guzzlerbros...

>>7350131
You can rent colorometers from photography shops

>>7350141
unless you're doing prints I think it's kind of a waste of money, but how much are they typically rented out for?

>>7350133
may day may day

>>7350131
I exclusively work with the Scribblen Play Red tablet in my psych ward

>>7350238
What software?

screenless tablet bros which size is your tablet s/m/L?

>>7350284
Medium size. Non negotiable.

>>7350284
medium is goated, but some people prefer large because they're psychopaths

Nth for the XP Deco Pro is amazing value and a great option if you are using screenless.

>>7350284
small for painting

>The wacom schizo's thread go nuked
rip bozo

Can someone give me a QRD on the lore from this general? How can a tablet thread have such consistent posting activity? Is this a sort of /DAD/ trash general spin off?

>>7350374
TLDR: every general has AT LEAST one insane person, this general's local retard is some very angry wacom fanboy who is trying to derail any discussion of tablets they suspect to be Chinese spyware so we have a lot of spam

>>7350144
$10-$50 per day depending on how nice of a colorometer you rent, the higher price ones are overkill. You cant rent software for them but you can install color profiling software thats free.

I think its worth it to calibrate the tablet the first time you set it up. I own a spyder and I just set up new monitors and tablets, make a profile for day and one for night and then dont really touch the thing again for probably 3 to 6 months, if that.

If youre doing things for print or are using your equipment for photo editing then its actually useful to own one and keep it plugged in so it can adjust with the ambient light.

>>7350374
>How can a tablet thread have such consistent posting activity?
it can't. like 70% of the posts are one psychotic freak that got raped by a chinaman 10 years ago and now jacks off to chinese femboys while cursing their tablets.
the rare times he's been banned, these threads die with like 40 posts, because there's really not that much to discuss anymore. every tablet made today is basically the same and you should just get the best one in your budget.

>>7350374
>>7350381
Yeah we have a guy who was banned from /g/ years ago and migrated here that hates Lenovo and loves ipads and wacom only. He posts pictures of tablets, calls everyone chang, argues with himself, and does q&a with himself to keep the thread looking active. It's really sad.

The one time he posted a verifiable screenshot from himself there was a page full of (you)s from him talking to himself, and a window with 7 or 8 different tabs of gay camboys, which he was actively chatting and donating to.

Im not joking about that shit, it was out of nowhere and its the only thing he wont respond to because he doesnt want anyone digging up the archive of that moment.

>>7350389
>>7350395
>>7350381
Thanks for the history lesson anons.

I'll repost my question here since the other thread got nuked

if my desk is about the length of 2 and a half Intuos Pro Mediums, should I get a Cintiq 16 Pro or a 24 Pro refurb? I'm worried the 24 pro might be too big for my space

>>7350410
I'd just use an ergo arm but I dont think wacom has vesa holes, you need a special adapter

>>7350413
there's an official VESA mount by Wacom 24 and 32 so I would assume it works

my concern is my desk is made of that flimsy fake-wood shit, I got it from an office depot like 7 years ago, and I'm wondering if the desk could even support the weight of the arm

I swear I saw procreate announce they were making a windows version but I cant find anything about it. Am I crazy or did they?

>>7350131
PREVIOUS THREAD >>7337560

>>7350432
24 is fucking yuge. It has a 31" diagonal because it has a massive fucking bezel. You do need a fairly large desk for it to fit. Also if you go the ergotron route, note that the fucker is like 17lbs or something, so you'd need a pretty stout arm.

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>>7350381
>Chinese spyware
You mean like your garbage spyware app you keep shilling, ching?

im a manlet, should I get the 22 inch xppen or the 19 inch one? I know I should get it as big as possible but I can't choose.

>>7350662
XP-Pen is low quality garbage.

>>7350451
They didn't announce anything, they were musing about it in a twitter reply but apple has their balls in a vice so I doubt it's ever happening

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Never buy Huion or XP-Pen.

They are low-quality garbage and the companies are notorious for not honoring warranties.

>>7350284
large , gonna sell it next year and buy a medium one

>>7350670
I've had both and never had an issue with their warranty service. Theyve replaced entire tablets for me when needed.

Doesnt wacom have a bad track record with the red pixels of death and shit?

Anyways how many camboys are you at

The schizo already spamming the same old ass video from 2015.

>>7350682
>I've had both a
Because you're a chinese shill, I know.

Shillbots like you can be safely discarded.

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>>7350725
>>7350731
We don't care about your marketing, shill moron. We already know XP Pen and Huion are low quality garbage.

>>7350770
Who are "we"? You are the only one complaining this hard about chinese tablets, just look at the rest of the thread. I would love to see the screenshot that >>7350395 is talking about.

>>7350782
Chang, you're too transparent. You've been seething here for years now, we know your game, you're a laughable, pathetic samefagging shillbot.

XP Pen and Huion are still garbage. Stop making low quality crap and trying to shill it here. Then when people make honest reviews criticizing your crap you hurl abuse at them like the pathetic piece of trash you are.

Is this what they call projection?

>>7350666
Aww damn oh well

>>7350687
his thread got nuked so now he's seething

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Is there a good desktop art program that can do the edit line type thing that procreate can do?

>>7350965
I know this general means everything to you, but nobody else cares nearly as much, sorry chong.

