Reminder: Famous artists that learned drawing from life>Rembrandt >Kim Jung Gi>All the Renaissance masters >Andrew Loomis>George Bridgman >Sargent>Rubens>Repin>Gibson>Rockwell >Hopper>Leyendecker>List goes on and onfamous artists who learned drawing exclusively from books and pictures online and anime>uhhhh idk lol>?????The age of the copyfag is over. The time of the lifechad has come.
>>7340106>>Rembrandt>>Kim Jung Gi>>All the Renaissance masters>>Andrew Loomis>>George Bridgman>>Sargent>>Rubens>>Repin>>Gibson>>Rockwell>>Hopper>>Leyendeckerliterally who
>>7340149Picture an anime artist but instead of anime characters they draw real people, if that makes sense?
>>7340159What the fuck? Can anyone confirm this
>>7340159oh, you mean like the guy who draws a dog but instead it's a kangaroo fetus?
>>7340106you'd think with all that life drawing you're doing you'd have less time to ritualpost this horseshit
>>7340272Proko?
>>7340282It's Nine-forty o' COB!
OP who posts their work>uhhhhh idk lol>??????
>>7340106You realize "drawing from life "is just copying too right?Fucking retard
>>7340421Permabeg mindset. Just copying what you see is not drawing, untalented faggot. Understanding the three dimensional forms you’re drawing, observing your perspective as a viewer, and using life as an inspiration rather than merely copying it 1:1 is what good drawing is absolutely any accredited draftsmen, artist, or art teacher will tell you fucking dumb box drawing high-/beg/ faggot.
>>7340438Cope
>>7340441Ok buddy go to a Russian art academy and tell them that “drawing from life means copying life” and observe the pity they’ll look at you with. Better yet, take one of their classes and tell them you already know how to draw the figure from observing photos. Maybe even use the loomis head when taking a portrait class. They love that.
>>7340452>ok buddyCOPE>Muh golden goose knowledge that will save me
>>7340458Who the fuck said anything about knowledge? life drawing isn’t about what what you know it’s about what you discover. But you’ve never drawn from life before so I’ll keep drawing from life, you keep copying Japanese cartoons, and let’s meet in a year and see where we’re at.
>>7340460Sounds good>Understanding the three dimensional forms you’re drawing, observing your perspective as a viewer, and using life as an inspiration>untalented faggotYou need to see things in real life to understand 3d forms, perspective, and get inspired, and cannot do anything but copy 1:1 from photos and call him untalented lol.
>>7340471I use plenty of books and photos as reference for studies, and then supplement it with life drawing. Simple :)
>>7340477Ok? if youre using books and photos as references for study, why do you need to see them irl? Can you not visualise 3d form from a 2d image? If not why do you bother studying them?
>>7340480What’s to lose from drawing from life? Life drawing doesn’t just teach you about form, it teaches you about perspective and POV - the ability to record where you, the observer, are in space . That’s a strange question to even ask, as if learning art is about doing it the easiest and fastest way I.e the comfort of your room on your computer. That you “might as well” just draw from 2D cuz it’s “the same” as 3D. You will learn and discover much from just going outside and sketching the scenery, beyond even the art itself.
>>7340487>What’s to lose from drawing from life?Completely missing the point . Draw whatever you like>as if learning art is about doing it the easiest and fastest wayAlso missing the point, and its literally what youre saying. You think drawing from life is the best way to learn perspective because its easier for you. No one is saying drawing from life is this evil practice you should never do, theres just nothing magical about it you cant get from photos
>>7340494> You think drawing from life is the best way to learn perspective because it’s easier for you.Missing the point entirely. It’s HARDER to record these things from life than it is from photos. THATS why I preach it. It’s not magic, it’s not a cheat, it’s HARDER. To learn it from photos, just look and copy. To learn from life, observe, understand, learn, and then DRAW.
Life must be so different when you have 70IQ love hearing this guy's unique perspective <3
>>7340514How many boxes did you grind today little fella?
i dont get the hate, you dont have to go to a life drawing class to draw from life. draw your own arms, draw a box from real life. doing perspective exercises from irl objects has helped me understand foreshortening a lot more. i do figure drawing from pictures only because i don't have any irl sessions near me, but just do what you can
>>7340523The hate is from socially anxious weebs that are scared to take a sketchbook outside and from forehead tapping autists that think they’re art geniuses that already know everything there is about observation from photos. Neither of which have ever taken an art class. Somehow these art geniuses don’t understand that cameras can distort images and miss the entire point of recording one’s own perspective and point of view rather than that of a camera. They think that they’re smarter than the renaissance masters, who INVENTED the ideas of perspective because they knew that the eye and reality can be misleading (unlike a flat photo), and that drawing from observation can hold keys to many of the difficulties of art. They think that copying Kim Jung Gi’s art will make them Kim Jung Gi when in reality he understood the concept of recording one’s own perspective from a young age and grinded observation drawing which improved his ability to draw from memory and imagination. Meanwhile nobody has yet posted a single famous/talented artist that has learned exclusively from copying photos/Japanese cartoons.
