Why did civilization thrive in Eurasia while the Americas, sub Saharan Africa and Australia were stuck in the stone age?
Jews.
>>18484600true, whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger
>>18484597> Americas, sub Saharan AfricaObjectively incorrect.>AustraliaNo agriculture, though it is a bit strange how Papuans never developed some sort of civilization. You could argue that Abbos were actually were advanced than them.
>>18484626I've seen Abbos described as advanced hunter-gatherers. They had proto-writing and understood how plants worked. They definitely would've started farming if given a few thousand more years.
Your preconceived assumptions are incorrect, because:1. The Americas had independently developed Bronze metallurgy/smelting, see: >>18471859 , >>18475363 , >>18475396 , >>184754172. Subsaharan Africa had Iron and steel smelting, and it may have been independently invented. This isn't my area of expertise but this: https://muse.jhu.edu/article/187874 seems like an solid overview of some of the debates around if it was indepedently developed in SSA or not. 3. "Stone/Bronze/Iron ages" as a measurement of how advanced a society is are bullshit generalizations and what material a society uses for tools doesn't inherently say anything about how developed they are in other areas, as evidenced by the Mesoamericans (even before they developed bronze) having cities and other achievements on par with Bronze age, and even Classical and Medieval Eurasian societies (see >>18472195, >>18475314 , and >>18475427) and some of the aforementioned steel using African societies still living in simple villages: Why should the material used for tools be inherently more a barometer then urban design/city sizes, political complexity, engineering ability, etc?
>>18484781>>18484597>This isn't my area of expertise but this: https://muse.jhu.edu/article/187874 seems like an solid overview of some of the debates around if it was indepedently developed in SSA or not. Apparently also more evidence supporting an independent SSA invention of iron smelting was published after the paper, I linked, too, as seen in these papers:https://www.jstor.org/stable/43135497https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10963-009-9030-6shttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/342656145_The_Origins_of_African_Metallurgies_The_Origins_of_African_Metallurgies_Summary_and_KeywordsAgain, tho, my area isn't Africa so I can't really evaluate these.Also, >Wikipedia, but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_metallurgy_in_Africa#Origins_and_spread_in_Africa also refers to some additional papers and research
>>18484786>>18484781>>18484597Also, apparently a full book for free which might touch on this:https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303522764_Metals_in_Past_Societies
>>18484626>>18484781>>18484786>>18484786>>18484787Stop falling for low effort bait
>>18484626I mean, what do you mean by civilization? They had fortified communities, warfare, trade.I gues you could make the argument that tubers are just really bad for state formation because you can't store them easily for long periods of time, though. The sheer language diversity of the place also speak to extremely restricted mobility, too. Unlike in Australia were one family dominates over all the others.
>>18484597stone age? when the europeans arrived the injuns were still usin wood for everything savages im glad columbus killed them all sieg heil
>>18484597Eurasia was more interconnected. Social and technological developments in Mesopotamia or the Mediterranean or South Asia (and to a slightly lesser extent East Asia) were just significantly easier to propagate within Eurasia whether via passive osmosis or direct cultural exchange, there has been consistent, relatively high volume movement of people across Eurasia since prehistory.The eastern coast of SSA has had the most exposure to the Eurasian civilizational slurry over time and accordingly historically has the most developmental similarities to Eurasian civilization pre-colonialism. Inland Africa is infamously inhospitable to the kind of dense, resource intensive settlement that came to dominate Eurasian civilization. The Americas and Australia were overwhelmingly isolated.
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>>18485184>The eastern coast of SSA has had the most exposure to the Eurasian civilizational slurry over time and accordingly historically has the most developmental similarities to Eurasian civilization pre-colonialism.Factually incorrect, West Africa had more developed trade and economic specialization than the rest of the continent (E Green, 2013, Production systems in pre-colonial Africa) https://www.aehnetwork.org/textbook/production-systems-in-pre-colonial-africa/
>>18484600Jews didn't exist until Late Roman times silly
>>18485206> Us blacks (27% white on ave)Slop image. They're 20% white on average, and that's counting those who are only socially black (a label which extends to quadroons). The 27% figure comes from 23andme, which is a very selected dataset.
>>18485115Says the anon who didn't sage the thread when you replied>>18485141wrong, see >>18484781
>>18485122> civilizationUrbanization, social stratification, and specialized labor.
>>18486371Fair. Might have been a geography thing in New Guinea's case.
>>18484597Mayas and Aztecs weren't really that much different from the Middle East in 1500, just had bad luck with spanish niggers immediately genociding them
