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The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>7375816

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
https://e-hentai.org/g/2042453/83e7da6ed0/
Making Comics
https://annas-archive.org/md5/d55168f7579c1e23275d1fc9f0a2255d
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
https://annas-archive.org/md5/2877da11e2f852d220853e9944e6ea49
Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwriting
https://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/
Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga
https://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdf
The Shonen Jump Guide to Making Manga
https://mega.nz/file/i81imLpI#GcheJ9Jjk3lw1RE9nQWgL4RG4wEBNOcRmgA-iaU6Wpg

Videos:
"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"
Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videos
Full MANBEN Series link: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0GiIM_rGEGPjTGQ4HadH4eizLu5E49Tz&si=gpRcOXt_H1l3shNF
Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videos

Source of OP image is Bartender Volume 17 Chapter 129.
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>>7391920
Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Iconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/)
>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press
>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration
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>>7391921
Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/
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>>7391923
Current Contests:

Silent Manga Audition 22 "Seized With Rage":
https://www.manga-audition.com/

Global Comics Awards 2024:
https://en.mangadraft.com/contests/global-comic-awards-2024.en

Webtoons 2025 Contest:
https://www.webtoons.com/en/notice/detail?noticeNo=3321

Mangano:
https://manga-no.com/mangano_award_1st#rules

/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9
(Anthology project is defunct but the discord is alive)

Additional community added Resources:
Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videos
Ganmo, a job listing board for manga assistant work: https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/posts

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.
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Haven't tried making anything like this for a while. I only realized after the fact that I basically repeated structures with both of them. If this was to be a first page, I imagine the MC's face not being shown in full is probably a negative. The art isn't very impressive, but I have a hard time figuring out 'where' I should be trying to improve it, if anyone has any ideas. It's easy to tell how amateurish it is compared to others, but analyzing exactly why that is, is tough for me.
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>>7391939
>a 4 koma for ants
What a progressive era we live in.
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>>7391945
Haha, my bad. I draw on a pretty big size, so I have to reduce it a lot. I apparently got the % wrong.
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>>7391920
https://wordlessmanga.com/eng.html
I dunno if anyone's mentioned this contest
like a way superior sma
8-60 pages, deadline at the end of February
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Tentacles time.
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I just tried drawing in 600dpi and I love it.
But
I also just finished 23 pages in 300dpi

I don't know what to do.
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I tried scanning my doodle again, I tried to do some hatching this time. how's this?
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what drawing software do you guys use? i'm using krita, i'm learning to draw right now, but i want to make a comic. i watched a video that said comics should be in 300dpi and i don't think you can do that on krita, so what software should i use?
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>>7392065
かわいいい
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>>7392053
Nevermind, it wasn't the DPI that was the issue, it was my canvas size.

>>7392088
I use photoshop, but I wouldn't recommend it.
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>>7392088
actually you can do 300 dpi on krita
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>>7392065
The way you draw clothes is really good anon
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>>7392088
Like >>7392100 I also draw with PS, but I'm personally neutral on it as a program. Only use it because I'm so familiar with it since I used to edit pics for years before I ever started drawing. I would personally have gone to CSP (which I also own) fully if I hadn't been exposed to PS prior.
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>>7392098
:D
>>7392129
Thanks. I wish i wouldn't lose so much of the pencil details when scanning
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Alright chaps, here is my first chapter (linework)
https://imgur.com/a/2D2Fm3i

Any and all feedback is welcome and encouraged
(even the nitpick and continuity errors)

Gonna start screentones this weekend then moving on

If anyone hasn't read or wants to re-read the prologue it's here:
>Censored
https://tapas.io/series/Jack-Money
>Uncensored
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/117534215
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>>7392088
CSP.
>i watched a video that said comics should be in 300dpi
Videos are stupid. If you want to print it then 300 DPI is too small. It's fine for digital but any size is fine for digital, depending on what you're doing. One of the biggest webcomics of all time, Homestuck, was almost exclusive drawn on 650x450 gifs -- because that low-res aesthetic was what the author was going for. There's no reason it needs to be 300 DPI.
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>>7391925
>Ganmo, a job listing board for manga assistant work: https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/posts
Has anybody here ever applied before?
I notice a lot of this job offers are remote job, I wonder how improbable is the possibilities they would hire foreigners?
10k JPY a day seems nice for a third worlder like me.
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>>7392299
You could be the first. Only way to know is to try. I thought it was a long shot that my publisher would work with somebody overseas, but it's working out. Maybe you could work as an assistant after all. Just try to brush up on your japanese, I don't think you could get away with having somebody correct it like I can.
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I found this little notebook from when I was in like, middle school
never used it cuz it seemed dumb
now I'm 11 pages into a little one shot
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>>7392065
So cute! Makes me want give her a tight hug
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>>7392384
Awesome old-school shonen style.
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>>7392088
I used Krita. Its text editor is a bit bothersome (but not unusable, like other people would lead you to believe) and features that are standard in comics and manga are harder to do there, but it was good enough for me. I've been using CSP recently and it's really good for comics.
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>>7392395
it was a random choice
I wanted to try practicing the sorta movement they had in the old manga
but I don't know if it'll really be able to be translated to my normal stuff
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>>7392232
I think you should work on your line weight more. Aside that very good, keep going.
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got too busy playing videogames instead of drawing comics, whoops!
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>>7392414
Welcome back anon, what were ya playin?

And you'd better say something good
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>>7392459
Sekiro :)
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>>7392513
Is the pattern recognition gameplay that people say Sekiro has super strict? I was on the fence about getting it but didn't get it because I didn't know how unforgiving the game was gonna be about Simon Says.
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Did some chages, changed the brush still having problems with monster colour (if someone has suggestions) and what's left is drawn the shoe and start painting with detail
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>>7392513
You are legally pardoned
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>>7392534
P.s. do anybody knows how to make round oil brush more sharper? Like with the g pen
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>>7392513
that game is harder than making mangas
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I noticed I need more artworks to promote my comic
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>>7392615
Looks interesting, where can I read it?
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>>7392640
Here
https://globalcomix.com/c/altarusia/chapters/en/1/1
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>>7392232
i like it, but at the end of the prologue you would have benefit with some words in the last pages, with the chapter i would just to point out two pages this one with the chicken scratches and...
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>>7392914
And this one with the sketch layer still under
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>>7392615
This is a particularly nice drawing of her in color, quite possibly the nicest you've drawn yet. The calm orange colors are really nice here. I may potentially draw someone designed to be a lowkey homage to her in my own comic.
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Would it be worthwhile to sink a bunch of money into making a comic? I got asked this, but I didn’t have an justifiable answer myself so I’m curious what other anons think
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>>7392926
Really depends. You can make a comic by buying some printer paper and some pencils and pens. Might cost you like, $20. Or you can spend thousands on tablets, a good computer, and stuff to work digitally.

