this happening would've been better for humanity, prove me wrong
>>17982176>even in their haziest opium fueled fantasies the Ottomans don't conquer Greece
>>17982176The Turks winning in Vienna would have actually led to a unified Germany much earlier and a joint Russian and German gangbang of the Turks who only survived as long as they did because of the Austrians funnily enough as they felt they were “owed” the entire balkans and denied Russia from ever conquering them which they had been capable of since the 1700’s
>>17982176this is maybe realistic if you you mean victory in the 1529 siege of vienna. the 1683 battle was far too late for the turks to achieve anything like that picturealso there's no reason for bradenburg or prussia or spain (LMAO) to become turkish vassals and the habsburg territories outside of austria proper and bohemia would've been gobbled up by nearby powers like france and bavaria
>>17982176>The ottomans capture a city the Emperor was not even in at the time>Hence, the entirety of the Habsburg empire and Brandenburg for some reason become Vassals of the Turks>Even though most of those territories where held by a differnt branch of the family under a different guy.>Somehow they still don't conquer Morrocco though>Venice still captures the Peloponese, even though their entrance into the Holy league was caused by the Ottoman defeat at Vienna.>Augustus the strong still king of Poland because dipshit author ran out of ideas.>>17982204Italy and the netherlands was technically under Spain at the time.
>>17982199This. It would've only led to the rise of nationalism and revanchism in Austria rather than France earlier in history. Euros were already butthurt about allowing any other European power from making territorial gains. Imagine suffering a humiliation at vienna and allowing a Muslim one to take vast swathes of territory
>>17982176>Poland exists
>>17982176The only good thing about this map is that it would accelerate the genocide of Germanic (subhumans) """people""", who are letting turkroaches by the dozens in the current year while seething about muh slavs anyway.
VGH The vilayet of prussia
>>17982176Vgh, the eyalet-i-avusturiya
>>17982176the fuck is this mapits not plausible in any fucking sense, no matter from which side you look at it
>>17982906mutt alarm
>>17982199Wtf are you talking about timmy? Russia and germoids were part of the holy league alliance and still couldn’t defeat ottochads. Germoids and anglos only turned on them later on when the ottomans had become too weakened
>>17982199>the Turks who only survived as long as they did because of the Austrians funnily enough as they felt they were “owed” the entire balkans and denied Russia from ever conquering them which they had been capable of since the 1700’sThe 1700's literally started with Austria ganging up on the Turks together with Russia only to get btfo and sign a separate peace. Right after this happened the Russians also peaced out because they didn't think they could take on the Ottomans 1v1.
>>17983524Ottonions got utterly btfo in the great turkish war, they would have lost the entire Balkan and possibly Constantinople had (((France))), the enemy of all free peoples, not intervened on their behalf.
>>17983545Russia benefited because the primary enemy of the ottomans were germoids not them, and the wars with russia were a second front they didnt really care much about. And the french didn't help in any way anyways except for the crimean war in mid 19th century
>>17983343There are scholars who dedicate their lives to studying this medieval empire and they don't ever mind calling it Byzantine. It's always some brazilian on 4chan
>>17982176Inaccurate, Kaffa and southern Coast of Crimea never belonged to the Crimean Khanate(except for a brief period during the Russian conquest)
i dislike turks so much it's unreal
>>17982176you are forgetting somebody op>kek
>>17983559>gives Russia warm water ports allowing them to build a navy to bombard the Turks capital, something they had fought for over 200 years to prevent >ummmm we didnt actually care about that land!!
Turks were the sick man of Europe starting right about then, though.
It's an interesting case study in history- in the early 16th century the Ottomans were still a terror. By the late 17th century they were a joke.
