How did your life change after embracing being a porn artist? Do you feel more confident, do you tell people what you do? Do you get to meet more interesting artists?
>>7149751>Do you feel more confident?yeah: embracing being a porn artist -> getting better with anatomy -> confidence increase>Do you tell people what you do?only my friends>Do you get to meet more interesting artists?no since I'm not very interested in socializingif another artist has an interesting style, I watch closely and imitate him from a distance
>>7149762Do you make money with your art at least?
>>7149751>Do you feel more confident, No. the instant gratification is only good for that instant. How easy is to impress people with little effort depressed me. >do you tell people what you do?The one person I did laughed at me.>Do you get to meet more interesting artists?No. Just porn bot accounts in my dms.
>>7149751>How did your life change after embracing being a porn artist? I can afford more groceries so that's nice>Do you feel more confident, do you tell people what you do?No. And I only told three people about what I do in my IRL circle. >Do you get to meet more interesting artists?People said they want to meet me but I don't want to
>>7149751I tried coom artists for a year, it was exciting at first. Until I drew Loli and was targeted by a group of female artists for being pedo. Mind you, I didn't even know I was drawing loli because I didn't even know what loli was. I just drew what I think looks like the character. I was making decent amount of money too until I was targeted. It was fun and funny while it lasted because the people who commissioned me tend to be wild and their fantasy are novel to me. I still waiting to be commissioned scat or some weird shit that I can't even fathom. I will draw it for the sake of experiencing it firsthand for the lulz. I met an interesting artists out of this experience. And have 2 very supportive commissioner.
>>7149796cringe and grosspilled. You werent unfairly targeted, you're a creep.
>>7149811Listen buddy, I didn't even know what was loli back then, the intent matters right? I was starting as a digital artist. As an artists we ought to try drawing and study everything right? But too bad, I went into it without knowing what is what. Haha now I'm in poverty.
>>7149751>Do you feel more confident,No. Because I'm a nobody.>do you tell people what you do?No, since I'm a nobody >Do you get to meet more interesting artists?No. Because people still see that I'm a nobody.>>7149787What's your patreon, I would like to compare it to my patreon because I've had mine for 3 years and I've only earned $4.
>>7149824>Listen buddy, I didn't even know what was loli back then, the intent matters right?If you were old enough to charge people for commission, you knew exactly what you were drawing. You wish that you didn't know. >I was starting as a digital artist. As an artists we ought to try drawing and study everything right?What does being a beginner artist have to do with this? Disgusting.
>>7149844I didn't know what loli was, I drew anime character that happens to be below 15. That was it. I was learning to draw anime. Anyways it doesn't take away the fact that there are wholesome loli drawers.
>>7149787A better question is where do you post your shit for people to actually find you and your patreon. On Twitter nobody retweets my shit.
>>7149851The trick is to get viral. Once you do. Easy money.
>>7149849This isn't even about you not knowing the "loli" genre. You knew that a minor in a sexualized setting was bad. There's no excuse for this, you're just a creep. >"wholesome" loli/shota drawers.You mean creeps.
>>7149862If going viral were easy, everyone would be making a living with art
>>7149875NTA but simply posting ro multiple sites brought me lot more followers and clients than sticking with one site
>>7149862>>7149875So basically I'm fucked. Ne everybody else that I know haven't gotten viral and probably never will...
>>7149851>On Twitter nobody retweets my shit.That's because your art simply isn't good enough. Simple as that.
>>7149751is it worth it bros? i want to take the leap but have second thoughts
>>7149899If you want most of it, draw a niche you yourself like and people into the same niche follow and support and commission you
>>7149874back to crystal cafe roastie
>>7149887>That's because your art simply isn't good enough. Simple as that.You just have to trust me that i'm decent. ok, we've done this before, somebody says that i'm not good enough, then i post my work, then you guys follow me on twitter because you all know who i am and say to just draw, but just drawing doesn't mean anything if none of my friends are popular. so on and so on, then i get laughed at on discord from you guys saying is that all that you care about? then i have to reply back and say yes, then somebody will say why do you want followers. then i say why not, lets' just not have anything and be happy in the dirt where we belong, yes I've done this before.