The real problem is that your XP Pens and Huions are total garbage and a waste of money.

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>>7350982
>I know this general means everything to you
>wacum guzzler is projecting again

>>7350432
They make wall mountable gas arms. Theres a way that people put table mount gas arms on glass desks by adding wood to the clamp or something that could work for your desk but idk.

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>>7350982
>I know this general means everything to you
>>7350787
>You've been seething here for years now
>you're a laughable, pathetic samefagging shillbot.
>when people make honest reviews criticizing your crap you hurl abuse at them like the pathetic piece of trash you are

my dad works for the ccp and they're tracking down the guzzler as i'm making this post, they're gonna find him and execute him for being a threat to national security and single-handedly lowering china's GDP by over 13%

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>>7350131
buying a "better" and more expensive drawing tablet really did help your drawing results?

>>7351132
the only time this can happen is if your brain doesn't like screenless drawing and you switch to a display tablet

>>7351132
If you go from a s reenless tablet to a dispkay tablet, yeah you'll improve as your hand-eye cordination level needs to be less.

>>7351132
no, but it's more fun to draw in a better tablet

>>7351132
It did, It definitely made the whole experience smoother and my work more neat. Its not gonna turn you into a mangaka because of course an expensive tablet wont make you a better artist, but it will definitely help you tidy up things. Better tools means better control over what you do. Rotating the canvas with a dial helped me a lot but I wish it was actual analog rotation.
t. got a wireless Deco pro.

>>7351190
>t. got a wireless Deco pro.
So you got garbage? Ok.

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Why is it so much harder to move your hand from point A to B when you use a screenless tablet? How to get a better flow?

Does anyone here actually recommend surface pro? It seems like it would be too clunky to be useful

I would get a Galaxy tab if clip studio wouldn't be a subscription service

>>7351558
infinite painter is alright

>>7351558
Use Krita instead.

>>7351558
Just wait out until one of their sales and get a perpetual license, its at a reasonable price.

>>7351561
I would absolutely buy another perpetual license but that's not a thing on android

>>7351558
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DivtyKrDyIA

>>7351560
>>7351570
I don't like kritas ui

>>7351559
>>7351560
>>7351572
oh, is the schizo really spamming this hard? lmfao

>>7351559
Are there any anime style artists that draw in it?

>>7351578
I'm not the guzzler, I use it with my MDP
it's not perfect software either, I find it kinda buggy/less stable compared to CSP
but I refuse to pay for subscription jewery
>>7351579
not that I know of
ipads/procreate is the mainstream, tbqh

My house caught on fire and I lost everything my computer and my tablet along with my art books. Good news is I got reimbursed for the value which means I can get a new tablet. What would you recommend for a budget of 1300?

>>7351672
screenless medium wacom. Put the rest of the money in a good PC

guys is it weird that I masturbate to my wacom?

>>7351700
What model wacbro?

>>7351684
nta
but is the one branch any good? I've seen some mixed reviews around

>>7351578
>Hating Krita makes you a schizo
Stay mad no one likes your shitty pajeet software Ranjeet

>>7351776
Adobe is made by Pajeets at the orders of shekel masters. Krita is made by scandies and ruskies.
Jeets hates ruskies now. Ruskies enemies of kikes now.
>Adobe-malware VS Krita.
>EVIL-kikerie VS Wholesome and free anti-kikerie.

That's why Krita is under paid mercenary smear campaign attack 24/7 in this psyop battleground.

>>7351603
Do I watch procreate tutorials then?

>>7350609
>31"
>17 pounds
jesus
would it just be better for me to go with a 16 pro then? it has to be no different than just drawing on a piece of paper in terms of size, right?

>>7351903
>it has to be no different than just drawing on a piece of paper in terms of size, right?
Note that with most desktop drawing software you lose 1/3 of your screen realestate, but 16s are pretty comfy. I still like my 22 a lot though

Oh wow the new thread is already up sorry guys, I wasn't fast enough. I just finished most of the rentry for the exodus to /g/ so I guess when we hit bump limit here I'll make the thread and we can hopefully leave this schizo behind

>>7351918
lol, this retarded schizo banter is fun. Not gonna lie.

>>7350662
The 22 inch is 1080p if you're talking about the 22 Plus and the 19 should be 4k so I would go with 19. At that size 1080p's pixelation gets pretty noticeable

>>7351923
Yeah but people who come get poisoned info and get tired of the thread drama when they want real advice. Don't want that happening because of a literal freak even if it is amusing

>>7351918
>when we hit bump limit here
I can say with near certainty he's going to make the new thread at like 250-270 then spam shitposts like he's already done.

>>7351970
Oh yeah right. I guess if he goes first I'll just go ahead and make the /g/ thread too. However it goes the next thread will have a crosslink to the /g/ one.

>>7351970
So his game's out. Then what? Start the new thread at 230?

>>7351981
You're one nasty mother fucker. Geez, schizos in this board don't fuck around.

>>7350131
My Huion Inspiroy H610PRO V2's gone unresponsive. Tried it in different USB ports, nothing. Not sure if the USB cable's fucked or the whole thing is since I don't have a spare mini USB cable to test with. Wat do?

>>7351672
screenless medium xp pen.
much cheaper than wacom with more features.

>>7351793
>ESL rambling
Peak schizo Ranjeet

>>7352003
Your own fault for buying poor quality garbage, good job retard.

