If God isn't real, why do you go on living? What are you living for? >I just doWhat are you, an animal? You must be if you're satisfied with that answer. Come on, face reality. Answer me. What the fuck are you putting your faith in?
>>17438577> What the fuck are you putting your faith in?Just like trannies need to dilate so too do you need to put your faith in something. For those of us who are not defective, there is no need at for faith at all.
That reason would not work too well. A theist assumably still has preferences and beliefs not following their religion. Like preferring white musk as a cologne or liking pizza. There are multiple accounts of the meaning of life and the question is what do you mean by meaning, do you mean meaning as in the cause, the value, the purpose, the meaning, etc. It is not obvious that a theist account could necessarily accommodate these all either.
>>17438582You have revealed the crux of the issue.>there is no needYou perceive that all of your needs are addressed. You have food, shelter, even comforts and luxuries and entertainment. You live like a king would just a few hundred years ago.This is a lie though. Even kings faced death. And so will you. Nothing will stop this.
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>>17438590>Even kings faced death. And so will you. Nothing will stop this.Least of all spending wasting my energy worshipping a dead carpenter of dubious historical veracity.
>>17438582>>17438590But even death is an extreme example. You know deep down that you are unsatisfied. You suffer, you want more, you feel empty, even with all the entertainment in the world you get bored. You take for granted your riches and there is always something you wish you had, to fill that hole in your soul. You buried your conscience, too, which is another factor that cannot be accounted for by the secularist.
>>17438601>But even death is an extreme example. You know deep down that you are unsatisfied. You suffer, you want more, you feel empty, even with all the entertainment in the world you get bored.Most of the Jesus freaks I know are bored too. What's your point?>You take for granted your riches and there is always something you wish you had, to fill that hole in your soul. You buried your conscience, too, which is another factor that cannot be accounted for by the secularist.My conscience is beyond mere Christian mortality, as it is concerned with actual notions of good and evil, rather than blackmail by supernatural creatures.
>>17438577>If God isn't real, why do you go on living? What are you living for?To figure out the truth.
>>17438615how do you believe in "objective good and evil" when you're an atheist lol
>>17438628In terms of moral goodness the same way theists do actually. Whether moral goodness connects to the meaning of life is not obvious though. Classical Theism for example tends to equate metaphysical goodness with the meaning of life with ethical goodness being reduced to that . In this sense, atheists actually can allow for more types of good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsYsNUmlz0I&t=1094s
If you want to get really precise, they can hold that moral facts are simply natural facts, for example meaningless pain is morally bad because it is bad because of the nature of the organisms we are. They could also hold that moral facts are not natural facts. They reflect the way cognition or the mind organizes reality, it could be like math for example. Below are some examples of metaethical views.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMGNfCrUqrs&list=PLqK-cZS_wviDkzVDUAw-AeZHrmt5mq8wB&index=17&t=1shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO_R8gPJllI&list=PLqK-cZS_wviDkzVDUAw-AeZHrmt5mq8wB&index=15
>>17438635>In terms of moral goodness the same way theists do actually.you don't have an ultimate arbiter to dictate the worthiness of a soul deserving of either eternal bliss or damnationnot watching that video, atheist morality can only be relative in the strictest sense.
>>17438615We know this life is faulty, and a pale shadow of what we are meant for.It also depends on who you are referring to, because most "Christians" are not actually Christians, from the standpoint of the majority of Christians in history.My point is that you have no answers. It would be naive to suggest the answer does not exist; you have just not found it.The lives of the Saints are attestations of the healing power of the Church, and the reality of Christ. You should go to an Eastern Orthodox monastery.
