Why did Persians convert to Islam if they tend to be more prideful of their culture and heritage than other civilizations conquered by Arabs like Egyptians?
>>18040612Because they lost to the Muslims. A good book about how Islam changed Persia is called Two Centuries of Silence. Also interesting to note that Sassanid royalty fled to China.
>>18040620Indians also lost to Muslims but India is still majority Hindu
>>18040625India had a larger, dumber population. It was easier to lord over the majority of Indians and tax farm them.
>>18040625It's because the Mughals simply wanted to rule over land, unlike the caliphate which wanted to convert everyone
>>18040739They breed by raping each other and incest. It's R selection mechanics, I agree.
Found it interesting that the leadership of Iran basically decided at some point to change the country from Sunni to Shia to be different. Just goes to show you that the accidents of which religion is predominent can be due to politics. I guess it's fairly similar to Henry VIII and making England Protestant.
Arabs only spreaded culture to Semitic peoples tho
>>18040612The romans destroyed the egyptian nile taxation system. This lead them to poverty and them converting to christianity over time. Otherwise the egyptian would have resisted christianization and islamization a lot better.
One God, ethical focus, and community. These are the only things Persians value.
Reminder that islamic tradition states mohameed (aka "little moe moe") spent a night in the desert getting his guts stuffed in by a group of black dudes
>>18041384Not sure if white person with negroid bull fetish or black person going "muh dicc". You have plenty of objectionable stuff in the Quran and Hadith, why do you feel the need to make stuff up?It's like the atheists who whine about the historical evidence for Jesus or isolate specific verses to try and disprove religion as a whole (because to them Christianity IS religion) instead of engaging the belief system on its merits like Nietzsche for example did. It's just counterproductive when your lies are proven to be false or your quotes are devoid of context.Creedal religions are easily shown to be absurd on the surface, no need to make stuff up. The most mature believers of these faiths embrace the absurdity, chief among them Søren Kierkegaard.
They got to be big dogs within Islam from a relatively early point in its history. The Abbasids put their capital in a historically Persian city and often had Persian viziers.
>>18040612Because they were tired of how oppressive Sassanian-era Zoroastrianism was. Almost all the bad things in Sharia have precedence in Zoroastrian Vendidad purity laws FYI. I recommend actually doing real research instead of listening to memelord faggots.>>18040620Cringe and BS. Pisslam is a continuation of Zoroshit in many ways like praying 5 times a day, apostasy laws, being a stickler for purity, and other crap.Greco-Buddhism should have spread into Iran. Also, the more Westerners interact with Iran, the worst it will become. Westerners should fuck off. Iran should learn from Eastern spiritual traditions, not the West.
>>18041790T. Lil moe moe after he got spit roasted by five """jinn"""
>>18040877It's because Ismail I came from a Shia Sufi order.
>>18040877they were praying to the 12 imams centuries before this though. We have enough writings and inscriptions to see this. To be contrarian to the rest of the middle east is the default position of persia
>>18040625Pakistan and Bangladesh were Indian.
People need to realize all the six canonical hadith collections were compiled by Persians. The biggest school of Sunni islam jurisprudence which is bigger than all three combined was also started by a Persian. They literally helped Islam to where it is now. I don't even need to say anything about Shia islam and Sufi/Mystical Islam. People need to stop acting like they were merely forced to become muslims. They literally developed the islamic legalism.
>>18042575>Pisslam is a continuation of Zoroshit in many ways like praying 5 times a day, apostasy laws, being a stickler for purity, and other crap.That's filthy hadiths and riwyats (made by zoroshit and arab pagans) not Quran.
>>18044234Quran is fucked. Like all revealed religion. Look at our universe. Do you not see the beauty? The laws designed as they are, for us to exist, right now. Time and space aligning in this moment. That is the word of God my friend. You will find only depictions of it in books, creeds, etc but it's like looking at the finger when you should be looking to the moon it is pointing to.
>>18044222Oh great legalism something they had from Zoroastrianism. Syncretist much? Damn, I used to love Persia. Now I'm anti-Iranian.
>>18040612They "converted", then created their whole own pseudo-Jesus/Indo-European twist. They kept their language, which is the most important thing and their borders have been pretty stable for the past 2500 years. Lots of the OG self-described Persians left when the shah was overthrown and came to the US/Europe. They're entirely secular and even a few Zoros among them. The "Islamic Revolution" has already come and gone within their own lifetime and they're just waiting to swoop in with there US Dollars and buy the joint up over the next 20 years, or so. Persia existed long before Islam arrived and it will it exist long after it, as well.
>>18043759If you add Pakistan and Bangladesh, Hindus are still 60-70% of the population.
the ummayads didn't want them to convert so fast due to taxation reasons but they converted in mass really quickly unlike the egyptians who took their sweet time, probably as it was a stealth way to persian dominance beyond cyrus tier through muhammed, by mass converting to islam the Persians quickly outnumbered the muslims and not long after took over with the abassids, moving the capital to the persian sphere of baghdad, and having a cultutally persian islamic caliphate with them as the center from china to morocco, this is akin to if today the han chinese mass converted to islam overnight claimed the global caliphate and started absorbing all the muslim nations starting from the ones they border up till senegal in a stealth annexation through ummah talking points, so they could quickly take over most of it if they played their cards right thus putting leaders of muslim countries at severe unease
>>18044686No retard the only Persians that weren't completely controlled by the Jews were the Shia Islam empires the Safavids and all their successors up to the current Khamenei regime. Both Cyrus the Great and Medieval Islam were 100% owned by the Jews>>18044352
>>18040625Did they lose their whole state and every religious site?
>>18044724there a muslim rule in the quran that you cant force someone into islam, this was also favorable to muslim conquerors as they can rule over a non muslim population causing a hierarchy and easy tax cattle, so mughals didnt force the hindus to convert they just ruled over them and taxed them
>>18044353Which is an absolute shitload of Muslims when you consider total population. I think it's safe to say Islam did a good job at converting Indians.
