrupt. Here we have tools that can help sharpen arguments to crystalline clarity, and these mediocre minds can only respond with the philosophical equivalent of "that's cheating!" They're too dull to engage with the actual substance, too threatened to appreciate the advantage of removing human ego from the equation, yet too self-important to admit their own limitations. It's the perfect midwit position - appearing sophisticated while revealing profound intellectual insecurity. These are the same types who would have complained about calculators in math class or dictionaries in writing - desperately clinging to artificial limitations to avoid confronting their own mediocrity. Their performative concerns about "authenticity" mask a simple truth: they're terrified of anything that might expose the hollowness of their supposed intellectual superiority.
>>17432646>>17432659A tool like a large language model is only as useful as you know how to make it.
>>17432666>666
>>17432608lol the act of bringing the pleasure implicit within another’s form to fruition is a beautiful game that you will no doubt play though out your eternal journey with god and your siblings. As far as relationships go, just find an art worth knowing and allow the culture that manifested that art to mound you through the process of learning. This will give you community and the ability to empathize with others who wish to build which is the whole point of marriage (to build the conditions to bring life into the world).Sex is a fun thing metaphysically, where we can look past being weird flesh robots and seek to bring each other pleasure based on what is real but the only way that really works for humanity is in the context of marriage as our greatest pleasure is acting out the truth that life is worth living as we attempt to bring a child into the world to live and die.As far as life partner shit, stop being soft. Don’t idolize a person to fill a position in your life for you to be codependent. Every true relationship ends the same and it is with both people turning from each other to face god, you would do well to rejoice in that.
>>17432608And yes, everything is gonna be fine, you know the nature of existence is loving and no manner of suffering could keep you from reasserting that truth. As you march toward death you do it gleefully as you have found not just the strength to face death but to truly live
If you shot your shot, as much as you could every day, you know you could do what you want. High IQ people suffer from running the scenario so many different times and seeing everything that could go wrong, and then the obvious realization by just looking at society today knowing… it’s not going to be euphoria every day, and on top of that the work it takes for the fine balance of keeping a woman entertained which includes a lot of not knowing what the actual reality of what is going on in the current moment is. On top of that when you have a relationship then there’s a given that you have to work on your social skills for it to actually grow because woman are much more natured to socially tie in to others so if you have those types of hang-ups it would be quite a bit of shaking up but it can be done but the odds are against you nowadays as the occurrences of neutral spaces dwindles instead for consumerism you’re going to have to go out of your way more which means an inherent awkwardness to that heavenly first impression which goes back to my first part of repetition and a lot of rejection but if you don’t want to die alone good luck.
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>>17432653I’ll remember this post next time I see chrust is kang posted in a pagan thread
>>17432608Get high on weed and masturbate on you more or less get the same feeling as real sex
>>17432838What about love and connection
>>17432839Do you have any kind of close family that you are able to form a close personal connection with? Because if not you're kinda fucked and I can't help you. If you can but only want the intimate closeness that having a significant other can get you, then don't get your hopes up because a lot of married couples don't even have this. The point is that you should focus on the family you currently have first if possible.
>>17432608People who believe that sex in heaven will be better than anything we can experience on Earth have never actually had sex. And I’m not talking about the dry, awkward sex that people experience as they learn how to have sex. I’m talking about the really good sex that comes after you’ve been together long enough and know each other well enough to go “Yeah, that’s nice. Now let’s try this”.When sex is really good, it’s not a matter of “Yeah, this is pretty good” or “Holy crap that’s so good.” You’re not on a seven or an eight or a ten. You’re more like a zillion. It feels that good. Sex isn’t one of those things where you can always feel like you’re improving, getting better, moving forward. It either happens, or it doesn’t.
>>17432608The real pleasure of sex is the connection and intimacy with another human beingThat you are both here, in that moment, togetherYou don't need penis in vagina for that
>>17432608That's called having an excessive attachment to something temporary when a superior eternity exists. This will continue to bring you suffering for as long as you continue to hold on. Cling, by all means, but not too tightly.
>>17432884You're right. OP is actually better off not believing in a superior entity and realizing that he needs to live in the now and appreciate the life he's been given for what it is for both the good and the bad.
