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For stupid questions and questions that don't deserve their own thread.
Post here if you don't expect your thread to reach 100+ replies.
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Are there any anatomy books that cover ears? Stuff like loomis whatever is fine as long as it doesn't just brush it over
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>>7322841
I'm too lazy to ask
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>>7323350
Uldis Zarins has one on the head. You can also look at Goldfinger anatomy book.
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How do I know if I simply LIKE the idea of being an artist but not the actual process behind it? I don’t want to be a whiny howie permabeg, but for the last few months, all I’ve been able to think about is drawing.

Yet when I actually want to draw, I have zero ideas and just give up. It feels like a vicious cycle of pain. Yes, i have adhd but i don't think that affects me at all or my thinking
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>>7323484
Maybe you just like art. Making it is a different thing. But if you REALLY like art, you an always force yourself to make it. Which is what I do.
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How much time is too much to dedicate to a single gesture drawing for a beginner? Is five minutes excessive?
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>>7323532
Take as much time as you need as long as you learn it. Remember, once you truly learn/master/understand something once, you won't need to learn it again. That's what will save up time in the future.
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>>7322841
>Had an autistic super fixation on an anime
>Created a fan account on insta
>Posted art every day, got fans, offered commissions and paid my rent with them
>Couple years went by
>Lose interest in hyper fixation
>The series becomes irrelevant so less money I can make with it
>Not many people left in the community to spend money on coms anyway
>Tried to get into a new series, but nothing really made me stick
What now
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Will making timelapse videos of my art help me get better? Is there any reason to make them if I'm not going to upload it anywhere?
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do u guys wanna see more silly shit like this?
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>>7323591 ur a retard and shouldve already quit by now
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>>7323594
Why
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>>7323592
Anon your not even a beg you're a pre-beg. It's to early to expect people to show interest in your art.
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>>7323484
>How do I know if I simply LIKE the idea of being an artist but not the actual process behind it?

If you're not creating but talking as if you are. Starting a sentence saying
>as an artist
Lastly, you don't. That little cognitive dissonance can only go away when you have undeniable proof that you are and artist. Make sure you're in the arena. If it feels vague that's your mind telling you that you need to work. You don't have to ENJOY the process, more be willing to suffer the pain to get the results you want.
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How do you know when you’re ready to expand? When you have enough skill or standing to start carving a niche?
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>>7323699
Expand how? That's kinda vague
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how to accept commission payment without risking my personal life on the line (or at least lessen the impact) as in
>"job and personal life are separated"
I don't want to get cancelled for my (horny bdsm) art commission that will haunt me 20-30 years later just because I said something contrarian to the norm of that particular time and space in the future. currently I'm living a double life that's a total opposite sides.
>oil drill masters in the morning
>slut trainers at night
I'm well aware of the consequences irl but based on my observations in the past 10 years, the online repercussion is significantly severe to a person due to the eyes watching and reach it could get.
>tl;dr; foolproof way to get commission without stalkers trying to out your addresses
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What’s the general amount of monthly income that someone would believably make from art before someone just assumes you’re drawing porn?
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Is changing from drawing tablet to display a huge leap to your works? I have been using drawing tablet for years fr different brand with different size, still couldn't get used to it, cant draw a curve line or doing a good sketch like I did in my sketchbook.
>inb4 ask /dtg/
There's an ongoing war in there about shill and somesuch, wouldn't risk myself to ask a simple question like this.
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>>7323691
hows art school going bud
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>>7323733
~$2000
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>>7323735
not much of difference aside from being able to undo, a fraction of a cost on trying unlimited amount of different paint materials on a whim with predictable/controllable outcome and zooming in. the downside would be my eyes get tired so fast looking at the digital screens compared to the cloth canvas.
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>>7323770
I have been eyeing on a 13 inch display tablet (on a tight budget) right now, is 13 inch a minimum ideal screen size for display tablet? For comparison I have draw several things in my friend ipad before
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>>7322841
Any of you anons draw erotic art to sublimate your sexual fantasies? Does it actually work? I was a regular for a couple years, so I got the fundamentals to make something decent, but the way I see it, it could go one of two ways: either it integrates my sex drive in a way where I don't have to just kill it and live like a hermit as I've been doing for a couple months, or it just makes me terminally horny. Don't want to deal with the second option.
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>>7323783
if you travel a lot and love zooming in and it serves the purpose, sure why not. My ideal would be 22".
https://youtu.be/qd4OEaqV-rI
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>>7323981
I will try to get the display tablet then. I too would like to have a bigger screen, but my budget and desk are not letting me to get such enormous device, so I think I will be stuck with 14" or lower for a while.
Thanks for your response anon
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>>7323770
I don't think you understood the question. He's asking whether display tablets are easier to use than screenless.
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what's the best day/time to post your art on social media? I assume afternoon is the best time to post but what about days? Any day in particular?
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>>7324062
Honestly makes no difference if you have a global audience, there are only two days were I see views being negatively impacted which is Friday and Saturday
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>>7323826
It depends on how you go about it. You run the risk of combining your art drive and your sex drive in a way that’s almost like a drug. You could end up drawing a lot just to get a “quick fix” and not to actually improve. For me, it “cured” me in the long run, but I had to deal with a lot of internal conflict in the first few months to a year when it made me horny 24/7. If you don’t want to deal with that, then it’s just better not to start in my opinion. It feels like a huge waste of time even if you end up with a lot of art.
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which book will teach me how to start drawing instead of sitting and spacing out all day?
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>>7324291
The ADHD Toolkit
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How to make clothes appear baggy? Any tips?
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>>7323705
When you can start marketing, selling work, taking comms and things like that.
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>>7324479
If your art regularly gets 5-10k likes
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I'm making a harpy/birdman (non-furry) character that has a beak/bill for a nose, but i don't have that many examples to pull and inspire from.
Can anyone post more examples? All i got are celshade Zelda characters.
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Does anyone here have experience with shooting drawing ASMR videos? Something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/D3nK78LIJC0
I'm not sure what kind of camera, mic, and mount I'd need, or any sort of lighting setup. I was looking into getting a used point-and-shoot. Filming on my phone isn't an option because its camera sucks.
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>>7322841
How to not feel discouraged by the enormous amount of people who are also trying to make it as an artist? Many of them better than you. People with better art, better ideas, more experience...
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>>7323590
>He fall for the fanart meme
Serves you right
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>>7322841
Could anyone recommend me some good tutorials on how to use screentones on Krita? All the ones I found on Youtube are shit.
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if i dont know how to draw, how long would it take to get from 0 to pic related?
im new to this board and not familiar with the etiquette, so i'd like to clarify this is not my art obviously even though thats probably obvious
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how to draw like shadman?
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>>7326222
If you focus on just the stuff in that picture, about 2 to 3 years.
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>>7326222
1-2 years if you draw consistently. study basic anatomy and look at artists like alexandre cabanel, pierre auguste cot and of course leonardo da Vinci if you want a similar classicism style.
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Why do people waste money on commissions?
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>>7326298
why do you waste oxygen on breathing; kill yourself
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>>7326301
That didn't answer my question.
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>>7326298
Why do people buy anything that serves no purpose other than pleasure, like a fancy car, a nicer monitor, food outside of rice and beans? Because they want to
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>>7326298
because they can't draw
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What's good canvas size?
Generally I use 3000x3000 with 300 dpi.
But I sometimes see artists are using some huge canvas sizes like 5kx8k.
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>>7326264
>>7326266
thanks. i wonder if i should spend some time studying anatomy and art history first before even beginning to draw
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if you're using multiple references trying to draw a specific character, do the references have to be as close to the same angle as possible?

