just how does he do it?
do what?
>>7363483draw lmao
>>7363485I think he puts a pencil on a paper or something and moves it around
>>7363492Holy shit!
>>7363477As an artist myself with 4289 floating boxes after 2 years I can tell you his video is extremely hurtful
If you want to learn how to draw you have to become rich first so you can then devout all your effort to drawing. If you're not rich then don't even think about trying to learn a skill because you'll never be able to devout as much time to it as someone who is rich and will never be able to reach their skill level.
I'm so sick of this fake fucking dramakill all zoomers
>>7363502If only I bet all my money on Trump winning the election, I'd be living the dream by now
>>7363477The ironic outrage and gaslighting surrounding Pewdiepies progression as an artist is kind of annoying.Yes, his wealth has provided him with more free time to pursue other hobbies like drawing and progress at a faster rate than normal people this objective fact.
>>7363499Artists should universally measure experience in "boxes drawn".
>>7363513He states he draws like an hour a day. How don't you have 1 hour of fucking free time? Just all excuses and he's a fucking parent too.
Hello
>made half the art community quitOh BROTHER
>>7363477>making retards seethe because he got better than them by "just draw"based
>>7363522Hey
It's wild that it has gone this far. I think all the people getting mad at this are both self loathing and weird. Like, why be mad somebody is learning to draw and enjoying it? Bloo hoo, he's rich and has time!!!In my day everyone trying to git gud kept a small note book and something to draw with on them at all times to doodle at any given moment they could come by, and even then, all the doodling in the world won't help you of you can't find it in yourself to love your own art and the process. Pewdiepie could skyrocket to the best in 3 months and I wouldn't care outside of being happy for him. Genuinely odd people in the "art community".
>>7363477wait!?I thought AI was what hurting them to quitting in the first place
>>7363477i would assume this is just another clickbait trying to gain views over an issue that does not existNo one cares what pewds does with his life and crabs are not worth giving attention to
>>7363706That was the first half. Pewdiepie just made the second half of the art community leave.
>>7363477>>7363477This is so unfair he said the Nigger word during that Livestream and yet he still able to move to Japan and draw!!! Fuck him- American Redditors and TikTokers
>>7363477I love how all the anigay faggots are pissed since he does a better job at drawing shitty and flat anigay faces than the rest of them
>>7363477For anyone not following this pewdiepie shit: This is a case where nothing happened, but some people need to make it a big deal so they invent enemies that are devastated by the big nothing. Most of youtube drama is people talking about made up people on the other side of an issue as if they're reporting news to the masses.Pewdiepie practiced drawing = this is a nothing burger. He's a millionaire who has free time to copy anime heads.Art youtubers need to spin this event to fit their narrative that learning art takes a certain set of criteria (working hard, etc) and is unaffected by others (being a millionaire). pewdiepie HAS to be either on the crab side (its over) or the hope side (just draw).Pewdiepie learning to copy anime girls ultimately doesn't prove anything except that pewdiepie learned how to copy anime girls. But youtubers NEED to use this as evidence that anyone can learn to draw, so they have to invent enemies and "debunk" them.
>>7363802Yeah because they make money from ragebait content. I honestly think the government should make monetization of social media content illegal. It went out of control. If you want to make money as a content creator it should only be done through your own shop and merchandise. This kind of view based monetization only makes people even more retarded. Social media is a blight on humanity.
>>7363808I agree but there's nothing we can do about it.
God I hate these grifters and the """"art community"""" and all the invented drama that they propagate to grift and make ragebait, and bait potential viewers into inproductivity. Not much unike the crabs in this place.
You can always quit your job and live a frugal lifestyle until you make it. You’ll get just as much time if not more (since you don’t have a kid distracting you) as pewdiepie.
It is exactly the same, and what you have to do is the same you would with crabs here: Ignore them.Trying to correct them is a waste of effort, as they're only interested in throwing shit and you're not gonna win in a shit-flinging competition against them.
