I am socialise awkard and introverted. I just want to draw. Do I really need to pretend to be chipper and sociable, and create an uwu community just so people see my stuff?>Pic was posted on Threads for instagram
>>7406369no, its a bad idea to push it if its not your personality. that being said you wont get likes and money if you don't promote.
Yes. Be obnoxiously introverted and talk all cutesy and repost memes 24/7 and blog about your life and go into explicit detail about your political opinions and people will be fucking SWARMING you.
>>7406383>introvertedextroverted fuck
>>7406369>Do I really need to pretend to be chipper and sociable, and create an uwu community just so people see my stuff?No, but it helps immensely so you might want to find your way around it. Also promoting yourself is a basic skill you MUST learn if you want to make it on the social media rat race, so in one way or another you have to be some degree of sociable. You don't need to be an extrovert with many interesting things to say to make friends, a class clown or the heart of the party... you just have to be someone people feel comfortable with engaging with even if it's through basic comments.
>>7406369I did this and never got money anyways.
>>7406382>>7406389I see. Whelp I have no idea how to market myself. Guess I better head to youtube to learn. Thanks for the help anons.
I go to the candy shop to buy candy.I follow an artist to see his art.If the candy lady wants to show me something amazing - maybe she has a drone and wants to let me fly it -, I would LOVE to interact.If she just wants to vent about her husband beating her, I'm not interested.In the same vein, if the artist I follow wants to post his home-made cover of Bohemian Rhapsody, sung amateurishly but with passion, I'll take it, cool break from the usual stuff. I don't like Queen, but eh, I'm glad to see you trying things.But if it's just some retard blogging about his every day meals or nitpicking what some woman was wearing at the mall, FUCK OFF, NIGGER, I DON'T WANNA HEAR ABOUT IT, POST ART, ASK GENUINE QUESTIONS IF YOU NEED HELP OR SHUT THE FUCK UP.If EVERYONE starts doing what OP recommends, then Twitter becomes a sea of spam.It's not genuine, it's not organic, the squeaky wheel gets the algorithm, but it's the first one I wish I will replace.Fix the algorithm, not entire human behavior.(I know that's a tall order, since these dystopian fucks are all about altering human behavior, fuck all the enablers, fucking NPCs, I mad.)
>>7406382Well, what do you mean by "promote" exactly?What should I (an autistic, asocial, racist, misogynist, NEET, incel with no sense of humor) do, to grow a following?
there are a bunch of nipponese artists named @2109873912hdwij who don't follow anyone, don't say a single word and just post their art and it has 50k interations.I think you have to make more effort the less skills you have.
>>7406369>Be Hungry Clicker>Have almost 700k followers, including prominent concept, comic, and manga artists>Hasn't followed a single person in almost 10 years>Exclusively posts their work and doesn't talk to anyone
>>7406369No, just get good and/or do something most people aren't doing
>>7406565TBF he probably knows some of those industry people IRL and then it snowballed. But you do make good point.
>>7406369no? I got a following technically just by liking and retweeting stuff I like, because the same kind of degenerate sometimes look at my stuff and they might retweet it so their follow can see it. You don't have to be very social, but if you don't interact with other people's content nobody is going to make any connections just by the nature of how information spreads. You don't have to be very social but then you must have realistic expectation on what achievable and at what time frame.
>>7406369Yes, you have to socialize, but you don't need to do it with words. No one gives a shit about your epic OC, nor do they have any obligation to.But if you show that you care about what they care about, they might be more willing to throw you a bone. What looks outwardly like drawing a "thing of the week" a lot of times, is actually the artist having a dialogue with viewers. No one is going to follow you just because you drew Botswanian Miku, but they might if you do it in a way that shows you have engaging thoughts to share.
There should be a special site for introverted artists where you get b*nned for too many text, b'cause I want to see pics from ones who draw more than talk.
>>7406415The best marketing is good art of popular characters.
>>7406499This is true, although I don't know how they began to accumulate an audience. Hashtags or something? Even if you're skilled, when you're at the bottom it's difficult.