>>7149912>TwitterSpotted your problem. Try posting to Pixiv and DA with correct tags. People seek their stuff with tags that they are after and they want to see all pieces containing those. Pixiv and DA have the advantage that their search function show all that stuff in chronological order so if people want to make absolutely sure they dont miss art containing the tags they're after, they look through it. Twitter and other sites are algorithm based and you need help of bigger accounts to boost your visibility in those
>>7149912And you'll do this even more in the future if you don't get good at art. Just draw anon. >>7149920I can tell that you have less than 10k on your socials just from reading this
>>7149932That is correct
>>7149933>this guy draws like a beginner>the only thing that would explain anything is that wrestlefag are genuinely starved for any kind content>"nah bro if you ain't getting followers it's a skill issue unless it's muh appeal">>7149887Jesus Christ cumbrains are delusional
>>7149935You gotta find a niche you like to draw and people into that niche support you. It helps if they can easily find you.
>>7149933Honestly, people with less than 10K followers should not be giving out advice about social media. >>7149935His art is actually not that bad compared to most people here, he just doesn't know how to advertise.
>>7149944How would you advertise?
>>7149937Yeah, no shit, it still isn't evidence of any skill or marketing genius if you feed crack to junkies.Although, we can also do some math>DA watchers 3.9kUser quality on DA is absolute terrible and even worse than twitter, so you can safely assume that the majority of those watchers are just f4f whores, other types of fetishists also trying to get followed back and a minority of coomers just wanting free shit.>twitter 1k followers, 800 followingBasically carried by f4f and bots.Wouldn't be surprised if DA profile also followed a lot more people than had followers.Those really are hollow numbers, if you observe the whole carefully.>>7149944The art is genuinely high beginner as it gets.Not as a diss or something, but a genuine objective observation.But if it gets carried by something, it is the fetish in an undersupplied niche, IF the numbers are legit and not just bots and follow4follow whores and kids.Saying shit like >>7149887and the showing >>7149933I dunno man, kinda comes off either as delusional or trolling hard
>>7149948I dont think >>7149887 and >>7149933 are same person
>>7149950That's kind of a cop out at this point.
>>7149751Did it a few years ago under a different name. Having looked back on it i'd say it was overall negative not positive:>make more money up front>constantly stimming on pornographic content creating brainrot>drawing the same scenes over and over>sexy art becomes a job and not simply pleasure>if your libertine the word gets out about your projects>if your more conservative things get boring fastIf you ask me, doing porn art is a fast and effective way of making money with a high risk of ruining art for you in general both personally and socially. Its like being a hooker I guess.
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>>7149953Vendetta it is then
>>7149954How is it vendetta when I have only encouraged posting to sites that makes it easier for potential audience to find one's art easier if tagged properly without even saying anything about quality of other anon's art?
>>7149956Are you the artist in question?If no = vendettafaggingIf yes = Are you genuinely retarded?
>>7149960I'm the guy who draws female wrestling and my input to this thread has been>post to sites that makes it easier for potential audience to find you if they search tags that apply to your artI don't know what's retarded or vendetta in it
>>7149946Posting good art consistently while networking with artists and interacting with your followers. Literally post everywhere you can. Being picky about social media is what less than 10k NGMI anons do. >>7149952Nobody gives a shit if an artist used to draw porn as long as they are making good shit. Ghost in the shell is a good example.
