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What are the historical reasons for the work-shyness of southern europeans? Is it the negro admixture? Poor food? Horrendous living conditions(mudhut favelas)? Nasty weather? Genetic predisposition to being poor?

What can solve it other than slavery?
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i forgot to mention im indian btw if that matters
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>>17442938
I also look like this btw
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>>17442908
Why should they work if northerners have filled this niche?
Natural selection.
Some men will work, others will rest.
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>>17443001
Ok but why do they complain about being poor? Something about white supremacy oppressing euroafricans(them).
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VGH, the protestant work ethic of Bulgaria...
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>>17442908
There are structural issues that contribute to high youth unemployment rates in South Europe. These are:
>overly strict employment laws making it far too expensive to fire employees, leading to entrenched older cadres and an absence of the kind of churn that enables young people to get their foot in the door. This also leads to dual labour markets where older people are in secure/well-paid contracts while younger people are hired on a temporary/part-time basis and frequently find themselves between jobs.
>South Europe hasn't really recovered from post-2008 austerity and the drop in investment and job creation that came with it
>poorly thought-out education systems leading to inappropriately educated youth populations (i.e. not enough vocational/technical training and an overabundance of university programmes for the number of graduate jobs available in the market). The young university graduate who can't find a professional job is something of an archetype in South Europe because of this.
>excessive focus on developing tourism instead of high-growth/high-tech industries is another big issue - a lot of tourism/hospitality work is seasonal, not particularly well paid, with limited career progression and growth prospects. You also get the negative feedback of over-tourism in a lot of European cities now, which leads to young people becoming a slave class unable to afford to live or go out in their own cities, which have effectively become theme parks for foreign tourists.
>high costs of starting a business and high taxes to support generous social state programmes is another big issue, creating high barriers for entry to young entrepreneurs
>the final issue is brain drain. A lot of the brightest and best young people in South Europe migrate to North Europe or North America for better job prospects, leaving the less ambitious ones at home to drive up the youth unemployment rate.
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>>17443107
>Cont'd
A lot of these structural issues are difficult to overturn because they threaten the interests of the more financially secure older generations who turn up to vote in high numbers.

A lot of Northern European countries like the UK have something similar going on in terms of intergenerational injustice being perpetuated simply because old people are more likely to vote. You see this in particular in the British political attachment to stupid policies like the pension triple lock (which leads to an ever-rising proportion of public spending being devoted to old people), the refusal to means test the state pension (working age people are much more likely to be in poverty, with something like a third of British pensioners being millionaires), constantly pushing policies to artificially inflate house prices (which just creates intergenerational wealth transfer), etc., etc.

The young are screwed because the media class ignores their interests, the political class ignores their interests, and it takes them decades to work out how much systemic dysfunction is and has been screwing them over.
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>>17443107
All of this plus plenty of people are unemployed on paper but work off the books to avoid the crippling taxation
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>>17443107
Great post
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>>17442908
>work-shyness
Just say lazy, brownoids tend to be, the mixed race non whites there are a curse. I pity the whites still there and hope for there sake the purge of the foreign blood comes soon.
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>>17443799
>there
Their*
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>>17443107
Noted. The weakness of the youth class is a symptom of its status as the minority of minorities in the demographics of Southern Europe. In all young and vigorous countries, there are two categories that need no compassion: politicians and young people, especially the latter. In a profoundly youthful society, young people do not wait for the old to die in order to do business or seize power. They do not beg for better living conditions from the aging hands of their fathers. When young people are the majority, they are violent, and they take what they want.
This was true in Southern Europe as well, up until the 1970s. There were many young people, and they did not wait for defenseless elders to cut their pensions in order to support them. They fought, they made and unmade dictatorships and military juntas—look at Spain, Italy, and Greece. They starved, yet they were so fertile that the population grew steadily.
Today's youth class is youthful only on paper; inwardly, they are already fifty years old. They are groomed, they queue up, they do not react to the arrival of migrants, and while they aim for careers, they do not desire power. They are infertile, they complain but do not demand.
They are already dead.
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italians are whiter than your piece of shit country.
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>>17442908
OP is a faggot and a Calvinist, but I repeat myself.
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>>17443932
Most based thing ive read this month
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>>17443932
Arbeit macht frei
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>>17442908
>>17442908
The attitude likely dates back to the Roman Empire, where the whole method of advancement was to engage in military service in exchange for land that would then be worked by captive laborers. This attitude spread to Iberia via Roman veteran colonies and then across the world during the Age of Discovery. The Greeks also celebrated leisure and abhored labor (but then, so did many German barbarian tribes, so it might be more fair to assume this attitude prevails in any society that is reasonably free and only really changes with the advent of Protestant theology).