>>7352045
>chinese shillbot still trying to scam people into buying worthless landfill trash

>>7351672
Do not listen to the chinese scammer here: >>7352045

You would be wasting your money.

>>7351603
Nobody cares what a chinese shill like you has to say. You are worthless junk.

>>7351941
This is a board for posting and sharing art, not for shilling your crappy low quality tablets, worthless moron.

>>7351672
>lost PC
galaxy tab, itoy or MDP

>>7352110
great, can you post your art then?

>>7351903
I think ergotron LX can hold it... not even that bad for a monitor

>>7352134
>MDP
Garbage. Piss off you pathetic shill.

>>7352214
*pees in your pocket*

>>7351672
If you want windows get a surface pro
If you want android or ios, ipad but the pencil is an extra charge, or galaxy tab ultra is very nice. Ive heard xp pen's mdp is really good but havent tried it myself so cant vouch for it. I have a tab ultra s9 and its been nice.

If anyone dismissed anything but wacom/ipad
you KNOW its the schizo shill.
He never posted art, he doesn't even draw.
so disregard all his advice, he makes himself obvious when posting.

>>7352318
The guy samefags and asks questions about the other tablets and then answers like hes another person just to start fights
Sometimes he gets mixed up and forgets which character he is playing
Its a sight to behold

>>7352232
>Ive heard xp pen's mdp is really good
You heard it from chinese shillbots.

>>7352567
No im pretty sure I heard it from my cousin but I guess hes a shillbot now because he likes something you don't

Hows that Wacum taste, schizo?

Lightweight drawing apps for s6 lite? Infinite painter starts to chug after like 20 layers.

>>7352593
If you don't want to use Infinite Painter then use ibis, krita or medibang.

Ignore the inevitable chinese spyware that Chang will attempt to recommend.

>>7352232
>If you want android or ios, ipad but the pencil is an extra charge, or galaxy tab ultra is very nice. Ive heard xp pen's mdp is really good but havent tried it myself so cant vouch for it.
sold my ipad after getting the mdp. thing is genuinely the best mobile drawing tablet.

>>7352593
csp > infinite paint > hipaint
everything else is pretty shit.

>>7352593
I think youre just gonna have to merge your layers a lot. Even the beefiest s6 is laggy nowadays.

>>7352104
It's one of the recommendations in the OP, faggot. Go be stupid somewhere else.

>>7352597
>Ignore the inevitable chinese spyware
>use ibis, krita or medibang instead
Is this some kind of joke?

>>7352620
You are chinese.

>>7352608
Doesn't say much coming from a chinese shill like you.

>>7352609
>hipaint
Bong Xiang

>>7352696
post your work and we can compare what I did on my mdp vs what you did on the tablet you don't own.

>>7352597
I tried out Ibis and it works great. Thanks.
>>7352609
Csp lags though.
>>7352612
PAIN!!!! The other thing is that sometimes the color appear when I try to apply it sometimes. Idk if its because of the way different colors interact with each other, but the only way around it I've found is to create a new layer, hence my problem lol.

>>7352725
There is no need to go on this merry go round again. Posting work for you doesn't matter because you're a shillbot.

You're a worthless chinese piece of junk. Nobody cares about your input.

>>7352767
>results dont matter!
lmao

>>7352593
KRITA. Just try it. Thank me later.

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New One by Wacom finally arrived from Amazon today.
Thanks anon who suggested this to me a few threads ago!

>>7353415
It's a beautiful tablet, but that looks small. I have a golden rule with this things, always go for the medium size.
I hope it works for you anon. But if you can change it for a medium size, do it now.

>>7353415
What the fuck
Why would you buy that.
>no hotkeys
>small as hell for the price
>Wired, meaning you can't even move it around despite being small.
I guess you really want hand written signatures in your documents because that's all that's good for.

>>7353532
ok chink calm down

>>7353552
I have two friends (actual artists) who got it just because it was cheap and wanted to get into digital, and were severely dissapointed by it, mainly because its clunky to use.
Its pretty bad for the price, i'd say even a shitty intuos is better.
but of course you eat whatever wacom slop you get served so its not like its gonna matter what I say to you.

>>7353650
Clunky in what way? Honestly asking. I've always used the intuos line. I don't use any of the extra buttons or touch pad feature, or the bluetooth wireless thing, it's just a plain plastic surface with a simple pen, just like that one model. Since I don't use any extra features in these tablets I was thinking to get one of those "One" model. What would be the difference?

>>7353532
Damn chang you are angry.

>>7350131
I need a drawing tablet under 50 dollars. I had a Wacom Intuos Pro M but my house burned down. Anything cheap that is similar?

>>7353666
Don't bother with the chink.

>>7353650
Nikolay Naydenov chooses to use a One by Wacom over every expensive turd. He is far more credible than a stinking chinese piece of crap like you.

>>7353532
>What the fuck
>Why would you buy that.
Again with the constant swearing, chong... you're not very good at masking your posting style.

>>7353673
are you the same anon from before or did two different anons homes burn down coincidentally around the same time

>>7353696
My house burned down in August. I just decided to start drawing again to deal with stress.

guzzlebros we're getting closer to the 250... stay sharp

>>7353666
I mean if you are serious about doing digital art you need shortcuts and space.
Rotating the screen is also a big thing for certain artists, something thats mostly done on screen tablets.
If you want to practice and just casually doodle sure, but I dont think any serious work should be done on something like a One.
For starters it should be a medium sized tablet which the one Isn't.