>>7149963You're retarded to talk about it when you also showed your actual account when provoked maliciously into doing so, which directly contradicts your own advice.You're parroting shit you don't even know the meaning of.>bb.b..but i said le suppotive wordsfucking meaninglessYou proved the guy who was mocking you correctlyMan, i say cumbrains are retarded as a joke but damn Anon, you don't need to prove it to me this hard
>>7149965I said to post to the sites where audience can find you :D
>>7149965Are you saying artists should avoid coom at all cost? Or are you saying that they shouldn't promote it and get those jobs anonymously? I mean with today's crisis, an artist can't afford to pass on money like that. A job is a job. Selling guns or selling toxic financial assets is much worse than producing erotic art.
>>7149967Who cares, do what gives you joy. Draw those tiddies.
>>7149966Wow you're so right sister!Let's follow each other! You're art is so good! :D:D:D>>7149967I'm saying that if all your followers are bots or other people that don't actually give two shits about your work, you might as well just have 0 followers.
>>7149952I'm thinking of doing erotic art but these points are exactly why I'm so apprehensive. I don't want to do actual porn as in sex scenes, so I lose a huge chunk of coomers. I want to draw something that if traced to my real identity, doesn't hurt me necessarily. Just an expression of eroticism. But I doubt that sells, so what's the point?
>>7149973What's your blog?
>>7149973I agree with this anon, I have a bunch of nobodies on my account. Probably people that were horny for one night and forgot that they've logged in.
>>7149751>How did your life change after embracing being a porn artist?My income skyrocketed and I built a really nice and comfy community around my work.That's pretty much it. Everything else stayed the same.
>>7149751Source on op artist?
>>7150114How do you make money? Through private commissions? How much do you charge?
>>7149751>>Do you feel more confident,No. I don't like porn at all. Just a means to an end. I'm not gonna cope like many other NSFW artists. Coomer shit is bottom of the barrel as far as art goes. But it does allow me to buy books, keep drawing so I can avoid getting a 9/5 and focus on SFW portfolio.>do you tell people what you do?No. Just tell em I do freelance illustrations. Good things normies don't care about art at all, and never ask me about it.>Do you get to meet more interesting artists?No. everyone is super antisocial and egotistical, even though they are not bad people. TLDR:It was more rewarding being commissioned to do a dark fantasy cover for less than 100$ than getting paid 1200$ for a "public use" nsfw illustration.
>How did your life change after embracing being a porn artist?I started to ear enough money to support my family and even help my sick mother, which makes me happy. On the other hand, it starting to get tiresome and I'm sick of drawing what people want to see. Also, since then, I lost interest in my non-artistic studies. In fact, I don't even know of I still want to get my degree.>Do you feel more confident, do you tell people what you do?A few real life friends know about it, but I don't talk much about my job. My family knows as well.>Do you get to meet more interesting artists?Pretty much what this anons answered >>7149762. On the other hand, I met a really nice fetish writer thanks to my drawing. We have been friends since then.
>>7150135Patreon and commissions. I charge differently based on how complex a drawing is. Anywhere from 50 bucks for a sketch to several hundred dollars for a polished/colored artwork. The most I've been paid so far for a single artwork was 450 bucks.
>>7149796>caring what other people think about what you drawNGMIdon't let anyone stop you from drawing whatever you want. i am going to draw kittens being poured into meat grinder and being turned into hotdogs that are shoved in the buttholes of jews.
>>7149762>only my friendssuch confidence is impressivelmao
>>7150156Woah, so edgy.Fucking kek.
>>7149811>>7149874>>7149844They're not real Kys>>7150156Not the same kys
>>7149765I get commission requests every so often, but I always refuse because my fickle motivation prevents me from committing to tasks
>>7149751I dont see a distinction. I draw what I want and if that includes titties then so be it. Every since I started drawing figures and gesture my art has been much better.
Do OCs attract enough attention or do you need to start with characters from certain popular media?
>>7150275Do you know any coom OCs examples that "made it big"?Coom artists are famous because of their personal art style and creativity. I wonder if now that's in jeopardy with AI flooding the market/scene.