like if I had a face ref I wanted to use and a hair ref I also wanted to use but the problem was the hair ref is at an angle that doesn't translate well to the perspective of the face I wanna use, what should I do? try to make it fit and guess as best as I can how it would look or should I find a different reference that fits as close as possible?
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How do I start JUST DRAWing clothed figures? It feels so daunting for some reason, but drawing only naked people is starting to get boring.
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>>7326505
As big as your computer can handle. You can always downscale if you want to post to social media. Dpi doesn't matter unless you are printing your work, catgirl-kun.
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Opinions on painting memes?
Upside:they can be funny
Downside:im reproducing someone elses invention
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>>7326561
Hit anatomy hard immediately. Then get to a level where you’re comfortable with it enough to just warm up for 5-10 mins before jumping into a session if learning different things. You dont need your hands and eyes to learn art history. Just put on podcast or youtube or documentary or whatever in the background while you grind.
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>>7327079
Any good sources to learn anatomy?
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>>7327467
I study bridgman because I like the way he articulate the human body. You should look through all the resources available to see if there is something that appeal to you. I find it very boring when I study materials that I don’t particularly like.
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Is anyone into tattooing? Someone I know is part owner of a tattoo shop and let me know I can have a shot at apprenticeship maybe. I never picked up a tattoo gun before. What physical medium is best to practice with to simulate the feel of the needle? Like ink pens, or watercolor paint, alcohol markers, etc? I'd be making pages of flash art to start.
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should i put my blog up on tor or i2p?
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>>7323592
>>7323716
>>7324830
>>7326889
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>>7322841
How do you make your linework look good on it's own. The kind of art that doesn't even need rendering and shit to look decent?
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>>7328222
learn form
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what is sharty? i’ve seen this name on other boards and i’m curious
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>>7328241
If you have to ask, don't bother.
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Do you guys know any good places I can get some penis references?
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>>7328222
add brush jitter
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>>7328818
like real penis or anime penis?
human penis or horse penis?
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>>7328824
guess I've been a bit more specific.
But I would like to start with the human penis, learn its anatomy and balls too! (very important)
My ultimate goal is to translate that into an anime style penis.
Also a few other type of penis too like: Horsecock and dog knots.
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Can this really be considered a rakugaki...?
https://x.com/Remiri_nicoeli/status/1844357223331532893
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Is animation literally just drawing the same drawing slightly differently 30 times like a flip note to make it work? I’ve never done it before.

In theory, if I wanted to animate a girl smoking, I would just draw the first image, then draw her hand and mouth moving and the cigarette getting redder and brighter at the end, then make another 5 where her hand is moving away and the cig lightens and she blows out smoke?
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>>7328923
try it and find out
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>>7328926
No, you tell me the answer
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>>7322841
I'm trying to identify a "how-to-draw-comics" book with a specific subsection.
It explains how to depict impact in fight scene, over a few pages. Not just 'character A touching character B', but how to best depict both the force in the strike, and the effect on the target. Two characters, one punching another with different relative amounts of force, were depicted. One scene near the end - used to indicate super strength - involved the striker throwing a gentle blow that knocked the target away.
I'm tempted to say it was created by Marvel or DC.
Can anyone figure out what book I'm trying to recall?
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>>7328222
Forms, like anon said. And light/shadow. Set up some kind of reference for lighting and poses, even if its digital mannequins. Learn to draw simple forms in perspective.

Read Alphonso Dunn's pen and ink book, and do the exercises from the companion book, it will teach you line control amd good techniques.

Screengrab a page of a manga, turn the opacity down, and just start inking it to learn from it. Youll have to pay attention to what theyre doing with light and shadow, heavy and light objects, forms compressing against each other, etc. I think theres an old infographic from tealguy that explained line weight well but I don't have it anymore.
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If you were to write a japanese name with 4 characters on 2 lines, would it make more sense to be horizontal or veritcal?
>12
>34
or
>13
>24
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>>7328222
implied lines, line weight, optionally hatching, in addition to just getting better at drawing.
when it doubt, just look back to ye olde lineweight guy for guidance.
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>>7329151
I actually wanted something more similar to picrel (From the author of Ajin). The cartoonish/comic book look is what I want to avoid.
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What is it about the way Vilppu draws the sphere's that make them exhibit the sense of form/volume despite only begin drawn with lines? When overlapping two forms, how do you determine how much of the line gets to lay on top of another form (like, how do you know where to stop the line)?
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>>7329138
nevermind, uniqlo to the rescue
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>>7329172
the answer is still the same.
>line weight
check
>implied lines
check
>hatching
check