Man, the wacom schizo is on full force today

>>7353777
But there is medium sized "Ones". About the shortcuts, I use shortcuts on the keyboard. Having the shortcuts ON the tablet itself is totally counterintuitive and actually "clunky", I much prefer those separated remote like devices for shortcuts.
I really like the idea of an absolute minimalist tablet design like the "one". I don't care if it is wacom or chink branded, I chose Wacom because I trust the brand that's all.

>>7350131
At the risk of invoking "him". Is a Lenovo Yoga 7 + Precision Pen 2 (or whatever works best with it) a bad option to start out with? That's the laptop I bought for uni but I'm wondering if it's suboptimal.

>t. actual day 1 nodraw

>>7354055
>actual day 1 nodraw
I'm a big advocate of pencil and paper for starting out. A good staedtler 2mm, a decently big sketchbook and your figure drawing reference of choice will take you far.

>>7353673
Deco Pro MW on sale might be your best bet but that version of the X3 was known to have some noticeable wobble issues on straight lines you will notice coming from an Intuos Pro.
On the used market you can probably get an Intuos 3-5 for <$50 and if the wear is not horrid you can tape paper over the surface. Check facebook marketplace if you go that route

>>7354055
Ive seen people draw on them, you can at least use it as a sketchbook, idk what the quality is like though

>>7354121
>Deco Pro MW on sale
No, it's poor quality garbage.
Stop recommending XP Trash you stupid chink.

>>7353673
Also don't listen to this guy >>7354258 he's our resident schizo

>>7354271
That doesn't say much coming from a literal chinese shill like you.

What do you guys think of the Huion HS611 for someone who's never done digital art before, but wants to try it out?

>>7354482
find a used wacom intuos m if you're going for screenless

>>7354482
Garbage. Stop asking about low quality crap.

>>7354485
>Buys used tablet

"Huh why is the pressure sensing so shit?"

Never forget that for every buyer of a used tablet, there is someone trying to get rid of theirs

>>7354490
I'd agree if it were display tech
screenless is pretty robust

>>7354485
>>7354490
Most people buying tablets are talent-less delusional wannabe "artists". And as soon as they put the pen on the tablet they realize of their mistake. So you have a whole market of "used" brand new tablets out there, and desperate people trying to get rid of them. The only caveat in that second-hand market is that it has to be a reliable brand like Wacom. So seeking used (screenless) wacoms is a good idea.

But if you're going to spend some real money, do it on a good display tablet like a good cintiq. You can't fool around with those, don't try your luck with used ones. Display tablets can have a number of technical issues, you definitely need the official warranty in case the thing have issues or need replacement.

>>7354501
Nah you can get a shit tier tablet and just use AI to clean up any of the issues in post. Most of the halfway reliable drawing programs these days allow you to zoom in and do LLM post processing on cerrain areas. Adobe and Photoshop make this simple.

>>7354505
This is the cope you're using now, Chang? You're shilling your bad quality garbage tablets with the pretext that AI can just fix up the inevitable problems that come with line-wobble and inaccurate pressure?

How embarrassing. Take note everyone. This is why you don't buy Huion or XP Pen.

Why do you guys spend so much time arguing over brands

Everybody knows there's one correct answer and it's iPad Pro

>>7354626
>overpriced pen
>shit aspect ratio
>crapple

>>7354668
Wouldn't be criticizing pens if I were you, ChingChong.

and what, now you're trying to claim non-uniform aspect ratios are somehow a bad thing? Does your small chinese brain think 16:9 aspect ratios are magically better than anything? Your cheap garbage only uses that because it's the standard for computer monitors.

This is why you should never be listened to. You're hopeless, chinese idiot.

got a pro m recently, whats up with the nib fucking vanishing in no time, im on the lightest pressure setting and barely touch the surface but its like im drawing on sandpaper, i love the texture on it but my god it evaporates the nib, are the titanium ones worth buying or will they fuck up the surface too much

>>7354696
Yes, that seems to be "normal". I placed a smooth plastic sheet on top of the surface, it's the only way to save your nibs and ALSO the tablet's surface. You will have to get used to draw on a smooth glassy like surface, or, destroy all your nibs in no time.

A "titanium" nib will eventually damage the tablet's surface for sure. I noticed that before placing the plastic sheet on top. A circular shaped grayish wear started to form in the middle of the tablet, so the surface it's not impervious to the nib's constant touch.

Huion really is the best bang for your buck i'm finding

>>7350131
This Boogie Board is actually pretty cool, wish I could find some videos of serious artists trying to do something detailed with it.

Bought a used Wacom Intuos Pro Large for cheap

Time to see if I got screwed

>>7354954
ive the xiaomi board version, its actually handy for quick sketches or warm-up and its very cheap

>>7355797
How much?

>>7355812
About 100

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What do you guys think of those gloves like pic related

I'm new to digital art, and just bought my first tablet. Do people actually use these?

>>7355813
Wow, if that thing works (most probably works just fine), then that was a total steal.

>>7355815
Those globes are fucking retarded, for screenless at least.
They may be useful for display tablets, since you will be staining the sticky hot screen with your hand secretions and sweat, smearing it that shit all over the glass surface, fucking disgusting. Another reason to stay away from display tablets.