>>7340523>i dont get the hateThe hate is OP making an inflammatory post making people who do feel anxious about drawing from life feel bad. People tend to double down when they think they're against him. Look at the dude that realized that most people were dying during child birth because people didn't wash their hands, he was such a prick DOCTORS were against him. This is partially why corporations want you to be nice, manners is social lubricant and shit can't get done if someone is being a draining smug dick because of innate human nature taking over. Go outside and draw from time to time, you'll find it much harder, set up a still life so you can see how light and shadow works better and you can become a better artist for it. There's no downside to drawing from life. If you join a class you may even get good tips from peers or inspired in a different way that would level you up-if not you can feel smug that you're the best one there and those people will look up to you.
>>7340567Ok I’m not trying to make people feel bad to the point where they’re discouraged, I’m only being inflammatory because I’ve been on this website too long and that’s the only way I know how to talk and get through to people on this site. Especially when this board circlejerks about boxes, loomis, and anime, ALL WHICH CAN BE VALUABLE in their own right but not if that’s all you fucking draw. I just want people to admit they don’t draw from life simply because they’re scared and anxious, because there was a time (before the internet probably) where it wasn’t even a QUESTION that life drawing is immensely immensely valuable. Now I come to a board that’s supposed to be about art, and it’s infested with autists giving any piece of advice to beginners BESIDES “draw from life/observation.” This is a centuries old tradition with centuries of wisdom and everyone here seems to be focused on some website that came out a few years ago and like 2 books that came out last century as if these are the keys to mastery.
>>7340507You can’t understand forms from 2d images and need to see them in real life to draw them, while claiming that it’s harder. What
>>7340438nice cope iphone tardyou can try to come up with artsy fartsy bullshit all you want but it's still just copying at the end of the day you retard
>>7340582Why do you keep saying this? I don’t have trouble understand forms in 2D and never said that lol. Not sure why you’re so hung up on this. I just find studying 3D forms from life more valuable than from pictures. Pretty simple to understand. If that’s preference then I guess that’s it.
>>7340586Once again, go to a Russian academy or any accredited art academy and say that, and don’t feel too bad when they laugh at you :). Nothing artsy fartsy about it, it’s about understanding form and perspective, and using inspiration from life that to make a drawing more dynamic and three dimensional. If you think that’s artsy or magic it’s probably because you’re a brain damaged anime tard who’s never taken a drawing class.
>>7340587>>7340438>understanding 3 dimensional forms your drawingI can bring up perspective every time too but it’s easier to mention the one thing
>>7340595Saying studying 3D forms and perspective from life is better for me doesn’t mean I struggle with it in 2D. Just chalk it up to preference I guess then, pal. Take care.
>>7340594because you can't use perspective or "understand form" and whatever else when using a photo?you're telling me that when you look at a picture you can't tell that something in the picture is supposed to be rounded, flat, convex, concave etc.?are you actually stupid or is this just a really shitty obnoxious attempt at trolling?
>>7340616I’ve studied it a lot in 3D, so yes I can. It’s easier when looking at it in a photo. Why is this hard to understand. I never said I didn’t understand the form in 2D, just that learning it in 3D is superior. Because it’s harder. Pretty simple. Try to use your brain really hard to understand what I’m saying. You’ll get it.
I'm a chad, I draw lolis from life, I live right next to a playground, the law should do something about it but until they do I won't stop. Also, moms don't seem to mind, helps to have grown in the neighborhood I guess
>>7340438>anime girl floating in white backgroundle cringe!>old naked man floating in white background TRVE CLASSICAL ART, MASTERFUL DRAFTSMANSHIP
>>7340616You can see perspective and form in a photo, but not nearly as well as you can in real life. This isn’t really debatable. The human eyes work far better than any camera ever would and can catch details a camera may not. Drawing from life is better than drawing from pictures in terms of comprehending form and perspective, like how would a picture be nearly as efficient as something in front of you?
>>7341819Kek based. You will be a better Loli drawer than everyone else on /ic/ who only draws lolis from picture. >>7341822Yes