the same methodology translates to different art styles.
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>>7329199
Yeah youright. It's just applied diferently.
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>>7329172
You definitely want to read dunn and gutpill then
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>>7329289
>dunn and gutpill
>No results online
Could you send me a link
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>>7329358
Alphonso Dunn, “Pen and Ink Drawing: A Simple Guide”
https://www.amazon.com/Pen-Ink-Drawing-Simple-Guide/dp/0997046538/
Arthur L. Guptill, “Rendering in Pen and Ink”
https://www.amazon.com/Rendering-Pen-Ink-Techniques-Illustrators/dp/0823045293/
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>>7329367
Thanks
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Is Krita 1:1 with adobe? Does anyone use adobe/tablet through wine?
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>>7323350
Any anatomy book can cover ears, you just need two of them
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How important is to flip the canvas?, this one for example looks decent to me but if you were to flip it the errors would become apparent.
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Is trad better than digital for learning fundies because you can't ctrl z and have to draw more or live with your mistakes? Not talking about finished pieces or techniques, just practice.
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>>7329549
Yes, also you get more tactile and visual feedback (with no delay) when you're handling a physical pen/pencil. More direct control, less guesswork about how the digital brush will respond, so you can focus on anatomy/whatever rather than micromanaging your brushstrokes.
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What type of blue is pepes tshirt? Some kind of light cobalt or ultramarine?
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Does drawing from the shoulder actually matter if you're doing digital? I have a Samsung Galaxy S8 and while the screen is large, I feel I get more mileage just using my wrist/elbow.

Is drawing "small" (taking up maybe ~2000 pixels of space per figure) really that bad? I've had people tell me I should aim to take up more space, but whenever I draw "small" my stuff looks way better and is easier to do.
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>>7329850
Do what works.
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>>7329850
It's completely fine do what works best for you. but drawing from shoulder or even elbow is better for your physical health and can give you more control for large strokes.
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After how much reference studying will you be able to do shading from imagination? An artist posted picrel on Twitter and I tried imagining where I would place the shadows here. And I just can't wrap my head around it.
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>>7329850
do what you see works. people are full of shit and the advice they tell you is garbage.
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>>7330000
RSI isn't made up.
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>>7329992
doesn't matter, you're not going to take any criticism from anyone on here anyways
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>>7328923
Serious answer:
There are different levels of organization to animation based on the scope of the project. Meaning what kind of movement you are doing, the length of it, how polished you want it, and so on.

Flipbook-style animation like you described is fine for practice and making short reverse-loops. Longer things require you plan out some thumbnails and use keyframes, then draw the in-betweens. Even more complex? Plan out a storyboard. If it gets long, like several minutes then you need to break out time sheets and so on.

Think about it:
A single animation at 24 FPS has usually got 1 drawing from every 2 to 6 frames. This means 12-4 drawings per second of animation. 2 minutes is 480 animated frames at minimum (you save a LOT by reusing frames, such as in still shots or looping mouth movements.)

Keeping track of 480 pictures purely in your head, or doing it in one shot, is not something even savants can do. Plans and records help immensely with organizing such things.
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>>7329640
Picking the color gives the hex code #2649fd , or the RGB code 38, 73, 253
Entering that into encycolorpedia: https://encycolorpedia.com/2649fd

Returns a very close color in Games Workshop's Soulstone Blue.
That's not really a usable color since it's made for translucent gemstone effects.

A bit more research messing with various paint mixing sites to try to match this hex code made me think that this blue is likely outside the normal color space for trad art. And looking at a color space chart showed this is probably the case.

You may be able to get it with a fluorescent blue, or by mixing a fluorescent blue with either of your guesses, but you won't get the exact match due to it being an eyebleedingly bright color.

>>7329850
Make sure your tablet is in front of your drawing arm, not centered on your body. Use your fingers if you can't use your arm. NEVER use your wrist, you will give yourself health problems longterm.
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>>7330008
(ironically, im the only person I know who never has wrist issues)
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>>7328926
>>7330013
Didn’t expect serious answer.

Is it over? This is the first thing I ever tried to animate and just winged it off imagination and my visualization of a simple combo but was surprised by how long it took (like 30 minutes of dicking around) for just this. I know the hop on the switch kick needs to be fixed and improved but I might do that later.
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>>7330122
anon you need to go look at animation stuff and see how they do keyframes. all the inbetween motions should come later. and yeah animating takes a long time. even for professionals it takes a long fucking time, that's why animations are simplified with less shading and why movies have better animation than TV, because there's more budget
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>>7326824
Learn folds
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>>7330122
>30 minutes
animation is time consuming as all hell especially when you are going at it with no experience
most animation courses start you with basic exercises such as different bouncing balls (up and down, moving, bouncing around the screen, etc) and then move up to walk cycles that start simple and get increasing complex + more detailed.

What you did, considering you had 0 experience and still cranked it out in 30 minutes, was pretty good all things considered.
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>>7330122
Thats a pretty good start. I think you should try reading The Animator's Survival Kit by Richard Williams, it explains a lot and if you put the work in I think you could make some cool shit.
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Where do you guys post studies/copies? I feel like it isn't really worth it to make social media but I want to keep a timeline of my work
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>>7323591

I'm not sure if it will help you get better but it may grow your followers on instagram.
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>>7330740
Twitter.
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>>7327895
Honestly, you should get a cheap tattoo gun set, gloves, and some lining and shading needles, then practice on fake skin (expensive), pig skin from the butcher (realistic and cheaper but gross), or fruit with fleshy rind like oranges and grapefruit (sounds weird but great practice, dont eat it after though).

You need to go deep enough that the ink is deposited past the epidermis into the dermis but not so deep that it gets into the fat - which doesnt hold ink, and not to mention you would hurt and scar the shit out of a real person. Definitely practice this on some pig skin to get a good feel for it, theres a certain way it looks/feels for the needles to pierce at the right angle and depth. Lines will look clear, not blown out or blurred, and not like small dots. The tattoo gun only goes back and forth in a straight line or in small oval motions, dont go side to side. Idk how to really explain this but you can look on youtube at tattoo courses.

You'll want to also learn how to use the transfer sheet and practice letters and numbers, not just drawing. Get in the habit of keeping a hygenic workspace, cover your tattoo gun in the plastic sheath, and use a small disposable cup/lid for your ink instead of, god forbid, dipping straight into your bottle and contaminating it.