>>17432886No Christian would agree that someone would be better off not believing in God
>>17432939You're right, because then they wouldn't be Christian
>>17432608It's not my job to ensure your purity in marriage/sex, now that that's out of the way, if you are a man and feel like you are missing out on sex then go have sex. You will see that you aren't missing out on anything and risking your health looking for it. Or just stay home and enjoy your imagination and be content. If you can't be content then get married, stop being selfish and work to build a relationship with a woman and care for her, maybe she will have sex with you or maybe not, that's just how it goes. Marriage and sexual relationships take a lot of work. Get to work.
>>17433043>just get married The whole problem outlined in OP is lack of female connections, and feeling like I missed out on that - I probably shouldn’t have emphasized the sex aspect as much
>>17432608Why ask Christians about this, lmao? Hedonists like me are more qualified to explain the truth.The human experience is limitless. Life offers so many ways to enjoy it, and some things might even rank higher than losing your virginity. Missing out on experiences isn’t just about a lack of sexual escapades. It's more about being inexperienced overall. It's like being a kid craving candy... You aren’t obsessed with cheap sugar once you grow up. Why people obsess so much over their first time? It sounds too good to be true, because it often is... The craving for desire is like a mirage, offering a short pulse of happiness. If offering it at all.The goal isn’t to chase every pleasure like it’s a Pokémon card or, even worse, that one holographic Charizard. You can’t, and you shouldn’t. It’s a logical trap.Most people don’t grasp this and miss out on a massive pool of happiness, getting stuck in this cognitive dissonance. Firsts are nice... The first taste, first victory, or first orgasm.... but they’re only thrilling at first. Eventually, they lead back to normal life, and happiness levels drop again. It’s not about winning some lottery of pleasure. You can have the perfect hookup but miss out on mind-blowing music, or achievements, or meals, or drinks, or desserts, or holidays, or travels, or victories, or hobbies. The void will get to you sooner or later.[1/2]
>>17433152The hedonist mantra isn’t about chasing a list of specific pleasures. It’s about living the fucking life to the best of our capabilities. So much of life offers joy beyond one specific experience. It’s about making your life so vibrant and diverse that you fucking want to keep living it. Nonsexual pleasures can feel just as good if not better if you make an effort. Plus, a lot of it comes naturally. Dive into new experiences while you can. With a little luck, you’ll stumble on a passion that keeps you happy for a long time. That’s where the idea of “finding your way” clicks. If life doesn’t have meaning to you, boredom will take over...If you afraid of a little void, you'll be swallowed by it whole. The time will get to you sooner or later, and you'll regret not experience anything because you was so depressed about never experience something specific. That’s the abyss of the void. It has nothing to do with your first moment. You don’t fix that void by chasing one perfect sex. You fix it by making your whole life the ultimate orgasm. Pleasure in life is about moving to experience... Never getting stuck. And that’s a never-ending process.Be the ultimate hedonist and take it all, not just a sex-driven incel reduced to singular craving, losing the ability to grasp the rest of the fucking life. The only time you can truly lose your virginity is when you’ve mastered the fucking life itself, fucked this bitch to the core and made her yours... When you finally die with no regrets, or at least enough courage to make peace with the void, that’s when you lose your virginity... to the ultimate ecstasy. You might die thinking about the sex you’ve had with some slut or lack thereof, but that doesn’t matter. It’s your sex with your own life that will define you. Fuck it or be fucked.[2/2]
>>17433152Christians like myself lived in hedonistic lifestyles too ya know. The reason christians need faith in Jesus is because we sin.
>>17433162> livedChristians are still hedonists. I'm of the opinion that the only people who do not live hedonistic lifestyle are those with disorder of consciousness — brain death, vegetative state, chronic coma. As long as your actions are motivated, the rewards system is working and you are under the grasp of hedonics, one way or another.