>>7350284
Medium is the best from 22" to 27" monitors
At 32" it starts feeling off, but it depends on the active area size fo the tablet.

I never used a large screenless tablet, so I can't really say how it feels.

This guy does many tablet reviews, and has this video about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWyCl6JwSAw

>>7355815
They're essential to slide across the tablet without suffering, especially during hellsummer

>>7355834
>>7355839
the dichotomy of man

>>7355815
they are pretty cool.
my xp pen came bundled with one and its feels nice despite just being a piece of cloth, its thee for your sweaty hands to not stick to the tablet.

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>>7355815
If you're using a display tablet in the summer you'll need these and some finger sleeves otherwise it gets all fucking gunked up and you'll spend more time wiping it with a cloth than actually drawing
This isn't a display tablet issue btw it's a FUCK SUMMER issue

>>7355808
Post your rainbow work.

anyone tried the brotect screen protectors? apparently photodon are better but they don't ship to my country

>>7355888
Switch to cool and fresh, sleek and comfy screenless master-race.

>>7355898
Shut the fuck up monkey

>>7355900
What tablet are you using anon?

>>7355869
Do you use screenless or screen?

>>7356025
screenless, but its handy nonetheles since i have sweaty hands. it lets my hand slide much more easier on the surface.
I have a Deco Pro MW

how many posts here do you think are the same psychotic freak?

>>7356315
There are two of them. And you must be one.

>>7355972
S9U

Should I get a Cintiq 16, or get a Huion Kamvas 13, deal with the problems and save some money? I started drawing this week

>>7356579
Huion is total garbage.

>>7356579
If you can get the Cintiq why going for anything else?

There is a second gen ipad pro 12.9 with pencil for 300eur in a local marketplace.
Is this a good deal?

>>7356781
yeah grab it

>>7356781
Fuck no. Do yourself a favor and get a 3rd gen or later.

My Wacom sucks.

>>7357131
OK CHANG WE GET IT
jk wacom does kinda suck with how much they jew you.

>switch my screen tablet for a regular pen tablet
reject modernism, embrace tradition

>>7357378
you never had a screen tablet schizo

>>7350284
M is good. S is too small. L is... If you're a shoulder drawer

>>7350395
Archive to that screenshot? Sounds hilarious and totally not off-brand

>>7357385
these threads gave some of you faggots genuine ptsd
>>7357465
I'm using a large tablet right now and it's just annoying, to get from point a to b feels awkward and unnatural, never again

I'm going to get a wacom 'one' screenless, I need to know if those are just like the intuos but without buttons. I don't like the pen design though.

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>>7357666
its cheap chinese trash, better buy a huion or xpen

>>7357666
wacom is low quality garbage

>>7357666
The biggest difference is that the intuos pro uses the same pen as they use for their Cintiq pros, so the very best wacom has to offer but I have yet to see someone who doesn't prefer screen over screenless, it's just more intuitive and comfortable

>>7357733
>I have yet to see someone who doesn't prefer screen over screenless
There are people like Feng Zhu who still use screenless, seems to be more efficient for their particular needs.
If I can have a HUGE display tablet with one of those holding arms to put them in place in the perfect angle with out wiggling around, then a would prefer an screen tablet.
But if I have to deal with a "costly" middle to small sized display tablet in an uncomfortable position, with my hand sweating on an overheating screen, covering my eye-sight, and dealing with random troubleshooting bullshit, then I better stick to my screenless comfy workflow.

>>7357666
buy a used intuos instead

>>7357790
>There are people like Feng Zhu who still use screenless
there are a ton of artist who use a pen tablet, especially if they are mainly focusing on painting and ergonomics but if you are more focused on line art then a screen tablet is just superior in every way

>>7357790
>But if I have to deal with a "costly" middle to small sized display tablet in an uncomfortable position, with my hand sweating on an overheating screen, covering my eye-sight, and dealing with random troubleshooting bullshit, then I better stick to my screenless comfy workflow.
none of that other than your hand covering part of your screen is a problem anymore. it's not 2008.

>>7357808
>2008
Do you mean 2015 onwards? In 2008 cintiqs were still a novelty product.

>>7357666
I am >>7353415

Works perfectly fine for me. I like the simplicity of the device and I haven't noticed any issues. Great for the price, go for it!

>>7357884
nigga I don't care the exact year, the point is none of that is a problem anymore. you can get a 16-24" tablet for under $400 that doesn't get hot, can be propped up at a comfortable angle, and doesn't have any more or less driver issues than a non display tablet. it's all shit that hasn't been an issue for many years.

>>7357884
Thanks anon, I'm >>7357666 it really bothers me paying so much for extra features that I don't want neither use in my tablet. If the 'one' model functions just like the intuos line, I'm switching to the 'one' model for good.

>>7357964
The poster I responded to said >>7357666
>I'm going to get a wacom 'one' screenless
>screenless

I get that you're some unhinged shill, but geez.

>>7357984
There's the wacom ONE display tablet as well. I wouldn't get that one. I would prefer any other big sized chink brand for a display tablet.

>>7357984
was very very clearly meant for the post right above you. the one with years in it. whatever it takes to inflate post count though, guzzler-kun

>>7358061
Getting closer huh... You two retards are funny. lmao

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>Finally switch from an L tablet to M
this feels so much nicer

Anon who orderer the kamvas 13 gen 3 here
Status: still waiting for stocks being replenished.