Ink and certain watercolors look closest to a tattoo if you're trying to design them. Cant remember the brand right now, but theres a specific one thats really good for it.

I don't think anything but a tattoo gun feels like a tattoo gun, so I don't really know what to suggest to you other than that. Rotary style pens are easy for beginners and you can get a decent cheap one on amazon, some come with a beginners kit - I wouldnt ever go using any of these on people, only on practice material. If even that is too expensive for you, I guess you can get lining needles and practice stick and poke style? I dont recommend that but its better than having zero needle experience.
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Does anyone have any tips for printing lineart onto watercolour paper along with any general recommendations for printers that are good for that sort of thing. I heard laser printers won't bleed the ink as much if at all but that's all I really know.
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>>7330838
I don't think anime copies and random studies are worthy to post on twitter right? Maybe I'm stupid idk
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>>7330945
Most printers can't handle watercolor paper at all because they top out at letter/a4 size. Even with that I'm pretty sure the texture of watercolor paper makes it useless for laser due to it needing to be pressed against a roller. You might damage the fuser or something from excess toner.

Best bet for transferring digital to watercolor is laser printing it reversed onto a normal sheet of paper, laying it face-down on the wc paper, and then using a colorless blender marker to force the toner onto the watercolor. You could also try printing it straight, rubbing the backside with chalk, and then carefully tracing the lines with a stylus.
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>>7331023
>I don't think anime copies and random studies are worthy to post on twitter right?

Are you kidding me, all this dude does is that and has like 100k followers
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Is hatching worth it as a shading technique? Is just so time-consuming compared to other methods. I feel like it would be best to only use hatching in specific scenes.
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>>7331074
its gud, use it however you like.
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>>7331074
>time consuming
practice line control, then its not
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>>7330945
Print on normal paper and then stick it under the watercolor paper on a bright lightbox. Trace away
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>>7331044
Exactly. Twitter is perfect for sketchbook blogs.
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>>7331044
>>7331141
Okay. I dont really care about followers though I just want to keep a timeline for myself. I guess I'll use twitter then, thanks
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>>7330172
>>7330196
Thank you for the guidance anons, I took a look at some tutorials and learned a bit about key frames and drawing the most important poses to save time. I don’t know if I’ll go anywhere with it in the future but animation seems kind of neat and an easy way to draw more even if it is often the same thing over and over.

I polished my shit a little more as well, maybe like an hour or so spent on it.
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>>7331185
Easy.
Settings, Privacy and Safety, Audience and Tagging
>Protect your posts
>Protect your videos
Turn off the contact suggesting to people you know as well.
Only people who follow you can see your posts now. Just don't ever accept a follow request.
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How quickly can I get the ability to draw at the level of pic related starting from nothing?
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>>7331407
Maybe 2 extremely intensive and soul crushing years.
4 or 5 if you consistently work hard and give yourself weekends to rest.
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>>7331489
damn what about if I have a 9-5 job and only draw for an hour or two each day
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>>7331490
Then I guess you need to make the practice you can do focused. You might make slower progress, but that's okay. Brent Eviston's book is a good starting point for learning how to draw. Also if theres theres nothing stopping you from drawing when you're bored at work or sitting on the bus or something, that can be a good time to get some practice in.
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>>7330043
Thanks. Maybe ill just use a other colour then.
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is krita a good program for drawing if im on linux?
i tried gimp because it was pre-installed but i find it unintuitive to use with my drawing tablet or really in general.
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So how do you start digital painting?

I can draw with graphite and pens realistically but I dropped out of school right before we were gonna learn to paint. Ive heard people say stuff like "just look at colors and shapes" but I still dont get it, whats the process? How do I make expressive brush strokes? How to paint?

Help
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whats the mega link with the new master academy refs
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>>7326260
Firstly, that's Shadbase, meaning it could be a collaboration of Spazkid (mostly), Zabbuk/ManiacPaint (if it's lolisho), Jlullaby, etc.
Secondly, Shadman did the coloring and aesthetics, so if you just want that, look there.
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>>7322841
Could someone explain phone styluses for me?
I have a normal, newish mid motorola phone and I can't figure out to save my life if there are cheap styluses with pressure sensitivity.
Ordered a CiSiRUN a moment ago and now I'm finding out pressure sensitivity might not be even achievable on my phone and that I could just buy an unpowered stylus. Might still keep it in case there will an actual opportunity to use it properly, but damn I'm miffed.
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>>7333008
Its just not compatible. If you dont have the motorola with a stylus your phone just isnt capable of it. You can use something like the sonarpen, thats probably your best bet for pressure sensitivity.
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>>7333040
>sonarpen
Yeah, too pricy to casually carry in the pocket. At least I know I will have to buy a proper tablet if I want to draw seriously digitally outside. Thanks!
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Is drawing furry fetish porn the fastest way to make bank as an artist?
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>>7322841
Is there an easy way to find the original images of someone who traces?
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>>7333594
Unfortunately, yeah. That or pokemon.
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>>7322841
i couldve sworn there was a boruu like site that featured animations. people would upload clips of classic disney stuff and add tags for who animated it. anybody know what im talking about?
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I probably should have come here first (I already posted this here >>7333562)

https://twitter.com/B_0_RUKIA

I want to commission this artist but he's expensive. I love the detailed rendering but are there artists out there who are just as good and will do it for cheaper? For that matter, what kind of techniques are being used here? I was told a combination of photobashing, 3d, and maybe even some AI is used

tl;dr was much effort actually put into the rendering
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>>7333008
>phone styli
if it isn't a samshit galaxy nope or a samshit galaxshit ultra, then its not worth it in any way lmao
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is there a way to clone a quick access set in clip studio? im making a new workspace and want to rearrange a few things but dont want to mess with the original set so i can switch between the two. making a copy set from scratch works but it'd take a good while.
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>>7333874
Sakugabooru
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>>7333958
that's gross anon, why did you made me click on that
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>>7334409
Gross? Elaborate plz
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Hey all. I’ve been selling prints of my work at my uni and have been pretty successful. I want to show off the work, but not just in the format of something you see on your wall. Im trying to get the smaller stuff exposed so I can make eventual profits off of the larger pieces. I want to ask ppl here what they think a good way to show this off is. A shirt? Maybe a sticker? Where could you see this being in a place you enjoy?
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>>7333594
There's a big market for cutesy childish sfw furries. And also pokemon.
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>>7334671
+ this. These two have been people’s favorites
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>>7331185
Maybe dont do that
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>>7334399
yeah that was it. thank you!
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who is this artist i forgot
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>>7334987
Was posting really easier than just right click google search?
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>>7334990
yes
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>>7334923
What in the actual fuck?
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are there still plenty of jobs for 2d animation or does everyone only wanna hire 3d now?
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1. does csp have perspective grids like picrel? or do i HAVE to draw them all out whenever i want to practice perspective. i know csp has a regular grid already
2. is drawing with a grid bad when you’re practicing? my art looks better when i use it.
3. if csp doesn’t have perspective grids what art program does