>>7363802It’s insane how big of a deal people are making out of this. You’d think dude learned to draw them in a week the way people are acting. You spend time drawing a bunch of anime heads, you get damn good at drawing anime heads. It’s not that hard to understand
What's the "Art Community"?
>half the art communitysource?
>>7363930It’s like the “black community” where a few appointed (by nobody) people speak for the majority by dragging everyone into 1 collective thought bubble. So likewise, a few popular tubers get to speak on behalf of all artists who post to social media. They tell you how to think, how to feel, what to react to, and to like, subscribe, share the video and tell your friends so they can live off the ad sense revenue off your anger and resentment. I hope you see the pattern. This goes for pretty much every “community” online. It goes deeper when every YTber and every streamer funnels people into their own personal discords and use their lemmings to attack other YTbers to create fabricated drama wars. The comments boost each other’s channels and after everything blows over the big youtubers magically make up with each other and their stupid followers forget about it all.
>>7363930me
>>7363938That thumbnail gives me cringe in behalf of whoever drew it. Someone decided to spent more than 1 hour, that could have been more productively used, to go out of their way and -quite literally- caricaturize, Pewdiepie, angry expression and all, into making him a bad guy for the sake of a pointless drama.That is singlehandedly the most pathetic thing I've seen in this board and it's not coming from any of you, worst of all.I feel sorry for whoever drew it and at the same time I want them to get harrassed to the ground for being such a massive faggot.
>>7363477He is white and have superior genetics.Literally what adolf was dreaming about his whole life just to ruin lifes of untermench artists.
>>7363947They are making so much money though.
>>7364004Prostitutes, e-whores, narcos and scammers also make so much money, what's your point and what does it have to do with mine?
>>7364009It's just that despite how pathetic it is, grifting is just so lucrative. Nothing more.
>>7364019nta, but>grifting is just so lucrativefor a select few. most people - like all things, really - who try to grift are unsuccessful; of those who make any money off of it, most do not make enough to fully support themselves.
>>7363540Greetings
>>7364026Salutations
>>7363802Hope he doesn't let it affect him. Dude should just keep drawing and enjoying it. It's wild how there just doesn't seem to be a "community" around any hobby that isn't completely awful and subverted.
>>7363477He's not even that good and is coming from an art background. He even says he can't draw anything else and needs to go back to the beginning and start grinding Loomis now and that he backslid a bunch after month 3 and hasn't been able to draw anything as good since. People are just looking for a reason to give up, I swear.I'm not even that good but I went from a complete beginner at zero to drawing this after 1 month of drawing almost every day and working my way through Fun With a Pencil
>>7363477by being a king.
>>7363477funnily enough that happened even here, suddenly you had a bunch of anons in here who were convinced that Pewds was using AI references out of sheer desperation
>>7363517he doesnt have a fucking job dude. college students need to shut the fuck up on this board
>>7364767raising a child is a full time job... and he also has a job as a youtuber.>>7364112lol people don't respond to toxic losers whining any more. if anything he's motivated to make whining losers more mad.
>>7364112Whenever people talk about "x" community they are always talking about xitter, 100% of the time
>>7364768>raising a child is a full time jobThat's his wife's job. I doubt she's working in Japan.>and he also has a job as a youtuber.he's semi-retired
>>7363477based , it filters retards with nothing unique to show
>>7364767crabs aren't allowed to complain, back in the bucket you go
This is a video by Mohammed Agbadi. For future reference, keep in mind he is dumb as rocks and just wants to get as many views as possible. His channel is not a place of honor, no highly esteemed deed is commemorated there, nothing valued is there. It's better to just ignore him.
>>7364785>boys aren't raised by their dads or need their dadsyou're too young to post here.
>>7364804I'm 30
>>7363477people who say stuff like this is lying to themselves and to others.>he has time and money.you have time too, you just choose to spend it at doing something else. Pewdiepie didn't even study efficiently(seemed to have been one drawing a day some times) and this is the result?imagine then how far you can get if you study it somewhat efficiently. Similar to how David finch learned. https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/>moneyyes electronic tools for/can be used for drawing, art supplies and books can be expensive. But if you can earn yourself enough spare cash to buy some paper and pen, that is all you need to start. fundie books can be expensive, but unless you live in a country that enforce copyright laws, you shouldn't have a problem getting them through online-piracy.