Depends on how you go about it.
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>>7392926
As >>7392935 says, it really depends on what you're spending money on. We talking just equipment, or are you talking about spending money in terms of getting actual prints done? What is "a bunch of money" to you?
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>>7392926
No, not at all since comics are some of the worst return on investment you could possibly get into. Even big legacy titles are not making the money they used to and struggling to sell enough to break even.

Comics and manga are purely a passion project unless you get super lucky with a Jap publisher and get huge (regular published authors still make peanuts, usually not even a living wage)
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>>7392939
>>7392935
Oh, I wasn’t talking about equipment. I’m that anon from the last thread talking about hiring an artist actually. I have everything to draw myself but I think I should probably hire someone else to do it. A bunch of money would be in the ballpark of 1.9k a year for 96 pages
>>7392944
Damn, I knew I probably wouldn’t make any money back but I didn’t think it was that bad
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>>7393016
>I’m that anon from the last thread talking about hiring an artist actually.
Oh, well that's different, then. Well, it really does depend - is seeing your story in a book form worth spending about two grand? Keep in mind that it's not like you're just pressing the "buy" button and that's it. You're still engaged with the artist during the process, and there may have to also be revisions unless you're willing to just be completely hands off and take whatever gets made.
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>>7392917
>>7392914
Noted, thank you
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>>7392384
the actual 10th and 11th pages, I just thought the last two looked the best so far to post with
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>>7393029
I’d be all for bouncing ideas and revisions so long as they make sense but.. It would actually be way more than two grand kek I was planning on going the webtoon/tapas route and it’s a long story that’s almost done so, the grand total would maybe be more like 10k start to finish? 1.9k is just the most i’d pay in a year. That’s why I couldn’t come up with a justifiable answer to spending that much, as badly as I want to tell my story
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>>7393135
What's this story? It better not be some "woe is me, my life was so hard" autobiographical shit
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>2 hours of pain-ting down the drain because csp crashed
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>>7393206
>too retarded to press ctrl + S
average mmg poster
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>>7393206
Does CSP not have autosave?
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>>7391920
how long would it take you guys to draw something like the top panel of the OP
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>>7393218
Hour, maybe
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>>7393206
nigga how d you go 2 hours without saving?
i save like once a minute
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>>7393135
If you dont want to blow 10 grand, you could just join the rest of us and draw...? Either way, the cost must be paid - through your wallet or through your sweat. Wanting to tell a story quickly became the reason I kept drawing past the first month of drawing at all and kept me grounded while I did fundies. The girls weren't gonna draw themselves.

>>7393206
>He doesn't save compulsively
Lol, lmao even.
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>>7393135
Just write a book. If your story is any good, it will do just as well in text form.
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>>7393218
Characters like half an hour, backgrounds... like 3 months
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>>7392921
Thanks. It took me a whole day to get the colors right Xd.
> I may potentially draw someone designed to be a lowkey homage to her in my own comic.
What is your comic?
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>>7393218
an hour, not including the time spent searching for a suitable photo of a bar, or creating one in some 3d game or modeler program.
In my experience, backgrounds take the longest if you hand draw them, its much better to trace photos and things. Nobody has time to set up 5000 perspective lines and cross reference multiple photos to make sure its perfect.
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>>7393218
I've been sat here thinking so hard on it
but I think just working the way I do, probably an hour and a half
and most of it would honestly probably be me finding places to hatch
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>>7393206
>>7393212
>Use Paint Tool Sai
>Program autosaves
>PC crashes
>The file gets corrupted
Even though it takes up space I save each stage of the work as separate files now.
I need another ssd though.
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>>7393212
I just restart my laptop, and It does, it actually had it saved it thanks fucking god

>>7393211
>>7393223
>>7393231
I would save more, but my potaro laptop takes like 2 minutes to save and freeze, and become usable again
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>>7393241
AECAST. If that's no good for you let me know and I'll make sure I won't.
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>>7393259
If my files get corruted, i would literally kill myself
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>>7393264
I love your comic bro I would love to see the homage!
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>>7392615
I think that people in blue sky are getting a lot of visibility
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>>7392414
>got too busy playing videogames instead of drawing comics, whoops!
Hahaha. Many such cases. I'm guilty too lol
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>>7393273
Lol I'm glad you like it. Ok, when I'm storyboarding later for the next overall story arc after I finish this current chapter, if there is a place to naturally put """Madalena""" in (since it's going to be a reference and not the literal girl) I will consider doing so.
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>>7393218
I can't time how long pages or panel take. I just keep drawing until I give up trying to save it.
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>>7393238
>>7393243
Are you guys serious? Backgrounds are the easiest shit for me. At least common interiors like that. Characters on the other hand... Might take me a day or more
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>>7393218
If I was seriously working on it? Maybe 1 to 2 hours. Maybe 3 if I was sick or something. Backgrounds like this interior are not THAT complex to draw.
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>>7393135
The story can't be that important if you're too lazy to draw it yourself.
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>>7393261
I had it happen one time where my laptop crashed while one of my pages was in the process was saving. So, not only did I lose all the progress in that particular session, but the file also corrupted so I couldn't even open it and had to start over from scratch.
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>>7393336
Oh, shoot. Looks like that's happened to other people before, too. >>7393259
Shit really sucks, and completely kills your motivation and momentum.
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>>7393336
I'm so happy of having backups, your post physically hurt
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>>7393336
Please get yourself a cheap cloud storage if you can afford it and back things up to it every hour or so. Or wven just a physical spare hard drive. Jesus your post physically hurt to read.
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>>7393364
>>7393261
Why don't you guys use google docs? Is it a bad platform?
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>>7393203
Nah, no way I’d write about my boring ass. I’m also that anon who was talking about writing slice of life type shit in the last thread too. I just like exploring different music scenes over the years, mixing different personalities and backgrounds with each other. Satisfies my tisms
>>7393231
>>7393308
I actually did start drawing it, some thumbnails and things like that but I noticed I get discouraged when it’s time to do final pages so I figured that’s telling me to hire someone else to actually get it done
>>7393236
That actually crossed my mind the other day funnily enough, starting it as a novel and possibly adapting it into something else later once it’s out there
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>>7393212
Not him but autosave is the cause the majority of the crashes I've had with CSP. Better to just get used to hitting ctrl-s every few minutes, it's not hard and it's a good habit to have in general.
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>>7393259
>>7393336
I just make sure to copy/paste the file I'm working on one folder up. That way even if my PC crashes and the work file is corrupted I know I have a backup fairly up to date.
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>>7393364
>>7393376
Csp has his own, or at least that's what i think, also i have a duplicated file of the project and one upload on dropbox
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>>7393391
Well, I have the final files backed on on two laptops, and in two external drives. Its just that the in-progress ones are stored on a single laptop until I finish them and move them.
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I'm learning to draw and at the same time I want to create my style by combining my favorite artists.
For female design I picked my favorite porn artists and for male design I picked up Yusuke Murata, Hirohiko Araki and Sui Ishida.
My problem is I am wondering if I can pick yet another artist for male design since I have 6 for female design.
Any recommendations?
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>>7393431
>For female design I picked my favorite porn artists
You want all your women to look like sexually charged bimbos ready to suck dick at any moment? Don't get me wrong I genuinely ain't judging; if thats what you want all the more power to you. Just you may end up with some exaggerated bobs and vagene lol.