thanks in advance
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>>7334990
>google
nta, but it doesn't work. It didn't work for a good while.
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>>7322841
how many people do you think actually frequent this board? is there an actual stat somewhere or can we only estimate
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>>7335452
https://4stats.io/
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>>7335270
You can set up rulers that make perspective grids, yeah.

Nothing wromg with using the grid to your advantage.

If you ever have need of a perspective grid in a program that doesnt have them, just make one in a program called carapace by epic.
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>>7335810
I cant believe there are boards slower than this one.
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how do you handle social media as an artist who does both sfw and nsfw stuff, especially if the latter one includes niche fetishes?
i really want to get into the habit of uploading my drawings, but i'm absolutely terrified of friends finding out about the things i'm interested in and worry they'd just distance themselves from me because they think i'm gross.
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>>7336657
One account for sfw, one for nsfw. Easy.
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>>7333958
Just looks like he drew the character into a photo to me
Floor shadow makes it look like there was someone there in the original photo so maybe he photoshopped them out first
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>>7336832
Thats exactly what he did.
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Is this art commercial?
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>>7336778
but how do i stop my friends to find out about my deranged double life?
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>>7336882
Dont link to the nsfw one from the sfw one.

If they find out and ask you, deny it.
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How do I get better at drawing from imagination? I've been copying and it's nice to see myself get better at that, but I'd also like to start drawing from imagination and progress both skills.
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>>7337281
Work a lot on construction of basic forms so you can get good at placing them in 3d space to establish what you’re imagining. Drawing from life also helps because it’s easier to mentally recall something that you drew in the real world vs a picture imo
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ive went from squares to boxes to skeletons and now im ready for the next stage. what should i do now? i can elaborate if anyone wants.
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is this an actually a good roadmap for a /beg/ or is this a trap
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>>7337438
this seems like a convoluted and spastic way of saying "draw shit you like, incorporate fundies, and analyze your work so you can improve your speed/accuracy/general workflow as you learn"
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>>7337446
> "draw shit you like, incorporate fundies, and analyze your work so you can improve your speed/accuracy/general workflow as you learn"

do you think that’s a good roadmap? i’ve been drawing passively but i need some concrete goals so i can improve faster. e.g, get good at x and after x you get good at y and so on and so forth.
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>>7337438
Seems fine to me. Its structured similarly to atelier colleges.
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Do I have to polish my figure study sketches if I just want to learn how to do poses? What do I have to gain from it?
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Is there a tutorial to render like this? or similars?
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>>7337987
You should polish them to work on line work. If you do that, your lines should become more confident. They don't have to be finished or anything.
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>>7338453
I see... thanks.
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>>7335070
pls answer
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Anyone got any guides for working with monochrome + hard shadows? Something like Himukai's style. It looks simple enough but then you encounter stuff like 2 dark areas and using white outlines instead to separate them
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>Have a good idea for a drawing
>Start working on it
>Eventually it starts to look bland and boring

Does this happen because I spend too much time on a single piece? Or does it mean that the drawing really is boring?
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so the external oblique is what dictates whether or not a guy has a more triangular shape or a rectangle one, right? that and the lats/traps
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>>7338846
I was gonna get angry, but then I realized what thread this is. Of course you're going to get bored. You think excitement to create thing is supposed to last for hours and days on end? I don't agree with a lot of what sam hyde says but the best advice he gave was "You get to be creative for 15 minutes coming up with the idea, the rest is work" A lot of comedy animators and I guess people who create sketches in general have to deal with this because yeah what you're creating would be funny, but it's not going to be as funny to you if it takes months to create. The same thing goes for drawing, you get your drawing down with energy and enthusiasm, try to keep that energy as you pile fundamentals to make it look solid, maybe ask someone else if it still has that energy because you've been looking at it for hours and you're desensitized to it. Sometimes the idea you're excited about and spend hours on can be a complete dud when you look at it next day though, that's why seeing what other people think matters.
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>>7339024
No. Its going to be muscle and fat distribution. More bulk on the upper torso = triangle shape

Pic on the left at least looks somewhat real, right is awfully skinny like theyve cut his obliques off.
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>>7339024
Having been in the body building area, when building your contour, if you're like me and have shit obliques you have to work up your side delts to get that triangle illusion (and quads to make your obliques look smaller) In terms of drawing just draw a triangle as a gesture then add your muscle. A thin waist does contribute to it but as the other anon said it's more upper torso work.
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>>7339047
That's what I thought. Thanks. Just wanted to make sure it's normal.
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>>7339055
>>7339077
thanks
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>>7322841
Working on translating a character design into a 64x64 sprite (to be animated).
Wheres a good place to look for high quality pixel art? I need some refs to help me decide between doing something more chibi or regularly proportioned.
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sometimes i draw on my phone using my finger. will practicing with my finger not let me learn anything or mess up my muscle memory?
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>>7339637
It might mess with muscle memory. Just get one of those touch styluses man you can get them for $1
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Why Japanese artists are sometimes typing 'rehabilitation' when posting drawing on twitter, despite drawing constantly?
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any good resources for learning how to shade like this?
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>>7322841
Do you think the Pareto principle applies to learning art? In other words, if I study for 10,000 hours, will 80% of my progress occur in the first 2,000 hours or is progress linear?
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>>7340800
> is progress linear?

