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>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.

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>>7392316
do not trust youtube shills

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>>7392316
do not trust aaron rutten, confirmed wacom shill

Reminder to do the needful and use Krita only!

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>>7392317
only use tablets confirms itt to be good, like this huion 22 plus

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xppens are acceptable as well

>>7392372
I like how you keep going back to threads from 2019 when your brain suffered irreparable damage to copy paste posts and use a format that literally no one has used since then. you're even too lazy to change pricing and model names.

I’d rather got gud at painting on glass than ruin the screen with a protector.
I hear the nanotexture glass is nice on the new iPad Pro but the cost is astronomical. The pencil against regular screen fees fine to me.

Will Huion/XP go 120Hz or is it truly pointless for art?

>>7392392
>or is it truly pointless for art?
yes. refresh rate is virtually worthless for art.
that said xppen already has 165hz displays. good if you want to use a single monitor and also play games I guess.
the nanoglass new ipads have isn't like etched glass you'll find on drawing tablets, it doesn't give you much more texture than the normal glass screen. the priority was just glare reduction, not making a nice surface to draw on, because apple doesn't give a shit about artists.

>>7392343
kill yourself chink shill

>>7392400
>yes. refresh rate is virtually worthless for art.
So I’ve been gaslit by reddit again

>>7392418
>reddit
You have to go back.

>>7392316
Ignore OP he's a retard
Posting real thead header:
This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware

Recommended tablets:
>Pen tablets (non display)
Wacom Intuos pro
Huion Inspiroy
Xencelab Pen Tablet
XP Pen Deco 01 v2 / Pro

>Display tablets
Wacom Cintiq pro
Huion Kamvas plus/pro
XP-Pen Artist series
Xencelab Pen display

>Mobile tablets
Xppen magic drawing pad (best drawing experience)
Apple iPad Pro (3rd gen for new pen/reduced bezel, 6th gen for hover)
Samsung Galaxy Tab
Surface Pro 8/9
Kamvas studio 16

>What tablets does /dtg/ use?
https://strawpoll.com/polls/NoZrLOmrDn3

>General guidelines when picking a tablet:
- All of the recommended models are part of large lines with multiple sizes/generations available. Buy the biggest/newest in your budget. Medium-Large pen tablets or 16-24" display tablets are considered the sweet spot by most artists.
-Tape paper over your pen tablet if you want a more traditional drawing feel

>Recommended Software:
Clip Studio Paint
Photoshop
Procreate
Infinite Painter
Rebelle
Krita or hipaint if you're poor
>Display Calibration tools:
https://www.eizo.be/monitor-test/
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles

[YouTube] Can You Calibrate a Monitor WITHOUT a Colorimeter? (embed) [Embed]
(Use this guide to roughly calibrate your display if you don't want to invest hundreds into a colorimeter you'll only use a few times)

>>7392418
>by reddit
are you really surprised?
none of this shit matters. tech bros are primarily just people that are turbo shit at their hobby and cope that it's due to the hardware they're using rather than their own inability.
>bro I NEED a 360hz monitor, I'm not competitive in this game without it!
meanwhile korean pros got there with a crt monitor from 2008 and the $5 keyboard and mouse that come free with prebuilts.
>I NEED a 27" 4k 100 billion color display with 80000 pressure levels and sapphire diamond nano particles embedded in the glass, my art is fucking shit because I don't have the $50000 tablet!
meanwhile professional illustrators made masterpieces 20 years ago with the worst garbage on the market.
Any display made today at ~$400+ is more than enough to go pro.
Any pen display made today at ~$50+ is more than enough to go pro.
basically
>just draw

>>7392340
Is that supposed to be a joke? 99.9% of people will only draw and deliver in the sRGB color space with 8 bit depth and no HDR. Colors will look like shit if you don't limit your P3 monitor to sRGB too

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>>7392434
>Is that supposed to be a joke?
Yes. Forgive my silliness.

>>7392316
this is my tablet :D

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>>7392425
>tech bros are primarily just people that are turbo shit at their hobby and cope that it's due to the hardware they're using rather than their own inability.

>>7392440
>red band: +2 to gesture -3 to perspective
>black band: +3 to stamina
>off hand empty: freedom (+5 to agility)
>black beanie: +10 to accuracy
>pink hoodie: turbulence (-10 to aesthetics +10 to uniqueness)
>glasses: -5 to lines +5 to composition

>>7392418
It's not useful for anything creative due to lack of support (60fps is as high as internet video gets), but the smoothness is a bit nice when you're drawing and everywhere else, sounds like a meme but when phones got 120Hz everyone noticed how smooth scrolling looked.

I got a precalibrated display tablet, is it worth to fiddle around with my main monitor to make it match the tablet as closely as possible? The default sRGB setting on the monitor seems to be incorrect.

>>7392444
okay but internet videos and doomscrolling have nothing to do with drawing.
you might notice a slight difference drawing with a higher refresh rate, but it will have literally zero impact on your work. this isn't a video game where milliseconds of response time can matter.

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>>7392450
>this isn't a video game
What if my life itself is like a video game.

>>7392451
then you should reroll your character and distribute your stats better

>60hz
The human eye can't even see past 24 FPS anyway.

>>7392447
>Is trying to make my monitor better worth it?
The answer is always yes. And even though there are differences from panel to panel, you should check if there are any sites with ICC profiles for your monitor >>7392424

>>7392455
but you have two eyes, thats 48 fps's

>>7392425
Thanks, good post. I would have to imagine though that having accurate color reproduction and contrast would be of tangible benefit to creative work even if it’s not make or break

i hate niggers i think

>>7392417
What a good argument. This will convince everyone that he is trustworthy! 10 yuan have been deposited into your account and your social credit score is increased by 1. Xiaohongshu!

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>>7392456
I got something half-decent but I had to almost max out the blue and red gain sliders. Seems autistic, no? The guy in the OP video said not to move them too much.
>default was 50
>R 75
>G 15
>B 88

>>7392466
"I think" like what, you considering getting a black bf or something?

>>7392461
there are niceties, color accuracy is a big one, drawing feel is another. but most of that is all roughly the same on modern tablets.

>>7392508
>>R 75
>>G 15
>>B 88
Sounds like your monitor is pure ass if you had to pick values that extreme to get accurate colors. What model? Nothing from the last few years outside a few of the worst chinesium brands should be that uncalibrated.

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>>7392317
>Wacom

>>7392146
5000 width isn't much more than what I use at 100% on a 4K display. If I had a 4.5K/5K Mac-style monitor I would use that

>>7392734
I bought it about two years ago when I didn't know anything about monitors, I just needed 4K and a high refresh rate - https://www.acer.com/us-en/monitors/gaming/nitro-xv2/pdp/UM.HX2AA.305
Maybe it's more designed for gaming but I don't know, I have the default ICC profile from the manufacturer installed.

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I think I should buy a new tablet...