Also, which porn artists? This is VERY important for your fellow artists' research purposes.
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>>7393431
>not also picking male porn artists for reference
for shame
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>>7393436
>Also, which porn artists?
I think they are more minor ones but these are
>スミ (Kyomu no uriba) / Suminagashi (booru name)
>Tsukareta-san
>ミコジン / Mikozin
>エクレアぢゃん / Ekrea yan (booru name)
>犬舌トモ / Bell Orgel
>与永 / Yonaga-san
Last 3 are strictly mosntergirl artists.
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Never give yourself a break from manga making. Getting back to it will be a pain.
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>>7393461
>that list of porn artists
I wasn't aware I had been talking to an anon of some taste, refinement, and culture. I retract my last prior comment.
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>>7393448
>>7393474
So do you have any recommendation for the missing artist on the male design?
I just get this feeling my practice has a missing link. I though of spicing it up with some Miura but that doesn't quite catch it I feel
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>>7393469
I'm taking a break to work on a video game instead, I was getting really burned out. The next thing to do would be to fix stuff on my storyboards, including an entire chapter that needs to be rewritten. Also, seems like /agdg/ is going down in flames again thanks to some random resident schizo.
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>>7393469
Opposite for me, I get that hyper fixation burnout, take time off, then come back.
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>>7393494
Can I design an NPC?
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>>7393564
For the game? Sure. Anything goes.
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>>7393569
What's the setting?
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>>7393469
this. I keep replaying in my heard exactly what I need to do and I just can't bring myself to start the 60 hour grind.
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pages 12-15
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>>7393748
Looks great.

>>7393813
Funny. You really nailed this style.
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>want to do a study
>decide its gonna be on hatching
>do a berserk study
what did I mean by this, i am so tired already.
Is there no faster way to hatching than just making all the lines by hand? using " hatching brushes " doesnt even look good at all
pic is the wip
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>>7393961
Just move your hand faster
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>>7393984
gonna get RSI if i do that :(
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>>7393593
It's a simple fantasy setting right now.
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>>7393961
you just gotta enter zenmode and strap in
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>>7393961
I would rather shot myself in the balls with a shotgun, than do hatching, i just pain(t) for 2 hours yesterday and i will be out of commission for at least 2 days
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>>7394011
I tried

>>7394206
don't shoot yourself in the balls anon, hatching is actually quite fun if you take breaks regularly to avoid rsi
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>>7394224
That'a the thing, is that's way too fun that you forget about yourself and keep doing it until you arm stop working
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>>7394238
Welp I'm done. I agree it is fun to hatch. I probably shouldn't hatch a lot and work out on the same day tho, lesson learnt kek
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>>7394247
Serpico my beloved. The hatching looks pretty dang good, too, good job.
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For those on Bookwalker
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>>7394247
mostly good, hair is understandably a bit of a shitshow.
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>>7394253
Love him

>>7394257
The hair was the hardest, can't get it to look right. Granted I fucked up the line weight, if I used thinner lines it might've worked
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>>7394206
hatching is what I look forward when drawing

the other day I tried to use the marker brush I use for sketching to paint in some values and it looks pretty cool and converts decently to screentones I could maybe use it in real comic pages
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>>7394247
You're doing great, keep going.
>>7394264
I love Serpico too.
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Guys is there any server? There is one linked in the OP but is it about manga? I cant understand it
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>>7394296
Cute, post it with just the hatching?
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My first manga I ever did I redrew it, still trying to figure out perspective rulers so I can draw the room properly.
>>7394247
great effort anon, looks good
>>7393813
love it its giving me osamu tezuka vibes/old school manga
>>7393748
are those koi fish? it'd be a bitbetter to add fish scales as a detail
the shading is a little muddy/washed a bit, like ehr chest is blue is clashing with the green
itd be nice if the cross was moredetailed/shaded
>>7393261

what drawing program do you sue? I feel if you used a tree leaf brush it'd reader more like a tree
the shading looks messy because its a smaller brush doing the shading
looking forward to see you polish it more but good job
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>>7394379
the one is the OP was gonna be an anthology project, but that didn't go anywhere
now it's just a few of us hanging around shooting the shit while we make our manga, pretty chill
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>>7394409
Ah okay, I will join
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>>7394381
like this?
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>>7394392
Anon, the girl in the large panel on the left side of the "page" has arms that are a bit wonky proportions-wise. I'm mentally redlining it and I feel top half of her arms are too long (from shoulder to elbow cavity) relative to the bottom half.

