If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artmangapose.comline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7331956
how long have you spent wasted on being a permaprebeg?
>>7334097I was born a permaprebeg. AI replaced me. Even started banging my boyfriend.
>>7334099don't worry, I'll lick that asshole... if you're hot enough
>>7334097All my life to be honest.
Postan my cow again for some feedback.Does anyone have experience with Marc Brunets lesson on youtube?I'm thinking about doing the 30 day one.
I've been tracing ai images and made $50 on it already
I know I already asked this in the last thread but I’m not gonna be able to sleep until I get an answer on this. Is this sloppy? I specifically parts like the helmet or cuff not lining up. Does anyone think it’s in need of significant improvement like going back and making sure my perspective isn’t shit?
Does anyone have any advice for drawing Trunk's hair, or just similar hair in general?Trying to draw "anime-esque" hair that doesn't look super greasy or like helmets.Any pointers for this sketch are appreciated!
>>7334092>my pic made it to OPThanks Anon, it made my day
>>7334092drawpile
i did some pancakes i wanna eat them so bad, i made myself hungry
>>7334113I think something that'll help you feel more confident is using an ellipse tool to find how the helmet and cuffs would line up.Going off of the boot cuffs and the smaller head sketches, it looks like you're relying on 3/4's view and other "stock" angles. Using the ellipse would help find where certain landmarks should land and make it easier to build off of them. For example, the top left drawing looks like he should be facing the floor, but because it's more-so 3/4 view, he looks like he's leaning to the side. Using ellipses and maybe even your own head in a mirror as reference you can start to feel out where the nose, chin, brow, etc should go.
I'm DRAWING today for SURE. UGHHH!!!
>>7334121It always happens.Draw broken glass, you can't eat that.
I thought I was off to a good start but now that I’m sober I realize I was wrong.
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>>7334122Dude thank you, I’ve been tweaking this whole time so anyone getting back to me is appreciated. To that end, yeah I’m using stock photos as references and kinda copying the pose so I feel like I’m getting some jank from that. I’ll give the elipse a try ty
made some revisions based on crit i got from a previous thread, still can’t figure out the arm/shoulder for the life of me even with the reference
>want to draw a dynamic pose>can't find a decent ref for thatAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>7334092Is it over?
>>7333068Well I drew the bust I aimed to draw...it's flawed. Please critique, I struggled with the eyes >.<I feel she looks stiff and a bit lifeless but I'm sure I'll get over that someday.
>>7334235yeah. what are you gonna do about it?
Do you think google is going to look at photos of myself I do for reference?
>>7334035did some timed figures today, some light anatomy study and an asuka rough sketchmaybe ill do a little more before I hit the hay today but im so tired so I doubt it
Aryan beast
Asking this again because I never got a response before. I've been following some Vilppu lectures and I feel I focus too much on copying what he's doing and getting it "right" instead of understanding the actual technique and mindset he goes into it with. Is it better to just sit and watch those videos, or are you expected to follow along as he draws?
>>7334267you might need to watch them a few times regardless of whether youre drawing during or not
>can't draw until nighttime >friends get online and hound me to play lethal company just as I'm about to start drawinghhhhnnnngghhhhh
Potential Boss art I'm working on for my DnD party.I didn't intend specific boss art for this character. But the idea came to me at work yesterday.
>>7334274>Having friendsngmi
>>7334274I definitely don't die intentionally to draw anon. I would never.You really think I'd die early in the match? Just so I could sketch or work on figures?The very idea.
>>7334280The problem is that I need to be in the drawing headspace entirely and I can't do that with the game running even if I'm sitting it out dead.
>>7334267I just throw my head against the paper and occasionally read guides.Should I watch lectures?
>>7334141I like it. But I'm at hack
>>7334285Depends on the kind of learner you are. I watch lectures because I learn best when someone is speaking and illustrating (heh) the process in real time. I started with the Drawing Manual, but it didn't really work that well for me. >>7334269Yeah, I'm just gonna go all the way back to chapter 1 and start with gestures again. It doesn't help that I'm incredibly inconsistent with my drawing. I'll go weeks at a time without drawing because it's not something I'm always in the mood for :/
>>7334284That's probably better. I'm always splitting focus. I just like to talk to my friends. My work is solitary and long so talking to someone after 12 hours alone is hard to resist.
>>7334092Day 2 of drawing robot masters until I reach /int/
>>7334303I wish I could be that way and I hope after some time I'll be less stressed by drawing and able to split my attention cause I'd love to chill out with people on voice while doodling away.
Kinda want to draw but i'm tired and it's pretty late.I've been skipping out on it for over two weeks now, though.
>>7334311follow the 5 minute rule: say you're gonna do something for 5 minutes, if you don't want to do it after 5 minutes, then stop, at least you did 5 as opposed to 0; otherwise keep going. also think about yourself a month from now: are you gonna wanna go another few weeks having drawn nothing? deal with the immediate uncomfortability and you will be happier for it.