For whatever reason Mediterranean elites failed to imitate the British enclosure movement (forcing people off commonly held land and into cities to work in factories). One notable effect of this is that those Mediterraneans and Latinos who are educated are also usually at least somewhat cultured. Reading philosophy is seen as a leisure activity, not a chore.
>>17443107
I don't really buy the employment law thing. Latin American countries are usually the same way, and they just ignore the laws because bargaining power is so low there. Then, there is also an established trend of killing labor organizers, so maybe the South Euros don't have to contend with that and the labor laws have to be treated more seriously by South Euro firms.
>post-2008 austerity
I don't really get this one either because watching footage of Spain during the 1990s it looks positively third world (albeit far cleaner and comfier).
https://www.youtube.com/@eugeniomonesma-documentales
>poorly thought-out education systems
That one I can believe. I made friends with a server in Colombia who had a degree in astronomy. He must have made less than $10 a day.
>over-tourism
Also believable. Pic related.
>Generous programs
This is supposedly what sank the Greeks back in the early 2010s.
>>17443119
>re: the UK
All of these issues are occurring in basically the exact same way in Canada.
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>>17444731
Free from what?
>>17443932
Keyed
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>>17442908
As a work shy European:
It's about low trust in the leadership.
Both at work and in politics.
Destroy organised crime, especially white collar, and imprison all politicians involved.
That would be a start.
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>>17442908
No one wants to be a slave in a colony.
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Hating to work is a very old Spanish thing.
The only respectable professions were being a priest, or a nobleman dedicated to war.
They have a long history of very poor lower nobility called Hidalgos that endured immense hardship and destitution in order to not work, which they would have seen as an act that totally would have destroyed their dignity as noblemen.

Even as recently as half a century ago, being an engineer was seen as undignified. If a high class family had 4 kids, one would be a lawyer, another a doctor, another a soldier, and the last one a priest. But none people who did something productive or worked with their hands (except perhaps the doctor)
The same philosophy applied to the Latin American colonies of Spain.
In Argentina almost all the engineers were of non Spanish European ancestry, so much that even the Italian word Ingegnere/i was used mockingly to them by the descendents of colonial Spanish aristocracy.
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>>17446083
Mother of based. Spain is a country of Brahmin and Kshatriya, not of mere Vashya apes.
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>>17446102
>Spain is a country
...of "un cerveza porfavor"
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>>17443042
they arent poor, their living standards are the same as the north, they just dont break their backs working 60 hour weeks so mohammad can get paid for his 10 kids with his cousin-wife.
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>>17446083
Julius Evola (an Italian author) also opted not to become an engineer because he believed it would make him bourgeois.

This is also a pattern you see in attitudes towards work among monastics and intellectuals both in Europe and in the world at large. e.g. Buddhist monks are not supposed to work, but instead rely on alms. In Europe, there is an historical attitude which sees professionalism as higher than mere labor. A medical doctor, for example, would not generally perform surgeries in the ancient world - his whole purpose was not application, but knowledge of theory. This is an attitude you see among both monastic and later academic intellectuals. This gives us the notion of the professional, being literally one who professes knowledge of their vocation (rather than being engaged in the vocation itself).

This attitude still persists in a lot of the European Continent and in South America, and academia (as well as study for its sake) is still generally seen as prestigious there, whereas in the Anglosphere the whole idea is kind of foreign - surgeons generally make more than medical professors, for example, and academia as a whole isn't seen as aspirational by society at large anymore.
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>>17446117
lol
Nadie quiere trabajar, pero todo el mundo quiere ser libre.
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>>17442908
I was going to say cucktholicism, but even Southern Germany is less lazy than South Europe
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>>17446160
No hablo spic amigo
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>>17443909
east medjeet scum



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