Picrel makes me depressed, I'm clearly doing something wrong.
>>7161011>I'm clearly doing something wrong.browsing reddit
It's really not an abnormal amount of improvement for someone putting in consistent work. I'm not even talking about le 25hrs a day grind, just a solid 1 to 2 hours on most days of the week.
>>7161046>It's really not an abnormal amount of improvement for someone putting in consistent work.I just checked that person and the pic on right is their level after 1.5 year since they started drawing from zero. They bought a few Coloso courses like Okku and Marc Brunet's course but most of what they know, they learned from watching Twitch and Youtube streams.It's funny how a few comments said that they're drawing for 7~10 years and they're still on that guy level. Permabegs are so pitiful.
>>7161050>they're still on that guy level.They're below that guy level.
>>7161050>a few comments said that they're drawing for 7~10 years and they're still on that guy level. That's just not even possible if you actually draw. People who say that must draw for like an hour every couple of months. Like unless you have an actual developmental handicap, you can figure out a lot of fundamentals just by putting in the work. Even something as rigid as a course isnt all that necessary.
>>7161011I like the first pic :^)
>>7161011did you forget what happened to the world between 2020 - 2022?
>>7161055Yeah, especially early on, putting any amount of work sees huge improvement, I have no fucking idea how anyone can stay at maximum beg longer than a couple months unless they absolutely never draw.
>>7161011Anon, it's easy to improve when you're a beginner. Don't worry about them.
>>7161011This dude could be drawing and studying for 8 hours a day if not more, especially during lockdown.Be honest anon, how much do you draw and study in a day? Barely one hour? Yeah you don't get to complain when you don't put in the work, nigga.
>>7161011sovl vs soulless
>>7161328you don't draw
I started drawing in 2022I'm still a beginner, but I'm making slow progress
>>7161334I do tho
>>7161337pyw then
>>7161327this unironically. >story/background/cutesoul>girl in white void/coomsoulless
May 2023
>>7161203Shut the fuck up nigger crab you don’t even draw LMAOOO just how so we can laugh
>>7161348May 2024
>>7161349>just how so we can laugh???are you a bot or just retarded?
>>7161364I think he’s having a stroke…
>>7161055>That's just not even possible if you actually draw. People who say that must draw for like an hour every couple of months.I been drawing for almost 6 years and I'm worse than OP's picrel. I draw every week (not every day tho) and I'm still shit so either I'm dumb, old or I have zero aptitude for drawing (most likely) To be fair it seems that artist actually watched his video courses instead of just hoarding so there's that.
>>7161328Based tradfag now post your work.
>>7161348>>7161351Nice job! Anon what did you do to improve this much? Any course or book?
>>7161011I just checked the reddit post and most comments are either coomers going feral because of le panties or woke faggots complaining that she's sexualized.Very few actually talk about the artist improvement. Humanity is sick.
>>7161328I kneel, tradbvll..
>>7161328>not drawing a pepe in trad for this postyou lost
>>7161364Are you black or just a nigger
>>7161384I alternate between drawing from reference and drawing from imagination, if i ever get in a rut i draw requests from the Drawthreads, but the big thing is i rarely draw what i’m comfortable drawing. Also draw porn to really get some good figure drawing in
>>7161435>Also draw porn to really get some good figure drawing inYou saw this here: >>>7161645
>>7161797Actually I didn’t though it is a funny coincidence. Porn’s not instantly going to help you either. I didn’t start drawing from porn until 3-4 months ago, but it really dis help me once I had some basics and a bunch of figure drawing under my belt.
>>7161803>it really dis help me once I had some basics and a bunch of figure drawing under my belt.What basics anon? form? shape language? light and shadow? proportions? color? what else?
>>7161425Not even that guy but I did these guys as a gift for my gf for one Halloween.
>>7161904Based.
>>7161904holv sovltrad chads stay winning
>>7161902Proportions, gesture, and anatomy
>>7161011Im going to openly cheat and make the comparison line a little wider and I have a very good reason for that.I will say, though, compared to a year ago, I've done improvements on my overall workflow and speed, now I can output pieces faster and draw more comfortably, it doesnt outright translate to an art skill overhaul, but it means a big change and we'll see where it takes me in the future.
>>7161971I like both versions but I'm an animation fan so 2021 version is cooler.
>>7161011>just copying some photo >digitalwow, so much improvement
>>7161011>compare with something drawn 6 years ago>claim it's 1 year apartIt is easy to lie anon.
>>7161055Bingo. It's because they've never drawn that much, or whenever they draw they always draw the same thing using the same method, never trying anything new. No shit you won't get any gains if all you do is repeat the same ineffective shit.
>>7162033>just copying some photo>>7162037>compare with something drawn 6 years ago>claim it's 1 year apart>>7162042>It's because they've never drawn that muchYou guys are hilarious, any retard that takes more than 2 weeks to go from left to right in improvement is 100% NGMI.
>>7161971>it took him 3 years to find a textured brush to render some spheres on a cartoonI didn't believe in permabegs but i kind of do now
>>7162047And I sure believe in you, my fellow nodraw! One day you shall find your way into drawing.>>7162017I sure dont like 2021's version. For some reason my faces were so messed up back then it's jarring to see some of the draws of that time, specially the ones of my blondie.I do keep my un-shaded lineless style, though, which is what I assume you like about the old one.