>>7334232Think about what you want your character to be doing, do you want them running, jumping, punching, shooting eyebeams etc. Then either look for ref that would fit that action or try doing a quick gesture/mannequin and then look for ref to improve it.
Is there any way to make coloring less mind-numbingly tedious?
>>7334360Yes. You have to be born again and become a person who enjoys drawing.
>>7334345The most success I had with setting up a model in posing program. I never could find a fitting ref on the internet that wouldn't be covered up in some way.The posing models tend to be stiff, tho
>>7334384just draw it without reference lol
eeek, pls don't shoot anon!
drawings from work>>7334104it's so cute>>7334141so much fucking soul + good concept>>7334265really good value clumps
>>7334092I feel like I'm getting pretty good at faces and hair, or at least good enough for it to look appealing.Right?
>>7334469ur holding ur pencil wrong, i can tell by ur pencil strokes
>>7334469moe david lynch send this to him
>>7334469The eyes are too big, but I can tell who it's supposed to be
>>7334472How tf am I holding it and how tf should I hold it then
>>7334469I immediately recognized him from the thumbnail, didn't get to see the file name. So I guess you're good at faces. Well done anon.
>>7334475ur gripping it or something, ur pencil strokes are too harsh and to blocky when it doesn’t need to be, hold it normally, look up images how to if you need to
>>7334477But I uhh kind of like it that way. I'm not going for photorealism
>>7334447>so much fucking soul + good conceptsoul = amateurish
>>7334481then u are a retard who will never improve
>>7334481ntaBeing sloppy isn't a style.
>>7334482>>7334484Dangerously autistic
Getting back at drawing bodies.
>>7334475Anon he can't tell shit.
>>7334485>>7334484I'm going for a bit of an angular/cartoony style though. I deliberately make it kind of harsh and angular, I want to make my drawings more stylised in the end but I kept this Lynch relatively photorealisticI dunno I don't want to close myself to criticism though, but I'm just saying I'm deliberately going for a somewhat angular and stylised look. Or do you think that is something I shouldn't be doing?
>>7334482don't be a retard faggot
>>7334506>>7334487Lurk more, n00bs.
>>7334507pyw
>>7334514WTF does my work have to do with you people being idiots who don’t know what “soul” means?
>>7334517p.y.w
>>7334517You're just shitting on people in this thread without contributing anything worthwhile. So, we're asking you to contribute something of value to this thread. Go on, pyw
>>7334517you contribute nothing and therefore can suck my balls faggot
>>7334524>You're just shitting on people in this thread without contributing anything worthwhile.You’re complaining that I fit right in with all you crabs? I see saying you’re an idiot was too generous.
>>7334517Lmao pyw loser.
>>7334533LOL answer the question, retard.
stop replying
>>7334542Jesus. What kind of disturbed shut-in do you have to be.
>>7334542Looks like a good summary of interactions here. Why is this place populated exclusively with trolls?
Going to bite the bullet and grind Bridgman. I will print pages out of the PDF and tape them to my drawing table.
>>7334544Anon, when you see a post of a supposed raid site where they bullet point their ops like its a saturday morning cartoon villain throwing out his excel worksheet for how to get the hero do you really not question the validity of anything you see and take it as truth
>>7334544>>7334545because people reply to them. crab or troll, if you stop replying they get bored. do not reply, even if they spam. just disengage
>>7334549But then these threads would be dead. You don’t actually believe you assholes have something worthwhile to contribute ever, do you?
>>7334492Nice
>>7334469>tfw
>>7334092How do you guys do shady/menacing face shadows? I think i could have made this a lot better
>>7334596Just push the values more? Like, if you have a separate layer for shadows right now, duplicate it. At the very least that’ll make the shadows deeper.
>>7334612issue is that the shadows are all blurry on the face, mostly. I dunno if there is a better way to shade skin in general
>>7334616Your shadows are the same everywhere, not just the skin. Be decisive about shadow shapes and push them more, like the other anon says.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCJ2CU-bFw
>>7334620Gotcha, so be more confident and just try to do celshading properly, right?
>>7334627Watch the video, it's gonna explain this way better than I can
>>7334596I would go with thrillersque movie posters expressions + upper half of the face in shadow
>>7334633Cute caco.
>>7334092I hope you guys are having fun drawing
>>7334654Mmm, any anime examples?
>>7334596Try putting the light source from below
I'm bout to switch to weichun or taco.
Did some fixxxes uwu
>>7334654>>7334695anime follows the same general look. it's just in anime style
>>7334727The arm and hand up in the back looks better now. That's good.Maybe you should work on the "readability" aspect of the composition. I can't understand or identify what's happening in the image, or how it works. I don't understand what's going on. I know that's a dragon floating in the middle, but that's it.