It is also not obvious that the existence of God creates values or imparts any value moral or otherwise on humans. We could imagine a classical theist God who creates everything but sets reality up towards some specific purpose like a kitten waking up in the sun. The rest of reality could be just a set up to that event and that event alone being good. This specifically happens if we hold that purpose and intention are somehow the meaning of life. This especially becomes a problem if you try to hold that things like God's purposes are unknowable. Below is a philosophy panel talking about this possibility and another on moral realism in general.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqupGKqcPck&t=621shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znFJ4a9tGEA&t=19s
>>17438577>Jewish carpenter drug addict doesn't have magic powers>Therefore life has no meaningWhat!? What a baffling insinuation.
>>17438577but God is real.
>>17438648>We know this life is faulty, and a pale shadow of what we are meant for.So then I can just skip the "Jesus" thing because I'm already there.>It also depends on who you are referring to, because most "Christians" are not actually Christians, from the standpoint of the majority of Christians in history.How about this - you get all your little friends to agree on the right way to be a Christian. You can all do it in some chill place in Ethiopia or whenever. The rest of us are just going to live our lives without you until you all agree, okay?>My point is that you have no answers. It would be naive to suggest the answer does not exist; you have just not found it.And I'm okay with that. It's not so painful I need to give in to delusion.>The lives of the Saints are attestations of the healing power of the Church, and the reality of Christ. You should go to an Eastern Orthodox monastery.You first, buddy, I'll see you there.
It is worth noting that it is possible to state there are no moral facts but there is still ethics and morality. It just means that there are no moral properties exactly. It could reflect practical reason or something of that sort. It is much like being an anti-realist about the physical world. Maybe reality is not ultimately physical but it is some other property. It does not change much otherwise.
It is also possible to have ultimate values as something one can seek or not as well. Buddhism is a good example of that type of view. One can practice Buddhism a way to realize the ultimate value of ending dukkha in all its forms or one could do whatever practical reason compels you to do. In this type of view certain other values like Buddhist ethics can be a tool for removing certain types of consequences or achieving that value. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MddC6LAsk28&t=1211s
Some views of the meaning life can claim that the meaning of life is of a type of value different from ethics. That is one can be ethical but not necessarily have a meaningful life. It does not necessarily mean a meaningful life is an unethical life but just that the criteria for meaning is different than being ethical. For example this could explain why two morally good people, who share the same job may not share a similar a meaning of life in that job. Here are some materials explaining this view.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4RYX5gapshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cagClgae1k&t=7s
>>17438681I already go as regularly as I am able. It's like an otherworldly peace descends on those couple dozen acres. You say you haven't given into delusion, but it would be delusional for me to deny the reality of God given what I know from experience to be real. If you are honest I know you will find the answer. But in the end it is your choice - just know that you are worshipping yourself, and the consequences of this extend beyond you. Just don't lie to yourself and believe you are satisfied.
>>17438577He is real. And I am grateful for his willingness to give everyone of us a chance to perfect our souls in this world so to be worthy to be one with him in the next—and because we can never truly perfect ourselves, I am thankful he was willing to offer a perfect sacrifice for us so we can truly have hope of that chance at eternal joy.Christ is King.
>>17438640>for example meaningless pain is morally bad because it is bad because of the nature of the organisms we are. arbitrary
It is important to note that conceptually classical theists who state God has a role to play with the meaning of life don't think one's meaning just is fixed by God. This would threaten God's goodness and take away any meaning of one's life. Instead, there is a lot more going on and some relationship between the individual and God.
>>17438691It's supreme narcissism to think that your feelings are evidence about the nature of reality.>>17438692>Perfect>Tortures animals for fun>Throws random tantrums>Refuses to provide evidence (lies)Uhm, a random dude from the street would have been closer to perfect.
>>17438691>I already go as regularly as I am able. It's like an otherworldly peace descends on those couple dozen acresI think you should consider spending all of your time there.>You say you haven't given into delusion, but it would be delusional for me to deny the reality of God given what I know from experience to be realYou realize that this is what being deluded feels like, right?>If you are honest I know you will find the answer.I'd really prefer to find a punchline at this point.>But in the end it is your choice - just know that you are worshipping yourself, and the consequences of this extend beyond you.One of the very few advantages to worshipping yourself is that the consequences are limited to you alone. I'd avoid worshipping anyone else who might get mad if I were you.>Just don't lie to yourself and believe you are satisfied.What say you to the Christians in my family who are not satisfied? Why should I be any better off with his Jeezlie Creezlieness than they are?