>>7392316
>>7392357
>"what Huion and XP Pen do"
>check which tablets they're talking about
>Gaomon, Parblo, Alfawise
>videos from 2018-2019, everyone other than the guy who quit reviews 100% uploaded XP Pen/Huion reviews after that

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This is going to sound like a retarded question but the grey nib that came with the pen was just a placeholder right? It felt like sandpaper or something so I guess it is but still, it is my first tablet

>>7393197
aaron rutten is textbook projection
>don't trust shills!!!
he says while literally being the definition of a shill but for a different brand.

>>7393237
that's a felt nib
most people prefer them because they offer a little extra texture. downside is they don't last as long.

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Are these worth buying? Pretty sure the nibs are just some plastic tube thing

>>7393282
I see. Then I'll save it until I get used to the tablet (I guess people were not lying about it feeling weird at the start)
Thank you

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>>7393170
It got worse...

>>7393416
idk man, the official ones are like $10/50 that will last you like a decade.

>>7393451
It's $15 for a 5 pack in my country

All tablets over $150 are bad for osu because they have hardware smoothing and/or hover glitching out the ass
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DYVfiSpQqdpa4sWWYUALPmliOIuGyKog7B7LJJdmlhE/edit
Companies stray from accurate input registering the more you pay. Hardware isn't quite there it seems

>>7393476
okay? this is /ic/

love me wacom

>>7393476
There is really no need to research and develop new ultra accurate sensors when you can fake it and a total of 0 artists out of millions will notice.

>>7393505
zero osu players would notice either. the game really isn't that precise.

>>7393515
They notice the skipping cursor and they will notice the smoothing when they're at a level (not that high) where the tablet sees all that movement as one stupidly long stroke

>>7393523
>where the tablet sees all that movement as one stupidly long stroke
what the hell are you talking about?

>>7393532
anon, do you know what osu is?

>>7393543
yes and people have used tablets for it for over a decade. you're mentioning problems that just don't exist.

>>7393546
the tablets people have used for all that time (like the CTH-480) don't have hardware smoothing, of course they didn't have a problem with it

Tried the Intuos and Photoshop instead of my usual Ipad 10 and Procreate. It's not as comfy to draw on but I feel like it has way more potential, it just can do so much more.

people who use ipads how does the lack of reliable palm rejection not drive you insane? it works most of the time, but not always. i wish there was a way to turn off touch completely so that only the apple pencil can interact with it

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>>7393592
i guess i should buy on of these.. still i would prefer a simple setting than having to carry around an item of clothing any time i want to sketch

>>7393476
>hardware smoothing
Is smoothing in Clip Studio worthless then? I started learning on a pen tablet and had it at 0, I wonder if I should mess around with it after getting a display tablet.

>>7393553
Hm. A picture I did today on the Wacom looks like a noticeably worse version of a similar picture with the same reference, but I also spent twenty minutes on the one I did today versus six hours on the one i did three weeks ago.

>>7393745
If you look closely at that spreadsheet, most mid-range+ Wacom (not XP-Pen's latest, and Huion are missing) tablets disable the smoothing as soon as you stop hovering. It's a problem in osu since most people hover to make movement easier and avoid wearing their tablets and nibs down, but if you're drawing normally there's little to no smoothing or skipping. That spreadsheet says it too.
Osu players want pure accuracy and nothing else. They're affected by hardware issues that don't affect artists or digital note takers, the only targets that drawing tablet companies ever mention.
One exception, though. The Wacom One Gen 2 (2023) tablets are bad all around >>7392770
I don't think people have the same testing on pen displays, just videos like this >>7392318 for old defective models. In theory, they should try to have the best hovering and tilt because of how jarring it is for the display to not match where you're pressing

why are wacom stands so expensive lol

>>7393931
They used to be built into the tablet like the OP image. Simply greed.

>>7393931
Because wacom is one of the geediest tech companies there is

theyre allowed to be greedy, they have no competition

>>7394002
what's it like living in 2010 still?

>>7394047
name one brand with wacom-level sensors

>>7394051
huion, xppen, xencelab

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>xppen

pcb inside of wacom grip pen (comes with intuos pro) started moving and it's super annoying when you start to apply any force on the tablet surface
what do?

start by not lying about Wacom™ products

>>7394515
Wacom cured my cancer, and the ceo personally delivered my tablet to my door, set it up for me, and gave me a blowjob.

Hi, sorry I recently bought a Wacom one and it has a USB Type-C input
My laptop doesn't have that input so I decided to buy a USB adapter.
However, when I connect it, it doesn't detect that it has one.
Is there anything I can do or is it best to return the tablet?
I haven't tried it on my cell phone yet

>>7394525
USB A doesn't support video. Does your laptop have any other kind of video in like hdmi? You might be better off to return the one and buy a standalone tablet like a 2nd hand ipad pro (you should be able to find a 3rd gen/2018 model for ~250-300) or galaxy tab s6 lite.

what's the current gen tablets that are medium to large size, also are any of the screen tablets under 500$ relatively good?

leaning wacom just because its going to a less tech literate person, but I dont know how well the software on the chinese ones has gotten over the years, I know mine were near flawless but I can also troubleshoot hardware driver issues on a 98 machine, the person getting it would struggle.

person is just a hobby artist, not making a job out of it.

>>7395214
I haven't had any driver issues with huion in the 3 years I've had one.
I don't think any modern drawing tab is complicated, a lot of art people are technologically retarded and wouldn't be able to use them if they were.

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>>7393777
Hmph. Even my simple little shitposts look worse when I use the Wacom over the Ipad, but I really like all the tools photoshop offers over procreate. Is it unheard of to draw most of the piece on a tablet and use the Wacom to touch it up? Or should I just keep on drawing with the Wacom until I am as proficient with it as the Ipad?

>>7395249
this is why I don't use pen tablets. displays are infinitely superior

Turn out my toaster can run photoshop after all. I was afraid for years about the whole RAM issue but I stress tested it for the hell of it and it still took everything like a champion. The memory just spikes back up after maybe going over the history limit. I also needed to switch the cache folder to one drive and disable my F drive and change the scratch disk of course.

>>7395249
You need extra eye-hand coordination on pen tablets, any shape will be harder to get right than on paper/pen displays unless you've been using them for a while.
People use pen tablets because they're cheap or because they have better ergonomics (you don't have to choose between straining your neck/back or your hand/arm), not because they're easier to use

>>7395286
I'll never understand the noodle arms you guys must have to "strain your arm" by just lifting it to draw.

>>7395294
It's the same thing with your back. You're not meant to hold those positions for long. With enough time, you'll notice how it fucks you up

>>7392316
If you want to try out digital art for the first time would you anons recommend a screenless tablet or one with screen

>>7395304
I've been drawing every day for 3+ hours for years. I'm currently 30 years old. I think you're just too stupid to take care of your body.

>>7395320
>3+ hours for years
>I'm currently 30 years old
oh no no no no

>>7395319
As another Anon said, displays are better for performance and screenless tablets are better for ergonomics and your budget

>>7395319
I almost gave up digital after using a screenless tablet. It's an awful experience

>>7395220

I dont think they are hard either, but I how huion use to have an issue where if you plugged the tablet in before drivers were installed unless you know how to do win98 style debugging it was a not going to work, that still an issue or was that something that stopped being a problem in the 7 years since I had a screenless tablet?