Am I polishing a turd? Be honest.
this is a failed study
>>7334785yes but only because its furry shit, use ur skills for someone else, something normal.
>>7334695Off the top of my head, junji ito does the same thing, but only on the eye sockets to keep the face readable, but probably more your taste would be something like corpse party animu.>>7334807?? looks good to me too, me hue variation with good perceptual color value great job >>7334785spend only 1 hour more after this stop.
>>7334785No, that's not a turd at all, but the "polishing" part ain't working. The drawing, lineart and composition are amazing, pro level, I would even say. But the rendering part, may need a whole new approach. The way you do the clothing rendering is not working. The wrinkles look out of place, like the drawing is amazing but the wrinkles are all wonky and weird. It's hard to explain. Rendering elegant drapery can be tricky, you may be fooled by thinking that "more is more", when actually "lees is more" in this case. Less wrinkles, less complexity in the lines and values. You will have to find what works by trying.
>>7334816I don't know how to, all I know is I'm sick of working on it and hate it now. I think I was able to do fabric/sheets/cloth much better in a previous piece but I can't recreate it for whatever reason.
>>7334727you did great anon! the palette on the dragon looks so nice, maybe the photo is but i find the colors dull even though the background and foreground are complementary they are hard to read, also the human gets lost having a similar color to the background. Things you can improve in your next work, 1 tonal composition 2 color vibrancy.This picture is not a fix, but is to explain myself better.
I'm trying to become a NSFW artist, any useful tips on how to improve my art and grow a community?
>>7334500>Or do you think that is something I shouldn't be doing?Well? Could somebody answer this for me? If I'm going in the wrong direction I'd like to know
>>7334869You're a big fucking strokey nonce
The dragon looks too much like a dinosaur
>>7334874stop projecting, asshole
>>7334879I’ll project your asshole with muh dick.
>>7334879Show this to your mom and ask her if she's proud of you
>>7334863Apart from strict improvement of penmanship and skill, you should study what you actually find attractive about art you enjoy. Go grab art from artists you like, and figure out what specific themes run through each picture. I didn't notice for a while that all my favourite gooner stuff had a lot of things like speed lines, onomatopoeia, and small fx that made it seems more in action. Maybe that won't fit the style you want to make, but you should analyze critically so that you can consciously choose what to use.For followers, really your first 100-1000 are pure luck. You can post good shit every day for weeks and nothing will happen, and then one retweet will rocket you to 1000 followers
my Grinding Song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn77gzjBl1Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW3-z3_0t4E
How do I handle copying this page the right way? I'm getting that from left to right the figure is being built in sequence, but the construction seems to change slightly between the examples.Would you copy each image here individually or make one figure drawing by building up your construction step-by-step similar to how the image is laid out?
>>7334887Get your dick out of your ass, faggot>>7334889ok Milhouse
>>7334908When I started I would copy everything, now with more mileage a I would suggest to do all these steps in a single drawing, make your marks lightly at first and build on them, see how some marks are strong at first but then get lighter and lighter, this is because 1. your hand is rubbing the paper as you continue to draw 2. he is erasing some parts lightly as he progresses the drawing.
This is peak drawing posture btw
Correct me before I continue, should the right eye be smaller compared to the left? How should I draw the right hand? I tried to copy directly from my own hand but it was a disaster, any correction will be of great help.The lineart is a disaster, I know, I will correct it.
>>7334807Pretty enough for me to save it
Day 16 complete!
>>7334785The eagle staff looks really good but everything else looks kind of flat even though you shaded it with darker colors. You can probably turn the pic into black and white to check why your contrast values aren't popping out.
Some Sketches and stuff I made a while ago
>>7335013>>7335017Based snu snu enjoyers
>>7334975the eyes are too low, the bottom of her eyes are lower than her earlobes, it looks off. ur right about how her right eye should be smaller, but i think there should also be a sliver of her right cheek/face showing there since her face is tilted closer to a front angle than a 3/4th one.youre on the right track with the hand, however you need to add in some lineart and/or shading to show the knuckles, especially with the pose having her hand somewhat gripping her arm, the knuckles would be prominent. always try to use references. some other things that stuck out to me and arent really objective faults is her hair around her ear, i think it'd come down slightly further down, even for females. also her mouth should be ever so slightly higher and her nose ever so slightly lower, although thats more a stylistic choice.
>>7334879This is the peak female bodytype
>>7334867somebody pls answer me
>>7321664surely I'll find time and motivation to go through 3 hour loomis tutorial videos this weekend for real this time haha
how do I learn to get good at sketching garments/fabric/fashion?
>>7334114>or like helmetsthe key is to break up the hair on your image you didn't do it properly, you basically drew one farm which is a bit spikey, you need to break it up properly
>>7334141small male/big female god tier taste
>>7335097Draw from life . Reach into your closet and draw those or go draw people
>>7334785The character is off center imo.
