Previous thread: >>7281980This is a thread for those who want to go study dynamic sketching as a group in an effort to improve their drawing skills starting from the very fundamentals. Here we share the tedious grind, crit and encourage each other.Please specify the week and course you're on when posting your work.>What is Dynamic Sketching?The Dynamic Sketching is an approach to sketching that focuses on:>Closely observing life to inspire sketches.>Breaking down complex objects into simple forms.>Building confidence using permanent mediums like pen and toned paper.>The importance of conveying ideas visually.This method helps artists create expressive and energetic sketches.First developed by Norman Schureman, an influential teacher at ArtCenter. Many of his students, including Peter Han and Charles Hu, continued his teachings at various schools.Peter Han's class is intended for beginners, but the second class can be useful even for /int/. Charles Hu's course is probably better suited for /int/s. They both cover a wide variety of subject matter, but the approach can be applied to any subject matter.>Where to get it?magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0aebc0f02e6c179b62e04c69af3e5adee3abee12&dn=IC-STUDY(Large torrent, use qBittorent and select only this folder)\Course\Form and Construction\And online-courses.club. >Peter Han says to get a lot of material, are they needed?Your choice. Honestly, just draw. Use what you have. But if you want, you can get it. You can do it digitally, but try to refrain from using ctrl+z and other features. At the end of the day though, do what you want. As long as you put the work you're gonna see progress.>I'm /int/ (as if, pyw faggot), should I bother?If you want to expand your range of subjects, I recommend it. It also covers a lot of fundies that doesn't hurt to revisit. I suggest you start with DS2 though.Mess up a lot, get that mileage in, but most importantly pyw
Feel way too /beg/ for either Dynamic Sketching course? Are you brand new to learning how to draw? Or would you rather do something free and legal instead of paid or pirated?Give DrawABox a try. It’s a very similar approach and curriculum to other Dynamic Sketching courses, except very beginner friendly. And the things learned in DAB apply directly to (especially) the earlier bits of either Dynamic Sketching course if you want to transition over after getting the hang of construction. DAB is a fine way to get started as a beg. Yes, some of the challenges can be autistically grindy, and the materials rules are a bit rigid (and I might skip the texture part if you’re beg and find it too hard to wrap your mind around. It’s introduced too early in DAB imo.) …but otherwise it’s great, and it holds your hand step by step as if you’re a retarded baby who has never held a pencil before. It assumes zero prior knowledge or experience on your part, which can be a big help when you’re brand new to drawing. It covers little details that DS glosses over because DS assumes you already know them.Note: If you are a super beg and literally never drew anything or have never done any “how to draw” study, then do Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain or some other beg course like Eviston or Proko. You’ve gotta learn to draw what you actually see instead of what your brain thinks it sees.
Dynamic Sketching explained and a comparison of the many different dynamic sketching courses. Useful to see which one suits your goals and personal preferences.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Jc3hjxcLM [Open]Dynamic Sketching - Peter Hanhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqR-aNpyEIVd91GCwsyOS3oRn6eoRhyioShort videos for those with low attention spans:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL833Uwf7-BP_K-CHv9-5svQNCXfn8dkk7Visual Development: Dynamic Sketching by Charles Huhttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1H44y1n71C/DrawABox:https://drawabox.com/There are other dynamic sketching courses by other instructors, of course, and all are welcome here.
Feel free to post anything else you think is helpful. IRL stuff involving unplanned travel to a third-world country prevented me from drawing much at all. (Had to help dad oversee emergency repairs to I guess what you’d call a vacation property.) Won’t be back home for another few weeks, but I had enough time/energy to finish week 8 of Charles Hu’s DS course the other day! Dreading costumed figures and drapery now lol. Hopefully I’ll be able to draw more soon. >>7318796 #RSI/carpal tunnel anon, if you see this, please follow this routine:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZWSQSSEjE&pp=ygUVd3Jpc3QgY2hlYXQgc2hlZXQgZ21i [Open]Every day until your wrists/hands stop hurting. Also before or after drawing. And use a fatass pen grip.To based DSG anon, >>7318588 #, I kneel. Sorry I couldn’t draw along with you to the end. Great job, you really leveled up. You should be proud. Inspiring!
And with this, I have concluded week 8! About time lol.
>>7327219If I have Perspective Made Easy and Robertsons How to Draw, should I just do those instead? Or should I start with dynamic sketching and then move on to those books, or do them at the same time?
>>7327378Maybe perspective made easy would help if you did it first. The perspective stuff in DS is pretty basic, it’s not a perspective course. I really like Marshall’s 1996 or whenever perspective course. You should have a basic grasp of perspective— as in you should know that things far away look small and things up close look big and parallel lines go to the same vanishing point, a circle recedes into perspective and/or as they tilt away from you, they form ellipses with progressively smaller/tighter degrees. Just basic stuff like that is enough. Hu covers most of the bare minimum you’d need, but an actual perspective book/ training would help. You can do it simultaneously maybe. Robertson’s book is its own autistic perspective rabbit hole that goes super in depth into formal mathematical linear perspective, and is sort of its own course. Dynamic sketching is not a substitute for a perspective course, and a perspective course is not a substitute for dynamic sketching. DS is more about internalizing a specific approach to drawing, and getting mileage building your visual memory. You can definitely get by in dynamic sketching without doing a perspective course first, but it’ll probably help.
thought id try out this course, this is just practice before I go to a museum to sketch this weekend.Is Hu worth watching? I like how his stuff has more live examples than Peter's course but it's also 2 hours of rambling.