>>7395558
when I got my kamvas 22 plus I plugged it in, went to their website, downloaded drivers, and it just werks.

i've owned a cintiq pro for half a year now and can safely say you are better off getting whatever kamvas is at the budget of what your were going to waste on wacom

>>7395651
Ok Chang-Quixang

>>7395703
It's Chang Chow you dumb racist

>>7394923
Oh, sorry, it's an Intuos tablet, meaning it doesn't have a screen. I don't know if that affects anything.

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>>7392316
It was my birthday a few days ago
My friends got me a new wacom tablet
So they got me a CTL-672 for 87€ I think they got scammed
should I return it? what should I get?
(my friends wont mind, they actually kind of expected they got scammed)

Is XP-Deco 01v2 still the best pentab under 100 bucks?

>>7396348
I forget what huion's is called but it's pretty comparable. but yeah

>>7396348
>>7396412
Desperate little chinese shill.

>>7396341
The same tablet, except for a better price.

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>>7396423
>The same tablet, except for a better price.
Is there a newer version with USB-C at least?

Thinking of getting a portable display tablet, but I can’t decide what to go for. Should I become an applecuck and get an overpriced iPad to use Procreate since it has the most online resources? Or should I go for something cheaper like the Galaxy Tab S9, which also seems solid? My budget is preferably under $600, but I can stretch a bit if needed. I’m okay with second-hand or refurbished. I’d prefer an iPad if there’s one within my budget(except for ipad mini due to the screen size). PS I know the software isn’t a huge deal, and getting Procreate won’t magically make me better, a lot of this is fomo since I’ve never owned an Apple product and am mostly a foss user but want to give the product a try without having to sell my left kidney.

>>7396476
>My budget is preferably under $600
magic drawing pad + clip studio paint (or infinite paint if you don't want to spend $12/year) + their pro pen (from aliexpress because it's like $10 cheaper) + a dokiwear glove
I've used ipads, galaxy tabs, kamvas studio, huion slate 10, surface pro 3 and a friend's 8 briefly, mdp is the onle one that's actually purpose built for drawing.

>>7396634
>magic drawing pad
not buying your shitty tablet.

>>7396636
you don't draw, you're not buying any tablet.

>>7396634
actual op anon here, thanks for the suggestion anon, it fits perfectly into what i was looking for ignore the other guy

>>7395319
if you start your workflow with non digital and use digital to ink or color, screenless is just fine, but I could never get over the hurdle of base drawing screenless, I drew too much traditionally to completely force myself to learn, if I would have ever been able and not just fully quit.

XP-Pen Deco Fun L or Star 03 V2?

>>7396412
Thanks, probably going with Deco
Also does anyone have filter for wacom schizo?

>>7397074
Filtering chang or shillbot or even just Chinese will hide like 90% of his posts.

>>7392316
on one side H1161 has a USB-C port
on the other side CTL-4100WLE-S, it's a wacom.
there is also a few XP pen tablets
What should I get
prices are fucked here for some reason but assume both are sold for the same price

>>7397187
Never get any small sized pen tablet ever. The huion or an xppen deco 01v2.

>>7392371
The ruler test needs to be done diagonally because the digitizer matrix is orthogonal with the screen. Every tablet can produce a straight line when it's drawn along one axis, such that all the samples have the same position on one axis. You wouldn't notice the rippling from the outcome because the sampled point can lag and skip along the other axis without leaving any evidence.

>>7393416
You can use nylon wire or spaghetti (uncooked). Wacom's nibs have been garbage for ten years now so if you really want to have real brand name wacom nibs try to find some that are made of the white plastic. Earlier black plastic nibs are also long-lasting but you can't tell them apart visually. In any other case you can expect garbage that you will be going through fast.

>>7395320
/ic/ doesn't have any of these but there are twenty year olds who have been drawing for eight hours a day for a decade. Ergonomics is, in the first place, the reason why you would buy a tablet rather than using a mouse, so don't scoff at it.

>>7397187
The Wacom is like a CTL-472 with buttons and Bluetooth. No tilt, very basic
Wacom charges a premium for those features so if you really need those you're better off not going Wacom

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I'm considering buying this display tablet, Huion Kamvas 22. The specs all look good to me but the plus version is an extra $150. Anons itt are saying to get the plus, is it really worth the extra money for "quantom dots technology", more contrast ratio and 140% sRGB Color Gamut over the non-plus' 120%? I'm honestly really struggling to understand whether the difference is profound enough to warrant the price difference. Some help with what the difference would imply and whether or not it would be worth it would be really appreciated. I'm just wanting to use the tablet to connect to my PC and do digital paintings and animations in CSP.

>>7397274
It's unlikely that you will need more than 100% sRGB. Going from 1:1000 to 1:1200 is a pretty minor change that most people won't notice, nothing like 1:3000 (VA panel, but they have other issues, especially if they're not from Samsung) or infinite (OLED, pixels turn off), biggest change is the full laminated display and etched glass surface

>>7397295
Thanks for the info, I'll actually go for the plus version for the better surface and all the other little extras. Much appreciated anon, now I'm gonna make it for sure B)

>>7397274
The 22 plus is a huge upgrade over the normal 22. In addition to stuff you mentioned, one if the bigger differences is screen protector that wears down vs etched glass that's pretty much good indefinitely

Whenever the pen nib from my old huion got sharp I grinded it to a round shape again with a knife sharpening stone, to avoid scratches and replacing the pen too ofton. Now that I bought a wacom intuos pro large, the pen can get really sharp and it wont scratch, no matter what. They do get used up quite fast though.

Is there a site that measures tablet latency? I'm using an ancient tablet and I think it's accurate but the lag is just disorienting, I want to buy a tablet that's *measured* to have low latency

>>7397274
Does it have Pentech 4.0? If not wait next refresh.
PW600 pens are much better than anything that came before.

>>7398575
4.0 only is only supported on like 4 tablets. Why wait months to get a tablet and start drawing?

>>7398644
Because the gap in performance is just that big. I chatted with a guy who switched from old Kamvas 13 to the new one, and he was saying it was a big improvement.
Instead of a pen display he could go with a Frego model for the time being.

Sevenpens does a good job reviewing tablets objectively so I would suggest to take a look and compare his notes to see pros/cons before making a buy.

>>7398804
At $100 there's the Huion Frego Medium and XPPen Deco LW (no bluetooth: $20 less), which one is a better deal?

Is an unused Wacom Intuos Pro (medium) worth getting for $160?

How come the youtube reviewniggers suck at drawing so often?

>>7398915
they make money from editing videos which is not drawing

If you use an android tablet/ipad don't use tablet cases with magnetic attachments
These magnets can completely mess up the pen detection, I thought my tablet was broken until I've done some testing with and without the case
Now I look for a good tablet case with a front cover and no magnets

I have a bit of a niche question. Does anyone in this thread draw with an iPad Air? I'm curious if they've caught up with the Pro models yet for drawing in Procreate?

>>7399035
I have a case with magnets and its fine. Just dont fold it like a freak where the magnets on the edge are under your screen. Its a temporary interference anyways. The only permanent damage you can get like that is from strong rare earth magnets.