I don't know if I could even bother bringing myself to be a coom artist when it's all turning into either flat out AI gens or traced over AI gens for maximum output. I've seen twitter accounts do crazy numbers really fast because they spam AI gens and sometimes they don't bother state it's AI till they get a huge following. They also do great numbers on patreon which makes me wonder why even bother doing art organically anymore. Sure you could draw for fun but if you post it online you can have your art trained on and someone else can make money off your work with disgusting fetishes anyway
>>7150286It's all boiling down towards the human performance act in its purest form, wich is good for "real artists". If you can record your work in the making and do streams or whatever, you will be like a mythical creature doing live magic on the screen. It will be like, I dunno, watching a dog talk or a living dinosaur. See what I'm saying? And you don't have to fall into coom to take advantage of that. On the contrary, free awesome coom is what people are seeking when accessing AI right now."Real Art" will go back to be "special" and interesting.
>>7149751>How did your life change after embracing being a porn artist?My art finally have fans.
>>7149787You convinced me to start drawing coom. Thx.
>>7149751kek when you spent 5000 hours drawing titties and 45 minutes on hands. coomer artists are the skip leg day of the art world
>>7149751>How did your life change after embracing being a porn artist?I've realized that just because I'm selling out, doesn't mean anyone will buy.
>>7149751>How did your life change after embracing being a porn artist?It changed because now I make money from my OCs and random anons jack off to them. It's great to see fanart of them with big asses.
>>7149824>Haha now I'm in poverty.Just start drawing l0l1 again.
>>7149862>The trick is to get viral. Once you do. Easy money.Back in 2022, an anime animator went viral on Twatter because of their Loid x Yor nsfw anime.Their patreon skyrocketed overnight, they went from a couple thousand to 20k+ per month.
>>7149874>you're just a creep.Women should be banned on 4chan they're huge faggots and even gay dudes are more tolerable.
>>7149912>i get laughed at on discord from you guys saying is that all that you care about? then i have to reply back and say yes, then somebody will say why do you want followers. then i say why not, lets' just not have anything and be happy in the dirt where we belong.You're dealing with crabs and hobbyists, real & pro artists will actually give you advice and encourage you because in the future you may help them or someone else.
>>7150555The guy obviously can draw fucking good hands. In fact he mogs you in every single aspect of illustration. You are just showing how much of a fucking beginner you are.
>>7149933>BasedNow the other anon have to post their socials too or else they lose this debate.
>>7150593There are no women in 4chan. Aside from chuds, only trannies and faggots.
>>7150600You are conflating based with dunning kruger. The guy is absolutely oblivious on how bad his art is. He thinks he's decent, while in reality he's beginner tier level. There's nothing wrong with being at that level of course. The issue is that he lacks self awareness, hence dunning kruger.
>>7150602Are you guys talking about the wrestling "commission" dude? I believe he's larping big time. I don't see who would periodically spend money on that thing he does. Having so much better options already for that fetish art.
>>7150593>womenit's a tranny
>>7150156>i am going to draw kittens being poured into meat grinder and being turned into hotdogs that are shoved in the buttholes of jews.
>>7150156The problem is they targeted all my social and got them banned pr shadow banned. And probably pinned my current ones.
Why is it every fucking week there's a thread with people whining about why they aren't getting likes on their art and asking how they can get followers. The answer is ALWAYS draw better.People retweet art they like and want others to see, that's it. If you believe that what people think has no value, then why are you trying to get likes?
>>7150655There's a lot of dumb people online.
What shocked me about drawing porn, having an audience and having money was how little it did to get rid of my imposter syndrome.I still hate my art and I hate myself and I struggle with suicide every day.I had like, one day of excitement. "Holy shit, followers, money, I'm gmi!"Now I'm just miserable like I was at the start. It's like nothing at all changed, I still want to die.