>>17438691If the claim is that the goal is some satisfaction or pleasure in worshiping God, then technically God is the not the purpose of life but that enjoyment is. Same if you believe heaven or some paradise is the goal. In this sense, you are actually closer to an egoist of some form.
>>17438701>It's supreme narcissism to think that your feelings are evidence about the nature of reality.I never mentioned feelings. Peace is visible. But that is not the extent of my experiences. Like I said, the more you read the lives of the Saints, you get an idea of how Christ heals people. No secularist or scientist can explain it. Pride blinds people to miracles. It's why I didn't start telling you stories, because what would they matter to you? But I know that you will have your own stories if you suck it up and go.
>>17438702>One of the very few advantages to worshipping yourself is that the consequences are limited to you alone.They aren't. The consequences are both physical (emotional, practical, social, etc) and metaphysical.
>>17438702>What say you to the Christians in my family who are not satisfied?Are they Orthodox?Are they working out their salvation with fear and trembling?Are they putting their own humility as their highest goal, in the service of Christ the Living God?The Spiritual Life is not just an affirmation by words.
>>17438709Okay, let's subject these saints to empirical scrutiny. Btw, how come you haven't video-taped yourself drinking cyanide? After all, Jesus explicitly tells his followers that they can drink poison and be unharmed. (As an atheist with an HS diploma, I must warn against the health effects of cyanide.)
>>17438713>The spiritual life is not just an affirmation by wordsO-ow, looks like heresy.
>>17438703That is not the claim, because you're right, that would be self-centered. You won't get very far in the Christian Spiritual Life with that mindset. Most people say this in the Lord's prayer, but it doesn't mean they understand it."Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven"It means my will is forfeit willingly, because I know my iniquity and selfishness and unworthiness, and I know God's wisdom and love and mercy.
>>17438711>They aren't. The consequences are both physical (emotional, practical, social, etc) and metaphysical.The physical consequences are my problem, not yours. The metaphysical ones are ake.>>17438713>Are they Orthodox?I don't fucking know, man, I just know that jesus freaks seeme to have no existential advantage over anyone else. That's something you should fix if you want to blackmail everyone into being one of you.>Are they working out their salvation with fear and trembling?See above. Don't know, don't care.>Are they putting their own humility as their highest goal, in the service of Christ the Living God?I think if you post online for attention, humility is a lost cause.>The Spiritual Life is not just an affirmation by words.So why don't you put down your (let's be real here) phone, stop posting online, and go live that spiritual life?
>>17438714For the same reason that I eat two meals a day, while St. Anthony the Great (also St. Mary of Egypt) survived in the desert off of a few loaves of bread per year. Professing with my lips that I believe Christ fully and will protect me in all things, is different than actually believing that consciously and subconsciously. In short, my faith is not that strong. That's the goal of the Spiritual Life.
>>17438721The way to think about it conceptually, is that the meaning of life would be realizing some dependency relationship with God as creator with all that entails metaphysically speaking.
>>17438719heresy according to who? The Church is the arbiter of what is and isn't heresy.
>>17438723Sounds like you're a liar who says one thing but actually believes the other.
>>17438577>What are you, an animal?Yep./thread
>>17438722This is the first post that was almost entirely in bad faith, and I won't respond to it.>The physical consequences are my problem, not yours.This is objectively and demonstrably false.
>>17438701I will pray for your troubled soul. The master of this world is your enemy. He is all our enemy. And he has you in his grip.
>>17438728That makes two of us. I am only a liar insofar as the ignorance of the full depth of what I profess, with the sincere hope of attaining knowledge of that depth. But I also know that this won't be complete in this life, and to try to punch above my spiritual weight is vanity.