>>7394247
Hey, that's bretty gud.
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>>7394434
ty for pointing that out i'll look into fixing it
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>>7394392
>are those koi fish?
They are just there to represent the ancient christian symbol. The cross ''fishing'' the fishes like the apostles ''fishing'' men.
> if the cross was moredetailed/shaded
I will add something
>the shading is a little muddy/washed a bit, like ehr chest is blue is clashing with the green
Yeah, Idk if I can change it now but I will see what I can do. Maybe I should ask in another general for this problem in specific.
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>>7394433
Yes, very nice, I like it. It seems drapery is a good subject for hatching studies as well. My thanks.
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>>7394482
>It seems drapery is a good subject for hatching studies as well
yes drapery studies are goated to learn hatching
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colored it gonna try tom to hammer out the bg
>>7394527
based
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>>7394527
Cool stuff. Its giving me motivation

>>7394433
Also slight error on this one, shes got two left feet (notice the toes)
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>>7394568
FUCK
the ref tripped me up because the bitch has her right foot on her left even if her legs don't look crossed
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>>7394582
Hmm she crossed her calves tho
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>>7394460
Better?
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there's got to be a starter pack of screentones somewhere. Creating them from scratch in csp takes way too long and I would rather just use the exact same ones that manga uses.
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Finally done with the boring painful part. The window beside them will be shwoing Earth and some srtuctures that will be like docking stations in space. Can't wait to draw that part.
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>>7394633
>he doesn't just tap into the free community assets
Bruh. BRUH.

https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1845097
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>>7394642
I don't want to bloat myself with more brushes, I was talking more like a big sheet of screentone I can cut out from when I need....
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>>7394646
If you have a subscription you can download 30 real scanned ones from IC something in the store. If you google it you can find it im too lazy
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>>7394628
looks better anon keep at it
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>>7394670
thanks
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Done
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>>7394555
cute lolis
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>>7394392
Welp, i haven't sue any program yet, but what i'm using is clip studio pain(t the t is silent) and you are right about the tree leaves, is just that i was picking the colors
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>>7394379
I think there is no discord because it ruins small communities of artists, especially one about drawing as much as comics demand.
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I saw a schedule of a mangaka posted on /ic/ once and it was like 6 hours of storyboarding and then the next day, another 6 hours reserved for "fixing storyboard". Blackpilling....
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If i included an 8 foot tall tomboy with the body type on the left into my comic, would that be too much for normies to handle? Where's the line between quirky character design and uncomfortable fetish shit?

>>7393813
also fuck awesome job, thats pro tier, not that its perfect, but that its certainly good enough to sell

>>7394247
Great study too, keep at it
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>>7393469
It truly is. I never came back. It's been 4 years since the last attempt and that one lasted whole 3 pages.
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>>7392065
Please learn how to draw clothes and figures. Somehow I can't help but notice the boob pockets and that weird hand
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>>7392065
Study clothing from life, it will help you tremendously.
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>>7395181
I'm trying my best
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>>7395169
That's not really a boob pocket. If a girl has relatively large tits, and wears a heavy(ish) bag or purse or something with a strap like that, the strap is going to sink between the tits and push the fabric between them.
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>>7395218
>>7395236
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should I write out a whole story first before drawing or just kinda make shit up as I go?
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>>7393259
If you need the space for art and not editing 4K video, you're better off getting a hard drive. SSD failure is merciless

>>7393376
Free tiers:
>End to end encryption, won't get banned for NSFW
Proton Drive: 5GB (7 day file versioning, up to 10 years on paid plans)
Filen: 10GB (bad file versioning adds to the storage limit)
MEGA: 20GB (IP 5GB/day download limit, can be bypassed with MEGABasterd + a proxy list. Keeps up to 100 file versions)
>paid: pCloud Crypto, CloudMounter, Tresorit

>No end to end encryption, can be encrypted with rclone/Cryptomator, encryptions will mess with file versioning if "encrypt file names" is on
Dropbox: 2GB (30 day file versioning outside business plans)
Microsoft: 5GB (keeps up to 25 file versions)
pCloud: 10GB (15 day file versioning, 30 days on paid plans)
Google Drive: 15GB (file versioning up to 100 versions or 30 days, whichever is lower)

Whether paid plans are worth it or not depends on what you want to store and how important it is to you. A 4TB hard drive costs around $75 in America, extra cloud backup is expensive
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I've had my ssd for 3 years but you guys are spooking me. If I lost everything, I don't know how I'd react. all my arts online anyways.
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>>7395339
A good rule is to have one copy of what you care about on another physical drive (not in your main PC/with any chances of ransomware getting to it) and another on cloud storage
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>>7394966
too much for normies - but you'd gain at least one more reader
heh heh
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>>7395339
I lost my first 2 months of carefully documented progress to a hard drive failure.
I reacted with denial and acceptance.
I still believe it could be recovered...
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>>7395218
I remember some people making fun of you couple threads back, but I don't think anyone is laughing at you now. Insane improvement in just a month.
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>>7395270
>>7395339
>>7395416
Don't hard drives have way more chances of failing than ssds?
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>>7395429
Only a bit higher
https://blocksandfiles.com/2023/03/10/backblaze-ssd-vs-hdd/
But there's one thing that stats from companies like Backblaze don't show: the chance of a sudden consumer SSD failure is a lot higher than the chance of a sudden consumer HDD failure. Sometimes the firmware just dies one day and you can reflash it and keep using the drive but lose all your data. Companies keep mixing and matching new chips and controllers without telling anyone (for cost/availability reasons), so maybe it's the lack of testing for those combinations that leads to sudden failures.
With HDDs, at least you normally know when you have to get everything off the drive before it dies
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Which one is better?
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>>7395766
Left.
Right looks like a spot light is on her.
But, left makes it look like the lantern is giving off light.
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>>7395780
left, but some of the darkness in the top right panel looks good
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>>7394899
That's how it should be though. You draw the storyboard, show to your editor, discuss it then revise as needed. They might not always need 6 hours to fix the storyboard, or they might need more depending on how much needs to change.

>>7395766
Right. I don't think your hatching is quite there yet, you gotta use more layers of hatching otherwise it just kinda looks like scribbling.
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>>7395766
Left spirit girl, right banshee full body, right banshee closeup.
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>>7395780
>>7395797
>>7395836
>>7395857
tried to mix both
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>>7395954
Good! I was too late to give my opinion, which was essentially >>7395857 this
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>>7395422
Thanks :D
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>>7395269
try both, do what works
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How long do you guys spend inking per panel or page?
I've been doing some practice pages and I'm getting my ass kicked by how long the lineart takes...
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>>7396098
I honestly dont know. I just keep working on it until I give up and call it done.
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>>7395269
I make shit up as I draw
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>>7395269
I have a lot more free time to write than to draw at work (office job)
I write out complete scripts before I ever get to thumbnail, I'm practically always ahead in terms of writing compared to drawing because the latter takes me way longer...
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there's nothing quite like drawing for hours and looking back on your hard work and realizing its all dogshit and you'll have to redraw it tomorrow.
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>>7393813
pages 16 and 17
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>>7396186
Should've drafted better.
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>>7396186
Drawing for hours... that's sound really good
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>>7396187
Is this b6 paper?
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>>7396206
B7
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>>7396098
Varies with the complexity of the page, but I think the average is around 4-5 hours for me. That includes storyboarding, clean sketch and final inking + tones.
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>>7396198
I learned my lesson....
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Anons, have you ever had that moment when you're scrolling through the pages you've made, getting hyped about your own story, but then you realize there are no more pages and you need to draw them?
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>>7393261
3 days and this is the most that advanced since then, shamefur dispurai