>>7399206
even an old m1 pro will BTFO any air lmao

is there hope in trying to fix an intuos usb port? I got a replacement tablet already but it would be nice to save the other one at least as a hand me down or a backup in case something unexpected happens.

Screenless tablets with discounted/no holiday discount new US prices so someone else can make a better guide/post with this info, it really needs more data
>Small (~6" width)
[$26/32] Huion H640P (6.0" x 4.0") - no tilt
[$32/40] XPPen Deco mini7 (7.0" x 4.3") - high IAF (30gf)
[$35/40] Wacom One Small/CTL-472 (6.0" x 3.7") - no tilt, no buttons, plastic stylus, lowest input lag
[$48/56] XPPen Deco mini7W (7.0" x 4.3") - mini7 with Bluetooth
[$50/80] Wacom Intuos Small Bluetooth (6.0" x 3.7") - no tilt, has Bluetooth
>Medium (~8" width)
[$40/50] Huion H950P (8.7" x 5.4")
[$43/50] XPPen Deco M (8.0" x 5.0")
[$50/60] Wacom One Medium/CTL-672 (8.5" x 5.3") - no tilt, no buttons, plastic stylus, lowest input lag
[$60/70] XPPen Deco MW (8.0" x 5.0") - M with Bluetooth
[$100/115] Wacom Intuos Medium (8.5" x 5.3") - no tilt, has Bluetooth
>Large (~10" width)
[$43/60] XPPen Deco 01 V2 (10.0" x 6.2") - high IAF (30gf)
[$60/80] Huion HS611 (10.1" x 6.3") - noticeable wobble [1]
[$70] XPPen Deco L (10.0" x 6.0")
[$80/90] XPPen Deco LW (10.0" x 6.0") - L with Bluetooth
[$100] Huion Frego M (10.0" x 6.2") - has Bluetooth, no buttons, practically no wobble [2]

The Huion H1060P costs the same as the Deco 01 V2 and it's technically better but it has QC issues with air bubbles under the top surface
Wobble and pointer lag data isn't available for most tablets
"Pro" models outside the list will have features like trackpads, wheels, touch support, pens with erasers, different/replaceable surface textures, higher maximum pen pressure, even bigger active areas

[1] https://docs.thesevenpens.com/drawtab/product-info/huion/huion-inspiroy/7p-notes-huion-hs611
[2] https://docs.thesevenpens.com/drawtab/product-info/huion/huion-inspiroy-frego/7p-notes-huion-inspiroy-frego-m-l610

>>7400781
>>Small
Worthless category

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>>7392424
>if you don't want to invest hundreds into a colorimeter
I don't want to buy it looks like I'll have to. I get distracted by the difference in my monitors. Any good ones that I could get off of Chinese sites? I only know about the Spyder X.

>>7400789
Someone said you can rent them from photography or print shops
Your monitors will also still be different even if you get one.

>>7400801
I don't have any near me that advertise the service and I'm too NEET to haggle them for it.
Really? It's impossible to get them to be close to indistinguishable?

>>7400781
Cheapest large tablets: Ugee M808/M908, $29/31 in Walmart
(Ugee and XPPen are both brands from Hanvon Ugee Group)
One M808 review
>The sensitivity at the lower pressure levels seems, a bit inconstant, and hovering over the pad sometimes doesn't register unless I'm right on it. Which has caused me a few errors. But it's manageable.
M908 video review showing odd pressure sensitivity
https://youtu.be/aBp2Rk2vsoM?t=466
No info on IAF (though it's likely 30g) or lag. Tilt and 16k pressure levels like on the XPPen Deco 01 V3. Pen looks like it's just plastic.

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>Get galaxy tab s6
>Grab the best drawing program
>Begin drawing
>Lines look jittery/jagged as fuck
What the fuck... how do those digital artists make it look so easy...

>>7400871
Stabilization. I use 40-50 on almost every brush in CSP

>>7400785
I agree. Small tablets aren't useful for drawing, only useful for games like osu, and if you play osu the CTL-472 is cheap and good while everything else (including the best Wacoms sold new) is bad >>7393476

>>7400781
Maybe we could add answers to questions like "What protectors can I use if I want a screenless tablet to feel like X, Y or Z and/or not end up like >>7393442?"

>>7399206
>>7399253
The current iPad Air has an M2 processor, Pencil hover, laminated glass, a 12.9" screen option, 8GB RAM, and supports the Apple Pencil Pro.

These qualities suggest that the Air has now caught up to the Pro, while costing just over half as much as the M4 Pro. In that sense, yes it has caught up.

In terms of what it lacks compared to the Pro:
>ProMotion
it's 60Hz instead of 120Hz. From what I've read, this might not make any meaningful difference at all for painting in Procreate

>OLED
Air gets an LCD screen, which has inferior brightness and black levels to the Pro OLED screen (and also compared to the miniLED screen of the previous Pro).
As I understand, the LCD screen of the Air still has good colour accuracy and brightness.
Additionally, could it be that OLED still has a risk of burn-in with things like the Procreate UI? Could the Air actually have a better lifespan as an art tool?

>Other
Supposedly the Pro M4 has better battery life, presumably due to the oled tech and the fact that the M4 never comes close to breaking a sweat, which presumably also means less heat. Can anyone comment on M2 thermals?

With the Pro M4 being thinner and lighter, that might make it less cumbersome to use in the hands

Other bells and whistles of the Pro include FaceID (instead of the Air's TouchID) and better speakers

>>7401354
That's a long post talking about nothing art related

>>7401359
admittedly i made my point at the beginning then went a bit overboard sorry.
The worthwhile art related features of an ipad imo are
>laminated glass for minimal parallax
>larger screen giving more space for drawing and reference images
>cursor hover for that familiar cintiq experience

Another potential advantage of the Pro is if you're willing to pay even more for the nanotexture glass, which is apparently very cintiq-like, but is locked behind the 1TB model

>>7401367
The nano glass isn't really that textured honestly.
Also every tablet made for the past like 5+ years is laminated

>>7401381
any thoughts on oled burn in risk with art software UI?

I wanna use my surface pro as a tablet for my desktop. Can i do this with parsec?

>>7397026

Don't get the star 03. The pen nib wobbles and the pressure is fucked. it goes from 10 to 100 randomly with light pressure.

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The Seven Pens' drawing tablet tier list from his latest stream.
Some things to consider, for display tablets
>anti-glare sparkle will make it rank lower
For screenless tablets
>neither of the tablets on A have tilt (thanks Wacom), the Frego S doesn't either
>iirc he thought the Frego M was better than both the Inspiroy 2 L and the Deco L(W), there's no "left is better than right in the same tier" logic (more things were said during the stream)
>it's not just drawing performance, other "nice to have" features will bump a tablet up a bit
>the Giano and Deco Pro XLW have uncomfortable sizes since you pretty much can't put anything else (like a keyboard) within arm's length at that point
I should ask the guy about it later

>>7402425
>anti-glare sparkle
I still have no idea what this even is, and I've been using a tablet that supposedly has it for 3 years

>>7402425
>The Seven Pens
does he show any of his art? why do people care about his opinion?