>>7406565is hungry clicker even a real person or a team or something? How the fuck does he draw so much?the topic of this thread doesn't apply to him because he is the embodiment of "just draw", he takes it to the extreme, drawing full portraits daily for years. Most people don't have that energy.Its like saying you don't need chakra to be a ninja in the Naruto world, and then you point at prodigies like Rock Lee and Guy.
>>7406770It's not actually that unrealistic. The hardest part is coming up with ideas day after day. But his style is loose enough that it doesn't look like it takes that long to do.That being said, I can't 100% tell if it's the same person. Some little hallmarks like the hatching and color choices make me think it is. But even if it's all finished by one person doesn't mean there isn't a team who does the prelim sketches or comes up with the ideas.
>>7406499true, all my favorite jap artists are named kancho2000 or y12345
>>7406369>ThreadsDo I even need to say anything folks? The joke tells itself.
>>7406418Based.
>>7406565This gives me hope for the future. >>7406770I would rather suffer in that way than have to "engage." Burn because it's nonconsensual and obnoxious, but also because it ultimately leads to people wanting to dox you or cancel you for something stupid you said that you probably didn't even mean and were just trying to follow the herd and drive engagement now all of a sudden you're enemy number one. So many articles I've seen where someone says: "I saw this person and decided to spend a week combining through their Twitter history to see if I could cancel them." Fuck off with that shit. I love how the goal in Japan is to be completely anonymous and never interact with anyone.
>>7406860NTA but if you consider "socializing" synonymous with "saying stupid shit that makes people hate you" then you definitely should not bother with treating social media as anything other than a pure gallery.
>>7406860that's going to happen to anybody who get traction at all, in fact, its possible to cancel anybody for any content for any reason.
>>7406868that anon sounded like an asshole.
>>7406868You sound like a social ableist. Get cancelled chud
>interact with the community What the fuck does this even mean as an artist though? Clearly "just drawing" doesn't work. Asking questions to no audience doesn't work. Like, the only thing you can do is draw other people's OC
>>7406369Hire a social media manager to do it for you (assuming your art is good enough to be marketable).
Internet communities aren't real. You should create real community in real life.
>>7407105This. Become the next big cult phenomenon (literal if you want to go that route)
>>7407016send memes or actually be funny, but that's asking too much from the average 4chin shitter.
>>7407125Why should I post meaningless bullshit no one cares about?
>>7407127And that's why you struggle to build a community.
>>7407125Send memes to who? Be funny to who? People aren't seeing your art already so how can this be done?
>>7407131in the niche/fandom you're apart of. Do you want to be hand held or bottle fed?
>>7407133That's the problem you nigger the drawings are not getting to the community
>>7407140It will, you do that by interacting with large creators creator or similar followers as you in that fandom/niche. Fucking talking to them, sending memes, being funny, etc. Christ shouldn't expect much from you autistic anti social retards.
>>7407140Well, what's your niche? What type of art do you make?
>>7407150>Fucking talking to them, sending memes, being funny, etc.That shit doesn't work you sperg you think some 10K+ artist is gonna give a shit about some /literally who/ begging for attention? >>7407133>niche/fandom you're apart of.you think we're all discord fags integrated into some retarded tumblr fandom?
>>7407204what are you into?
>>7407221indie games and manga(yes i'm a massive loser duh)
>>7407241>indie gamesI'll give a sperg like you a hint. Draw hell taker shit, the creator even made a new game called Awaria and stuff like limbus company. It's better if you enjoy those.
>>7407016Anon it's not rocket science, just click "like" on things you like, "share" on things you want to share and comment when you have something to comment. Reply to or at least like comments on your work, even if it's just a "thank you" (though don't respond to obvious flame bait or trolling, that's inviting the wrong kind of interaction). >>7407125>send memesFor the love of god don't fucking do that, if you're funny then you wouldn't be here asking this question in the first place so definitely don't try to be funny if you're not.