>>7363502This but unironically. My job only allows to me either put several hours into learning a skill or sleep more than 6.5 hours per night, not both. Not to mention there's several skills I want to learn so I'm even more fucked.
>>7363477I wish I had this power to make other artists quit drawing, I'd draw everyday.
>>7364795do you have the racism?
>>7363522>>7363540>>7364026>>7364028SEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>>7365055Hi
>>7365025I believe that every person, no matter their race, is equally capable of making low effort art drama videos that make you stupider just by watching.
>>7363502>Look up classica artists/writers.>It's a bunch of trust fund babies who jerked each other of.Damn.
Why are so many people freaking out? I made more progress than pewds in 6months.
>>7363477>freaking out over Pewds when he pretty much just drew heads and copied refs
>>7365303op has made like 20 pewd threads in the last two months i think he might be obsessed
>>7363502That's where all the classic masters came from. Either rich themselves, or sponsored by rich patrons so they could sit on their ass all day painting.
>>7364795Ah that explains a lot. Dude was getting pretty good years ago, then quit to become a griftuber who takes 20 minutes to say a 30 second sentence. Of course he'd grift pewd's success to crab about it.
>>7363930a non-existent collective consciousness for weak-willed people to project their ideals and expectations onto other people besides themselvesit's also an amorphous substitute for a particular art youtuber's audience when they want to address their audience on how to behave without directly calling them out to avoid feral mobs fueled by fragile egos
>>7365084based take>are you racist?>no, just misanthropic, now stop labeling people that point out the inadequacy of humanity as racist just because the person in question is black - that, in and of itself, is also an inadequacy
>>7363477He demonstrated the strength of will to turn away from the dopamine drip that modern entertainment affords us in order to put actual effort into creating something, and success has a way of breeding jealousyAs someone who enjoys drawing every day I found Pewdiepie’s art journey to be inspiring, funny, and insightful. Yes he is just aping anime and probably wouldn’t be developing as much of a solid foundation if he drew from life and sought constant peer feedback, but he’s having fun and developing his channel so it just works. Why would I hate on him for that?Yes it’s a lot easier to make art when you’re rich and have tons of spare time to relax and work yourself into that creative head space. It’s also a lot easier to start a business when you’re rich and have tons of spare time to hire the people who will do all the heavy lifting for you. It’s possible to do both of those things without being rich if you’ve got the hustle to constantly seek peer feedback and find your next client. But nobody ever became a successful artist or got a business off the ground by bitching about rich people having it easy.Half the “art community” were attention whoring posers anyway so nothing of value was lost.
>>7365415>He demonstrated the strength of will to turn away from the dopamine drip that modern entertainment affords us in order to put actual effort into creating somethingIronically, that's pretty much baked into Japanese society.You can have the loudest most conspicuous consumerist experience in designated spaces. But back at home you have true peace like no urban or suburban American will ever know.That mix of availability of inspiration and temperance at work is invaluable. I wish I too could move there but I couldn't afford half a bathroom.
It would be disingenuous to pretend he doesn't have advantages over 99% of peopleThat said, in the end you get as good as you want for things you want to create. A lot of people get into art for the Patreonbux or just to create 'pretty pictures', don't expect your """"content"""" to last in this day and age if it doesn't have some vision, honestly.Literally anyone, ANYONE could get good at art with today's resources. Not even 10 years ago was it as good as today.
>>7365657I love trying to create pretty pictures.
>>7365657I think his greatest advantage has nothing to do with how much money or free time he has. But that he's 'learned how to learn' as a result of building a popular brand and all the skills that go into that.People here somehow think grinding out 300 pictures of a hand with zero reflection or application is somehow going to make them improve because Dr. Artist, PhD told them to. There's no 12 step program to be an ace artist, y'all just gotta figure that shit out. Stop watching grifters on youtube, stop buying their books, and just go draw stuff, figure out what you drew wrong, and draw it better next time.