>>7402444
will chink tablets magically stop having buggy tilt and hardware smoothing to mask line wobble if he shows his art?

>>7402457
considering he has a brand that the OP specifically tells us not to buy in s rank i would trust his opinion more if he showed his art, yes
for all i know he gets a bag every now and then to promote a brand in these videos

>>7399206
I use the ipad air m2 and it works perfectly. the 120hz screen from the pro is nice but the air is $300 or $400 cheaper and that isn't a deal breaker. Procreate is amazing so I highly recommend it

>>7402457
>hardware smoothing to mask line wobble
Anon, every Wacom tablet sold right now other than the basic CTL-472 and CTL-672 have this. It's not a "chink manufacturer" thing.
>>7402467
The OP is made by a schizo who creates a new thread when the current one is like 30 posts away from autosage (over 24 hours before it's archived), and copies random posts from 2019 to get it to autosage earlier. Just ignore him.

>>7402467
>OP specifically tells us not to buy
op literally does not draw. why would you trust him more than someone that reviews tablets for a living?

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whoever came up with windows ink should be hung by his balls until the blood goes to his brain and he realizes how much of an idiot he is.

>>7402479
This guys dedication is insane. Imagine if he put just 25% of that energy into actually drawing instead of talking about his tablets collecting dust on the desk.

How different are the Intuos and Intuos Pro? Would upgrading to the Pro make your art much better?
Are there people who upgraded from a screenless pad to something with a screen? Did it significantly make it easier to make good drawings or affected your drawings in a way that the huge cost is justified?

>>7402481
I'm pretty sure that guy earns jack shit for his tablet reviews, he's a software dev with a special interest in drawing tablets, I think he has worked on drawing programs, but I don't know his name so it's not like I can pull up his resume

>>7402493
does he at least get them for free? I can't imagine someone spending realistically tens of thousands of dollars just for funsies.

>>7402425
does this really mean anything though, at which tier is a tablet actually bad for drawing?

>>7402504
The D tier Wacom One S/M actually have hardware issues, I don't know about the others.
He only included tablets that could have been considered halfway decent by people, none of those 5-8 year old XP-Pen and Huion tablets still on Amazon like the Deco 01 V2 this anon talks about >>7392424, because we've moved past that

>>7402515
The deco 01v2 is like 3 years old. What the hell tablets are you seeing 5-8 years old still being sold?

>>7402501
the guy youre replying to is that youtuber, dont fall for his kike tricks no person would spend all that money to do some reviews without gaining anything

>>7402520
>The deco 01v2 is like 3 years old.
Anon, 2019 was 5 years ago
And the Huion H1060P is from 2016

>>7402524
Jesus are they really that old?

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>buy deco v2
>connect tablet
>install drivers
>open CSP
>everything seems to be fine
>whenever I make contact with the tablet and don't move the cursor it starts skipping small intervals as if it were sticking to a ruler or as if it froze for a second before responding again
>works fine with normal strokes and everything else
Is this windows fuckery or am I gonna have to go searching for old ass drivers to solve this?

>>7402780

you can try OTD

https://opentabletdriver.net/

they don't support some tablet tilt/wheel though

>>7402501
>I'm retired - after 28 years of working at Microsoft
He's loaded

>>7392316

my xp pen deco starts fucking lines up. took out my old wacom intuos small. The simple wacom pen feels 100x better than the xp pen. It only have pressure slider not even a curve. left everything at default and man it feels good.

end up buying an old scratchy intuos 4 for the price of 3 cheeseburgers. still works. it looks ugly, scratchy and bulky but goddamn the pen feels good.

I've only used the old xppen tablet though. anyone know if the x3 is the same or even better than intuos 4 pen? I might give the newer model a try.

>>7402993
I don't have an Intuos4 to compare, but the X3 is much better than what XP-Pen had before at least. The 3g IAF (instead of 30g) makes for a much better drawing experience. Huion has improved lately too.
Honestly, if the Intuos you got isn't too small and you got the drivers to work you should probably get a tablet surface cover, pen nibs and stick with it. Wacom got everything right early

>>7402444
Surely he doesn't just spend a few ten thousand grand to not use his tablets
What if the reason why he doesn't show his work is because people would recognize him as a lolichad?

>>7402780
just tried it and it's still the same, the odd thing is that in the driver panel where you can test the pen it works flawlessly but in any other application the stuttering happens so I have no idea if it's software or hardware related. If I can't get it to work soon I'm just going to buy something else.

>>7403340
meant to reply >>7402987

>>7402780
Have you contacted support?

>>7403432
Someone did and posted this:
https://old.reddit.com/r/XPpen/comments/xblttz/help_my_new_deco_v2_is_jumpy/
claiming that they got a firmware that fixed it from XP Pen support, but you should contact them yourself

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Ok it's definitely a hardware issue, tried it on another PC and it was the same. The top of the surface area stutters and the lower one doesn't. That's why I got tricked by the driver panel thing, that little square is at the bottom of the screen so it works flawlessly. At least it feels good to know what the issue is.

>>7403432
I will contact them right now but I doubt there is much they can do if it can't be fixed remotely, I can't really return it when I live in the middle of nowhere.
>>7403433
this is literally it, the same exact thing. I'm gonna try that and post if it works.

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It fucking works, you guys saved my ass. I have a lot of work to do and already lost a few days trying to go at this on my own.

Thinking of trying out rebelle, how simple is it to just use?
By simple i mean minimal emphasis on/no logging in, connecting to cloud storage, being bothered with community hubs and tutorials, etc
i get incredibly put off by that kind of thing, once I've plapped my product key or bought the program i just want it to open and bring me to my workspace

>>7403555
nothing to do with tablets, piss off moron.

>>7403555
I found rebelle 5 confusing to use personally, but I don't have a painterly style and never use paint brushes in csp. My very limited trad painting experience is all wet on wet bob ross style oil painting. it seems like a fun program and I'm sure you can make good stuff with it, but the hour or so I fiddled with it it didn't draw me in.

>minimal emphasis on/no logging in, connecting to cloud storage, being bothered with community hubs and tutorials, etc
none of that. you just open it and paint.

>>7403568
someone piss in your cheerios this morning, guzzler?

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>>7392316
So I just got a cheap small Wacom tablet used from facebook marketplace after to try out after learning to draw these past few months with xp-pen.
The only thing I have to say is that I'm sorry for ever doubting you wacombros, this thing really feels nice to draw at, can't believe something that costed me $15 feels so good.

>>7403806
that's funny because I'm in a very similar boat as we speak. Glad it's treating you well.

>>7392316
>>7392424
I am looking to upgrade my tablet from an Intuos Pro Medium. Nothing wrong with it but I find that I prefer my iPad to my Intuos and I hate being tied down because of how fast the iPad battery drains. Would rather get a Cintiq and use the full power of my PC.