>>7334542Just thought I would highlight this image again to bring every bodies attention to it.
portrait painting studies, i progressed a lot since i started designing some aspects of the subject facesnow my painting studies don't take too long to finish since i learned to paint less distracting and unnecessary things
>>7334785gaytex? :DDD
>>7335108They’re just good friends. These two, though. https://litter.catbox.moe/m9tnwy.jpeg
>>7334957pretty nice>>7335013solid technique>>7335039the hair is ok, everything else looks off but idk why
>>7335039even cartoons suggest volume. you've flat out ignored the planes of the face. she looks like a githyanki.
Can we share stories of failures instead of success here? So a year ago my mom has been nagging me to get a job and I told her give me 3 months to improve so I could make money from art commissions. A year later, now, I'm perma stuck and failed miserably and now she brings it up every time she nags me.
>>7335241Just get a fucking job. Wtf is wrong with you
>>7335251i want to be those anons who made bank from drawing sparing them from dead end retail hell
>>7335253you won't be you're a permabeg, so get a job
Where is my daily dose of Pawell?
>>7335241Get a job, retard. You had your 3 months. You had your year. If you aren't making money by now, then you won't be making any money in 2 years time either. Get a fucking real job. Stop screwing around like a complete moron. Working is hard and stressful and it can be miserable, but it's better than making the life of your mother worse because you are too much of a pussy to face the facts. Stop lying to yourself and get a fucking job. Stop rationalizing, stop hoping and stop coping. Get a retail job, a construction job, any damn job. Stop being a leech, stop trying others patience. At this pace you will be a fucking failure anyway, so the least you can do is get out of the house and earn your own keep.
>>7334542AHEM....This right here.
>>7335241Listen to mom Anon.
>>7335280So we may as well shut down this board?
>>7335304We only need to make people aware of people like you going around doing all those things and then people can see through it all and not get annoyed as much because they know the score.
>>7335330Don’t act like you weren’t one of those assholes crabbing people. Why are you suddenly pretending like you think it’s bad, now?
>>7335338I don't go round doing that, nice try though.
>>7335341I get that you’re such a retard that you’ll believe your own lies. Unlike you I’m an intelligent person and I remember what assholes you all have been for years. You can’t change.
>>7335350Cool Story
>>7335241You can do art and have a job at the same time, anon. If she kicks you out, don't blame it on her, unless your family is super rich and they're kicking you out out pettiness
>>7334104>Does anyone have experience with Marc Brunets lesson on youtube?it's fun, I did it in a couple of days some months ago
>>7335363Post work before and after?
>>7335209>the hair is ok, everything else looks off but idk whyYeah I kind of cocked up the perspective and proportions. I mainly drew this to focus on the hair so I guess that's why I didn't pay that much attention to it but it's still a big cock-up.>>7335228I feel like I tend to leave out too many details when I draw women, but I'm afraid I'll make them look old or masculine when I give them a lot of detail. I can't just draw every line like I do when I draw old men, but then I guess I take that too far and end up not drawing enough lines. I guess I need to experiment a bit more. Anyone have any tips maybe for how to find that sweetspot?Here's a quick doodle of the dutch prime minister btw
>>7335368I didn't notice any major change (it's silly to expect it after a couple of days), but it's fun
Trying to fill out a sketchbook
>>7335402Lol are those rats
>>7335388with women you have to focus more on the overall shapes and lines. with men you can add more detail to make them look better, but women are more fundy heavy
>>7335355I accept your concession.
>>7335350no one who says shit like this is intelligent lmao maybe autistic
>>7335427>no one who says shit like this is intelligentNeither are you, you're responding to an obvious troll
>>7335437when did i say i wasnt a retard
>>7335439You got me there
>>7335423So am I not leaving out too much detail then in >>7335039 ? It's just the proportions and perspective being fucked up?
>>7335441yeah. if you want to practice this specifically id study older american cartoonists or you can do some anime study. i used to have the same problem too and that was what helped me the most
>>7335448thx bro I'll do that
>>7335425Nice try, but it aint good enough
>>7335037For the normies this is the child body
>>7335016Wtf??? The fingers looks strange
>>7335490Anon those are toes, they're meant to be small and shit
>>7334874You are a fucking asshole, fucking troon
>>7335500Lol angry pedo. Hide your kids people
The shut-in is arguing with himself now? Geez
>>7335507The only thing that bothers you is you, you damn degenerate, who sees children everywhere.
>>7335507like you who hide your son in the basement to rape him, damn pedophile.
>>7335507
>>7335513>>7335516>>7335523Lol did you really get so assblasted that you had to reply thrice
Does Gesture Drawing ever just "click", or am I missing something fundamental?Face studies and learning to draw portraits are easy to learn as you go, because there are countless tutorials on every tiny detail and facial feature, but gesture drawing tutorials always boil down to "start with a gesture curve and just do it"So how am I supposed to improve if I'm not learning new techniques? Is muscle memory all it takes, and I'll eventually just get the hang of it?