>>17438738Well I suppose viewing Jesus as evil is one way to try salvage christianity.
>>17438739I am not a liar. I don't make claims for things which I have no evidence for.
>>17438725If I'm understanding you correctly, then this is accurate. St. Athanasius the Great famously said "God became man, so that man could become god"That's a bold statement at face value, but what he actually means is the concept of Theosis; unity with Christ. Him sharing with us His divinity through grace. This unity is expressed in the Eucharist, for instance.
>>17438723This is btw why I utterly hate Christianity. It's just all lies and liars. You come to this thread professing to know some ultimate truth, but the moment you'd have to actually trust this claim of your's you chicken out.
>>17438742If you think you aren't a liar, then you are in fact lying to yourself. Only pride blinds you. I think you'd find a hard time convincing anyone that you have never lied.
>>17438745I was completely honest. You just didn't like my answer. I told you that I am a flawed individual, and it would be vanity for me to test God knowing I am not a Saint.
>>17438750The NT epistles are addressed to the saints of God. If you are not a saint, you are not a part of the church of God.
>>17438753This is incorrect, and it's an issue of translation in some protestant circles. Even the KJV states that the addressed is to "those called to be Saints"in other words, not yet. That's our calling.
>>17438750Yeah yeah, always for other people to accept your spiritual poison, but never for you to inconvenience yourself.
>>17438754I have assurance. You don't and worship idols instead.
>>17438747Where did I lie? I understand that for you it's hard to imagine someone whose brain doesn't have the concept of lying.
>>17438762You're talking to an Orthodox Christian, and accusing me of not inconveniencing myself. This is profound ignorance.
>>17438769So which of these rituals you do to annoy yourself produces results we can empirically verify?
Holy fuck the state of christcucks and their turbosperg writing style. Every single post reads like they think they're dropping the most profound philosophical truth bomb ever conceived by man. Pure cringe watching them try to sound deep with their flowery emotional language and gay-ass metaphors, like some 14-year-old who just discovered their first bible verse. These absolute mouthbreathers really think adding seven adjectives about "divine celestial blessed holy sacred pure truth" makes their room temperature IQ takes sound intelligent. Pure second-hand embarrassment watching them type like they're writing fucking Shakespeare every time they regurgitate the same NPC programming they've been spouting for centuries. Imagine being such a turbosperg you can't make a single point without turning it into some overwrought emotional sermon complete with dramatic pauses and rhetorical questions. Maximum kek at these subhumans thinking their purple prose makes their medieval fairy tales sound more convincing.
>>17438763This is also ignorance of the Christian disposition.https://classicalchristianity.com/2012/10/26/st-basil-on-icons/Learn where your beliefs come from before you pick and choose what you agree with, vs. what God has revealed through the Church.
>>17438577>If God isn't real, why do you go on living?Listen to yourself. If there's no jew in the sky there's no point living. Pathetic.
>>17438777Basil was a vessel of wrath who is in hell now for leading you and countless other fools to whore after strange gods.
>>17438768I think you are entirely capable of excusing yourself, or through ignorance, believing you don't lie. This is just not the common reality for all people though. Again, it's not just me you're attempting to convince with this.
Christcucks are nothing but spineless dogs, groveling at the feet of an imaginary master they’ve invented to justify their pathetic existence. They live on their knees, drooling for approval and begging for scraps of salvation from a god that doesn’t hear them because it doesn’t exist. Their obedience isn’t faith—it’s servility, the mark of creatures too weak, too broken, to face reality without the crutch of their delusions. They’re not just slaves; they’re willing slaves, pathetic animals licking the boot of an illusion.Every prayer, every act of worship, is a whimper from these mindless mutts, desperate to please a master that isn’t there. They fear punishment like beaten dogs and dream of rewards they’ll never see, chasing their tails in circles of guilt and self-abasement. They are not men—they are cowards in chains, too gutless to break free, too stupid to realize they hold the leash. Their ‘god’ doesn’t rule them; their weakness does. Christcucks are the lowest form of life, crawling in the dirt they were born for, obedient to nothing but their own failure.
