>Mediocre artist>Has made millionsHow did he do it?
>>7145842by creating something which their is an audience for.With scott pilgrim the average redditor can now project himself into the world of scott pilgrim. To live out his fantasy of beating up hordes of other simps to get noticed by his E-thot and become her BF.
>>7145885>by creating something which there is an audience for.man fuck auto spelling
>>7145842It was the coming of age of 00's culture at the same time it created another subculture. It was simply the product of it's time and it's special to everyone who grew with it. Btw the art and the story reminds those cringe relationship drawings people used to post on orkut and facebook and I remember the 00's being about dating and eternal teen love.
>>7145842maybe it had something to do with Adult Swim, that's the first time i saw the animated short
>>7145842>Mediocre How so?
>>7145842>dont listen to /ic/ ngmis that never create shit>make it Damn that's crazy.
I haven't googled it but I felt this dudes books have been around since I was a kid...>August 2004Yeah, that's a long time.
>>7145951So basically the secret is keep drawing your project for 20 years.
>>7145842Literally just by creating an actual product. Illustrations are by comparison worthless.
>>7145951if current me went to 2004 I could become a famous artist in no time.
>>7145842Mediocre artist? Maybe, but he's a comic artist, and that depends on more than just drawing talent.
>Scott Pilgrim vs the Roast
>>7145974He’s a terrible writer, too
>>7145842He might not be a technically skilled artist but making 200+ page graphic novels across 6 volumes is pretty impressive in and of itself.Most anons here probably couldn't even produce a 100 page gn
>>7145992Really? Where's your still beloved multimedia franchise anon? This isn't like Twilight where everyone collectively looks back and agrees it was shit, Scott Pilgrim holds up, because it's good.
>>7145976Seriously thoughImagine Ramona's flapsWallace was right about women
>>7145842Sucked dick
>>7145842Imagine if they were beetles. They would look like this probably.
>>7145842>How did he do it?By drawing that one face really well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTptllKOGH8
>>7146094Kek
>>7146088Cute
>>7145885>the average redditoryou don't understand Scott pilgrim do you?
>>7145842>Bandage on leg/thighsI love this trope.
>>7145902I loved that short
>>7145842What's his net worth any way?
>>7145842You don't need to be the best artist, you just need to be a good enough artist with an attractive enough style, with characters and stories that resonate with an audience. The Japanese manga landscape is littered with artists that are 1000 times better in character design, backgrounds, and overall artistry that fell by the wayside because their stories and characters weren't up to snuff. Bryan lee o'malley is a faggot but I don't hate on him because he found success.
>>7145897this he tapped into a zeitgeist with the work and was somewhat ahead of the curve on some trends - manic pixie, nerd culture becoming mainstream
>>7145897>I remember the 00's being about dating and eternal teen love.yeah
>>7145842Pandering to millennials
>>7145842He had comics before this that were complete flops, comics after were also not as good. He just happened to make a hit at a time when the comic industry was both bored of the cape shit but also not yet pozzed
>>7147043SP was a bit of a flop at first too. O'Malley said that he was still having to work at restaurants until vol 4 and the intial movie deal
>>7147053How was he able to get the movie deal if the comic wasn’t selling a lot?
>>7145842How? By telling a story visually instead of drawing pretty pictures like most render monkeys. Nimona is the same thing.
>>7147056Sales picked up, then movie deal. He was in contact with Edgar Wright as well
>>7147053Unpopular opinion but michael cera was the perfect cast. Mary Elizabeth having wider shoulders than him it's the cherry on the top.
>>7147062I agreeHad Scott been played by some standard pretty boy it would be hard to really tolerate him.Cera can do dickish things but still somehow come off as likable.
>>7145955>by creating an actual product/thread>>7145955>Illustrations are by comparison worthlessI know what you mean by this but there's exceptions like picrel.
>>7146473>You don't need to be the best artist, you just need to be a good enough artist with an attractive enough style, with characters and stories that resonate with an audience.Basically "Appeal" >The Japanese manga landscape is littered with artists that are 1000 times better in character design, backgrounds, and overall artistry that fell by the wayside because their stories and characters weren't up to snuff.There's plenty of God tier manga artists that are far less successful than Shonen Jump artists so this makes sense.
>>7145842>Mediocre artistPlenty of western comics, graphic novels, webcomics and even manga (OPM webmanga) have bad art but are popular anyway.I know artists don't like to hear this but maybe learn to tell a story instead of grinding fundies.
>>7145842Good writing + appealing characters is all you need. Hell, you don't even need good writing, you need appealing writing.It's all appeal, son. If you don't understand it you will never make it. You could be an expert artist and novelist but if your art and writing don't have appeal, nobody will give a shit. The audience can excuse mediocre art and writing, as long as there is...A P P E A LPPEAL
>>7147082Honestly, I would have liked to see them stay closer to the original's art, if that picrel is actually the same character.I don't think I've seen a 'dot-eyed' animated film character since that blue-sky peanuts film.