Hahahahahaha No. That 10,000 hrs thing is a meme, of course you're going to get somewhere doing something for 10,000 hours. The best way to see progress is to have a curriculum, set standards and benchmarks, look at the most terrible person who's doing what you're doing with actual results and make that your goal, then find the second next person and keep going.
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I'm trying to get back into watercolor and want a nice sturdy board to stretch my paper on. anything that's good and cheap?
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what happened to the art book thread?
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>>7322841
can someone redline this for me pls
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krita art fren told me I should use dynamic brush tool as opposed to freehand brush tool, have been for about 2 months, do I switch back to freehand or does it not really matter? not sure how wise it is to use dynamic in the long run
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>>7334011
bump. real odd if you can't do this.
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Am I improving too slowly? How can I accelerate my gainz?
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does anyone have RETARD, perma/beg/ proof guides to heads, hands, and perspective? not loomis. give me stuff you'd give dummies. i'm realizing a lot of what i want to draw can't really be achieved with anime/cartoon faces (nosebleeds and ugly characters for example)
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>>7343059
Sorry to say Loomis /is/ the retard permabeg-proof guides to heads. Generally people turn their nose up because they think it's too limited, but once you know all the landmarks the Loomis head can easily translate to any type of head you're looking to draw, even anime heads and creature designs. Learn the Loomis head but develop it with life/artist studies.
Bridgeman is good for hands, understanding the construction of a hand (Loomis again) is important but Bridgeman's gesture will make your hands look good. Also, again, life/artist studies.
Perspective is much easier, just make sure things further from the camera are smaller/closer together and you're set. Perspective can also be "good enough" because IRL ground is never truly flat and environments aren't laid on grids. Watch some Kim Jung Gi drawing sessions to pick up how he does intuitive perspective. Moving around basic cubes in Blender is also a good way of planning out a perspective-heavy composition.
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>>7341230
right here: >>7324185

but what happened to the last self promo thread. I don't see it in the archive and there was someone I wanted to follow...
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>>7322841
Some Anon said begs should do "Krenz" to learn how to draw on a now archived thread, and didn't elaborated what "doing Krenz" exactly means.
I know it's name of an illustrator, and... do his what, exactly? Was he referencing a specific tutorial or something?
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>>7322841
how do you download/extract ebook from Fliphtml5?
https://fliphtml5.com/fgdwf/lqlp/basic
https://fliphtml5.com/fgdwf/jech/basic
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any english resources that teach light/shadow like this
https://x.com/hongsung0819/status/1849361624924295574?s=46
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>>7343342
may as well post the second image fuck it
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>>7343219
All I remember was Krenz cut up and traced a bunch of shit. Maybe there was some tutorial he did back in the day to try and explain himself idk. That shit is ancient history.

Just go do bargue plates if you want to learn how to copy.
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are there any good books for learning to draw gestures?
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do women’s iliac crests ever fold over like the left? is their bellybutton ever above the waist?
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>>7344301
Generally no, although fat pads on the side of the torso can create this appearance if she has the right kind of fat distribution, or her torso is bending to the side.
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which body part should i start practicing first as a beg. i was thinking hands or feet since they’re pretty major.
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>>7346397
You shouldn't specialize too much early on. The most important part is how the head, rib-cage and pelvis all relate to each other and how the spine connects them all. This is a lot to take in so we start with simplified versions. Boxy, round and more complex forms all have their uses, so you practice all of them to learn the pros and cons of each approach.
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>>7346433
could you elaborate more? i'd like to hear about this. some more context about my position: i've been doing simplified skeletons for a bit now; a couple a day for a month. i've been copying from the skeleton part of fun with a pencil and sometimes attempting them without any references. i also sometimes look at some images i like and turning them into skeletons. the image i've attached is a skeleton i copied from fun with a pencil.

P.S is 1 hour a day too little time to make any meaningful progress? i don't mind time commitments at all- i just need a solid roadmap to make sure that i don't spend all my time on useless things that i could've moved past long ago.
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>>7322841
HOW THE FUCK DO I ESCAPE 0 FOLLOWER HELL EVEN FUCKING 8 YEAR OLD NGMI BEGS HAVE MORE SUBS THAN ME
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>>7346536
i literally got 10+ commissions and nt a single fucking one of these niggers would follow me or even post it somewhere just what the fuck
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Any tips on drawing chibi characters like pic?
Like, with normally proportioned characters I can just use human references but this is so much harder to me
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>>7322841
should i actually just draw instead of waiting for the perfect idea
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>>7347608
nope, keep waiting. you don't want to blow all your saved up creative juices now when a better idea might come along right after.
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>>7346591
It looks like a nendoroid or obitsu11. What if you get one of those types of doll and draw it?
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>>7347694
my artblock is so baaad broo
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Is there a good balance between doing fundies and more personal drawings or should I just focus on fundies? Or is this a balance thing you kind of have to figure out for yourself as you go along?
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Where do people find references for these kinds of falling people? It's such an unnatural pose because of the whole falling thing so I'm at a loss. I tried underwater shots but there aren't nearly enough for what I want
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Somebody saw my stuff and commissioned me. I've never solicited commissions and this is my first time painting for money. He showed me a digital drawing of a historical scene and wants me to copy the scene in trad paint. He said I can change up the figures so long as it's the same scene and same color scheme as the original (with one minor change)

Should I be okay with copying another artist's work and selling it? What amount of changing things around is enough to make it ok?
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>>7347897
Imagination
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>>7347861
Just draw. Do something like inktober or use an image idea generator. Go watch movies, read books, go to a zoo, go do something in your life that isnt drawing then go home and draw about it.