My question is how viable is an older Cintiq model in this day and age? A guy on facebook marketplace is selling the 13 inch "old version" one for $300. Good buy? Or should I save up for a more modern one? Way back in the day people were saying how the old ones were good and the new ones were shit, right about the time the Wacom One came out. Are the old ones still better? (assuming the one being sold is actually functional and that I'm not buying somebody else's problem of course)

>>7403824
All used Cintiqs are perfectly fine. No need to pay a huge premium for new models. If you ever want to get into animating then maybe consider a big one.

>>7403842
>>7403824
Holy fuck, guzzler.

help me pick the best tablet out of these 3.

Similar price. I just want to know which of these 3 have the better pen.

Wacom CTL-672

Huion Inspiroy 2 - Huion pentech 3. Comes with Pw110 but also compatible with huion 517 and 550

Xp Pen Deco LW - Comes with X3 pen. I don't really care about the wireless part it.

>>7403925
X3 pen is the newest and best of the three. Wacom one pen is really awful, huion pentech 3.0 is okay, but it's marginally worse from my experience than the xppen.

>>7403925
Check this guy notes and decide yourself:
https://docs.thesevenpens.com/drawtab/recommendations/pen-tablet-recommendations/medium-pen-tablet-recommendations

Huion became good with pentech 4, everything before is relatively trash.
Wacom not giving you tilt on the One is a dick move. Even 15 years old models have the goddamn tilt. Maybe you can find a used Intuos for cheap.
I'm not experienced with XP pen, try reading up on sevenpens.

>>7403928
Pentech 3 was fine.

>>7403929
There's a difference between fine and good.

I tried drawing on tablets, but this shit is too complicated for me. I never was sure what resolution I should use, how I should configure the brushes, where good brushes are to download, which program I should use, how I could be able to ad a watercolor effect, get nice paper texture, etc
In the end I just went back to traditional. It may be more time consuming, but I don't regret anything.

Ching Chong Huang Dong:
>>7403927
>>7403928

>>7403985
Why are you like this

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>Chinese tablet users when they try a wacom for the first time

>>7402780
no lefunds
you should've bought a used wacom intuos pro like anybody with more than 2 neurons

>>7403945
I haven't had any negative experience in the slightest with 3.0

>>7402425
If I don't really care about buttons or a pen eraser, is there a noticeable difference between the XP-Pen Deco LW (X3 Elite pen) and the Deco Pro LW Gen 2 (X3 Pro pen)? Also leaning towards the L, I don't use Bluetooth and without a battery there's one thing less that can fail and take the rest of the tablet with it.

serious question, what is there to talk about with tablets anymore? Does any of this stuff actually make a real world difference, or is it just tech geeks jerking off to numbers that won't improve your workflow or end product? It's like faggot that spend $1500 on a new phone every year just to browse twitter and take selfies for tiktok.
I have a 4 year old tablet at this point and have never once felt like there was anything about it that negatively affected my art. I'm able to consistently get comms at $120 each, and I really don't see any reason why I would spend like $4000 on a tablet when my $400 one works.

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i feel like treating myself the newest apple air 11 inch with an apple pro pencil with procreate for the lulz.

should be roughly 650€

talk me out of it.

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>>7392316
Is it worth moving from the CTL-472 to another bigger, screenless drawing tablet? Anyone who felt any tangible impact doing it?

>>7404365
Ipads have inherent diagonal wobble and mediocre pens and require screen protectors that need to be changed somewhat frequently if you want a textured drawing surface.
Magic drawing pad is cheaper and better

>>7404389
Do you need tilt?
Do you feel like you need more space, a better pen or buttons?

>>7404395
>Magic drawing pad is cheaper and better
Nah, it isn't.
You're a shillbot idiot. There's a long list of pros who use iPads. Nobody uses your worthless cheap chinese garbage.

>>7404481
You
Do
Not
Draw

>>7404517
Chang even if you want to desperately persist with this cope, it doesn't change the fact that there are countless professional artists using iPads, and nobody is using your low quality piece of XP-garbage.

No amount of screeching about non-existent line wobble changes the facts. People use iPads, nobody uses your garbage.

>>7404700
You
Do
Not
Draw

>non-existent line wobble
>>7403999

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>chinese idiot thinks a random anonymous screenshot carries more weight than thousands upon thousands of professional artists using iPads

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>Bought a deco fun L
>tried connecting it
>the cursor doesn't move, but the pentatable software is registering the pressure
>cursor only moves with the software closes, but theres no pen pressure
>restarting clipstudio and replugging in the tablet makes the cursor move and i have pen pressure, but using commands like ctrl+z freezes the cursor in the middle of my screen until i release the command
anyone know what the FUCK is happening and how to fix it?

>>7405005
Check the usual suspects
Windows ink, multiple tablet drivers, out dated drivers, faulty cable, settings incorrect

I bought a cheap Chinese tablet after my first few commissions, and after only two weeks, it already stopped working.

I should've done some research and bought a Wacom... :(

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>>7405221
This anon can't even mention a brand because he probably got a literal no name piece of shit

>>7405263
bold of you to assume he even bought a tablet

After 6 years my old and crusty Intuos if finally starting to malfunction, so now I want to "upgrade" to a display tablet, but I can't really decide between the Kavmas 13 (3rd gen) and the regular 22 model. I'm open to suggestions, my budget is around 400-500 usd though right now I'm edging towards the 13 because it's cheaper and I don't mind a smaller screen.
Also any idea why there's such a gap between them in this tier list? >>7402425

>>7405263
>>7405268
It’s a Multilaser MX002, the worst purchase of my life. It was just 60 dollars, so I should’ve known it was too good to be true. It’s very big and has buttons and stuff. The reviews on the website weren’t bad either.

I had to buy another tablet with some savings I had today. I have some commissions to do, and I can’t leave people waiting since I’m still starting out. I bought the cheapest Wacom I could find: a One by Wacom, the small one

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>>7405610
forgot to attach tablet pic

>>7405611
Oh god, it really was one of those chink tablets with a trillion different names
Those go for less than $30 in most countries. Where do you live?

>>7405626
In a 3rd world shit hole, brazil.

Hopefully the wacom I bought will be better.

>>7405628
it at least should work but why the small one?

can you return that damaged noname tablet? you'd have enough money for a medium sized screenless tablet

>>7405640
I can't return it, I tried. It broke exactly after the buyer's protection ran out at the online store where I bought it, so after two weeks.

If I could, I would've bought a medium-sized tablet, but I just don't have enough money or time to save up for one since, as I said before, I have to deliver some comms so i'm kind of in a panic to get a new one asap.

>>7405628
Checked Brazilian prices, some of XP-Pen's latest models are available in an official store, Wacom sells many of its models officially, Huion has barely anything
The two cheap medium/large options worth getting are the Wacom CTL-672 and the XP-Pen Deco L (the other Deco sizes and the models with Bluetooth haven't been imported officially to Brazil so they're much more expensive).
https://www.mercadolivre.com.br/mesa-digitalizadora-one-by-wacom-media-pretavermelha-ctl672/p/MLB18062498
https://www.storexppen.com.br/buy/deco-l.html

I don't know Portuguese, but I found these articles saying that you should have more time when there are defects, legally:
https://blog.reclameaqui.com.br/produto-com-defeito-conheca-os-prazos-de-garantia/
https://www.jusbrasil.com.br/artigos/o-que-fazer-quando-a-loja-nao-quer-trocar-um-produto/2628017095
I've had to contact consumer protection organisms in my country with varying results, I hope you have luck returning it.