>>7145842Mossad marketing
>>7147117Meds
Why is this board so jealous? When good artist succeeds, then it's excuse to make up how they aren't as good and are bland because popular= bad and when mid one does same it's also problem from social media and normiesIf a mediocre artist makes it out why don't you try too? I though people would be more so happy and willing more to try if they can too make it with not much of an art skill but 100% of your best put into itIsn't that what you guys wanted? To get rewarded for your hard work that twitter and other sites won't appreciate
>>7147178Most of the people in this thread seem to agree that OP is being a sourpuss, or just joking around.However, regarding your main point of people being upset at others success, it's a common phenomenon; It's Tall Poppy Syndrome.
>>7146164haven't bother reading it. sounds kinda cringe from the summary of the story>simp falls in love with e-thot>simp must defeat her exes(simps) to become her BFsounds like the dream of your average redditor.
>>7147234That's hardly a summary, that's just the opening pitch, a back of the book blurb.
>>7147108>if that picrel is actually the same character.It's the same character.
>>7147094>You could be an expert artist and novelist but if your art and writing don't have appeal, nobody will give a shit.I didn't believe in appeal till I saw Dave Rapoza fanart of Super Meat Boy, that shit is ugly.The original is simple, geometric and appealing.
>>7147094>The audience can excuse mediocre art and writing, as long as there is...>A P P E A LUndertale pixel art is terrible, but the characters appeal to autistic children so it's popular.Even Loomis talk about appeal in his books.
>>7147178>Why is this board so jealous?Most comments here are defending the mediocre artist success.
>>7147178Crab peopleCrab peopleWalk like crabTalk like people
>>7147082>I know artists don't like to hear this but maybe learn to tell a story instead of grinding fundies.visual medium
>>7148031Sorry to burst your bubble but good writing will always trump great art quality. People are fine with shit visuals as long as the writing is entertaining.That's why the One Punch Man webcomic and the Mob Psycho 100 manga are so beloved, despite the bad drawings.If you put all your apples into art and refuse to get good at writing, you get something like TheGoldenSmurf's Ramia-Yana. Shit writing but great visuals, which I guess can work if you draw borderline-fetish content.So in conclusion: If you can't write for shit, you'll have to sell your soul to gooners and coomers.
>>7148031Yes and O'Malley's art gets the job done instead of trying so hard to be technically perfect.For most audiences, high /beg/ to mid /int/ is unironically good enough
>>7147283Dave rapoza annoys me. You can tell he's technically proficient but... it's too fucking much. My eyes feel assaulted by all the small details. It's like looking directly at the sun. You can't stare at it for too long or you'll hate it, yet there's so much you feel you need to look at because of all the detail
>>7148031Nice cope but comics just like animation and video games still need a story to be good.
>>7148088>You can tell he's technically proficient but... it's too fucking much. >My eyes feel assaulted by all the small detailsI feel the same way.
>>7148355tell that to coombait gacha games that make more than triple A games and movies.
>>7147283What in God's name?
>>7145842Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World ruined a whole generation of women
>>7149106SUPER MEAT BOOOYYYY!!!!
>>7145842Alot of other anons have explained this already but Brian's art is actually quite good. It's charming and it effectively conveys the tone and atmosphere of the story. Don't confuse simplicity with a lack of technique. Secondly, comics are a visual medium, but the visuals aren't the end of it. Scott Pilgrim, as a story, is good even in a vaccum. It's well-told coming of age romantic story dressed up with styles of 8 and 16-bit video games, and a lot of anime influences. It's characters are well-rounded, charming, and likeable for their flaws and their growth. It's obviously not without its problems - In particular, the story loses a lot of steam in Volume 5. What really made it resonate, though, was how Brian managed to perfectly capture the zeitgeist of the times with his story. It was released around the time when kids who grew up playing 8 and 16-bit video games were in Scott's position - early twenties and just finding their way in the world, still having a lot of growing up to do - and it paints a very captivating picture of "what it was like." It's a bit like American Graffiti for Canada in the Early 2000's.TL:DR A story well-told at the right time, in the right place. Do what >>7147082 said and read up on writing.
>>7145842>Mediocre artistpywalso, he just drew
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>>7148050>>7148355Comics are a medium where the writing is told mostly (sometimes just entirely) through the visuals. This is a hard concept to explain but it is what sets the truly great comics from the good ones.If writing is the 'only thing' that matters than make a book.
>>7145842>Has made millionsLolThink he was able to buy a house with the money form the film though
>>7152675He definitely got paid well from the Netflix show
>>7145842He was the first nigga that wasn't japanese to understand that people like cute romances when the people in it actually look fucking cute and aren't horrific DC/Marvel hairless monkeys.
>>7152675He was likely paid straight up for the film, rather than paid in royalties, so yeah he probably could.