>>7394392
Ps. I tried to using tree leaf bruses, but i didn't like it
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>>7396616
I have, i really have reimu-chan(number 2)
The hardest part is getting hype with a scene that you haven't draw yet, so you wish to skip right to that part
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>>7396732
coloring is coming together well
But his shirt is so wrinkly
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>>7396800
Tbf, if there was a big monster flying around outside, I wouldn't be worried about ironing my shirt either.
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>mfw I worked on my Manga today
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in not Showa Bunch news, I finally completed this one shot for comiket
so much hatching
working on typesetting now
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>>7397047
Nice! Are you able to draw a cuck manga?
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>have PS that I've been using all this time
>PS gets updated from 2024 version to 2025 version
>finally give the 2025 version a try because it keeps nagging me whenever I boot up 2024
>it's all fucked - brushes don't work at all no matter what I do, who knows what else they fucking broke
>go back to comfy 2024 version

I swear to god after this chapter I'm gonna give CSP a serious try again since I have it already. Fuck Adobe and their RAM-hog of a shit program with pointless updates just breaking everything for no reason. You sure as hell were able to roll out a million different AI "tools" but you magically couldn't make the program itself run better.

>>7397047
Oh wow. Looking good man, looking real good. 'Mirin.
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I changed my canvas size. It's made it much easier to do small details, but if I stick with it, I think it's going to look too different from the pervious pages.

Any advice?
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>>7397108
How it looked before for comparison
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>>7397056
I mean I could
I don't want to
but I could

>>7397062
thanks
I wish I could stuck with toning, but I couldn't get it to feel right
this is the first page toned, like i wanted to do, and hatched, as I ended up doing, side by side
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>>7397113
Are you using a soft brush to tone? Why's it look all splotchy?
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>>7397116
I tone by painting with ink wash on paper
scan it, convert it to tones, overlay it on the lineart digitally
learned it from Takahashi Tsutomu on Manben
it wasn't going well here, pretty much the moment I started painting it was giving me trouble trying to see the page to know where to paint what, and the final product didn't feel like it had enough contrast between the layers of ink wash to be worthwhile putting up with the issues, so I scrapped the idea and hatched instead.
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>>7397126
Right, might be better to just do it with regular tones. Biggest issue here is all the values are muddied. You gotta learn to make it read more clearly with tones, not less.
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>>7397130
problem for me is I can't afford real tones
if I could I'd happily do them
but all my points were put into hatching until then
just chose bad paper to paint on this time
if you wanna talk about how that isn't much better here, that's fine, but I had to use what I could particularly for the time constraint I'm on for this one
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feet
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Why isn't there a single thing here that looks like manga? Even kids can do it in japan
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>>7393494
>>7393564
Sorry it took so long. I couldn't think of an outfit that fit the silhouette I wanted. She's an elven shepherd.
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>>7397251
Cool drawing! Thanks. I'll try to post her inside the game eventually, but it might take a while.
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>>7397243
>Why isn't there a single thing here that looks like manga? Even kids can do it in japan
Assuming you aren't a troll, you're going to have to define what the fuck "looks like manga" means to you. Secondly, despite the name the OP clearly states that styles of all kinds are allowed here.

>>7397251
Nice drawing.
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I fucking died drawing this
Thanks GOD i can move on to the next
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>>7397690
Looks good anon. There are pros and cons drawing at such a low res, and it appears you aren't making those mistakes. Look at your art now, vs a month ago and smile
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>>7397243
I don't know, anon. It's so weird.
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>>7397472
I mean, he's obviously trolling.

Not all of us follow the typical jap style, but these right here:
>>7397113
>>7397047
>>7396187
>>7393813
You'd have to be retarded to argue they don't look the part
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>>7397768
Thank you anon,
Can't stress enough that thanks to this thread, the comic wouldn't have even looked 1/4 as good as this
I smile back fondly after every page knowing amount of time and effort it took and how better it looks over og
Bad thing is that comic's not even halfway with the first 10 or so introductory pages so i better speed it up and at least get 3 if possible done before new year or Christmas
Thing about resolution is that mine's smaller due to ibispaint being a bitch and crashing often on larger files
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>find a mangaka streaming the creation of a chapter (or rather, the inking)
>the canvas is blurred
Man what’s the point
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>>7398206
Oh they mentioned next time they might draw without the mosaic, that'd be nice.
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>>7397152
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Time to draw.
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Last version of the cover, i forgot to do the shoe, now all i need is to learn how to do the effect that i want to do with the leaves, and i need to find a way to transform the logo into clouds too
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Completed my first page today.
Back to studies now
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>Had a dream of a really good one-shot story but in the end just think "Damn I wish I'd written that and not some other author"
>Wake up
>Wait, this my DREAM.
>pic
Feeling the motivation today.
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>>7399169
It's destiny.
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>>7398649
black feet. like the injuns
>>7399016
green feet
>>7399037
cat feet
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>>7399169
All my nightmares are good horror one shots.
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>>7399169
Hope you don't forget your dreams anon
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So I'm doing the screentones for my chapter and I have a question:

Do I upload them daily in groups of 3-5, or should I mass upload all 20+ at once?

I'm on tapas and webtoons and pixiv
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>>7399315
It's up to you. What kind of experience are you trying to provide to your readers? Reading a big chunk, or checking in frequently for little updates? Can you ensure those groups of 3-5 are substantial? What happens when you run out of pages, are they just going to have to wait again, or will the next batch be ready by then? etc.
Either works, just pick the game plan you want.
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>>7399016
New try, closer with that i want, i would love if someone would give input on the title placement


>>7399315
Also what kind of things can you upload on weebtoons? I'm tempted to post there too, but still
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>try to study a doujin artist I like
>none of their panels are in a normal perspective >they're all completely unique and insane poses that I won't learn anything from
now I realize just how big the gap is, that they're so good that its impossible to learn from them
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Character designs.