>>7365657people drastically underestimate the amount of time they have assuming they aren't in complete, abject poverty
>>7365657Everyone here wants to chase the dream of going from zero to pro in three months but the reality is that it will take 5 to 10 years for the average person to get really good.
>>7365893key phrase: average person it's possible to get good in 1 to 2 years
>>7363808so you want to ban advertising if you are an individual or in certain niches, as social media monetisation is money from selling adverts? so only platforms you allow, like tv stations and billboard owners can sell adverts, but if you want to sell adverts on a phone app, then you shouldn't be allowed? retarded.
>>7365896this, but something like that requires multiple hours of studies and having deep understanding of the subjects. the fags here could barely draw for 2 hours before doom browsing this shithole site or playing warframe/lol for 5+ hours and the retards seething at pewds progress don't even draw 1 hour, they would not at all for mutiple days to weeks to months. pewds fucking draws 1 hour at most a day, It shouldn't be hard to achieve that.
>drama this>demoralization that>eceleb this>muh art cumunity thatI'm tiredi already drew todayi nutted evenimma go play elden ring for the next 8 hours then i go sleep
>>7365912>didn't mention on how long he drewit's over..
>>7365893The key difference in the rate of professional development is the degree to which the individual seeks feedback. If you could imagine two artists producing art at roughly the same rate, but one seeks feedback from his mother who tells him every drawing is fantastic, while the other seeks feedback from a cranky, jaded old art professor who delights in ripping shitty wannabes a new asshole, then you can see clearly which one is going to be improving at a faster rate
>>7365893>>7365896Depends on what you want to create. Cheap abstract artists can "get it" in a few months. Coomer artists will require a lot more anatomy practice and figure practice.And someone who wants to, say, make a comic or become an animator. Well they could take up to 10 years to get to that level. You have to become proficient at every aspect of art.
>>7365917>If you could imagine two artists producing art at roughly the same rate, but one seeks feedback from his mother who tells him every drawing is fantastic, while the other seeks feedback from a cranky, jaded old art professor who delights in ripping shitty wannabes a new asshole, then you can see clearly which one is going to be improving at a faster rateYeah, the former.
>>7365933>pov asian parents
>>7365933adults aren't children and should be able to take constructive criticism.
>>7365933It depends.When i was kid i definitely wouldn't want somebody to tell me that im shit at drawing because it would discourage me from drawing. Now that im older i would take some person that would give me shit ton of critique so i can improve much more.
>>7365933You aren't an 11 year old
>>7365896Depends on your definition of good. i remember seeing that older korean? who started from literal beg to pro (as in industry standard, not the stuff that gets called pro on here) in his late 20s, still took him 5 years of intense practice
>>7365933The department of unrealistic expectations called, they wanted to remind you that unless you’re the kid of loaded parents with deep connections in the movie making business, your vanity project is never going to get the multi million dollar Pixar treatment. If you’re not the kid of loaded parents with deep connections and are trying to break into the industry and join the ranks of underpaid wagecucks bringing the vanity projects of spoiled nepo babies to life, the last thing that someone like a Disney hiring manager wants to see are your princess drawings, they want to see your life drawings. If you want to get good at cranking out life drawings, you’re going to have to subject yourself to a lot of peer review from people who know what they’re talking about. Getting mummy’s approval is all well and good but you won’t get good with that alone
>>7363477The crazy part of this whole thing is that his progression isn't even good for a year. Yeah it's alright for someone who spent an hour a day, which is what he did.These compainers don't even draw, they just want to draw. They wake up, end up scrolling twitter and watching youtube videos, maybe chat about drawing in a discord server. They never draw though. So they never progress.