>>7335534>gesture drawing tutorials always boil down to "start with a gesture curve and just do it"Do yourself a favour and watch Hampton instead of that hack Proko
>>7334874>>7334887>>7335507>>7335529You answered four times, tremendous schizo
>>7335544Why are you so angry about it?
>>7335551why are you angry?
>>7335541nta but hampton is even more confusing
Should i try to get skilled at illustration despite my lack of talent, and the fact that AI will take all illustration-related jobs away in less than a decade?I'd like to do it for a living more than anything, but i'm shit at it and only the best of the best will prevail.
>>7335558Hampton's gesture is the most retard-proof method there is.
>>7335559illustration has been a dead industry for almost a decade now, you don't wanna get into thatfreelance is where it's at and where it's gonna be for the foreseeable future even despite AI
>>7335553No you are mad
Total prebeg, started a couple weeks ago. I'm mainly learning basic construction via loomis. Any advice is appreciated>>7335559This is a cliched response, but if you pick up a hobby with the sole purpose of wanting to make money than you're not gonna get anywhere. Set your sights on improving every day and then evaluate where you're at in a couple years.
that study can be used as screamer in some horror games, anyway that face looks like singer from rammshtein, lol
>>7335567whoops, hopefully this is the right orientation
>>7335575some more. I'm very sloppy when it comes to shading which is definitely something I need to work on.
>>7335567It's not the sole reason. My end goal would be to make as little as half the minimum wage. I'm really not looking to get rich quick drawing.
>>7335585Why does the left look like an egg with painted on eyes?
Wanted to go back to grind for over a week now but always end up drawing random shit instead.
>been drawing for ages>no ideas>still cant make anything goodwhen does this end bros
>>7335605>>7335585Sorry meant the right one
>>7335534>Does Gesture Drawing ever just "click", or am I missing something fundamental?Yes and no, the thing about gesture is that it gets easier the more anatomy you understand, if you start fresh with no knowledge you will draw what you see (at best), which most of the time is deceiving because what you see is skin and fat and you can't understand what those subtle changes in value in the skin represent. The more anatomy you know, the more you will begin to understand, "oh that C curve represents the glutteus", those overlapping lines ring true because that is how those muscles and tendons overlap right there.What I would suggest is to have an ecorché and skeleton reference at hand and refer to them as you draw, don't spend too much time overanalyzing everything, just if you're struggling in one area, take a look and see what's under the skin over there, over time you can get more specific. Or at least thats what I'm doing at the moment and think I'm getting better as a result.
>>7335599In that case i'd probably take the other anon's advice and just aim for freelance work. >>7335614Likely a combination of a fucked up freehanded circle and losing structure when I went over in pen.
>>7335612>no ideasWhy are you drawing if you have nothing you want to draw, anon? If you want a piece of advice, come up with an OC you really really like and just draw them in every scenario imaginable whenever you don't know what to draw.
Is handwriting an indicator or artistic quality and if yes do you have any advice on how to get better? I have been writing like this since i was a kid but even if i focus all my power on writing as best as i can i am still behind my peers.Anyways so far i have been drawing with little plan or ideas so like i do little originals. After reading >>7335627 the little guy pointing at something emerged. Dunno what but i think he has something.
>>7335652There are skilled artists with absolutely awful scribbles for handwriting, short of having parkinsons, art skill and handwriting skill are two distinct things. From my experience at least, YMMV.
>>7335652i can draw pretty good and i have notoriously bad handwriting
>>7335534Tbqh just do it,I didn't get gesture until I started drawing along Hide's croquis videos. I think it's one of those things that you only get through practice and not theory
>>7335562You are angry and started this stupid argument.
>>7335652>Is handwriting an indicator or artistic quality and if yes do you have any advice on how to get better?I don't think it affects your overall craftsmanship, but I do think it affects the expressiveness, the symbols, and the workflow. For example, I can see how Charles Schulz's linework is heavily influenced by cursive script, the hands, the hair, the motion blur, everything has a cursive quality to it. I think the same thing happens in other writing systems where you have to be more precise about subtleties.
I have jacked off to (You)r art.
Every day is a new day where I believe I should pack it up. And yet, I persist.
Bridgman is making see how pre-beg I am when I can't copy drawings of anime girls or draw digitally.
good afternoon beg
>>7335701cool doggo!
>>7335703thank you!
>>7335703That dog has a very long nose which makes it ugly...
>>7335712It's a little creepy but cool.
>>7335712I like long snouts.
>>7335712You take that back motherfucker. Borzois are cute.
>>7335689could this explain why westerners' anime drawings look so different from japanese drawings?
