int telling beg to "just draw" is akin to extrovert telling introvert to "just be yourself"
>>7368068Shut the fuck and go draw.
no it's not
>>7368068in my experience, telling begs exactly what i would do leads to them to trying to find contradictions and holes in the resources instead of using them
>>7368068stop being autistic and redraw that image you posted. Fuck off
>>7368068General questions like "how do I improve" deserve general answers "just draw"Why should we handhold you through your own journey when you don't even specify where you want to go?
>>7368117How do I capture likeness accurately? How do I do so within a more anime or /aco/ style so it doesn’t look retarded?How do I draw the squishy parts of boobs or other flesh when they’re being groped? The spilling out, the gravity?Why are you gay?
>>7368117how do I draw dynamic flowing anime hair
>>7368068"Just draw" is shorthand for "stop collecting books, stop watching youtube videos, and actually fucking draw something for once"Begs think they're going to stumble upon some secret knowledge that makes them good. But they just need to actually try the 30 other things they already dismissed as boring or too hard.
>>7368073/thread/board
>>7368068I would really like to know what goes in the heads of retards that make threads like these.Probably just your average basedbooru nigger i'm guessing.
stop using better artists as free psychiatric assistance
>>7368146People make threads with obvious inflammatory statements because obvious inflammatory statements get lets of replies for very little effort and replies are social capital on this website. When you see a (You), there's a tiny little bell in your brain that rings. That's why people do it.
>>7368172baiting is very easy on /ic/ since its a board full of sincere people trying to do an activity. Watch.>>7368124>want to learn boxing>"just start swinging at people in the street">want to learn to cook>just grab random things and put it in the oven
>>7368122Behold, your new bibleNote: it's harder than it looks. Lots of contours. But it has a wide range of hairstyles, so it's worth it
>>7368124>draw somethingI've been Drawing every day for an hour for 5 years. And?
>>7368233That's only 1800 hours, you will need another 23 years to reach pro at this rate.Give up while you still can.
>>7368197>>want to learn boxing>>"just start swinging at people in the street">>want to learn to cook>>just grab random things and put it in the ovenLets use this terrible analogy shall we?You have a recipe book but you deem it too boring. All you need to do is follow the recipes and experiment a little. Instead you collect 30-40 recipe books without cooking nor following the recipes. None of them fully convince you Instead of trying them, following them and learning to cook from what you have, you dismiss it as too hard and boring , and keep looking for the """""perfect""""" recipe book instead. Congrats, you haven't learned to cook, but you sure have a lot of cooking booksIf this modus operandi sounds familiar, consider picking one and just drawing and doing the exercises it tells you.
>Just draw>No not like that! You're doing it wrong! You have to grind the fundamentals first!
>>7368199I never thought that how to draw manga books could be good but Naoto Date's are unironically really helpfulthe clothing one helped me stylize and simplify my clothes so much
unironically much better questions to ask the more specific the better, if you understand what you're aiming for it's a lot easier to get there.>>7368122How to capture likeness (focus on drawing skulls, once you have competence on drawing a decent skull from multiple angles from memory, draw portraits of photos of different people, try to pick up on the differences of the size and shapes of different features, you''ll build up a bigger visual libraryFor drawing squishy bits, buy a waterballoon, fill it up with water, and squeeze, then take a picture of that at different angles, draw what you see. Repeat while mixing with studies of photos of human women usually in tight clothingy r u ghey? who says I'm gay? >>7368121For dynamic flowing hair, you'll need photo reference, I would also recommend studying line of action, once you start to think of hair as a graphic made up of chunks and can create s/c curve lines you'll be able to replicate a convincing flow.
>>7368340I quoted the wrong anons for the comments, switch the two, and forgive me lol
>>7368068>int telling beg to "just draw" is akin to extrovert telling introvert to "just be yourself"It's funny how a lot of times the simplest advice you knew from the beginning was the answer all along, but you were looking at it from the wrong perspective.Look inward and let your intuition and desires guide you. Want to draw cute anime girls? Look up tutorials on how to do it. Copy drawings of cute anime girls. Want to get good at backgrounds? Pick any books that cover backgrounds and study them; then study the next one. There's no guide to art, for everyone thinks and desires differently, requiring a unique path to their goals. It doesn't matter what you do, that's the best part! Just jump into the water, anon. Sure, it'll be disorienting and maybe even discouraging at times. But enough time will pass and you'll realize that even without a bulletproof step-by-step guide, you still got closer to your dream, simply because of "just draw". Just draw, and keep desiring.