Theres a form of art block that comes from sitting around doing nothing but copying things. Go touch grass and it will help. Take pictures of things that look interesting or fun to draw.
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>>7343342
>>7343343
James gurney, and that 3d total book about color.
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>>7348520
fuck
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How long do you think it takes for the average person to get "okay"/passable, or past the total beginner state, of drawing? Months/years or total hours? Obviously it's gonna differ person to person but is there a sort of average in your mind? From what you've seen?
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>>7349193
A few weeks or months. Do some bargue plates and you will be amazed at how fast you progress. Accurate copying is the fastest skill-up and everything after takes longer.
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>>7323494
I sense yuri
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>>7323592
I love her face lol
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>living in Mexico
>my job sometimes has me working for more than 14 hours a day, these busy periods last for a week or so and happen several times a year
>make min. wage
>live with my parents
Is it crazy to think I would be better off as an artist making commissions?
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>>7349339
yes
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where does the line go between pre-beg and beg. how do you know you've passed it?
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>>7349645
Can you draw a straight line? An even patch of tone? Even gradation of tone? Circles? Boxes? If you cant do these things you are prebeg
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>>7349681
yes. is that the actual barrier of entry or just you though?
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>>7349701
Prebeg is getting basic control of your materials and the basic techniques. Beg is actually learning to draw shit.
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>>7349645
There are no levels. Stop trying to gamify drawing, faggot.
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>>7349705
it's always been a game
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will getting into drawing make The Sadness go away?
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>>7348544
i managed to get out of artblock and put out something
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i have lots of sketches that i have never finished over the past year or so. I made digital scans of them, but now looking at them i don’t feel the save way i did when i drew them. Does anyone else have this experience? should i trudge through and finish these drawings or move on? I have hundreds of sketches like these, most of my art is unfinished. when should we know when to continue a piece or not..?
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>>7323484
few years ago the answer was if you want to see it you need to make it. ai took over now. art made by people is a tasteful subgenre now. it’s like trying to figure out if you like the sound of someone playing your favorite instrument or if you enjoy playing it yourself. you might like both. don’t be a perfectionist with art. you’re not going to get hurt if you fuck it up. drawing is not like fucking a girl without a condom hoping she won’t get pregnant.. it’s a hobby and a way to enter a flow state. try pomodoro or something idk. get a sketchbook, a physical one from the store and fill it out in 1-3 months. evaluate its importance to your life then
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>>7323716
Not to rain on your parade but i am a victim of stalking because i used to be big into the kids cartoon art scene and switched to adult oriented stuff and now im called a pedophile n people try to find out where i live. Stay safe.
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>>7328923
There’s things called key frames. If you look up animatics, these are similar to key frames. in between are drawn in between. Unfinished version of the thief and the cobbler can show you a little bit of the process of how a movie is professionally animated. look up on youtube!
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>>7349339
sounds miserable.
Don’t knock it till you try it
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If hard round is for painting what brush is for sketching?
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This isn't an art question but more of an art resource archiving question
I'm struggling to find a privated art video that was released twice, once with bad audio and a 2nd time with fixed audio
The Art of Blending 2D with 3D in 'Tales of TMNT'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNDje1kO_kA
The Art of Blending 2D with 3D in 'Tales of TMNT'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqJ5lJKdvY8
Pic related was the thumbnale
Does anybody have it, and if not, are there any torrenting sites where the likelihood of finding the vid would work? I tried Wayback and some alternatives but they failed at saving the vid
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>>7351249
Usually you want a 'pencil' type brush for sketching. One with opacity and/or flow controlled by pen pressure so you can sketch lightly and slowly build up darker lines. The shape of the brush tip and texture is up to your personal preference and desired result.
https://youtu.be/rt_vn7hf06U?t=132
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>>7324755
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>>7352067
Pinterest is a great resource for character design inspiration. Regular search engines just can't find the stuff I'm looking for. The way I like to use it is to start with a basic search and keep clicking related pins that look interesting. Here are some pics I found. Harpies range from plain human faces to full on bird heads. You could try giving your character a very aquiline nose, perhaps coloring it to look like a bill. The thick nose bridge looks very good on fantasy creatures to me. Or you could have the bill extend from the forehead, sort of like a helmet. Owls have very human-like faces, you could draw some inspiration from that. Or you could have it so the nose is the top half of a bill, leaving a human bottom lip, like in the bottom pic (I know it's AI, sorry).
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how long does it take for a complete /beg/ to draw this well?
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ok i may sound retarded since i started like this week but when i see other people sketch they just draw the outline of the hand instantly while im being told to construct stuff. is construction a meme and what should i do?
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>>7352993
continuing on this, i didnt mean just the hand but pretty much everything, why am i being told to construct stuff when they just sketch the outline anyway
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>>7353005
>>7352993
They already have been through so much contruction practice that they don't need to do it anymore. They grinded out 100 hand challenges again and again and studied the anatomy, the simplified forms.

It's the fruit of the labor.
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>>7350179
Fuck yeah good job
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>>7353115
soo shouldnt i being doing 100 hand challenges instead?
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How do I gain a thicker skin in regards to art?
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If you could gift only one chapter of Berserk to everyone you know, which would it be?
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>>7322841
Will it take forever for me to finish a single drawing? Poses takes me hours, sometimes days. Faces takes me minutes. Complex backgrounds i'm not used to drawing takes me weeks. I feel like it's too slow.
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>>7353868
Will it always*
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How do you schedule your drawing time? Should I study for an hour and a half after work and then game, or should I study for three hours and then take a relaxed day off the next day to game?
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>>7354508
I draw when I think of a situation
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>>7322841
how do you find trending stuff to draw? i need fotw fame and fortune
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>>7354508
>How do you schedule your drawing time? Should I study for an hour and a half after work and then game, or should I study for three hours and then take a relaxed day off the next day to game?

Try the 3 hours one. If it does not work for you then try the other. It's all about what you can consistently do.
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Does anyone have this in high quality? I really like it.
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>>7322841
Is there a plugin that turns the smudge, eraser and brush into separate tools in krita like in photoshop?
because I absolutely can't fucking stand the way krita does this shit
why the FUCK would I want to erase with the same brush I'm using to paint?
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>>7354742
Tools > Scripts >Ten Brushes
Set the default keybinds to your preferred keys in Keyboard shortcuts.
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>>7322841
how can I draw faster? I swear to god it takes me weeks to finish just one piece. When I'm actually in the zone it feels like I'm progressing at a consistent pace, but I find it hard to stay consistently interested and mentally get tired very easily. I'm constantly thinking about it and love the idea of making art, but when it comes to actually doing it, I just lose all energy and fucking cant
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Does MarcBrunet's course worth it?
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is sunday a good day to post your art on social media or are there better days to do so?
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Is there a browser extension or program to have images always on screen? Like PIP for videos
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>>7355845
pureref
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How do i do my studies the right way without just copying?
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Can I listen to the music while doing my studies? Or it will cause my brain to lose focus?
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In the mechanical pencil rec thread I ended up taking an anons advice and grabbing one of these. It feels absolutely fantastic, but I am curious, to those that have one is the eraser "tube" a bit loose? Everything else feels insanely solid and the lead doesn't budge a bit, but the eraser has a bit of give to how it moves around.
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what should i do if im too retarded for loomis' fun with a pencil?
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>>7356583
Most will recommend redrawing it from memory without looking at the reference. That's a great way to study. But here are some other ways you can enhance your learning. Break it down into simple 3D forms, look for simple 2D shapes, find rhythms/gestures, simplify curves. Theorize about what makes the image work. Pose questions and test them out. Simplify the reference into an easy to remember form so that you understand it.