>>7365899>so that means you hate toast?this is exactly why faggots like you should never be allowed to monetize anything they doit's annoying when every single fucking retard like you and their whore mothers believes they're being le heckin' witty trolls when they misunderstand and twist everything 24/7.wow anon you got a reply, congrats anonnow tell me how heckin' mad and seething i am
>>7365933>calarts>disney>dyes hair>probably brainwashed into the lgbt by that pointThe Asian dad made the right choice to discourage. Saved his daughter from a lifetime of antidepressants and being the end of his bloodline.
>>7366094Woke indoctrination aside, that whole comic is like “imagine what your life could be like if you won the lottery” and mean old Asian dad is there to remind you that a more down to Earth investment strategy is a far more sensible thing to bet your future around. It’s like the whole “follow your passions because you might be the next Picasso” is how elites convince people to part with the fruits of their labor on the vague hope that one day they’ll get to be the one ripping employees off in order to bring their vanity projects to life, while leaving out the part where it’s the company owners rather than the company workers that get to do this
>>7366172alright commie boy, that's all well and good but also consider this:>what if I make it tho
>>7363477PewDiePie is damaging my mental health because he exposed me as a lazy faggot.I started almost a year earlier then him, I'm a neet so there are no responsibilities than just drawing. And he is already better then me
>>7366172>elites convince people to part with the fruits of their labor on the vague hope that one day they’ll get to be the one ripping employees off in order to bring their vanity projects to lifeYeah, surely malice and sadism are the driving forces of humanity. If you can't conceive of positivity without total tyranny then you should honestly just kill yourself.
>>7366216>what if I make it thoCongratulations you are a cog in the machine of globohomo, coerced by you-know-whos to push out work with a message that blatantly serves their political interests, and if you think the HR hags in YOUR company are a shitshow of toxic positivity you ain’t seen nothing yetBe your own man, find your own customers, maintain proprietary claims over your vision, don’t compromise it for the sake of pleasing people who hate you.
>>7366238If you think that the producers pitching movie ideas to executives came up from the creative side of the business rather than the business side of the business, you are exactly the sort of person that they want glamorizing their line of work so that they can continue undercharging the cream of the crop to deliver top notch talent for McDonalds wages
>>7366259I don't think that.
>>7366260If you want to be the hotshot producer who launched a multimillion dollar franchise that sprouted out of your childhood dreams, you’re more business manager than artist and would unironically have a better chance of making it if you focused on the sales side of the business over the production side, because your job is convincing sharks that financing your dreams would deliver a comfortable ROI for them. If anything you need knowledge of industry standard software so you can understand the work flow of your creative drones who probably do not need you micromanaging every last aspect of the creative process.
>>7366283You're on autopilot my dude
>>7366292No I just keep in mind that art is a business and the purpose of a business is to make money and that huge media firms put people from business backgrounds in the decision making chairs while treating their wagecucks the same way that any other giant company treats them, except that the glamour of working for a company like that means that the competition is so intense that they’re not even going to entertain hiring you unless you already have years of experience, which means you need to know the right people to get the unpaid internships that their hiring managers are looking for when looking to take on more entry level talent. And then you break in and make less money than you would working at McDonalds.If you have a genuine vision when making art, going that route is a great way to suck all the joy and soul out of your process and becoming the living, breathing graphical user interface for people who see you as a resource to be consumed and discarded. All the artists I knew who entered the industry left in disgust and were far happier and more fulfilled working for themselves.
>>7363720>CrabsWhat?
>>7363477Good. Crybabies aren't worthy to be artists anyway. Less competition for the rest of us
>>7363802I always look forward to seeing the downfall of drama content creators. From the likes of Illuminaughty (she had her downfall) to SunnyV2. Anyone who make a living from airing out someone else's misfortune shouldn't be surprised when they themselves eventually become the content.
>>7364795>less than 1k viewsGood
>>7370544it has 1 million views
>>7364767The average American spends 3-4 hours per day watching television/Netflix. People have spare time, but unfortunately they don't make very good use of it.