>>7328680yea nvm charles is way better
>>7328680the live classes have student critiques too which are really helpful
>>7327219>You can do it digitally, but try to refrain from using ctrl+z and other features.Why is this bad again?
>>7327264>>7327270Is there an equivalent source for color rendering?I have no clue how to make backgrounds without sketching and just using flats
>>7329480From my notes, Hu said:- all drawing should be done in a permanent ink medium. no erasers - you can use pencils later for coloring but not drawing- the reason why is because we want to put down marks carefully- think about the mark before putting it down- there are still ways to correct the mark if you mess it up- if students know they can erase, they tend to draw too fast and not put proper thought into the marks they are putting downIf we apply the same principle to digital, knowing you can undo bad marks makes you lazy and can turn into a bad habit if you use it too often. Getting the exact mark you want in digital is harder, so I think a little bit of leeway is OK but it can easily become a crutch you have to rely on. After a quick 10-20 minute warm up with no undo, stokes feel easier and flow out naturally with more confidence which is what you want for sketching. It makes the difficulty curve harder, but in the long run it's better for your art skills. Later on for finished pieces, undoing is fine if you need to retry for a straight line or ellipse. guides and rulers are fine too. Scott Robertson would sketch loosely with markers then clean it up with ellipse guides. Drawabox talks about it here too:https://drawabox.com/lesson/0/4
nice to have an excuse to use my copics
carpal tunnel has recovered enough to start drawing again (actually I've been drawing long all the time, just with pencil, which for some reason does not affect my wrist at all).>>7327264thanks for the help, I'll carefully start doing the first exercises. Now I take breaks when drawing, and shake my hand which for some reason seems to relax everything. I think it's the fineliners that are the problem in combination with texturing, I don't really notice anything except when doing that. Will try with tape on them.There's this tree/big plant outside my dorm window, but I really struggled to capture it. It's very chaotic, there are no distinct main branches like there are in a regular plant or tree, some part of the leaves have already fallen but others not, exposing this tangle of thin branches, the leaves are pretty small. I don't have the courage to come closer to it and autistically stare at it for two hours to get a better view on it, so It's from a distance only. Any tips are appreciated. (picture is shit quality like always)
>>7329577ok so I taped them up and I immediately notice the difference. Zero pain/tingling now, because I don't have to death grip these faggotly thin pens.
>>7329485I dunno. I don’t paint and haven’t done any painting stuff yet. It’s just from observation. I’m just doing what Charles Hu says. Basic light sketch of the forms and shapes and value groups with line, then just apply paint and value from observation starting with big shapes and then refining as needed. He has you do a process of thumbnailing and starting out with two pages of value studies and then doing two pages of color studies. It’s just observation and simplification. He covers that a bit in Dynamic Sketching, but idk if that’s what you’re talking about. >>7329577>I'll carefully start doing the first exercisesNo, no, you do them all in a series like he does in the video. You do the whole routine. https://gmb.io/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/GMB-Wrist-Strengthening-Cheatsheet.pdf Your mobility will not be the same as his at first, but you just do each exercise as best you can and move on to the next in the series. And yeah that looks like a bitch to draw. I don’t have any specific instructions on how to draw it, but I can see that you are overdrawing. You’re trying to draw each little leaf and twig and that’s gonna take forever and not look too good. You want to draw in such a way as to indicate what’s going on with just enough details around the edges that your brain can fill in the rest. With such a sparse little tree, I’m not sure how you’d do that, though. That’s a very hard subject you’ve chosen lol. >>7329587Yeah I use a monstrously fat grip on my Apple Pencil. It’s called “the grip” and it’s made by pro-draw. It is literally the biggest pen grip I am aware of. Makes an enormous difference>>7328680>>7329558Nice
didnt make it to the zoo so i drew my house plant
attempt number two. More leaves have fallen and it rained; now the structure of the plant is more clear, how the thin branches behave, how the leaves cluster.Still failed pretty hard. Didn't ensure correct proportions, should've marked that better before actually starting to draw. more attempts will follow
nice thread
>>7327219what happened to the peter han fella
no idea how to use the white gel pen for contrast
>>7335242>>7336309Huwhoa, nice job!!
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>>7336802got a new phone, can finally take decent pictures.attempt number three. The leaves have almost completely fallen, revealing the structure a lot better. Also put in some thought about placement and general shape. my lighter shade copics ran out though, so a fourth and final attempt will follow.>>7335242>>7336309you're supposed to use the white to separate the foreground from the background. You already did that using black for the top right sharkie, which is also perfectly fine. When separating, you should only/mostly do it for the focal point of the drawing, not so much for the rest. Also, you used white to indicate shape (so foreground on foreground), instead of using it as foreground-background, which is not what you're supposed to do.anyway, looks very nicu
the flower started blooming while I was drawing it.I'm probably going to continue drawing plants and flowers for another week, then I'll finally move on to the next step. What I'm doing probably doesn't have anything to do with dynamic sketching anymore.
>>7337589anotha oneI enjoy drawing plants so much I'll probably just start a thread doing that one day.
easier plant for today, not feeling so well.
drew some stuff at a nearby park
>>7327240Just go straight to Eviston and Proko*
more park drawing
Just did lesson 1.
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