No, the dome of Mosques has nothing to do with Persian Zoroastrian influence!A lot of detractors will lie and say that the mosque design especially the dome has been Persian Zoroastrian influence. THAT IS A LIEThe al-Aqsa mosque created way before the Abbasids (Abbasids had influence from pagan Zoroastrians) has a huge dome and classic mosque design, old mosques in Africa and spain had the same thing, Way before Abbasids era where the area become littered with Zoroastrian influence.Also Islamic art is all about calligraphy of Prophet and Allah, and geometry based on the quran in an abstract form (8 point star etc..) has nothing to do with poop eating zoros influence The only thing Zoroastrian elites who adopted for power introduce during Abbasid era to Islam is hadiths, tafirs with animal urine drinking, child marriage, and dhimmitude, nothing else, the mosque design existed way before the Abbasids and Zoroastrian infestation infiltration with hadith/tafsirs.
>>17433693Zoroastrianism > IslamSimple as. The Muslim Golden age was a Persian Golden age
>>17433726>Zoroastrianism > IslamEating shit and drinking animal feces and inheriting women, than be my guest.Islamic art don't need golden age shit eaters.
>>17433730You're brown
>>17433730filthy dumb muslim scum
>>17433693Sassanian elements like domes, iwans (large vaulted halls), and intricate stucco work were adopted and adapted by Islamic architects.Early Islamic structures such as the Great Mosque of Samarra and the Dome of the Rock show Sassanian influences.This is the scholarly consensus.
>>17433741>You're brownShiter eating zoros are literally brown and are jsut bleached pajiëëits. literally.
>>17433756>This is the scholarly consensus.Nope anti-Muslim propaganda. Shit eaters don't have minarets.mosques uniquely build with cube budlings with dome on top of it, rather it being the whole roof, and minarets
>>17433759Esl, read an English book
>>17433756Yes, there are also Zoroastrian materials that play a clear role and/or are taken up in Islam. The Night Journey and the Buraq has origins in Zoroastrarianism and can be seen in the Arta Viraf, some of the debates about amount of prayers and some fiqh .Starts around the 8:00 minute mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxtRKFgfmV4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu-RzwfTY7E&t=254s
>>17433726kek
>>17433693Dome of the rock architecture was more Inspired by Byzantines than Persians, see the interior, the exterior was covered with Byzantine style gold mosaics too before it was renovated to Persian style blue tiles covering during Ottoman time
>>17433998I am thinking the same thing. it reminds me of the Umayyad Mosque, the one that built on a Syro-Arab Byzantine Church that is stated to have the head of John the Baptist in it.
>>17434002Yup. It's strange to think that early Muslims at least until Umayyad period are basically culturally crypto Byzantines
>>17433998>Dome of the rock architectureAm just using dome of the rock as an example.Byzantines domes are part of the roof, while Muslim mosques dones are on top of the roof.And the design is based on Islamic art and geometry, look at the design plan on the corner
>>17434022That is not necessarily the case. There are sub styles like that. Byznatines, here being the wide category including multiple ethnic groups had multiple types of pendentive and squinches. They are commonly used by Syro-Byzantines.
It helps to remember that early Islam is basically taking up Byzantine and Syraic infrastructure and often developing from earlier literary materials too. It is not too surprising that they would be taking over such buildings or copying them. Besides some Zoroastrian influences, other materials were negotiated. This is especially the case as interactions with Syraic christians and Jews increased, Muslims kinda just reformulated some of their religion. Early on the references and and the adoption of buildings were mainly aimed at some Arabic tribes but not effective with other populations. These two videos explore Greco-roman medicine in the Koran and the story of the Seven Sleepers. First two videos are academic but the other two just provide some examples. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4lFqAvahMEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgranlyX7BE&t=17s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ss6ljWI0achttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4EIapJ7Ivk [Embed]
>>17433693>PersianI thought it was Byzantine in origin, the Hagia Sophia has one and it wasn't added like the minarets
>>17434045>I thought it was Byzantine in origin, the Hagia Sophia has one and it wasn't added like the minaretsI was not talking about the ugly building that is hagia sophia.F off. Am taking about Muslim art and religious calligraphy/geometry and even design history, which poop eating zoros try to claim to have influence over.
>>17434045It is worth noting that minarets also have a Syro-Byzantine origin. They have origins in the practices of styties. This an icon of a later depiction as found in an Icon. A Christian stylite is a type of ascetic monk who practices extreme devotion by living atop a pillar or column, often in isolated or public settings. This practice, which began in the 5th century with figures like St. Simeon Stylites. They often would recite poetry or parts of the Bible for the public.
>>17434048The Sassanians did influence i lattice and repetitive patterns in their stucco work, textiles, and ceramics. A good example is the Early examples of star motifs, which became iconic in Islamic art, can be traced back to Sassanian designs.Muslims did change it though.The Sassanians frequently used stylized representations of plants and animals in symmetrical compositions, emphasizing balance . These were transformed into abstract geometric forms in Islamic art due to prohibitions on depictions of living things. Pic is an example with a link describing it.https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/322639
>>17434052What are you babbling about, no it does not.2. And Byzantine (whole thing) has origins from rome/greek pagan of the west>>17434055>The Sassanians did influence i lattice and repetitive patterns in their stucco work, textiles, and ceramics. A good example is the Early examples of star motifsWhat you showed show nothing, and stop spreading lies. The Islamic star (8 point) and geometry /calligraphy is based on abstract of God based on the quran of 8 angels, not shit eaters.
>>17434060The Eight Point Star actually has origins in Byzantine art. It pops up frequently actually in borders of illuminated manuscripts, on floors, celiinings and more. Here is an example from Byzantine Church in Coptic Italy. In fact, it often represents the hypostatic union to this day in Coptic and Antiochian Orthodox Churches. For reference this Eight Point start appears above Jesus as Incarnation in a crib.
Sorry for the error, I meant Byzantine, Italy, not Coptic Italy. Either way there is a heavy syraic influence on Islam. Minarets were commonly used in Syriac Christianity and Islam kept them in the form of minarets. They played a similar role basically, minus the ascetic practices of the earlier Christian practices. Chapter Five describes the relation between the stylites and minarets. The whole academic book is relevant though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBCr_U8wGOE&t=2839shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6wZ9YmxpaQ
>>17433730Muslims inherit wives too bud
>>17434014I mean it makes sense religiously why they would try to ape Christian Rome. The Quran was written before Arabs had a geopolitical reason to side with one empire over the other - but it very clearly sees the Christian Romans as cultural mentors over the non-Abrahamic Persians. Which is why early mosques ape Byzantine styles.Then once the Persians all became Muslims, Islam became a Persianate religion (even Sunni Islam is Persianate at its core, Shia before the 16th century was extremely Egyptian)
>NOOOOOOO YOU JUST CANNOT POINT THE FACT ANOTHER RELIGION ARCHITECTURE INFLUENCED MY RELIGION ARCHITECTUREWhy is this an issue again?
>>17434244Many Muslims unironically think all of modern Islam as it exists in 2025 came fully formed in 6000 BCE when the universe was created by Jewish magic man in the sky
>>17434247That's just straight up retarded. Nothing goes 100% unaltered and uninfluenced through a millennia, be it culture, society, language or religion
>>17434270Yeah except to innovate is considered evil per their religion - it's called bid'ah