>>7335687But you are angrier
>>7335729No uAlso ur peepee small
>>7335740Like the colorsMessy lines tho
>>7335747he's a permabeg, pay him no mind
crabs be crabbin
Latest landscape, sketch wasn't that precise and the cliff face and sky were a struggle. I'm gettign better with values but the mountain in shadow should have been darker.
>>7335747aw shit
>>7335727No, the why you are looking after is more complex, could be cultural, workflow, technological, framework. There are westerns in the anime scene and there are easterners in the hollywood scene, they just have to stay within the framework rules of the style.
>>7335780Well, we ain't got old money but we got New Money.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKOriO-2VHA
Really like how Urasawa does faces
Are there any good resources specifically on drawing boobs? It's the one thing I neglected while doing figures and I'd like to move on to doing master studies but I need to fill that gap
>>7335652Handwriting is a routine task that your consciousness outsources to muscle memory. Maybe by "shaking up" your handwriting i.e. adding complexity like precision or flourishes you can encourage neuroplasticity and strengenthen or form other pathways beneficial to drawing. I started doing a little calligraphy on a whim a few months ago which degenerated into long handwriting improvement sessions where I developed a sort of spencerian cursive/copperplate hybrid with flourishes on certain letters that I like. It made me realize the only difference between me and someone who can draw is that the drawer just did a lot of drawing when I was busy not drawing. So I came here and yeah I think the calligraphy and drawing pathways are intertwining. I'm vaping so don't take this too seriouslty. But to improve your handwriting just practice writing huge and slow and precise. Make every letter accurately like drawing a picture then when you speed up and write smaller your sloppy cursive is a lot better. Theres a penmanship youtuber that recommends writing with your left hand but that's too extreme for me.
>>7335821https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjOD4jM55H0
i feel like a retardi don't know what do draw, i do the daily homework i got from a video course but then i'm stumped on what to draw after and just end up doing gesture and figure drawings everyday but i feel like i'm not really progressing anything
>>7335845I'm feeling the same, i finally learned to paint/draw the figure and portrait, but now i'm kinda struggling to move beyond it. I wanna stylize my illustrations, but i just don't know where to begin. Been lost like this for some weeks.I wanna do NSFW art, btw. Mostly for the money.
>>7335804Can't find any flaw, maybe shade it a little?>>7335783qt pie>>7335780It's just a reference, it doesn't have to be perfect I guess>>7335622are you training to be r34 artist?I've been learning to draw for 2 months now, I suck at hands tho
Artists on suicide watch!
>>7335845A Lament of Innocence perchance.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZLRnQqEyt0
>>7335845>>7335857If you are so creatively bankrupt why did you start leanring to draw in the first place? Just stop at this point. People who want to learn to draw learn it because they have a vision otherwise it's meaningless
>>7335845Keep a dream diary and draw your visionsDreams are like free original ideas
>>7335863you're not even making any sense, why did you bother posting this shid
>>7335859Yeah, that's me after this garbage.
>>7335868because I hate you
not sure if this even qualifies as improvement. i think it may just be a case of i was using a shitty brush, or didn't put in more effort due to lack of detail in the source reference material of the show.
>>7335881but i wanna be fren wit u :( pls
>>7335885what in oblivion is that
Progress
>>7335920yeah inpainting will be useful, if only the models will stay free, sadly they won't.
>>7335920humans are going to have fewer and fewer reasons to learn to do anything as we get further into the future. we should keep learning regardless because what are going to do? rot in bed and play video games?
>>7335885Holy mother of permabeg
Bleh!
>>7335930Breakfast can wait.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzWX1gv6u2s
>>7335927>rot in bed and play video games?
>>7335937What a cute girl
>>7335845Just draw some Poppi QT PI
>>7335974It's a boy
>>7335977Thats far far beyond my ability to even attempt :[
>>7335999Well then, just like Tina Turner once saidWE DON'T ANOTHER DRAWERWE DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE FOLLOWERSALL WE WANT IS LIFE BEYOND THE ARTISTDOMEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDERlmd2NS4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8reyk0XqA6Q and you sir are that other drawer
>>7335859/pol/ uses it better to be offensivethis is some milk toast stuff the your putting out for shame
>>7335999That "drawing" is just AI as you can tell by how soulless it is
>>7336012>soulessit just looks like a more polish /ic/ /int/ work
>>7334925Thanks anon. I followed your advice and redid my copy of this page and my brain feels bigger now instead of confused
>>7336012You can reverse image search it you know
>>7336040Well that ese put dust in my weed.
>>7336012Its real you dumb retardYou can easily tell cause the little trinkets are consistent instead of a garbled mess Ai wound make
>>7336048and i've seen a few shops in my time.
>>7336012lol weak ass bitch
more art from earlier
>>7336084Look who's mad as fuck loool
>>7335999You can try drawing swinsuit Morag, more simpler in design.