>>7370615Yeah, just got back from work. Im fucking shattered to the point that any thing requiring thought is too much. If I draw I'm just gonna get pissed off at how shit it looks and the fact that I have to work to survive.
>>7363477This feels staged as fuck.
>>7370556Damn he's going to keep farming that out
>>7363802Every minute spent browsing tiktok, instagram, and 4chan could be spent drawing. People are just lazy and butthurt.
>>7370624You need to work on your mental state. Don't you think Pewds is stressed out sometimes because of his child or other parts of his life?
>>7364795we've reached peak goyslop
>>7370902no seriously, people look for excuses especially the fags here and on toctik. They doom scroll and browse instead of drawing and wonder why they still suck.
>>7370624>If I draw I'm just gonna get pissed off at how shit it looksyou wouldn't be so pissed if you actually fucking draw and do studies instead of doom browsing this fucking site. quit with the fucking excuses, fag.
>>7370624Sometimes I come home too tired to draw (or do anything else) and go to bed at 7:00pm. A lot of people dislike their work, and a lot of people are a bit burnt out, but if you're that miserable you ought to go to counseling if you haven't already.
>>7363477how many more pewdiepie glazing threads must you make
>>7363477I became an artist by becoming poor (NEET)
>>7363477fake outrage for views aside, i find it encouraging if anything. drawing a good anime face after a year is a bare minimum, really. whenever i think an artist is a god out of my reach (not the case for PDP though), i learn something about their process that makes me feel better, it's inspiring.
Why do people refuse to simply copy drawings they like to get good at drawing Why is it always some abstract practice completly divorced from what they want to draw like boxes or nude old men
>>7371514>taking one year to draw an anime face That‘s not the minimum that‘s just proving the person isn‘t mentally handicapped
>>7363477>just how does he do it?Did you watch pewdiepie's video? He shows exactly how he did it: he sued reference and basically drew the same thing over and over again.You could easily do the same.
>>7365933>not the edityou know the one
>>7363477If anything this shows the true face of the art community, they hate those with more talent than them and that improve very quickly
>>7371696no it shows that they rather make excuses on why they shit instead of owning it. Just like this board, shitters here scream talent and jeans when all you have to do is just draw. All pewds did was draw 20 mins to an hour a day.
>>7371696No it just shows that art is like any performance based industry where there are a ton of scrubs who posture as a professional but don’t actually put in the time to get up to that level skillwise and are really just doing it for attention and validation
>>7371696The art community just hates drawing and people who engage in itFucking weird
>>7363808Sadly that doesn't change anything, anon.Even if profit comes from products, more views means more potential customers.>>7365899I would very much welcome something to make Internet impossible to monetize, so that people have to go back to cable TV.Fuck off, we're full. The Internet was great when only hobbyists were around.
>>7365913Consistency trumps all, I'm proud of ano->coom artYeah fuck that NGMI niggerbastard.
>>7365933>>7365957>>7366094>>7366172What concerns me the most about this comic is something I frequently see in the art field:Somehow trying to push your childhood characters out there.Nigger you were 8 when you came up with these fucking dinosaurs. You're a professional Disney artist now, can't you come up with something that isn't just your younger self ripping off your favorite Dinosaur movie as self-inserts for The Little Toaster's alternative universe?Usually autists are the main culprit of this, I remember following this dude on deviantart who was 30yo and still making comics (with crayons and no technique) of his "franchise", the main character was just him wearing a cape and he'd been drawing his adventures ever since he was 8.22 years and the nigga can't let go of the first idea he ever had. Can't apply accrued technique and taste from seeing other masterpieces and prepare a decent cast, a decent outline, a decent selling point for his art.But sure, Pixar is dying to buy that as the next big thing, you just need to shit out one more Sonichu issue and they will recognize your worth, it's all gonna pan out.
>>7364744Is that supposed to be an impressive example of 1 month's worth of learning?
>>7372123I'm always terrified when I see what looks like an obvious child on Deviant Art or Artstation, but then you click on their profile and they're like 30. How can you draw for like 20 years and never improve? What if I'm that retarded and I don't know it yet?