>>7406369This whole song and dance is infuriating.>promoting your works gets you banned on almost every social media group for shilling>engaging with meme posts fills your timeline with memes that people don't want to see>engaging with politics fills your timeline with politics people don't want to see>can't post on reddit because not enough karma>discord groups are either invite only or follows the same issues of promotion that twitter holdsThere's no winning, if you haven't already made it ten-fifteen years ago making it now relies completely on luck.
>>7407263>Draw hell taker shit, the creator even made a new game called Awaria and stuff like limbus company.if drawing "fanart" of gachaslop is what it takes then so be itAny other fanbases to pander to? more popular the better im not part of any "community" obviously
>>7407316nta, it's not about pandering. If you're pandering, you've already lost. You have to show you're part of the community, otherwise no one's going to give a shit still.
>>7406369just use AI and change the stock sentences a little bit, heck you can ask AI to be your social media manager bot
>>7407299Yer doin it wrong lad>promote your work by just posting your works + the occasional/pinned 'commissions open, ask in DMs for details'>engage in meme posts by drawing your own take on a meme>don't engage in politics, it's guaranteed shitshow>why do you even go to Reddit>just click on random legit discord links, maybe one that's for a fanbase or indie game that you actually like, draw some art there and build connections by lurking and posting>don't open a twitter acc at all because it's infested with idiots or every stripe, or botsThe difference between a chance of making it and a 0% chance of success is to try, anon. So go try.
>>7407291Not him but I've been on Twitter since 2014.And only have around 500 followers.Sharing and liking stuff means nothing The niche that you mentioned are disgusting losers that are into literal shit. Niche consist of-shit porn-feet porn-midget porn.Just make your own brand and fuck everybody else.
>>7406369"Yes its annoying".WELL GOOD DAY TO YOU TOO, BITCH.
>>7406383The game is the game.
>>7408343>Not him but I've been on Twitter since 2014.>And only have around 500 followers.Well it worked for me.>The niche that you mentioned are disgusting losers that are into literal shitAt no point did I mention any sort of niche. You replying to the wrong post or something?
Or you could just use an actual art website and not waste your time not doing art.
Different people use different sites and different ways.In Pixiv, Deviant Art and E-Hentai, your tags matter the most. People use those sites to find art that they personally like and to find it, they search tags that interest them. So tag your stuff correctly for people to find you.In social media sites the algorithm checks which type of users are interested in you and depending on your post and profile activity you get pushed to users who are most likely interest to engage with you and your posts. Some users are into socializing, so if you produce content and also show activity in socializing you are more likely to appear on those users' timelines and recomendations.
>>7406369>Do I really need to pretend to be chipper and sociableYes.In my experience the saying:>Laugh and world will laugh with you, cry and you'll cry aloneHas been extremely true.There's a lot of artists crying online all day about their woes, but it gets old real fast and in general people like it a lot more when you have a happy go lucky personality, which is why it's so popular on social media.
>>7406369idk man. I personally dont engage with anyone, i dont have any community, i dont RT almost anything, dont get into fights,dont get into trending topics (unless i like the trend) and almost never make fanart. I make OC pieces normally and ive been doing this for like 3 years already. I got barely over 270 followers that wouldnt be there if i havent made fanart a couple of times. Without that factor i would be like 50 followers at best.So if you just wanna have fun and post what you like go ahead and be an antisocial prick, but if you wanna play the game of grinding in a social media app, you have to do what the OP image saids, sorry.
Imagine unironically wanting to cultivate parasocial relationships with terminally online social media users who can only think in extremes and probably only care for your art in the most bland and superficial way imaginable.
>>7406418I have at one point considered having a 'personal' account to rant and vent as an anon on X bsky etc, but then I remembered something, who fucking cares. But I looked on the side of my desk and remembered, I have a journal for that shit that, when full, will be burned. I post art, engage in art and will only socialise about art. People's thoughts don't always need to fill up the net.oh, your comment is based btw.
>>7408961>when full, will be burnedBased. I'm retarded and keep mine around and it makes me feel sad and pathetic whenever I look through them.
I know "appeal" is touted as a meme here just like "asian jeans" but the fact of the matter is how much appeal your art has plays a major role in your potential reach.Socializing is important too, but appeal is the real bottleneck.