>>7368197lolI think I know the schizo who responded to you
>>7368068if you want to draw a thing look at the thing and draw ittoo hard? trace itstill too hard? look at a drawing of the thing someone else madestill too hard? trace itthere's no magic hereobviously "just draw" is a terrible advice if you take it to mean you should just draw entirely from imagination without reference for hours and hours and hoursbut you would have to be stupid to do thatyou're not stupid, are you anon?
>>7368068Shut your bitch ass up, stop hoarding up resources and fucking draw, you workless HOE.
>>7368068why do you people keep making threads about "just draw"i think most people know that this advice is shit, i have not even heard this until i started lurking here
just draw
>>7368197yep, it's pretty easy to make bait threads. If I wanted some easy (you)s I just make a retarded thread like this or shill you know what.
>>7368233So you've basically only done warm up exercises for a year...
kind of true i guess. if you’re /beg/ you can’t really draw as we understanding drawing. you can practice and study and grind and suffer and while that counts as drawing it isn’t what we want to do, e.g. draw fun pictures.
>>7368068shut up, no one cares, this thread is worthless.
>>7368233Why did you only do warmup exercises the whole time?
>>7368233>drive to gym>get changed>stretch>change back>drive homewhy am I not getting ripped?
>>7368068OK. Well as a beg I will also tell you to just draw. As a fellow introvert my advice is stop being gay.
>>7368889Well?
>>7368742Consider this: you'll get to draw pics that are more fun when you learn more drawing tricksI used to have trouble drawing clothing folds, and once I've learned it, I had more fun drawing clothes on charactersAlso helps me with non-clothing folds too
>>7368068>extrovert telling introvert to "just be yourself"Yes?Faking a personality is how you get unwanted resultsThe "and you also have to actually talk to people and risk fucking it up in the first place because human connections don't magically spawn in front of you" is implied in the premise
>>7368068The both sides of comparisons are equally retarded
>>7368884Because the guide for beginners said to start with this
>>7368068You won't ever get of of the /beg/ without "just drawing"
>>7368068Just drawing is what leads you to understand shapes better in the first place. Since you need to be able to simplify shapes to even form coherent volumes in your art. This kind of formulaic technique is not that necessary since you will intuitively reach to the same conclusion if you just practice consistently.
>>7368889>drive to gymngmi
>>7368124you know when vilppu tells you to feel the form, that goes over every single person's head till they have the skill to realize what he is saying. just draw is exactly the same. we probably should make a just draw guidebook, not really going to far into detail on any given topic but giving them resources that they can go further in. for the most part drawing what they see and proportions are all you really need for a 'just draw' guide, with mentions of 'how to draw a stick figure' (I forget what its called. but essentially the short hand for being able to finish a drawing even a year or so after you put the info down, its fascinating watching artists do their own versions of this and it teaches to put down what's absolutely necessary)and probably a quick overview of perspective, none of the autistic shit, jsut good enough to not be a glareing flaw.
>>7369711due to some college credit transfer problems, I ended up taking ART101 twice, the first assignment in one was Picasso's Igor Stravinsky master copy, upside down, the other is a still life of a crumbled paper bag, and both of those assignment have the same purpose, is to teach the student basic handling of the materials, and the other is to remove them from their preconceived notion of what an object should look like and focus purely on observable. You are not expected to perfect in either tasks and no knowledge of the subject needed at all beforehand.The problem on /ic/ is that I can't force you to undertake those assignments or otherwise banish you until you do.
>>7369716problem is people will not understand what they are suppose to be and why you are doing them, which in school was fucking frustrating as well because the teacher I had just went from "fuck I dont know make a pizza out of clay" one day to actually teaching art but still never explain what any of it was helping with the next. at least the way I see it, the number 1 thing people have problems with is proportions, you can see this even in art that is well rendered that the person has no idea a hand shouldn't be smaller than the lips, getting someone to draw from life and how to recognize proportions would go a long way for most people. drawing what you see not draw what you think you see... but its a very hard concept to explain because drawing what you see and symbols look identical when you have no skill, even if you are doing it right. that picasso image... its probably one of the better ones for it but I honestly think its shit at the same time because its honestly a garbage image, I would probably want to have them shadow map a contour of a real person and then overlay that and see how close they were, and determining where they were wrong, and do it again, at least till they are 90~% the way to perfect, shoudlnt be too ungodly hard and a half way decent warmup excersize to do daily.
>>7368233have you ever just tried drawing what you actually want to draw? christ almighty this place is an insane asylum
>>7369745I can't draw anything
>>7369716art schools also ruin artists. Crying about technical proficiency is a post-modern thing. Before, artists would absolutely need to be taught, but by mentors and with a task or goal in mind, whether it's just beauty or a specific type of art that was the only thing available in their world.In short, art school doesn't tell you what you want to draw. It tells you what you should know how to draw.