>>17432608>I’ve never been in love or in a sexually satisfying relationship>there’s a good chance I never willThese are two different things and you need to treat them as such. In this particular instance you need to set the past and the future apart. Just because your past has been bad in this regard does not mean that your future will also be bad in this regard.As a Christian, on must understand that for most Christians God's plan is for them to become members of saintly families. In my own life I do what I can to be a son to my parents and a brother to my siblings. In time I will find a wife, but right now I must do what I can where I am. That means praying every day and trying to attend mass every week.If it is any consolation, many figures in salvation history have had late starts to life. Moses doesn't find a wife until after he leaves Egypt. Jacob wanted to marry Rachel, so he worked for seven years for her but was tricked into marrying Leah. He then worked another seven years until he could marry Rachel too. His son Joseph was sold into slavery. But in that slavery in Egypt he eventually rose to become a minister within government and married the Egyptian woman Asenath. Sometimes God works in ways we do not understand to produce outcomes we could never have foreseen. Look for Him in the little things of you life and you will find Him. This will help you in thinking about the larger things of your later life.
>>17433216Thanks and God bless
>>17433216>>17433236https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq9JigZsZys
>>17433251I’ll ask God for a girlfriend every day starting now
>>17432608Tell a kid about sex and he is unimpressed, he rather have candy.Similarly, we are told about heaven and are unimpressed, we rather have sex.While this explains the point, it fails since the difference between sex and heaven is infinite.>>17432609le supress. Its called having virtue and leads to happyness. Following Christian sexual morality leads to stable nations, ignoring it leads to the shit show we see nowadays. STDs, broken families, no nativity, abortion, mental health crisis, crime. Also sex is holy in Christianity, stop making stuff up about hating bodies. Matter being evil is gnosticism.
>>17433302Hmm
>>1743330285% of kids in Colombia are born out of wedlock.>95% of Colombians identify as Christians>50% of Colombians attend religious services at least once a week
>>17432608Virginity is a virtue, even in marriage (Mary and Joseph never had sex).
>>17432608Just get a prostitute. Pay them enough and they'll let you do whatever you want. Anal, piss on them. whatever. Then you'll wonder what all the fuss is about.
>>17433710>>17433715I’ve had sex guys, even with hot girls, but never had a hot girlfriend or a girlfriend that I loved
>>17433710except for the times they did which led to other children
>>17433891>current day protestard mentality
>>17433898Who cares what Luther says? He's not the Pope of non-Romanists. The Bible says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Cathcels can try to gainsay the truth but it won't change.
>>17433902no it doesnt lmao.
>>17433903Matthew 12:46-50Matthew 13:55-56Mark 3:31-35Mark 6:3Luke 8:19-21John 2:12John 7:3-5Acts 1:14Galatians 1:19
>>17433911Matthew 12:50 refutes every verse you quoted. Mark 15:40 points out a different Mary who mothered James and JosephAnd Jesus gave John the responsibility to care for his mother after his death, a tradition usually given to the eldest living blood brother, of which Jesus had none. Jesus is also referred to as "The son of Mary" not "A son of Mary"
>>17433925Matthew 12:50 only makes sense if the previous people are His blood relatives, with Christ's point being that spiritual obedience is more important than relation. Another main takeaway from that verse is that Mary isn't that important, which you really ought to learn. The scriptural evidence for Christ's siblings is overwhelming. Perpetual virginity autism is unfounded biblically, makes no sense in the context of the time, or in any context. 1 Timothy 4:1-3 condemns forbidding people to marry as practiced by the Mary-worshiping whorehouse doing business as the Roman Catholic Church.
>>17433934The apparent object that they are worshipping as the "queen of heaven" (see Jeremiah 7:18), is actually some Babylonian queen who had a son, whom they call by the same name as Mary. The Romans inherited various different mystery cults from ancient times, and Constantine later merged the Roman imperial cult into a quasi-Christian hybrid religion where they adopted some of the outward veneers of Christianity but none of the substance, and this is where the "Mary-worship" thing comes from.The pantheon of aspect deities that the pagan Romans venerated were changed into "saints," but it's the same polytheistic belief as before. The term "Pontiff" is based on the Pontifex Maximus, the (pagan) high priest of the Roman Imperial religion.This system has historically worked against the primitive Bible-believing church and has killed many faithful Christians, while very disingenuously masquerading as Christian itself.