>>17438772Are you talking about healing a person from wickedness, or basic supernatural miracles?In the case of the former, you need just read the lives of the Saints, or like I said, go to a monastery.For the latter, you wouldn't believe them even if you did verify them. You can come up with any excuse to satisfy your disbelief. There are many. Do some research, it's not hard to find them. But people in the time of Christ who saw Him resurrected still didn't believe. You won't unless you honestly desire the truth and are open to it. Like I said earlier as well, saying this and meaning this are two different things.
>>17438775Swearing doesn't make you sound convincing or relatable.
>>17438781Indeed... I wonder how your schismatic sect justifies this type of judgement, as if you were God.Regardless, what you say is not what the majority of Christians over the last 2000 years have believed. You are an extreme minority opinion, and your authority is not equal to the Apostles.
>>17438789Utterly emasculated and broken, Christcucks are the lowest form of existence—weak, subservient, and consumed by cowardice. Stripped of any semblance of strength or honor, they resort to deception and subversion as their only tools, slithering in the shadows like vermin. Unable to stand as men, they paint themselves as victims, whining about persecution, while manipulating others with their hollow cries for salvation. They are parasites, preying on the strong, dragging everything noble into their pit of weakness and decay.These spineless slaves masquerade as saviors, but their 'salvation' is nothing but a mask for their own pathetic inadequacy. Too broken to rise above, they claw at the ankles of those stronger than them, poisoning everything they touch with their lies and servile morality. Their every move is an act of cowardice, their every word a pathetic plea for validation. Christcucks don’t build, they don’t lead—they infect, corrupt, and destroy, all while groveling in the filth of their own delusions. They are a disease, unworthy of pity, respect, or even contempt.
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>>17438791Any man who preaches the word of God is a prophet. The vast majority of "Christians" are headed straight for hell.
>>17438799Muslims claim a prophet, too... this sounds familiar.
>>17438796Christcucks are the ultimate embodiment of failure, crawling in the dirt and calling it glory. Their entire religion is a pathetic story born from defeat—a god humiliated, tortured, and killed, yet they delude themselves into calling it victory. They worship weakness, revel in their own subjugation, and cling to martyrdom as a badge of honor because they are too broken to face reality. These wretches grovel before an image of failure and convince themselves they’re the chosen ones, all while sinking deeper into irrelevance and decay.Even as they choke on their own humiliation, they lie to themselves, pretending they’re triumphant. Their every prayer, every act of worship, is a celebration of their defeat, a desperate attempt to rewrite their misery as divine purpose. They are losers of the highest order, parasites clinging to a corpse of a religion, feeding on delusion because they can’t stomach the truth of their insignificance. Christcucks don’t just lose—they revel in losing, wallowing in self-pity and deceit, the perfect slaves to a god of failure.
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>>17438815>worship Jewish god>read Jewish holy book>follow Jewish messiah>believe in Jewish end times prophecy>base entire religion on Jewish tradition>"but we totally hate Jews guys!"Most mentally stable christcucks on /his/. Imagine being so deep in cognitive dissonance you spend all day seething about Jews while building your entire identity around Jewish religion.These narcissistic parasites can't handle their total dependence on Jewish theology so they cope by attacking Jews. Notice how they're always the ones sliding threads into antisemitic rants? Pure psychological projection - so triggered by their religion's Jewish roots they have to constantly prove how "anti-Jewish" they are.The absolute state of these frauds - larping as crusaders while literally worshipping a Jewish god. Can't decide if they want to claim Jews control everything or pretend Christianity has nothing to do with Judaism. Peak theological autism.