>>7372155I'd say it's pretty good, anon.He just lacks a bit more looseness with lines, it's all very stiff and controlled, which might come back to bite him in the ass.Remember to keep the shapes organic and alive, beganon.
>>7363477I watched this. I am not super impressed since all he drew for most of the year were faces. He didn't start drawing figures or bodies until way late into the year. But I also agree with other people its kinda easy to get good at a skill when you have literally zero financial burdens or concerns. But a the same time it gives me hope knowing that you can still learn skills and be pretty good at them past your 20s.
>>7364765Except all he was doing was copying other anime art he found online, a bunch happened to be AI. Someone literally found an AI picture he copied from. The style of anime he draws is exactly the same kind of shit AIslop puts out.He has been copying other peoples art, some of which happened to be AI. This isn't some super secret.
>>7372123They do that for a very specific purpose: they’re trying to glamorize working at a major studio for the purpose of convincing talented people to come work for them for shit wages. That’s why they say shit like “it could be YOUR childhood dreams coming to life!” With the fine print caveat that you basically have a better chance of winning the lottery and financing it yourself. They do in fact like hiring neurodivergent people who don’t have strong social skills so they suck at negotiating contracts but they’re great at tasks that are repetitious
>>7365917>If you could imagine two artists producing art at roughly the same rate, but one seeks feedback from his mother who tells him every drawing is fantastic, while the other seeks feedback from a cranky, jaded old art professor who delights in ripping shitty wannabes a new asshole, then you can see clearly which one is going to be improving at a faster rateYeah I see clearly that both are NGMI hard.
>>7372436finally someone who gets it
>>7363720don’t tell me he’s got crabs ffs
>>7372436>>7372450Wrong. Peer review is the absolute best thing you can do to improve and if you can’t handle a cranky teacher telling you when a piece sucks you aren’t going to be handling a manager with a demanding schedule telling you when a piece sucks. You gotta be thick skinned in order to make it
>copying art before having finished his 5000 cubesLol what a retard
>>7371557if you want to draw like a certain artist go copy them then. fundies are very useful for drawing from imagination though, pewds himself said he regretted not learning some sooner
>>7372496Copying will teach you most fundies if you do it properly
>>7372506How do you do it properly/avoid doing it wrongly?
>>7372510Properly analyze the original and figure out why the artist did certain things rather than just being a shitty xerox machinecopy the original in its entirety including coloring, not leaving out body parts etc.In general just think while copying rather than merely imitating lines
>>7372534Ok, that makes sense. Thanks!
>>7372534I think figuring out why the artist did certain things ends up leading back to fundies more often than not. You can learn them from copying, fundies just makes understand what you're seeing easier. No need to grind tons of boxes, just make sure you can at least tell someone what perspective is, and so on.
>>7372164>How can you draw for like 20 years and never improve? What if I'm that retarded and I don't know it yet?If you really were that retarded you wouldn't be asking this question. These people have zero self awareness. You're probably fine.
>>7363477Lol another proof majority of art community are special snowflakes, whatever, more jobs for the rest of us.
>>7373075What jobs? Pewds drew anime trash. There are no anime jobs in USA.
>>7364810>you have time too, you just choose to spend it at doing something elseI'm not one of the people offended by that he tried to draw, but thinking having both time and money wouldn't make the process 9999 times easier is lying to yourself.I'm using so much of my time that my body is breaking down on itself and I'm just in my 20s. I come back from work, having wasted 8hours(more if you count prep, travel, etc.) of my day for mental work to earn only slightly above the minimal wage, and then I push myself way past my limits and comfort zone to work on my hobbies in hope that some of them will at some point start earning money to free me from this nightmare.What's even funnier, I *also* have been making videos and streamed for the past 5 months, putting in an insane amount of work to get only minimal(2views avg) recognition, which isn't a problem for me, as nothing puts out the passion, but it puts it into perspective how long I will need to never have an hour of rest for. To be clear, I'm not repeating the same thing for 5 months, I'm improving, making notes, getting used to tools, working up my stamina, analyzing other people's content, everything.Right now I'm only on 4ch because I have crashed down too goddamn hard. It happens once a month or so.