Let's play a game of spot the protagonist.
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>>7399492
>these aren't my glasses

>>7399504
Trick question. They're all the protagonist with Fufu as mastermind.
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>>7394527
I'm statue maxxing
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>>7399492
Your bitches are really hot
>>7399599
Cute hair
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>>7399504
I was gonna say the mechanic girl at first, since she doesn't even look like she's from the same time period.
But having this many girls in the lineup probably means it's a guy protag. So...the ginger?
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1st day of vacation. 2 hours of gooning. 3 hours of playing video games. 2 hours cleaning the kitchen and doing dishes. 0 hours making my manga (yet). lol. This ain't gonna end well
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didnt like the banshee in the same page so I will do a full page only with the ''jumpscare''
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>>7399930
Go do it now then.
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>>7399996
On it, anon.
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>>7400002
Coming up with ideas for spaceships and space structures is incredibly pretty fun. I think it was the right call to go with the sci-fi genre. Can't wait to start drawing futuristic guns and tanks!
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>>7399504
oh hi Rosenrot anon
How is the project coming along and what quarter of 2025 can I expect to see smt (if you're in a position to answer this question ofc)
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>>7399527
>>7399912
Left to Right
>Best friend of the MC
>Friend of the group
>Lead heroine and deuteragonist (also, last name is the title of the manga)
>Pervy mascot
>Childhood friend
>Imoutos
>Main character/Protagonist

Also, Alice's design is a little outdated here. She's had slight updates.
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>>7400248
Hey! Nice to know people haven't forgotten about me, in my absence. Lol
>How is the project coming along
Coming along really well now. We're on draft like 20 or so now, but over the many drafts we've discovered a lot about the setting, and more importantly, the protagonist and his motivations/wound/etc...

However, now that we've gotten that figured out, everything is starting to come into place really quickly now. From the character and intended themes, you get the plot, and from combining those two, you get the setting details such as society and magic system and so on.

Ultimately, we've settled on the core identity being that of "Doctors." So the idea is "Doctors fight Gothic Horror monsters using victorian era medical tools as weapons." Pic related. Editor wants an iconic and idealistic doctor that's akin to Gojo, Kakashi, All-Might, Levi, etc...


>and what quarter of 2025 can I expect to see smt
Hopefully soon. I guess what I can say is that last winter, the EiC at Magazine, who was the former lead editor for Attack on Titan, read the first draft, and loved the concept. He said "we'll review this as many times as it takes to get it ready for serialization." So I've basically been soft approved. It's not really a question of "if" but rather "when." Then he gave us lots of feedback to focus on. Then around summer 2024, my editor submitted it to a MagaPoke contest so the EiC of that, abd the editorial staff could look over it as well. People again liked the idea. And found the art style to be a perfect match for the setting. EiC said he believed we had what it took to make a great work. So I feel quite honored and motivated by their high expectations. So that's why we're being very meticulous at reviewing it and redoing it over and over and over again until it's perfect. Then we can hopefully make something many people will enjoy.

Will be submitting the latest draft around New Years, and from there we'll see.
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>>7400349
>>7399504
i dont like it
wouldn’t read
my comic idea is much cooler it’s about a bunch of fantasy chinese adventurers getting into martial arts fights on the tartarian steppe and slaughtering wypipo n shiet
>post it
can’t, it’s not manga
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>>7400364
Based nigger manga fantasy
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>>7400364
also there’s a black dude as a main character but instead of liberal nonsense african american jewish brainwashing garbage, he’s going to act like an actual intellectual nubian arabic scholar
>>7400366
>refresh after typing this post
>see this
HOW THE FUCK DID YOU KNOW?
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>>7400351
Is there a way I can contact you outside of 4chan? Just a burner email is fine. Trying to keep up with people actively trying to get published in japan is tough. Everybody's so shy.
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>>7400371
Shut the fuck up you jew. You will never contact me I don't want to have anything to do with your filthy jewish needs. Go worship latinum you damn Ferengi
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>>7400371
Hey remember waay back a long time ago when I said you were a Space Jew? That was really uncalled for, that was a rough moment in my life and It's been eating me up ever since. I hope things are still okay with us.
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>>7400371
Hey look, I know I just apologized and this is borderline emotional abuse, however; You are a Yiddish AIPAC agent that merely wants control over me, do not contact me.
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Please correct or add to my knowledge of manga technicals, I am a complete beginner in this
>600 DPI if printing, 300 for colored pronted pages
When would I need more than 600? Why is 350 rarely mentioned or any other DPI?
>The "safe" area is where everything important is drawn
>The edge of "trim" area is where it'll get cut off
>"Bleed" area is the allowance for cut offs
>Screentones
Is it better to have a variety or do I really ever need just one pattern? Should it look as fine as possible, as if it just looks gray?

Screentones are so damn hard to make look good, I don't know how you guys do it.
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>>7400406
>DPI
Common wisdom is that 600 DPI is plenty. My publisher has me send them the files at 1200 DPI, though they mentioned that 600 DPI is plenty just for the inks. They want it big for the tones.
>print margins
Yeah that's about right. Just know that they're guidelines and that each print shop has the exact trim cut off slightly differently. If you're only working with one publisher or one printer then just get the guides from them and you won't need to think about it at all beyond that. Or just make sure that anything you care about being clear and legible is in the safe area.
>screentones
Just use whatever looks good to you. Some pros just stick to the bog standard S-61 dot pattern (in CSP that 60 frequency 10% density, it's the most common tone sheet used in manga) while some go crazy with it. Keep in mind that the tones look very different before printing than they do after printing, so it's always gonna look kinda weird on your end if your only reference are the reproduced pages rather than the originals.