>>7150655No, the answer is draw fotm.Doesn't matter how much work you put into your art, doesn't matter how technically skilled or proficient or meaningful what you make is, what gets the numbers is cheap easy coom of fotm. This is measurable fact, every time.What's important is getting followers that are worth a damn. 100 people who understand you and love your work are worth 10,000 coomers that are just there to tug their peens to whatever anime slop happens to be trending. Financially, maybe not, but spiritually, it's the only sustainable option.Clout chasers live lives of sin. They have imbibed a social poison that will slowly eat them alive.
>>7149751Its complicated since I'm also pursuing a teaching career. I keep my internet activity very separate from real life but I'm afraid of being found out. I'm not ashamed of drawing porn at all and if it weren't so detrimental to my career I would be more open about it.
I'd be embarrassed to tell anyone I work in porn anything. The whole industry is full of really weird ass people and it's not something to be proud of from a normal stance.
>>7151691It's not something to be proud of from ANY stance, period. I will never not be disgusted that this is how I pay my bills. It's shameful and gross and like a battered drug addicted woman, I'm only doing it because I failed at everything else. I have an IQ of 71, I am literally unable to do anything else.Please don't keep normalizing coom. Some things are shameful for a reason and should stay shameful.
>>7149751My family looks me with disgust and my gf thinks that I'm a filthy degenerated, apart from the fact that I cry myself to sleep thinking about the filthy shit that I have to do for my degenerate fans I feel good.
>>7151705My iq is 130, if you feel disgusted imagine myself that I had a future...
i didnt think about it nor care. whether im a porn artist or concept artist, im still an artist.
>>7149751I don't really know. On one hand I'm a total newbie to this stuff, and its really noticeable when I try to manage this "business".Other artists do not give a shit about me thats for sure, maybe give me a pity follow and like, as I'm mostly ignored. I expected more people do be open up, encouraging and whatnot, but that didn't happen, as I realized art at least for me is going to be a very lonely. (just like IRL). So I kinda gave up on that and started think of art more like a business and less of buddy-thing. I'm even considering doing comms via skeb only.At first I wanted to be more of a "friend" to other people but there is a disturbingly high percentage of mentally ill individuals, who also just pretty much drop you and move on. Adding people on a friends list doesn't mean jack shit, and I had to learn this the hard way. I would never even consider myself as a normal, hell I draw some nasty stuff, thats for sure, but holy fuck dude. These "cabals" or whatever filled with so mentally ill people make me look like a healthy person.It gives a bit of confidence that some people ask for commissions, I still have a hard time believing that others want to see what I do. As for the other side of the pendulum, there are a lot of beggars, trying to be your "friends" just so you draw free shit for them. Then there is the "eeerm... I think it should be like that instead", and we are on the 14th revision.
>>7151705Your indoctrinated puritan brain is showing.
>>7152287A lot of what you describe is just common internet behavior. True friendships are rare as fuck, most are just for benefits.As for revision fags, assuming you mean for commissions and such, make it a rule. Price includes up to 3 revisions, further ones cost X each.
>>7150599who is it?
>>7150141>It was more rewarding being commissioned to do a dark fantasy cover for less than 100$ than getting paid 1200$ for a "public use" nsfw illustration.That will literally lead you to having to get a 9-5. You should appreciate that people are willing to pay you for both.
It's horrible soul crushing work.I'm looking for any excuse to kill myself at this point honestly.I used AI for a while but it got boring even faster than drawing did.There's no point to any of this is there? I never wanted to be born anyway.
>>7149909>>7150593>>7150617I like how none of you creeps disagreed with being called a creep. If hell was actually a thing then you'll all be there first.
>>7152788Embrace it. What is it that produce guilt in side you? Family? Friends? Let the ego go, let THEM go, they have their own troubles and dark demons, you're not important to anyone. One day this whole human civilization won't exist anymore, it will not even be remembered. But you're alive NOW, this little bit of time that you exist is a miracle, own it, embrace it, it is JUST FOR YOU. Fuck everyone else.