>>7405610
>It was just 60 dollars
why the fuck would you pay $60 for a literally fucking who brand when you could pay $60 for a reputable brand?
this has nothing to do with it being chinkshit, it has everything to do with you being a retard

>>7405653
thanks, i'll try making a complaint on reclameaqui, hopefully i'll get my money back. As for the medium tablets you linked, I don't have money to buy them, that's why I went for the small, cheap wacom one.

>>7405666
Yeah, I was a retard, I admit to that. I just thought that because of the reviews, it could be good, you know? atleast I learned through my mistakes.

>>7405672
you're better off with the xppen l the guy linked
like, way, way better off

>>7405674
XP-Pen is 250 reais more expensive than the small Wacom one. What I'll do is: I'll get the Wacom one, which I already bought, use it to deliver the commissions, then I'll put it up for sale as brand new. I'll use the cash from that and the commissions to buy a better tablet.

It's either this or I won't be able to draw at all. If I deliver two commissions, I'd be able to get a Deco Pro S, for example.

just curious: how do guys who don't know anything about tablets manage to get commissions?

okay self flagellation time
>just installed a paper like screen protector meant for an entertainment tablet
>i can hear the nibs screaming in agony now
>they're literally wearing down as if made out of ice
i'm a fucking retard
the texture does feel nice though

>>7406243
It's worth it

>>7406244
i'm gonna burn through nibs at 1 per session. i don't have enough to last a month. maybe i should figure out if you can coax 3d printer to shit them out.

>>7406246
>i'm gonna burn through nibs at 1 per session.
Did you confuse sandpaper for a screen protector? None of them are that bad unless you press extremely hard. Like mentally retarded toddler coloring hard

>>7402425
I've seen many people talk about the Deco M/L and Pro M/L lines being very close to each other
Someone asked him what the difference was between the Deco and Pro Gen 2 excluding things like the eraser, and he said the only noticeable difference was the pen's max pressure and pressure curve
So that would put that tablet on the S tier and the tablet on the B tier really close to each other if you don't care about the premium features

>>7406273
it's 5903108448475

>>7406285
I skimmed through the video and he doesn't really have consistent reasoning for different tiers, and nothing even in lower tiers have any glaring flaws. It's like having 20 things that are all excellent but having to nitpick the tiniest thing to drop it down lower.
it's been said over and over again, but any* tablet made by the big 4 (wacom, huion, xppen, xencelab) will be adequate for anything you're doing. none of these tools will hold you back from drawing professional work, only the skill of the artist using them will.

*- not you, huion slate 10. absolute steaming pile of shit.

>>7392461
Unless you're working for print, I don't think Color accuaracy is that important, People will see your shit on displays with vastly different colors

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damn, just look at this. this was like an hour of doodlin'.

>>7406478
do you press really hard?

>>7406556
how do i know what's hard? put scales under the tablet?

Shortcut assigning recommendation?
aside from drawing/erasing mode, zooming in and out. maybe creating new layer?
changed ctrl+z to shift+ctrl+z

biggest question if I want to zoom and then move enlarged portion of document with just tablet and pen, is it doable?
I am really new in it

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>>7406789
This is what I use

>>7406789
Also for your second question do you mean zoom in and drag your view around on the canvas? That's what hand tool is for

>>7406791
ok, I have only 10 buttons including pen
>>7406795
yes

SOME OF YOU NIGGAS RECOMMEND SOME PORTABLES?

I WANT TO DRAW IN MY BED BUT OF COURSE I WOULD LIKE TO LEVERAGE THE ADVANTAGE OF MY PC SO THEY CANNOT BE ANDROID

MINES ARE ALREADY BROKENS AND I FEELING DEAD NOW THAT I CAN'T DO THE MOST THAT I LOVE IN THIS FUCKING LIFE

>>7404335
Serious answer, there's lots to talk about but the companies that produce new tablets are too incompetent to support any real discussion. Everyone boasts about pressure levels and screen resolution. You already have to come here to learn about line wobble, so where are you going to learn about barrel button activation force? Nobody in the space even acknowledges that a button you might end up holding down for hours every day might be important.

>>7406478
What kind of a nib is that? Aftermarket or new wacom?

>>7406884
>barrel button activation force
Sounds fucking autistic and like something no one cares about so it doesn't get advertised

>>7406886
found a deal that didn't look like an extortion and got 5 baggies. the stickers on them appear to have tamper evident features so i think they're legit.

>>7406801
There are no good portable windows tablets.
The best is either a kamvas studio 16 (heavy and big fir bed use) or a surface pro (mediocre drawing experience)
Just get an android tablet and use csp

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>tiny wacom intuos finally gave out after 7 years of nonstop drawing

>>7404395
>this cope
lol

>>7407087
what cope? I literally sold my ipad pro after getting the mdp because it's just plain better.

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>>7407099
dang really? if only all those professional artists who make a living using procreate knew what they were missing

>>7407101
chang, you're not convincing anyone that your islop is a professional art tool.
I fully expect you'll go into spam mode pretty soon

>>7407111
>I fully expect you'll go into spam mode pretty soon
yeah I'm sure they'll go
>location:usa
>budget:
>etc
and replying to random shit in the thread as well as asking questions literally no one would ask, right after you make the new thread. I'm sure it's chang and not you, right?

>>7407099
>what cope? I literally sold my ipad pro after getting the mdp because it's just plain better.
Desperate little chinese retard.

>use felt nib
>nails on a chalkboard-esque feel from it
yucky yucky yucky wtfffff

Hello! I wanted to post a review of anyone is indecisive. I bought the galaxy tab s6 lite after you guys spoke so highly of it and I highly recommend it. It's cheaper on amazon than it is on the samsung website. This is my first tablet but I already see my art shooting forward in quality. This was one of the first sketches I made. It may not be fantastic by ic standards but this is one of the best portrait sketches I've made. 10/10 super smooth and portable. Thank you guys for this great recommendation

>>7392316
got my first tablet a few days ago
is it a bad idea to form a reliance on stroke smoothing? this tablet was very cheap and it's kind of slick and hard to keep lines straight

>>7409000
what apps you tested? Artflow is really nice for some sketching and basic painting, is very capable with only the free options.
How is the heat? and the battery? the pencil is already perfect so there is no question about it.
Usually the drawing apps dont consume too much of the battery so you should drawing a lot of hours, even more if you don't use other apps at the same time and low the brightness when yoo do sketching

>>7394923
Ah fuck, I would get S7+ right away if only csp was a one time purchase

>>7409002
ive only used artflow so far. Any other recommendations? As for the heat i purchased a super thick case so i honestly couldnt notice if its there or not. The battery lasts a super long time, ive only been interrupted once so far to charge and thats because i was staying up later than normal.

>>7392316
What's an acceptable amount of physical wear and tear on a pre-owned 2nd gen Ipad Pro? e.g. Light scratches on the screen, or blemishes on the body, etc.