>>7368090I feel like telling begs exactly how I do it will just confuse them, and then they'll just ignore all the advices I gave them and we're back to square one a year later. There's no hope for people who refuse to learn. They're stuck with 'if I try hard enough something will come out'. They dont take a few steps back and review what the fuck they were doing wrong or what the fuck they were doing right.
>>7368124Just draw is literally just try various shit out, find out what worked and what didnt. You're not gonna discover that if you're still hung up with that magical miracle bullet. I revealed to another artist how I draw and color eyes, and he was surprised at how simple I drew them, like only 4 steps but still looked better than his.
>>7369843You keep locking your own cell door from the inside and tossing the key out of reach, every time you say that.
>>7368068>how do i draw anime girls>just take anime girl drawings you like and copy them>how do i draw landscapes>jus take landscapes drawings you like and copy them>etceasy as thatsometimes the basic advice is the best advice but people would rather wait for the magic book which will somehow do the work for them
>>7368233Please just draw the thing you want to draw, you don‘t need to grind fundies first jesus christ.
>>736806890% of begs don't follow advice anyway, no matter how good it is.
>>7368117Begs literally don’t have the experience to know how and why their art is lacking so giving them general advice perpetuates the cycle of them asking vague questions which apparently pisses you off enough that you bitch and moan about it incessantly. >>7368068You need to study what actually goes into a drawing and research the terminology. For example “value” is a term that’s vital to understand if you want to improve at art. There are also exercises you can do to improve at spotting differences in value, along with more specific studying you’ll need to do to understand what values you’ll need to use when rendering varying types of material. Drawing is hard to learn because it’s a variety of skills you’ll need to learn that get condensed into the phrase, “just draw” which is basically like telling someone, “just ride a unicycle”. If you want to begin with the broadest, all-encompassing terms read the sticky in the pinned thread.
>>7368068I "just draw", basically bullshitting my way through everything, but it's pretty clear there are shortcomings that slow me down quite a bit, and there are clear concrete fundamentals that you need to learn as an artist and can't just teach yourself.
>>7372501I would do it if I could. HOW should I do this?
>>7373167Dont listen to him, do another page of shapes
>>7373304I've already drawn 10 layers of circles, now I'll finish with 10 layers of squares and move on to triangles...
>>7373318Damn do more cylinders and boxes rotating in space I'm sure that'll make you git gud
>>7373167like this
>>7373167Take pic you likeOpen drawing softwareCopy what you see while breaking the pic down into formsIf that‘s too hard do a trace first and try to cooy again afterwards now hopefully knowing what forms workIf it looks even halfway acceptable move onto the next pic and do the same process againRepeat till good
>>7373352He won't do it he only draws shapes so he can shitpost about it
https://youtube.com/shorts/GBg9bR0EIoE?si=7_AoccEUozwzfHB4
Draw when drunk to stop yourself from overanalyzing shitMileage is by far the most important thing
>copying art you like before having done your 5000 boxesYikes, better not do that and risk permanently dooming yourself to /beg/dom.
>>7373986If it looks like shit you try to figure out why and try again and again until it doesn'tAnime girls have such simplistic anatomy that it really shouldn't be an issue
>>73731671. Look at thing2. Draw thing
>>7370896pyw
>>7368068the solution to introversion is to literally just do it and stop freaking the fuck out>t. an introvert
>>7368340>For drawing squishy bits, buy a waterballoon, fill it up with water, and squeezeI would suggest getting one of those satisfying gel-filled squishy balls rather than a waterballoon ackshually
the only true, real, fundamental FACT about drawing is capturing form. You need to make sure that what you drawing has form. Everything else is a subcategory of form.>anatomyThat's just form, getting close to how real humans look gets you close to form, but you don't even need to be anatomically correct. It just needs to be coherent enough to have a shape.>perspectiveThis is just form at an angle. Making things look like you are LOOKING at them, gives them a form. >line qualityThis is form, you want the lines you create to imply a shape within them. The lines don't need to perfectly outline something clearly, it just needs to make a shape pop out at you = formSo the only thing you should be practicing is improving your form, that's the only metric you need.
>>7375369Let me introduce you to this cool new invention: Color
>>7375369>you don't even need to be anatomically correctI wish constructoids would learn this, they might progress a lot faster. Drawing a 'perfect' figure means nothing if it's just a flat, lifeless rendering on the page