>>7152287where do you post to get comms? just Xitter and random discords and people just randomly find your stuff and comm you?
>>7152461If you try doing an animation you'll immediately see why its a very bad idea to engage with people who like wasting your time. >>7152810pixiv mostly, as imo its the absolute best so far for me. I just got dms there or discord, as I didn't even announce I have open comms, despite being an extremely small artist.
>>7149787nice job, do u get most of ur patreons from twitter? what do u provide at the 3 dollar and 5 dollar tier?
>>7149751I got to around 10k followers, eventually realized that it was eroding my soul and completely destroying my love of art and nuked my account. Now I have a fraction of the followers and absolutely look forward to drawing every day. Porn addiction is a blight. You will call me weak or cringe or whatever but I've been there and most of you haven't.
>>7153233I'm there currently and I want out desperately. But I can't take another hit in life, I've done nothing but fuck up, fuck up, fuck up, fuck up, fuck up.I'm committed for the sake of ego, either I die doing this or I pull up stakes and opt out of life entirely. I can't quit I just can't.
>>7149751What did you do to get to that level, I like the way you draw faces
>>7149933Oh it's you
>>7153247Toxic mentality that I had as well. You need to stop punishing yourself and start picking up real responsibility and trending upwards. The first step is to start cutting out vices, compulsions, and addictions. Nobody here who follows the dumb "I WILL DO NOTHING BUT DRAW AND HATE IT" mentality from this place is good at art or has had any real success from it. You're being a cruel and abusive taskmaster, if you wouldnt treat a child like that then why would you treat yourself like that?
>>7149751It paid my bills and let me draw my own stuff for fun without having to worry about making it marketable.
>>7153260I would treat a child like this honestly. Children are horrible little monsters that deserve nothing but pain.
>>7153260My biggest addiction is monster energy drink. I'm not even joking. Its just so extremely convenient to drink one while drawing girls with gigantic animal penises, as hardcore techno is playing.It reminds me of the days when I played GTA2 with that angry japanese girl screaming.
>>7153247>Imagine killing yourself over an account that's just 10k. Lmao Honestly, if people have been genuinely putting in the effort to improve their art and consistently posting, reaching at least 10k once in your life time is so fucking easy. Don't be a drama queen.>>7153209>do u get most of ur patreons from twitter?ty. I just have Twitter and FB page, and probably 90% of the people come from Twitter. People post my art on all kinds of art groups so that's also a huge help. >what do u provide at the 3 dollar and 5 dollar tier?3 dollar for access to all my art in high res, 5 dollars are PSD files. 8 dollars for tutorials.
>>7149787I have 2-3 notifications a month on Patreon and I have mad anxiety to check them over every time, because I know it's either a sub or a cancelation I have like 20 patreons consistently for a year, and it's very painfull to see the number go up and down and always be the same
>>7153836did you check a buncha other patreons to set ur price? do u think 3 dollars is the best entry tier, arent theyre a bunch who are at 5 dollars, do u just do pinup or simple lewd arts? do u just upload at the end of every month?
>>7154142I felt that way too, then I just accepted that fluctuation as part of the process. It's normal to lose some people at the end of the month, and I always gain them back. >>7154235>did you check a buncha other patreons to set ur price?yes>do u think 3 dollars is the best entry tierIt depends on the content you're offering within that tier. If you consistently provide multiple pieces of art each week, then raising the price to $5 appears justified, provided your artistic skills match the value.>do u just do pinup or simple lewd arts?High res full color pin up with different variations, monthly poll, PSD/CSP files, time lapse, art suggestion privilege, discord benefits and art tutorials. >do u just upload at the end of every month?Every Friday.
>>7154305did u do anything special to get out of the no view twitter void, did u just post consistently?
>>7150157NTA, what's the point of having friends if they're not even worthy of getting a so-trivial fact about yourself?
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