I decided to finally start focusing in fundies the next time I draw. Thus better be worth it /ic/
Why is rendering gold so hard aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Trying to do backlighting, or to make the characters darker. What sort of background color would I need to make this work, or is there something wrong with the colors I've already chosen?
>>7336170u have the canvas open, why not just use the bucket tool to test out different colors and see which u like best, think of what feel/emotions ur trying to express with this piece
>>7336177I've tried... but it just don't seem right. I had a reference I was going to use for lighting, but the author deleted it.... Don't know nothin about color theory so I'm just throwing things at the wall.
>>7336185well it's just like my favorite fgth song, War. WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR? cover of course from the original.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBng0jeMlC0And you must ask your elf, my drawing, WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
Pretty wiped today so I know it's flawed, but a drawing is a drawing
>>7336193it was War (Hidden)
And another
a still from one of my favorite recent animus city hunter private eyes, surprised that almost no noise was used, I have to study the colors on this movie. I don't have the american jeans to draw guns :(>>7336036Great anon, glad to hear that your confidence is growing, just hate that you don't actually post your work.>>7336087great deer, i need to practice my light touch with ink.>>7336139Nice face, shadow shapes can be used better to describe form, the neck feels a little cubic because of that harsh shadow in the sternomastoid. Also the ear and nostrils feel way too roundish. but great job, love the texture.>>7336170If you want the characters to appear darker than they are, you will need a lighter value BG and probably a near complementary color, you can also add blue or purple to the characters to make them appear darker.>>7336193>>7336232Cool stuff, looks like you are having fun, love it.
I'm an absolute /beg/. People say to start out with traditional but I'm so fucking annoyed having to erase construction marks and mistakes its getting to the point where I just want to do digital. Does digital and traditional matter for learning? Is this a problem that is just solved as I draw more?
>>7336193these are really great
>>7336193I love this. Shit like this is what drawing is all about
>>7336232Sampler platter of some recent stuff for the vibe
>>7335727definitely, japanese didn't just decide to stop teaching an equivalent to cursive one day, which obviously caused extensive damage to both literacy and visual expression in the west.
>>7336253are you TRYING TO MAKE ME FEEL BAD FOR PURPOSELY MISSING MINE??????????
I wanted to do something silly, with no worries about how it would end up. But I still felt bummed up when I saw the results, I can't help it lol
>>7336254Starting with trad is the smartest and fastest path, drawing is hard digital will only add more, this is what happens to many they start digital and start wasting time on trivial stuff like layers, brushes, blending modes, resolutions, shaky lines etc instead of just drawing.>I'm so fucking annoyed having to erase construction marks and mistakesyou have 2 choices, 1. start light and finish hard 2. do not erase as much use a kneading eraser and just pat lightly those traces will help latter as value patches.>Does digital and traditional matter for learning?yes and no, you will draw more in trad than digital and thats a huge advantage.pic is a quick sketch I didn't erase anything.>Is this a problem that is just solved as I draw more?yesAlways pyw when asking questions it helps.
>>7336268the first rule of witch hat atelier fight club is don't talk about witch hat atelier fight club.
>>7335885there's definite improvement!
>>7336254Please start traditionally anon. The other anon put it perfectly saying digital anons get caught up with mechanics of the program instead of the mechanics of drawing, which is obviously more important. >im so annoyed having to erase construction marksThis is an inevitable element of drawing traditionally that you’ll just have to get used to. You get the benefit of not seeing them on digital, but that’s mitigated by the fact that learning to draw when you start digitally is much harder cuz like I said it’s a lot more to learn, which can be overwhelming. With trad, you just want your focus to be on the drawing and your material, nothing else. Once you’ve strengthened your drawing skills, THEN transition to digital where you won’t be overwhelmed by the settings AND drawing because the hardest part is already done, now you just take the tools you have and apply them to the principles you’ve already learned. >is this a problem is just solved as I draw moreI’m glad you asked this, because trad also allows you to draw more. Sure you can bring your iPad to the park but that’s not the same as having a sketchbook, ya know? Plus when you buy sketchbooks, you’ll see blank page after blank page, which may subconsciously motivate you draw more. Plus with digital you’ll probably want to undo a lot of errors since it’s much easier, with trad you learn to live with them, and create more work as a result. Just look at any master. Even if they’ve don’t digital work, traditional art is still apart of their repertoire, and it’s what most began with. Start trad, then transition to digital imo
>>7336274thank you. i was worried it was just the brushes since i've been swapping between lots of brushes ever since i noticed that people were lying and it really DOES matter what brush you use.
>>7335208>They’re just good friends.that kiss looks like she's ready to milk him though, you've got your gestures mixed up
Need some advice on color rendering, most times I do it the flat colors still end up looking better
Tried out your advice about line width variance. You were right, this looks much better! I will keep giving it my best.
Hand practice cause i suck at hands
>>7335034I will trace your corrections, thanks.
