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>>17432798Nixon won 1960Tilden won 1872
>>17432799>Tilden won 1872Wrong year, you're talking about 1876. Anyways, while what Republicans did was incredibly sketchy, can't you argue that they just unstole the steal Democrats did in Southern states by suppressing the votes of African American Republicans via violence and intimidation?
Lincoln lost 1964
>>17432807NTA illiterate former slaves have no business exercising the franchise in a responsible republic.
>>17432807Greeley would've won 1872 if the Deep State hadn't assassinated him
>>17432798the election of 1980 was stole. carter won in a landslide
>>17432962>literal jim crow argument ignored.
>>17433142>still not refuted
>>174329621: that's great that you think that, but those men were given the right to vote, so Democrats were trying to steal the election by suppressing their votes that they had the right to cast.2: they were illiterate because they were former slaves and their owners didn't teach them to read, how was that their fault? And it's not like more education would have made them vote differently, the Republicans were the obvious choice for them because they were trying to protect their rights with Reconstruction while the Democrats wanted to allow the Southern states to oppress them
>>17433188A bit silly to talk about rights and legality when you invade and occupy a region and impose fanatical laws to overturn the social order. Enfranchising a large disaffected, property-deprived population is detrimental to a representative government. Adding in the racial conflict only worsens the tensions. There's no way that was going to end well and conservative Whiggish Republicans like Thurlow Weed, Hayes, etc. recognized that.
>>17432798Nixon had great comeback in 1968 after 1960 and 1962.
>>17433207So how do you believe Reconstruction should have been handled?
>>17433760The abolition of slavery without compensation is fine given the circumstances of 1865. No enactment of the 14th and 15th amendments. Colonization back to Africa or somewhere in Central America isn't happening so best case scenario is an orderly transition to sharecropping and segregation without an intermediary conflict period. Sterilization would be viable by the early 20th century as the most practical means of further ameliorating the problem. Very difficult to get everything to go this well so I'm not surprised at how things happened. If only short-sighted traders had never imported a massive slave population in the first place.
>>17433802So you'd use sterilization as a form of genocide? This is dark, but im glad you oppose slavery at least
>>17434257Not that different from what the Indian Health Service did in the 60s-70s, Fujimori's Peru in the 90s, and actions in a certain northwest province of China.
>>17434287Those are bad things
>>17434380Not from the perspective of the ones who did those things.
>>17434383Okay, but what is YOUR perspective?
>>17432798>McGoverndid people make fun of his name back then?
>Pinckney votes all in the northeast and not the southThat's surprising
>>17435728That's because he was a federalist
>>17435728The south liked Jefferson
>>17435526That population control can be a reasonable policy.
>>17438034Genocide (which is what sterilization based on race would be )is immoral.
>>17438358What framework are you using to come to that conclusion?