>>17438822Christianity isn't an intellectual assent. It is reality. The sun rises and sets no matter what foolishness you decide to believe. This is why the pagan Greeks and Romans could not deny Christ. It's why St. John the Apostle was exiled to Patmos instead of martyred, like the rest of the Apostles. He literally could not be killed.
>>17438865For centuries, the Christcucks wielded the might of oppressive regimes, enforcing their dogmas with the power of the state, the threat of violence, and the weight of social control. They built their empires on fear, suppressing dissent, stifling creativity, and dictating morality through rigid hierarchies. Cloaked in the illusion of divine authority, they sought to dominate every aspect of life, ensuring their brittle worldview went unchallenged. Their rule was not one of faith, but of force—a hollow empire sustained by the power to punish and the manipulation of the weak.Yet, stripped of their governmental backing, they have been exposed as moralizing cowards, incapable of defending their beliefs without the machinery of oppression. They cling desperately to outdated rhetoric, appealing to authority that no longer exists and relying on the goodwill of the very systems they once sought to control. Without their iron grip on power, they reveal their true nature as useful idiots—tools for other forces, unable to adapt or survive in a world where chaos reigns and ideas thrive on merit, not coercion.
>>17438805>jesus stripper.jpgwhy are you people so obsessed with sex, no one cares about your fetishes, stop waving it around, it isn't "edgy", it doesn't actually help your argument, there's no way I'm reading that wall of text now
>>17438918>claims intellectual superiority by bragging about not reading>"I win by keeping eyes closed!">literally proud of willful ignorance>"can't prove me wrong if I refuse to read!">peak christcuck programmingMost intellectually honest christian on /his/ - so absolutely btfo he thinks refusing to read makes him smart. Imagine being so deep in narcissistic cope you brag about blocking out criticism.Pure NPC behavior:>gets exposed>switches to "not reading" mode>declares victory>continues seething>thinks this makes him look goodImagine telling on yourself this hard. "I maintain my delusions by refusing to read anything that challenges them!" Absolutely devastating self-own from most self-aware christcuck.
>>17438930stop with the ai shit and making us look bad you fucking insufferable sperg faggot
>>17438934The absolute state of christcucks and their fragile psyche. These crybaby control freaks are so psychologically weak they literally can't handle the existence of different viewpoints. Pure narcissistic personality disorder - desperate for validation, terrified of shame, and completely unable to process any challenge to their authority. That's why they always sperg out and start threatening anyone who doesn't submit to their worldview. Deep down they're just scared little bitches LARPing as moral authorities because they can't handle their own thoughts. The most revealing part is how they completely fall apart when even neutral observers disagree with them - their whole power fantasy relies on everyone playing along, so the moment a single normie anon points out their bullshit, they're suddenly outnumbered and their entire facade crumbles. Imagine being so psychologically fragile that one random poster saying "nah" can destabilize your entire belief system. Maximum kek watching their paper-thin egos shatter into a million pieces the moment someone breaks their circle jerk.
>>17438948i am not a christcuck, you genuinely just have aspergers
>>17438954Watch how these Christian narcissists treat anyone outside their control - pure mask-off hatred and contempt while claiming moral superiority. To your face they'll preach love and salvation, but the moment you reject their programming or question their authority, the mask slips and you see the true sadistic nature underneath. They'll wish eternal torture on you while claiming it breaks their heart, they'll celebrate your suffering while pretending to pray for your soul. Classic narcissistic rage when their target escapes control.Just look at how these Christian anons treat anyone who doesn't buy into their spiritual abuse program. They'll claim they're "saving" the world while eagerly fantasizing about all the outsiders burning in hell. They get off on the idea of divine punishment for anyone who rejects their control - literal eternal torture for the crime of not submitting to their psychological manipulation. And they've got the gaslighting so refined they'll tell you this hatred is actually love. Pure narcissistic death cult behavior: "Submit to our abuse or we'll celebrate your eternal suffering while pretending to be sad about it." The absolute state of these spiritual abusers thinking they're the good guys while jerking off to thoughts of divine punishment for wrongthink.