>>7373192Sure, but if you're doing all that with a fire under your ass there really is no guarantee that you'll still be doing the same things (or more) when the fire under your ass actually goes out. Passion is a type of suffering that temporarily goes away when you do the thing you're passionate about. If you're driven by it you're driven by the fear of suffering above all else and that means that if every one of your problems is solved you will stop moving.
>>7373233I know I will because I was always like this, just without the absolute suffering to even survive part unlike the last few years.It has kind of forced me to quadruple my efforts due to the post-work exhaustion but if I'll surrender to it I'll never move forward again. I have the absolute determination to never give up on my passions no matter how much life wants me to.Had I had money I'd have both some rest and all of them, and a value of rest in increasing quality is immeasurable.
>>7370624if its such a big deal wake up earlier and draw before work
>>7373082I think he meant selling coom bait to degenerates. I’m pretty sure there is a market for western produced manga but just like in Japan the competition is truly insane and the west doesn’t have the culture of Doujinshi where aspiring artists basically work for free self publishing for years on end refining their craft until finally breaking into the market, often through hentai publications which the west does NOT have any inclination to normalize, so somehow it’s even harder to break into here than it is in Japan which is really saying something.
>>7363477Of course, they are upset; the global art community, including you, is mostly built on pure COPE. No one here or in the drawing community wants to study, work hard, or dedicate themselves to doing something difficult. They just want to keep drawing gay stuff and childish nonsense.
>just draws>everyone loses their minds
>>7363477PewDiePie is one of the best artists. Just get over it.
>>7363720I saw that video. It's made by that one black faggot that does nothing but talk about TikTok art drama, literally nothingburgers all the way down.
>>7363477>literal who on twitter says stupid shit>THIS ECELEB MADE HALF OF THE COMMUNITY KILL THEMSELVES!!!!!!!!111! (NOT CLICKBAIT)I hate these retards and all the retards that shill their cancerous videos.
>>7374416actually a large chunk of people were going ape shit when pewds made this progress. Unless you only browse 4chan, every coping shitter was making excuses on why pewds already surpass them at art, "h-he le rich and has all the time in the world". When he only drew 20 to an hour a day at most, he stated that himself. It was even worse last year.
>>7365877>complete, abject povertyYou didn't need to call me out like that
>>7374615Vincent Van Gogh was basically a derelict moocher living off the good graces of his successful brother and spent his life making chronically bad choices like trying to hawk his paintings to restaurants in exchange for a bottle of wine, and nobody took him seriously because they thought he was “cheating” by using new fangled technology, squeezable aluminum paint tubes, to compensate for his lack of fundamentals where any “legit” artist would be mixing his own paints and adhering to the traditions set by the old renaissance masters. He died in obscurity and bitter poverty and it was only later that people started to appreciate the sublime beauty and textured nuances of his paintings So cheer up. Poverty is no obstacle to making art especially if you learn how to be resourceful
>>7374615Nice, me too anon. Little bit of blogposting, but I'm gonna be homeless at the end of this month. I actually wonder how this will effect my abiltiy to practice. Biggest problem I currently foresee is paper because I run through a lot of sheets per day and I'm just gonna have a small bag on me, so no room/weight for some 500 sheets of paper. That and also places to draw, if I go to a cafe or something and bought a cup of coffee would they be fine if I sat there and drew for like 4 hours or would they kick me out?
>>7374687Assuming the cafe isn‘t super busy and/or tiny they won‘t usually mindUsing starbucks or what have you as an office is pretty common
>>7370624>browses 4chan>complains about lack of free timeAnd that's why nearly every single person on /ic/ is ngmi. You have time, you just don't want to use it for what you should be using it for. Drawing is something you MAKE time for, every second you can find, sacrificing sleep if necessary.