Think of it like taking notes on a lecture. If you write down every word the teacher speaks verbatim (copying without thinking), you're probably not going to remember much. But if you write down the key points, you'll probably do better on the test (drawing from imagination).
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how do you use other art as a reference but differentiate it enough like this person did? like the face is clearly drawn different from the original art. Does it come from experience? do they just intentionally draw it a different way?
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does someone have a roadmap for figure drawing?
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>>7358301
Both, when you copy from reference or real life you develop mileage on what looks correct but there are idiosyncrasies and preferences that are unique to you with practice you'll automatically create shortcuts for realism and then apply your own stylistic preferences while using the same pose/character.

For some people it takes years but the quickest way to get there is to study photos and art styles of people you enjoy and copy them. For photos try to do a few photorealistic studies and mix it in with practice of styles you enjoy. Eventually you'll find a look that will come to you naturally but make sure to think at the end of each drawing of what you liked and didn't like, give yourself points for what you did well and try to fix things you didn't do well in but never dwell move onto the next drawing.
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>>7322841
what technique is this guy using?
http://bilibili.com/video/BV1JqS6YkEVf/
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How to become better at writing stories? It takes too long for me to find the right ideas. It's all about ideas. i don't know how to do this. You can't really force to find ideas.
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>>7358678
You gotta trust yourself and that you aren't gonna be perfect at first. Just allow yourself to try then either succeed or fail, then try again. Plus, anymore the heart in your writing is more important than the execution.
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Really dumb question cuz I'm retarded, what does this expression convey?
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>>7358946
Concern
Doubt
Sad
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What's y'all resources to learn forms? Any books, videos, or artists? I hate seeing my drawing looking as flat as my life
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>>7358946
disappointment from someone who expected better of you
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>>7359186
Remember, everything leads into a rabbit hole. So one minute you’ll learn how to break down a tank into boxes and cylinders and the next minute you’re plotting points down to the minute detail to draw an airplane in 2 point perspective. A simple book would show you how to draw forms, like the Marvel book in the catalog.
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Hello /ic/. I'm looking to start drawing, but I have no clue where to start. Some tell me to do FWAP, but others say FWAP is a /beg/-trap. All advice and recommendations I get have people saying that it's a trap or that it's useless. I'd just like to have a concrete starting point or, even better, a roadmap.

If you need more information:
I would like to learn how to start drawing humans first.
I'm not completely clueless since I can draw 3d shapes pretty well.
I'm looking to keep drawing for the long run, perhaps even starting commissions at some point.
I'm comfortable with time commitments up to 4 hours daily.
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Sup, im looking for a painting.
Oil, 18-19 century, maybe early 20.
There is a woman in the foreground, she is looking at us or out of the frame.
Behind her is a big tree. And behind the tree is a small house.
And you dont notice at the firs glance, but at the second glance, you see several semi-transparent figures floating in front of the house.
A man with a golden armor and one or two angels with white dresses.
Pls help anon.
>>7359367
>I would like to learn how to start drawing humans first.
Do a lot of gesture drawing 2-10 minutes each. Hundreds of them.
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>>7322841
Is it normal to hate everything you draw?
Is learning to draw always suppose to be a painful struggle with no reward?
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>>7361114
Absolutely! I still despise what I draw, despite me reaching a level where i'm getting commissions (Not retarded 2$ ones for paint drawings on Xitter, 50$+ shit), higher tier artists notice me to some extent (doing sketches for my sketches), offering actually helpful advice and being a bit dumbfounded whenever i say it's dogshit.
Normally I'd just react with "Wow, talk about shit taste" or "theyre just being nice" but even my fren that's not ashamed/afraid of calling me an infantile retard told me that my only fucking problem is my mental state and getting mad at absolute bullshit, non-issues.
To add to that, recently I've seen an actual god tier artist, say low-pro tier that gets 800$ commissions say quite literally the same fucking shit I do, and it made me realize two things:

1. It is a war without end. It will never go away, at least not entirely, no matter how hard you try. Best course of action is to learn to cope.
2. It is salvageable. We're not total retards like Dave, Royce, Pawell, which haven't made it out of low-/beg/ after "seriously" drawing for 5, 10, 15, 20+ years we DO stand a chance at making it.
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How can I surround myself (online) with art/artists? Where are people posting their work?

I am getting into drawing and hear things like you should compare your work to more skilled people, but I'm not sure where to look for them, lol

It would be nice to follow people's journeys as well for motivation

Also, are there any artists you can recommend to follow?
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hi.
i used to have a square textured brush that i really like that used to work just fine.
now it's doing like individual squares spaced out instead of a continuous "stream" of squares if that makes sense. like it was just a straightforward line of texture with some squared edges, instead of random squares throughout the line.
how do i fix this? new to csp btw.
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>>7359487
Jeanne D'Arc by LePage
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what does "making it" mean? is it getting a job? getting commissions? or being god-tier?
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>>7361519
Thx mate, i searched for days without knowing it was jeanne darc.
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>>7361993
might sound like a cop-out answer but it really depends on you and what your goals are. Do you want a job? Are you okay with just making money off commissions? Or do you just want to be known a gifted artist?
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Yeah, shit, the fucking lizard people are watching me... Saw this in my feed right now
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What should I do when i can't study anymore?
I mean, I can draw and I do draw. But it's just mindlessly drawing.
I want to improve technically and my mindset as an artist as well.
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Does anyone know a way to download latest and safest version of CSP
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>>7329101
>Read Alphonso Dunn's pen and ink book
Do you happen to have the book/pdf of the book?



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