>Screentones are so damn hard to make look good, I don't know how you guys do it.
Years and years of fucking around with them. I eventually realized if the tones look bad it's because you fucked something up, turns out if you just export the pages at a reasonable resolution with the appropriate settings it'll just werk. If it doesn't just werk for you, tweak your export settings until it looks right. Press buttons, see what they do until the problem goes away.
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>>7400406
>Is it better to have a variety or do I really ever need just one pattern?
That depends on who you ask. Some here might say just do the screentone conversion in CSP and call it a day, don't stress it. Others like me like to use halftone/screentone brushes and apply it manually.
>Screentones are so damn hard to make look good
Less is more. It's tempting to go ham on them but you easily run the risk of making a muddled mess.
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>>7400406
>Why is 350 rarely mentioned or any other DPI?
Printer settings.
1200 is nice because of the margins it gives you, upscales and weird things you do will be unnoticeable when people view the <600 DPI output
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>>7399504
>>7400349
>>7400351
>actual hot male characters
I need you to make more than anyone in this godforsaken thread. I will keep you in my prayers friend.
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>>7400351
Does Kodansha grant you work Visa?
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>>7400550
Jesus bro, you should just get laid instead. It's much easier for fags, I can assure you that.
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>>7400351
What do you do to make a living while working for the publisher?
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>>7400563
the FPV shot her boobs look like a cups
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>>7400351
Do they seriously aim for serialization immediately on your first work?
I thought publishers tend to "test" amateurs by having them do one shot after one shot before giving them a chance for serialization.
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I drew a little comic: https://imgur.com/a/43oaNtZ
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>>7400371
Hmm, truth be told. Because I'm gonna use a Japanese pen name, I'd prefer to keep a low profile online. It's also why I don't really use social media to promote myself and make myself generally scarce on 4chan. Sorry.

>>7400550
Cheers, I appreciate it.

>>7400560
They can sponsor you just like any other employer, yes. The Visa you need for manga is the Humanities Visa, which is the easiest Visa to get, and the one I already have. So they wouldn't even need to grant it. I would just simply need to tell immigration that I changed sponsors. That's it. It's super simple.

>>7400575
I teach English to little kids at a private company.

>>7400609
They make you make X amount of one shots generally just to help you improve your overall manga skills to a professional level. Once you get there, they start pushing toward trying to pitch them something serialization-worthy. At least that's been my experience. We made around... 5? or so one shots. None of them won anything except the first one with Alice, which won honorable mention at one of their awards. Afterwards my editor suggested I enter a contest for Magapoke which was themed around the idea of "Romance" (as in the classical concept of Romance - adventure, etc...) and he felt my western sensibilities could bring something fresh to the table. So, I pitched what we called the "Gothic Fantasy" manga idea to him, saying "look, you can't get more Romantic than Victorian Gothic Horror" and generally proposed him the idea for the manga. It began with Alice, since I have a lot of faith in her potential for popularity and took it from there. If Alice is (at that time a witch) who uses blood magic to hunt monsters (beasts), then logically the protagonists should be her opposite, and should be a werewolf. And from there we came up with Rune. My editor liked the first draft of the first story so much, he asked me if it was ok to show it to his boss at the next editorial meeting. And the rest is history.
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>>7400676
>I'd prefer to keep a low profile online
Understandable, that's why I'm just looking for a way to contact you. Don't care if there's no way to tie it to you, just want to check in occasionally without having to wait for you to pop into the threads once a year.
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I'm making a little gay manga. Around 11 pages. Can I post it here?
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>>7400683
You don't need to ask for permission man, post away.
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>>7400683
>11 pages
We're already close to 300 posts at this point anyway, knock yourself out.
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I don't like establishing shots/scenery panels because I feel like I'm wasting the reader's time and need to get to the point because I'm already intruding on their life by having them even read it.
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>>7400786
Why think like that? Its a bigger waste of their time to confuse them and make them wonder where the fuck your story is even taking place.
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>>7400786
>I don't like establishing shots/scenery panels
The reader needs to know where they are. And depending on the pacing of the story, scenery panels can double as money shots with the beautiful detail put in. It makes the world alive. If you find the environs you are putting your characters in boring, then you need to think about why that is.
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>>7400793
This. If something is boring to draw, then it's probably boring to look at too.
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>>7400786
I took cross-hatching anons advice, and took the nature pill, trying a story that doesn't revolve around the big city.

It's fun drawing nature, and you can really do anything you want with it.
I'm going to start doing studies on Kinkade, since I've always found his kitsch nature shots comfy af.
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>>7400676
>keep a low profile online

is this necessary? is it bad if you try to make it with an stablished art account displaying your stuff or is that only a thing you should worry about once you've made it proper??
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>>7401069
(NTA) It shouldn't matter too much, but I think it's definitely for the best to lay low and stay quiet in terms of managing stress. People, both fans and haters, do actually go crazy about even the most minor e-celebs and it's not something any sane person would want to deal with when they already have something as stressful as a comic to make, plus all the internal bs that goes on with shitty higher-ups looking to cancel series to cut costs.

Even then, some platforms like Webtoons see a pre-built audience as almost mandatory, and it can help with showing that your idea(s) can be popular standing alone, so as long as you're not getting into fights with people or saying anything controversial it probably doesn't matter at the end of the day. But still you never know what seemingly irrelevant thing will set people off, especially nowadays.
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Do you guys like the way your pages look? There's always something I don't like in my pages.
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>>7400676
Alice-anon, you're one of my biggest inspos

I've been learning Japanese for the past 18 months now, trying to follow in your footsteps

thank you for coming back to us plebians
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>>7400616
Cute MC, and easy on the eyes art style.

I didn't know how to read the first couple panels, but then I realized it doesn't really matter what order you read them in.
Also, I would replace "occasion" with "opportunity"
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>>7400786
you should chill out and read ykk
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>>7401165
or maybe a little adachi
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>>7401105
I don't think I've ever drawn a page that didn't have something that bothered me, and I've drawn over a thousand pages.