>>7358471
What tablet are you using now?

>>7358471
Looks like a nice tablet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPBswGotRak

>>7358487
Ancient Cintiq 12WX from 2009 folded over 9000 times.

>>7350965
What happened? Why did he got nuked, besides being annoying?
>>7351132
>>7351425
>Why is it so much harder to move your hand from point A to B when you use a screenless tablet?
Proportions, your screenless tablet isn't a 1:1 to the monitor you use, 1cm of stroke on the tablet doesn't translate to 1cm lines on the screen, so you got to compensate for that in your brain. Screen tablets are more similar to a canvas regarding that, so 1cm stroke is a 1cm line.

I changed my Wacom Intous Small to an Ugee U1600, which essentially was changing the cheapest screenless tablet on the most premium brand, to the best display tablet on the cheapest brand, or at least the cheapest brand before brands that were actually counterproductive.
The results have been mixed.
>It's more comfortable
>There's a lot less chicken scratching
>there's a lot less ctrl-z since my first line it's usually the one I wanted to make.
>The surface is cheaper and has a lot less grip so you need to increase the line correction almost x4 times you were comfortable in the Wacom.
>It's not tempered glass so it gets scratches

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I'm look to upgrade from the huion inspiroy H610Pro v2 I've been using for a couple years but I don't know many tablets
>around $100 budget
>no shortcuts keys (I have a half keyboard so I never use them)
>A5 or slightly larger
>less wasted table space/more working area
what would you recommend?

>>7358658
Literally your asking for the Wacom one >>7353415
But be sure to get the medium sized one.

>>7358672
I saw it while scrolling the thread but it only has 4096 levels of pressure, that's a joke

>>7358683
2k actually but i dont think it matters

>>7358683
NTA. 4096 is more than enough but for your asks a Huion Frego M is close to a perfect fit. If it's too big the Deco Pro MW Gen 2 fits too and is a little smaller (12x8.5in vs Frego 11x9in total size with bezels) but it's overbudget so maybe on BF it will be a good pick.
Both have no shortcut keys but the Deco comes with a shortcut remote you probably don't care about and the Frego is just barebones tablet and pen

>>7358714
>Huion Frego M
This looks good actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpVhKZVFusQ

>>7358714
>huion
No, it's garbage.
Stop recommending your poor quality crap, shill.

>>7358723
What would you recommend?

>>7358719
It's one of the better tablets out right now. Notably has no wobble on the pen for slow straight lines which used to be a Wacom only thing. Also ignore this guy >>7358723 he's our lovable schizo who's permabanned on other boards so he shits it up here

>>7358724
One by Wacom.

>>7358725
No, you're a worthless shillbot. Too transparent. Stop recommending garbage you pathetic chinese idiot.

>>7358725
>>7358730
Thanks anon.

>>7358683
Pressure levels are largely a meme
https://youtu.be/V-79hS5sRQw?si=HMMyOmSbhsh02SbR
https://youtu.be/PRbI02Y0CAo?si=ouylLc6crXlxNERD

>>7358787
Oh, I think the same, but I respect everyone's opinion. You brought some video proof though. So thank you. This helps to decide.

>>7358658
Xcenlabs, it's the only high end tablet that doesn't have these shitty shortcut keys but it costs 200 bucks, around 150 second hand

>>7358819
>200 bucks
No fucking way

>>7358658
Why medium?

>>7358811
That same guy on yt made some reports about wacom one having pressure issues but I've seen literally only him complaining about it but it's worth mentioning since iirc he bought three to test

>>7358811
>>7359017
Oh wait scratch that, that problem is with the display Wacom One. The separate displayless Wacom One is a-ok cause it uses the older pen.

>>7359026
Thanks

does anyone have a good guide for setting up photoshop for drawing?

>>7359120
>setting up photoshop for drawing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOQ0A46IAGI

>>7358868
I'm used to medium, and I have a laptop with a second laptop-sized monitor on an arm over it
if the tablet is too big then my screens are so far

>>7358868
Whoops I met to reply to >>7358672

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Call the free transform tool my wife the way I be abusing it

>>7359282
Small tablets are a scam and they know it. People without a clue about digital tablets buy into that eyes closed, and they get fucked hard when they realize of their mistake. "It was way cheaper than the medium sized, and it looked the same!!!" Many such cases.
Medium is the only option if you don't want to get screwed.
About big size tablets, you don't need those at all. If a medium size tablet gives you enough room to even have some extra little space around, Why the fuck would you even get an even larger tablet? Paying even more? Totally out of the question.
Medium size is the only option. Small and Large are scams, brutal scams even. The fucking companies knows it, they pray on people's ignorance.

>>7359509

Hypothetically then, if your eccentric rich uncle said "I'm giving you a drawing tablet for free. Pick a size." Would it be fine to pick large in your opinion?

>>7359548
>Would it be fine to pick large in your opinion
Only if it is a display tablet.
I talking about screenless in that reply. I wouldn't accept a large sized screenless tablet, it would be useless, and on top of that it would take a huge amount of space on the desk.