Mind is a pit of different informationMicrophone is on so of course communication
Man I have no fucking talent and I can't even trace correctly. I trace so much of my art now because I just can't start drawing anymore it's too hard but even then it looks so uglyNor can I even make interesting art with unique poses because I can't study for shit or can I even think of anything either because im dogs butIdk why I even go on, spent like 2 hours on this and drawing for the past 7 and they're were all so badEverything always looks off and I can't draw how I imagine in my head so everything is fetal alcohol syndrome I KNOW I'm missing something everything looks so off but I literally cannot move my hands in a way to fix themI'm 18 and have been drawing since I was 7 and I've studied maybe 8 times but it feels so over I can't draw at all fuuuuuaucMuch less anything close to what I have in my brain I have no idea how to start but I also DONT want to fucking read at all because I can't read and I don't have the attention span to because it feels like a waste of time and not something I'll understand anyways because I am clinically retarded and diagnosed with shit like autism and ADHD so my brain is always going to be stupid. But I want to draw and. Be good but I never can and I'm not even smart enough to into aisloppaAAAAAAAAAA fml
>>7336351waddaya drawrin
>>7336339lol raphael's hand is on backwords
>>7336306I need someone who's less beg than me to confirm this for me, but I think in your case and in that style you don't really need to do color rendering. There's already a lot of shading so it doesn't look flat, and it looks like it's done in the style of old comic books/manga which usually didn't have color rendering. Maybe everything I'm saying is nonsense though
>>7335885>ADULT gwenwhy draw the inferior ver
New bread doko?
Question.If my subject is wearing clothes how detailed of a body should I do under the clothes?Can I get away with anatomy bubbles? Or am I hurting myself in the long run by not drawing the full figure?Sorry if this is a retarded question. I have no formal training
>>7336410I guess it depends on how baggy/form fitting your clothes are
>>7336154HAHAHA Mr Bond
Tried doing some sketches from reference. Could you give some pointers?1/3
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>>7336306Put it on bw mode and check the valuesI dig the pants and yellow lights. Actually I really like it. Her torso needs more rendering I think. When you start rendering you instantly notice the parts that are left flat
>>7336373Yeah I get what you mean. This black ink style goes well with flat colors, but I've seen some artists pull off the color rendering. It's all about the execution of it I guess. Sometimes it looks really really shitty (like in the 2000s when alot of artists constantly used airbrush type tools) so its a fine line to walk>>7336467The values seem fine to me, although I think you're right about the torso, its a bit more difficult to pick where the shadows go since its supposed to be a flat-ish surface though.Some metallic highlights might work though. Thanks
Wiperino. I am totally lost with the legs and the original reference has some insane leg proportions I am not going to emulate
>>7336606Look at the shoulders and gesture of the figure. It's completely different to yours. If i had to describe it. The fig is like a Z and yours is like a CLegs start separated like in the figure. In your drawing they start too close to each other. Don't think of the skirt with several vertical creases yet. Think of it as a piece of plain cloth being held and try to render with shadows and values. Just lines will be harder due to the 3d shape of the clothLook harder at the figgy and try to reproduce the pose more carefully. It's a really interesting pose and you are losing a lot in the process of selectively choosing what to copy. You are not good enough yet to know that. Copy everything as close as possible and learn from it
New thread?
How is my construction looking
>>7336652Is this digital or trad? Either way you got clean fucking lines, great job.
>>7336620So I have to scrap it then? Good to know.It is just a very quick 10mins draft I sketched because I found out nobody had done the reference yet so I wanted to doodle it before going to sleep and forgetting about it.I don't want to copy references 1:1 because it makes me feel like I am stealing from the original artist and disrespecting their work.>losing a lot in the process of selectively choosing what to copy. You are not good enough yet to know thatitai.What now then?Scrap it and just trace the original ref?When I went to sleep I thought it had potential but now I am just disappointed at how blind and stupid I am..>>7336652Better than anything I could ever do.
>>7336629you can use https://amethyst-chanda-85.tiiny.site/ to generate the OP image next timenew thread>>7336660>>7336660>>7336660
>>7336658Don't be so defeatist. It's a practice exercise. You can just say it's X character in Y characters pose and no one will give a shit. No one expects you to make an original masterpiece from the get gCopy, learn, apply, repeat. Until what you wanted to learn has been absorbed by your brain>just traceYou could trace and compare. I wouldnt trash your current drawing. Just compare and try to see what were you not able to notice from the ref. You need to learn to observe better
Just wanted to ask for thoughts? Critiques? Violent reactions?
>>7336737That drawing makes me want to piss on your face. There's the violent reaction.
>>7336125Anime name?
>>7336747licks it up
>>7336444I like her coin slot
>>7336396got tired of only seeing the loli version.
>>7336507Getting ready for Fallout day? Blog?