>>7161011not that much but oh well
not a fair comparison, but i only started doing finished pieces 2 months ago. left is first time drawing from imagination vs 2 weeks ago.
>>7162070holy dunningsi really hope you're just pretending to be mentally ill
>>7162095>You're mentally ill for saying you believe in meee!!A-anon, are you okay...?
>>7161971Great improvement, keep up the good work
>>7162078>>7162071>>7161971>>7161351>>7161336Good progress.Keep at it kings.
>>7162042This is what most people don’t realize about improving, its like lifting, yeah if you go and throw the bar up it’ll be easy and you can actually do it, but the diminishing returns of doing just that will quickly stall your progress.
pretty slow at actually finishing stuff so most of what I'm working on now was started months ago. But managed to find some examples.
>>7162070>I do keep my un-shaded lineless style, though, which is what I assume you like about the old one.I like flat colors and flat art styles so I prefer the not rendered style. By the way anon don't mind that crab trying to pull you back in the bucket, like you said they don't draw while you draw.Keep up at it! Good job!>>7162071You did improve but I like the old one more, it's cute :)>>7162078Nice! Try to draw with references anon the muscles are a bit too much.>>7162095Pyw>>7162101Ignore that schizo they don't draw>>7162547Nice art anon but work on your colors, learn some color theory or don't color because they're bringing your lines down.Colors can make or break art like picrel.
>>7162603I'm gonna go with learning colour theory, I understand what you mean as my choice of colors aren't really working out as I'd hope. My values are also quite off but I'm gonna keep at it because I really want to introduce colour to my work.
You told me I got worse.
Trying to improve my speed, anatomy, and perspective, though I want to try more backgrounds and complex rendering in the future.
7162603>Nice art anon but work on your colors, learn some color theory or don't color because they're bringing your lines down.Colors can make or break art like picrel.Actual ill intended crab advice>>7162547You should work on your anatomy first. The colors are ok for your current level but nothing to worry about --yet--.
>>7162794Thanks for the advice! Gotta really take the time to actually study anatomy. It seems to be one of the main parts that is bringing the quality down. Have to make a plan and grind the fundementals in between projects
>>7162796Learn to construct and build bodies using shapes. This will elevate your drawings and skill. No need to do insane grind, just learn to use construction.
>>7162794>ill intended crab advice>You should work on your anatomy first.>The colors are ok for your current level>>7162796>Thanks for the advice!Anon the other guy is the real crab ITT if you don't work on your color theory and focus on anatomy then it'll take years to get out of /beg/ and when you do your art will look like picrel.Color can turn mediocre art into decent art but it can also ruin good art like those DC recolorings.
>>7162798>Learn to construct and build bodies using shapes.The crab gave some real advice here but otherwise ignore him.
>>7162824>DC recoloringsThere's plenty of DC comics that were ruined because of a different colorist. You do you.
>>7162824Yeah I’m not really taking advice as 100% given. Like of course I’ll still use colour and draw bodies etc etc. I’ll never blindly follow advice without some of my own research and needs taken into account. Just gotta keep drawing
>>7162046pyw, crab.
How much fundies grinding and studies of other artists did you guys had to do per day before your art significantly evolved? (Specifically asking people who were once stuck at high beg/low int stage for too much time, but eventually managed to progress further)I've recently been picking up Keys To Drawing after years of not getting beyond the first 20 pages, and despite exclusively progressing through rote drawing for fun all this time, it's surprising I can understand the book and do exercises much more efficiently than I did back when I was a full blown beginner. My ability of drawing from life/photos also improved as well despite spending the vast majority of my journey purely drawing from imagination with references for specific minor things, which is kinda nice.
>>7162046pyw
>>7162887>How much fundies grinding and studies of other artists did you guys had to do per day before your art significantly evolved?I don't grind fundies nor do I study other artists.All I do is watch video courses and read books.
>>7162883>crabProjection.
I rarely study and I only draw when I feel like it and it probably shows
>>7163119Can you pyw?
Did I improve?
>>7163405I’m not familiar with pixel art like this but I’ll have to say yes. There’s a tighter control of values and color, as well as a better sense of depth.
>>7163141>>7163405I dunno if you guys improved but I like your art.
>>7162741You’re clearly trying with anatomy and perspective. Try shading more complex than cell shading, though. Learn about planes.
>>7163405nice art
>>7162887I don't do fundies.I take pictures of real people or art I like, and I try to decompose them and reproduce them as best I can. I don't know if it works.The only "fundies" I do is Bridgeman.
>>7163141wownice anon
this is like my 100 days of progress so far
I really wish the insanity of conceptart dot org sketchbooks still existed for viewing. To this day I don't think anybody progressed like algenpfleger.
>>7161055I know so many people who've been "drawing for years" who've actually probably only drawn100 days total
I must know his secret
>>7161011That's pretty reasonable progress though, he just improved his poses and tightened his perspective a little.The colouring and lighting still leave a lot to be desired.