>>7359509
Large tablets are becoming more reasonable since companies have been ditching bezels and shortcut keys on pen tablets in recent years. I think the definition of a medium tablet is slowly changing because of that since almost the entire real estate of the pen tablet is just active area

>>7359753
I think that way about the medium sized (screenless) tablets, getting more and more minimalist it just makes me want them even more.
The problem with the large sized ones is that even when stripped down to their bare minimum design and function, they are already "larger" that they need to be. And that, as you say, goes against the available "real state" in your desk.
Even if I have a huge desk with a couple of things on it, I still want a minimalist tablet, as small as possible but functional. The medium sized models achieved that already. All I want now, is the sleekest looking one.

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Any good sites to find paid procreate brushes for free?

>>7359548
A large one is fine if you have the desk space for it. You can reduce the active area if it's too big for you.

>>7360094
Good idea.

>>7361202
https://youtu.be/jDmEtlkpqAY?t=24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e4Qok37Qi4&t=1342s
and you can do the opposite, map a portion of the screen to your whole tablet to get the most out of a small tablet, since a lot of space can be wasted by the drawing software UI.

>>7361221
Thanks anon!

anyone on linux?
i have an old intuos from 2014 or 2015 that i mostly use for sculpting in blender since it isn't large or accurate enough (bumpy surface) to draw.
wacom tablets have driver support for linux, how about all of the other brands? looking for one with a screen this time since i'm trying to get into drawing.

What about the 2-in-1 laptops that can convert into tablets like the HP Spectre x360?

>>7361364
Either xp pen or huion, dont remember but you can go to their support page and driver download section to make sure.

>>7361364
>bumpy surface
How's that?

>>7361381
there are a few spots where if the pen glides over it while trying to draw a smooth line/curve it gets caught on the texture and nudged

>>7361391
Do you mean the plastic surface got detached creating "bubbles" or air? That sucks.

>>7361364
The newest KDE plasma has a built in tablet configuration interface but it's very early. I think pressure configuration is slated for late next year.
The more mature solution is to use opentabletdriver which works really well and offers a lot of extra settings but doesn't enable everything (touch strips, some dials) and can be buggy.

Posted the new thread pretty early at >>7361449 just in case schizo wakes up but I'm looking for critiques of the new rentry sticky. You can post them here or in the new thread and I'll take them into account.
I'm mostly looking to improve/add resources for first time buyers, buying used, and recommendations for what to add to the display and tablet sections but any suggestions in general would be appreciated.

>>7361453
That new sticky sucks, to be honest. Why not listing the usual tablet brands? It's the tablet general after all. Epic Fail. Also way to early.

>>7361453
>I'm looking for critiques of the new rentry sticky
Lamination is different from a screen protector. All of the displays listed there have laminated displays, even those with etched glass. Lamination is the process of bonding the outer screen with the digitizer so that there's no gap between them and there's no parallax like what was commonplace 6+ years ago.

Also for mobile/all in one's, there are the kamvas studio 16 and 24. They're a bit pricey, but they do offer all the same features as a drawing tablet (etched glass, laminated screen, newest pen compatibility, wide color gamut, etc). I have a 16 and it feels identical to their display tablets. If the primary goal is portability I would say the magic drawing pad is just better, but for an all in one running desktop windows, they're solid.

>>7361453
it's alright
tablets are becoming a solved tech / commodity, the main thing to highlight is to avoid small sizes if you can

>>7361453
>>7361564
Also not mentioning tourbox in the macropad section should be a crime. They're expensive but arguably the absolute best on the market.
And I'm pretty sure clip studio's subscription price is more than that, it's only $1 if you get it during their quarterly sales. I forget how much it is normally.

>>7361552
New sticky isn't just the post but also the rentry.org link, that's the real sticky.
>>7361564
Ah yeah damn I just straight up forgot to include that description for lamination. I'll add the description and change those "laminated" displays to "screen protector" ones.
>>7361576
I was wanting to do that but I know so little about them. I'll look more into it. The CSP $1 came from their site and I believe they're not running a sale atm but I could be wrong. I guess if there's a webarchive of it I can check it

>>7361569
Yup that's the same vibe I get. The most recent Huion and XP-Pen pretty much met parallel with Wacom so eventually the reccs will probably just become "get a Xencelabs, XP-Pen or Huion past this generation" since the lists will be too long

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>>7361606
$1 csp is for phones only. For android/ios/windows it's $4.50/month or $27/annual. They run a sale 4 times a year for 40-60% off though, so you can get the annual for ~$12.
Normal sale schedule is around mid march, june, september, and december. Sometimes december sale is in november for black friday, but
https://www.pipelinecomics.com/learncsp/when-does-clip-studio-paint-go-on-sale/
every year for the past 6 years that this place tracks they've had 3-4 sales a year around those times.

I can provide more info on the tourbox if you want, I've never tried their budget ones but I use my tourbox elite every day for like 3+ hours.

>>7361626
Awesome, thanks for that info that really helps.
For the tourbox info I'll probably leave it on the reader to research more deeply because of how big the investment can be but I am interested to hear how well it worked for you, ease to setup and compatibility with different OSes if you have tried to use it on many devices

>>7361626
>Paying for CSP

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>7361626
didnt they scam people out of newer versions by some retarded loophole?

>>7361790
go ahead and show me the working cracked apk for it, retard
>>7361811
no?