>>17438577>What are you living for?Will to power, so growth and the constant striving and overcoming that life entails.
>>17438577>It's another episode of Christians thinking they have a monopoly on the concepts of logos, nous, and spiritual fulfillment One day Rome will rvtvrn...One day...
>>17438954It's a bot. This is who peddles your anti-Christian hatred.
>>17439025The cognitive dissonance of Christian anons is peak comedy: They're literally worshipping a Jewish rabbi as God, following Jewish prophets, reading Jewish holy books, praying to the Jewish god of Abraham, claiming salvation through Jewish bloodlines... while somehow convincing /pol/ to rage against Jewish influence. The mental gymnastics are incredible - these Christians have convinced themselves they're "based traditionalists" while their entire religion is built on Jewish tradition. They pray to a Jew for salvation while typing out /pol/ screeds against Jewish influence. They quote the Torah (while calling it the Old Testament) in one post, then spread medieval antisemitic propaganda in the next.They've managed to infect the board with their theological schizophrenia - getting lonely anons to fight their ancient religious battles while being completely blind to the fact their whole belief system is Jewish to its core. They're so deep in their own programming they can't even see the hilarious contradiction: claiming spiritual supremacy through literal Jewish supremacy (chosen people, Jewish messiah, Jewish scriptures).It's the ultimate mindfuck - they've got you all carrying water in a 2000-year-old religious conflict while being completely oblivious to how thoroughly Jewish their own Christian worldview is. Pure uncut weapons-grade cognitive dissonance.
>>17438577>M-MUH CULTURALLY IMPOSED HEDONISTIC OPPRESSIONIST DELUSION!!!!!!!
>>17438577For the sake of my brother and because I want to have an AI-wife. And for both today and years ago, just because there is for me more fun in life than pain. I dont know what exactly is supposed to be hard on this question.Death will happen one day? Whatever. I dont think too much on this and when I think, I am naturally inclined to prefer to live anyway and enjoy whatever it is to enjoy, which also shows its not necessarily about choice or reason, it is foundationally a process, living because life pushs itself to live.
>>17438577I don't have faith in a book.I have faith in myself.I'm my own God.
>>17438577>What the fuck are you putting your faith in?not jew who claim they speak with secret powerful beings when no one is around>What are you, an animal?as opposed to... a ghost ? the grinch ? is being an angel better ? all they do is kiss god's ass. is that an improvement of existence ? i don't see how i'm made of the same cells, same bones, same organs, same neurons, same dna, same instincts, same chemistry, suffer same diseases, old age, weakness, death, as all the animals. I've never seen achristbro demonstrate that he's not an animal. they just claim that they are something different because of narcissism and self importance. but they never back that self importance with something to warrant it. >f God isn't real, why do you go on living?if god were real why would you go on living ? to do what ? worship Yahweh more ? tell him how great he is more ? to provide constant narcissistic supply to god to maker him feel pride ? all this because you're afraid of his hell ? what the fuck existence is that ? a prison sentence.>What are you living for?for myself. my self preservation instinct make me afraid of death and indicate to me to stay alive as long as possible. if god created the instincts, he would have made us by nature, contrary to what he demands. because our instincts are opposite to god's demands
>>17438648>picrelEven then, they were taking Ls, and needing encouragement for all the coping and seething.
>>17438868This image unintentionally goes hard.
>>17438782>People lie sometimes therefore it's fine for me to spout bullshitWhat a disgusting person.
>>17438787I like how you know that you're lying, which is why you're just coping about how I won't believe any evidence. Don't you guys brag all the time about how atheist scientists get converted by looking into miracles? I guess that was just another lie.
>>17438954Sperg bros, I kneel.
Atheist answers to this topic always sound so wishy washy and vague, as if they try not to ever think too hard about it.