Been browsing ebay looking to swoop one up and want to know things to look out for.

>>7409006
Artflow is my personal go-to for most work, but there are a few other things worth at least checking out.

Infinite Painter has an interface that's almost as comfy as Artflow (some find it comfier) and a much more powerful brush engine with blending options.

Clip Studio Paint has just about the best brush engine, and is incredibly powerful. It works with bigger canvases (artflow caps out at 6k, and I can work in CSP at 20k). The biggest downside is that it's a subscription, but you get 6 months free to try it, and then it's only like $25 a year.

Krita is in beta, and the UI can bug out pretty bad sometimes, but development is continuing pretty well so it's worth keeping an eye on. It's brush engine is at least as good as the one in CSP, but Krita is completely free. Once the bugs are worked out I expect it to be one of the most used artistic apps on Android.

I'd use CSP and Krita for everything if they didn't have desktop user interfaces that feel kinda clunky on a tablet.

Since we're not allowed to have affordable tablets. Explain what makes Wacom so much better.

>>7392316
Has anyone ever had a tablet screen look "blotchy"? It only seem to be visibly on dark greys, but it seems like there's a pattern of slightly lighter and darker areas.

>>7392371
Why did you fall for the XP-Pen meme? You were warned.

Wait a minute. I want to buy my first tablet and I decided on the Wacom Intuos Pro M
But I see a PTH-660 model and a Paper Edition PPH-660P and honestly, I'm confused what's the difference and which one is better.
Very similar price range too

>>7392316
What laptop do you guys use ? I need something affordable rn

Whats a good way of wearing down the intuos pros surface on purpose to smoothen it out? Fuck paying for new nibs every week

>>7409042
just get a transparency sheet or paper and tape it over the sensor area, depends on what kind of work surface you prefer. Either way, no more nibs dissolving.

>>7392316
I asked in iPad general and I guess I'll ask here too.
What am I missing out on if I buy an iPad 8 and first gen pencil instead of an Air 4 with gen 2 pencil?
The first option saves $285 dollars.

Hey samsungbros they announced the S-pen pro with two buttons on it as well as third party pen support in the future.

Per the argument above, i am currently comparing the Wacom One and the Huion Inspiroy HS611 for below 100 tablets.
Are there any more known contenders to add to my list to do further research on?

>>7392316
Does anyone know of a good Ergotron arm for an Artist Pro 24? Someone gifted me a tablet last year, but I haven't seen anything online about mounting one of these tablets to an arm. I saw one post complaining about arms over-weighted dipping forward and all the Youtube videos just us the Cintiq Pro 24 and its overly expensive Wacom Flex(?) arms. I heard about the Ergotron LX, but all I could find for a decent price was the Ergotron HX series. Anyone in these threads have any experiece with drawing tablets being mounted to arms? Also, I believe the Xp-Pen Pro 24 is about 16 pounds, if that matters.

>bought Deco Pro
>plug it in, doesn't recognize the pen as stylus
>install driver
>still doesn't but the wheel and other buttons work, also if I press the pen it actually detects pressure
>uninstall driver, install another, nothing
>uninstall the other driver and install the first one
>works and feels pretty good to use
>reboot laptop, stops working again
>have to do that shit with the drivers everytime to get it to work
Maybe I should've listened

>>7409000
happy to hear you're enjoying your s6, nice rendering of the hair btw. now get out of hear and draw!

What's an acceptable amount of physical wear and tear on a pre-owned 2nd gen Ipad Pro? e.g. Light scratches on the screen, or blemishes on the body, etc.

Been browsing ebay looking to swoop one up and want to know things to look out for.

>>7409046
Reminder that if you bought a Samsung Tablet, you should get superDisplay. Absolutely essential app for art and utility.

Has anyone used an iPad and like... A kamvas or something. I absolutely detest how the iPad feels. I like my intuos a lot, but wanted to try a screenless tablet other than an iPad

>>7409056
With the kamvas, the screen feels... softer? With the ipad its very clearly a stick against a hard surface, and I'm constantly afraid of scratching the screen or snapping the pencil. The kamvas feels really nice to draw on, and is probably similar to how the intuos feels. feels like a plastic nib on a plastic surface.

Redpill me on the s7plus? Looking to replace my ancient cintiq hybrid and with superdisplay it looks like now may be the time.

Has anyone heard of Veikk? They messaged me and offered a free tablet to review on Amazon. I went through with the offer and the tablet is pretty nice.

>>7392316
Just bought Wacom intuos Small, instead of 3 as you recomended, what am I in for?

also Free Hongkong

Is blue light something I should be concerned about? Should I get a screen protector that blocks/filters it, or don't bother?

>>7392316
Looking into getting a preowned Ipad Pro 12.9in 2nd gen, but had some questions about acceptable levels of wear and tear- e.g. are small scratches okay? Can I just throw on a screen protector and not worry about it distrubing the drawing process to much? Some things to look out for would be useful- I know stuff like dead pixels are pretty much a no go etc., so physical imperfections are what I'm more curious about.

>>7408992
>>7408992
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>>7406243
Maybe this is a dumb but are there any American or non-asian graphics tablet companies? Ideally ones who dont have their factories in china but that's impossible. I don't want to support the CCP in any way and will always buy from elsewhere if I can.

>>7396634
>+ a dokiwear glove
Art gloves- a meme or handy?
I’m super autistic about getting sweat marks on my screen and it’s taken a long time for me to just relax and accept it’s going to happen

Picked up a Wacom 16, it’s arriving soon and I’m excited. Been using an IPad Pro for years now, which I absolutely love but I was looking to have a professional desktop workspace

I haven’t bought photoshop for quite a few years- is the £10 per month photography bundle including all of the features a pro artist needs or is it a gimped version?

>>7402515
So I should get the One even though it isn't good, because old = bad? Or I should get a chink tablet over the 3 because old = bad?
I'm getting confused here.

>>7409071
The One by Wacom is perfectly fine.

>>7405687
Use paper.

>>7405610
>>7405611
You made a mistake.

>>7404406
>Do you need tilt?
Why are you even asking a question like this?

>>7402489
No, just get the One by Wacom.

New thread:

>>7408992
>>7408992
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>>7408423
This is simply not true.

>>7409066
just grabbed a bunch of names i didn't recognize from opentabletdriver list. looking at company registrations would probably make more sense, but i don't know where to look that up.
>adesso
maybe formerly american? has departments in china
https://www.adesso.com/about-us/
>parblo
likely chink
https://www.parblo.com/pages/notice
>uc-logic
wasn't able to find info
>ugee
chink
https://www.ugee.com/about
>veikk
chink
https://veikk.com/route/v2/support/information?information_id=4
>xencelabs
hard to tell, might be american
https://www.xencelabs.com/user-agreement
>xenx
chink
https://store.xenx-tech.com/policies/privacy-policy

oh, and wacom is jap

>>7409106
nvm about xencelabs
https://solutions.xencelabs.com/en/support/solutions/articles/67000416530-is-xencelabs-a-chinese-company-