>>7362017
If you ask nicely - by throw a "please" and a "sir" in for good measure

>>7361811
>>7362017
I think there was some controversy around the upgrade to CSP 3 and the fact that it didn't technically violate the license for 2 claiming to cover any future updates since 3 is technically a new product or something

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>>7362032
Please sir, where can I get a working cracked apk for csp?

>>7362202
Good morning Sir!
Download Krita and do the needful!

>>7362206
Unironically this.

>>7361626
$1 csp doesnt even have pressure sensitivity

>>7361811
XP Pen scam people worse

>>7362202
How many times do you have to be told there doesn't exist one? tard

>>7357884
This.

For non display tablets do people usually set the active area to just the canvas area and use keyboard/shortcut keys/etc for the panels and buttons (e. photoshop)?

Is there such thing as a desk arm mount for the Intuos Pro series? I have the large version of the tablet, but I don't always want it taking up space on my desk. I'm sure the lack of a VESA mount limits my options, so I'm open to trying a nonstandard DIY approach if necessary.

I really want something small.
Just how bad is the ipad for this purpose?

>>7362429
tab s7 and the 11 inch pro / air 4 will all be very comfy

>>7362431
how annoying is dealing with Apple products and moving files to my PC?

>>7362432
Not very, unless you're completely computer illiterate. Macs and PCs have networked easily for years and years now. I use a NAS for my windows and macbook for long term storage, and I used DropBox in the past to share files before that. I've worked in offices where I was on the only Mac, and I shared files easily.

>>7350451
Never happening.
Never EVER.

Someone local is selling a cintiq 16 pro for $900. Are they any good? I’ve been using a regular cintiq 16 but the screen quality is so ass compared to my iPad Air 3.

>>7362441
no that sounds bad avoid avoid!
you should give me the listing so i can bite the bullet for you anon better ti be safe than sorry

Let's say I get Cintiq 16 which is 1920x1080.
My screen is 2560x1440.
Will I have to lower my screen resolution to work properly with tablet or it will scale down somehow? Will it be comfortable?

>>7350131
Are there any good mobile tablets with windows on board? I've heard surface 7 fixed the wobble issue.

>>7350374
>>7350381
>>7350389
>>7350395
You seem to love asking yourself this question and answering it with the same sperg responses, Chong.

>>7350283
Sai

>>7350324
Nah, it's trash.

>>7352593
Krita

What do you guys use the pen and tablet buttons for? mine has two on each. I'm just barely getting used to digital and i have no idea what to set them to, or if i should just stick to keyboard shortcuts.

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Since they are said to be a bit sturdier than ABS I assume Wacom nibs are simply made from Nylon, but if I theoretically (totally not gonna do it, probably) take the strongest plastic filament I can find will it scratch my tablet?

How do I make my ipad a tablet for my Windows laptop?

What do you guys use for stands/arms for your screen tablets?
I've got an [UNNAMED 24-INCH SCREEN TABLET] and I'd like to mount it on an arm. It has an included stand which I think is pretty great, but I dislike the hassle of having to move the tablet from my cabinet to the table each time I want to draw. It creates unnecessary inertia that I'm hoping will go away if I mount the entire thing on an arm and use it as a second screen when not drawing.

Anyone have any suggestions or experiences of using arms mounted to your desk for this? Is there a noticeable wobble or other issues? Does it work perfectly and I should just go buy an arm?

>>7362461
got ergoflex arm for my overpriced japanese drawing screen, which I at least find completely worth it
the arm itself isn't the problem and cause for wobbles as much as the table is, if you have like a decent office table it should be fine
a decent arm also helps a lot with posture and allows you to draw while standing up, I truly can't understand how people can use screen tablets that just lay on the table

>>7362462
Thank you friend. Based on what you said I think my desk might become a problem as it's a cheap Ikea one that flexes as soon as I put even a tiny bit of pressure on it but I think the benefits might outweigh the negatives in this case.

The Wacoom arm is hella expensive (approx 420eur) but I think it might be worth it anyway. Not like I'll need to replace it very often (if ever)

>>7350131
Just got my used intuos pro M delivered. Wish me luck bros, I don't know if I'm gonna make it but I still need it for university

Bros, I'm only new to drawing with a tablet. I've been using firealpaca like pretty much drawing normally, with the default brush, just doing black and white sketches to get the hang of how the tablet feels.
Now that I think I got the gist of it, can anyone recommend any good guides about how digital programs work? Like, custom brushes or colours or tricks with layers and stuff. Sorry if I sound like too much of a boomer but this is so overwhelming to me.

>>7362467
Go on youtube and find a tutorial on how to use the program. Follow along with it, take notes, whatever you need to do to remember. Thats how I learned CSP.

>>7362456
What’s a good price on a cintiq pro 13? Want to make sure before I buy the one seeing

>>7362459
You need to get an app called AstroPad.

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>>7362445
LincStudio S1 is probably the best for that right now, specs are middling but it uses the same Wacom EMR that Samsung does

I just upgraded from an iPad Air 4th gen to a Galaxy Tab S10 Ultra, and wow, the iPad feels almost prehistoric. The difference in screen size and quality is insane, and the S Pen actually feels better than the Apple Pencil 2. The only thing I miss about the iPad is Procreate, but CSP's Simple Mode is quite good

>>7362472
Cant believe you guys let the wacumguzzler do it again.

I guess this thread really is his life

>>7365106
Try infinite painter. Basically procreate