>>7401069
Fly too close to the sun and people might try to find ways to fuck with you, especially if you're taking the time to engage with any kind of community. That guy was talking about working with an editor at Jump on /a/ at one point so I can imagine a few trolls latching on. Just look at this thread, right after he showed up again a blatant troll appeared. Limiting ways such people can fuck with you is a wise move the closer to success you get.
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>>7401186
>Limiting ways such people can fuck with you is a wise move the closer to success you get.
sounds schizo. just don't feed the trolls, idiot.
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>>7401105
Yes. Plus it's better to keep moving forward than stressing about errors that may or may not be there.
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creepy
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>>7393212
Krita's autosave is flawless, just sayin'
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>>7391920
>Full MANBEN Series link
The playlist is kill. All videos are gone.
naokiurasawa.com is kill.
The Japs don't want gaijin to learn the art of mangas.
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>>7401699
damn, thanks for the bad news anon
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>>7401699
well on the bright side he uploaded a new youtube video after almost a year
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>>7401699
DailyMotion.
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>>7401790
A quick search tells me that a lot of the Manben videos are deleted over there too.
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>>7401699
I literally just started to watch Akiko Higashimura episode lol because I love picrel. Fml.
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I tried to make yet another proper comic strip. how's this?
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>>7401105
If it's not a critical error, just leave it be. Forget about it for a year or two. Then you can reread your stuff and fix up the stuff that takes the least effort, typos or lazy eyes, bits of forgotten screentone.
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>>7401992
I removed the jam she had on her clothes and face. it made her look like she was hurt
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>>7402326
New character I see
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>>7402332
I've drawn her before >>7381584
I rarely draw her, because many say she looks like the main girl too much
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>>7401069
Many successful artists are only known as artists
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>>7402345
Make her hair covering both of her eyes.
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>>7397472
NTA but it's not hard to discern western art from eastern art. (nobody believe that bullshit in the OP btw.)
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>>7402431
So what.
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>>7402431
>NTA but it's not hard to discern western art from eastern art.
You're genuinely delusional if you believe this. You sound like you're just being a grifter.
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>>7402630
You people need to stop misusing words.
It's like every week you pick a new one at random to start meaning "person I don't like"
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>>7402644
Ok. Then I'll just call it what it is. Petty demoralizing crab with no grip on reality? Is that fine with you?
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>>7402650
Talk about fragile. It IS easy to discern. Telling people to push themselves to the limit and try to imitate MANGA when they want to create MANGA isn't being a crab.
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>>7402669
What do you mean "telling people to push themselves to imitate manga"? That's not what you're doing here. You're not providing any form of constructive criticism. You're just going "hurr not real manga" and then backpedaling pretending you're doing this in good will to motivate people when called out.

You're also pretending that the top tier artists on pixiv and twitter from Asoa are representative of the skills and style of the populous as whole. Shut the fuck up dude.
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>>7402669
It's you against the world, champ. Go make your manga and prove everyone wrong.
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>>7402684
>>7402686
You're retarded lol. Anyone can tell you omniman is from the west and one punch man is from the east with one glance. And no it's not just "art style" anyone can tell you panty & stocking or pop team epic is Japanese despite their unique artstyle. There's a standard of quality and design philosophy Japanese artists have. You're denying culture exists, you're denying technique exists because you're fed up with people saying your 'manga' looks like westoid garbage. Kindly tongue my anus, retard.
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Is doing studies the best way to improve comic skills? I mainly do studies, but im worried itll just make me better at copying other artists, instead of making original work
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>>7402697
>but im worried itll just make me better at copying other artists, instead of making original work
Feel free to share your "study"/copy.
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Heres some art I made of my comic to add onto to my last comment. Any critiques are valuable
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>>7402702
sure
>>7402697 is one of my studies, that annoyingly rotated, and >>7402704 is some original work which you can definitely see the quaility drop in. and heres another study below cause why not.
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>>7402697
Making comics is the best way to improve comic skills.
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>>7402669
Arguing on 4chan hardly seems like pushing yourself to the limit. Get lost and go draw cause I know your ass isn't going to post any art, lol.
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>>7402709
How can I use manga making to help me improve in other areas? Like comissioning, making art for social media etc.
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>>7402928
Both I and the post I was replying to said comic skills, not marketing or business skills.
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>>7398033
pages 20 and 21
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Do any of you bastards know what this tone is
It looks so good but I can't find it anywhere
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>>7403322
look into kakeami maybe
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>>7403325
Didn't find that specific one but it helps, thank you for teaching me a new term anon.
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>>7402928
>>7402940
manga making is more like a separate skill set, people are usually looking for pretty colors and art that is nice to look at when it comes to commissions, as for social media I guess following trends would be your best bet
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>>7403512
>>7402928
Don't just "follow trends", you need to corner a niche that corresponds to the kind of thing you offer. That means don't make a bunch of shounen fan art if you draw horror manga, even if it's the most popular thing at the moment, because you want to capture an audience that is into horror rather than shounen.
If your objective is to grow a follower base then you actually should heavily center around 1-3 select subjects and only occasionally dip into trends, franchises, etc.

Know your audience. Took me way too long to figure out, but it makes everything so much easier.
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>>7402925
Looks good
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>>7402669
Hi, Howard!
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>>7403512
>>7403537

I mean how could I learn/practice things in my manga that could be useful for other areas in the future? For example, I intend to make lineless artwork for the cover of my manga (just like picrel) not only because it looks cool as fuck, but also because I want to learn how to paint like that for future comissions. I'm talking about ways to improve my skill level and learn new techniques as I write my manga
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>>7403550
Thanks, anon. Though that last panel doesn't look half as good as I expected it to heh. I might work more on it
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>>7403610
>lineless artwork for the cover of my manga (just like picrel)
Anon that pic is not lineless.
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>>7403614
Uuuhhh yeah but... The lines are barely noticeable. This one is a beter example
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>>7403610
>>7403617
well, you study and use references while you are drawing your manga, if you want to learn how to paint then you paint, drawing black and white manga by itself won't teach you how to color
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>>7403322
IC's S-619 is very similar. It's on CSP's asset store though not for free.
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>>7403617
Practice pain-ting over a clasical pain-ting
That's what i did and i got a way better understanding of how to paint
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>>7403803
post it
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>>7403924
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>>7400351
I just noticed, but is Victor a nod at Black Jack?
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>>7403912
Dont you mean "pain-t" ?
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>>7403325
Is there a good catalog/list + tutorial of non-screentone techniques like this? Unfortunately screentone isn't available in my country.
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>>7403912
What's up with the "paint-ting"
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>>7402422
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Does this belong here?
I'm having a tremendous amount of trouble thinking of a name for an alien character
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>>7404463
What's the character?
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>>7404490
she's an amphibian lizard girl
I was thinking about using the scientific name of an aquatic reptile as inspiration but salamanders newts and axolotls don't really have nice scientific names to draw from.
then I was thinking maybe using the name of river goddesses from different regions but nothing sounded very alien.
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>>7404501
I'd go super simple, 2 or 3 letters max for a name that's phonetically pleasant sounding and super easy to pronounce. Iio, Na, Iru, Lo, etc.
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>>7404521
>>7404501
Do both. If she's an alien, go super latin/scientific name, then have her just go by something 1 syllable name for short.

>Hi, I'm Anthrolithic, Hylopotonus.
>But you can call me Lil
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>>7404501
Call her Hydra
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>>7404047
Because it hurts
>>7403998
Actually i thing it would be pain-ts

>>7404501
>>7404644
Actually something like liz sound simple and good enough
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We've reached page 9 boys and girls , new thread can be found at:

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