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I need to rigorously define the TC-V dynamics. This will allow me to express myself with sincerity and flexibility.
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I'm dumb and don't understand this thread but I wanna say the art posted is good
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>>7414036
Thank you. This is just a casual test to explore some unusual theories. The oversocialized artist 'hates me' because of my iconoclastic approach that refuses to bow to their limiting false gods.

But I’m simply pragmatic and logical in addressing the 'Cool Japan' problem.
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Good style, post more please.
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>>7414426
My creative approach is more internal—psychological and logical—rather than pragmatic and external—naturalistic. In my school of thought, fidelity to the conditioned stimulus is merely part of the process, not an end in itself. 'Our' ultimate goal is to rigorously document every aspect of the artistic interpretation and creation process, aiming for optimization and non-arbitrary scalability. This iconoclastic approach often puts me at odds with proponents of the classical naturalistic school.

Thank you. In any case, these are just experiments.
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6 year old art?
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>>7414835
Kisses or kicks—both forms of feedback are incredibly valuable. However, your comment is too vague to be helpful.
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>>7413956
>>7413959
>>7414827
>>7414833
SOVL
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>>7413959
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>>7414849
Im very confused. Why do you talk like a robot while drawing cartoons?
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>>7415104
Because I am destined to be the founder of TC, and the originating 'suns' do not conform to behavioral canons. "The warm and melancholic moons 'reflect' ".

In any case, I am just a red dwarf for now.
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crab worthy
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>>7417339
Don't get me wrong, I don't act in bad faith... it's just that I take my work very seriously.

And... superficial goals don't interest me [hedonism, fame, friendship...]
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>>7417457
sorry I took so long, I meant your stuff is worthy enough to be in that upcoming crab tourney in this board lol
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>>7413956
Can you explain what TC-V dynamics are? I like your style but I have never heard of that set of letters.

>>7414272
What is "'cool japan' problem"?

>>7414827
I feel like you'd enjoy this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4Jf_vE6Fo
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>>7419370
>I like your style but I have never heard of that set of letters.
He makes up words. He's a lunatic but I think he's on the right path.
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>>7419370
Theoretical Creativity (TC) refers to the hypothetical and novel use of rigid axiomatic models for expressive and aesthetic-psychological optimization purposes. Its antithesis, and currently the dominant canon, is Pragmatic Creativity (PC), which relies on naturalistic and cultural imitation. V refers to the visual branch, while A (auditory) and T (taste) are other potential branches that are not currently my focus but should not be trivialized due to the holistic nature of these dynamics.

>What is "'cool japan' problem"?
The 'Cool Japan' problem is the current objective overrepresentation of the 'yellow Tezuka-esque' macrostyle in the West—4chan is a vivid example of this phenomenon—which prevents other macrostyles with different nuances but the same 'N-S pattern' from flourishing due to the principle of 'precedent saturation.' The geo-agential institution of 'anime' is not a unique set of patterns; they can be replicated and improved, but to achieve this, one must distance oneself from its influence, which hinders sincere thought.

>I feel like you'd enjoy this video
Yes, Scott McCloud's work is a proto-form of theoretical creativity, but it remains an incomplete effort due to a lack of rigor. TC, in its highest fidelity, aspires to the total absence of ambiguity or leaps of faith; it is the artistic-psychological equivalent of mathematics.
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>Andrew Dobson tier cartoons but I let the predictive text in my texting app describe it
Yeeeawn
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>>7419821
A rule based system of expression is not unique, novel, innovative, or applicable but go off rat king
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>>7419827
The rigor of laws is the difference between TC and PC: A + B = C is not the same as "Maybe" + "Perhaps" = "Should be." What are 'form,' 'perspective,' and 'anatomy' of the naturalist school outside of vague and ineffective mnemonic devices?
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>>7419839
No I understand I just think it's meaningless slop. You're talking about finding "beauty" in the system and process itself rather than the output which is just an extension of this dumbass "anything is art" culture.
>What are 'form,' 'perspective,' and 'anatomy'
Tools to interpret reality and cultural norms? Baby's first philosophy class
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>>7419854
You need to be able to separate the wheat from the chaff and ignore social pressure: if you remove the 'easy money' aspect from conceptual art, some examples are genuinely interesting. However, it's also true that there's a lot of boring, redundant, and shallow work out there; we need one Pollock, not 100,000.

What is art? Well, personally, I define it as a 'noun set' that is the result of a 'verb set' with an anthropomorphic root. Therefore, your mocking premise is fundamentally correct: practically everything is 'art'. The difference is that not all art is aesthetically pleasing.

In the desert, if I move grains of sand with my finger, I could have '100,000 arts,' but they are trivial. A true artist must both increase and decrease entropy in a system, considering human aesthetics and psychology. TC isn’t just cold, detached logic—it taps into the natural world, using psychology as its ambassador.

>baby
Thanks
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>>7419890
Zero meaning in any of this, bloviate all you want but know it's wireless and pointless
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>>7413959
Who knew such cute art could also be a stabbing hazard with those acute edges?
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>>7419821
>>7419890

>I use deconstructive analysis to develop my art style.

>People copy one thing so everything is a derivative of that one thing.

>There is novelty in conceptual art, but also a lot of unnecessary copycats.

>Art is when you do a thing.

>All art is not equally valuable.

You know, when you eat the thesaurus and invent words to say something simple, you don't sound smart or creative, you just sound schizophrenic.

Regardless, despite the unintelligibly, this isn't anything particularly groundbreaking. Do you really think no one else uses analysis techniques? People have been going on about the golden ratio for nigh on 2000 years at this point.
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>>7419978
Precision should not be mistaken for mere verbosity. In a world full of false truths, it’s essential to define things clearly to avoid falling into clichéd narratives. Moreover, my concepts are quite unconventional, and the only way to grasp them is through an extended, unconventional permutation of words.

>schizophrenic
Do you know what's worse than schizophrenia? Over-socialization: those who have denied their inner divinity in exchange for dead flesh stuffed with hedonism. The structures of society are merely circumstantial tools for genuine self-development, not an end in themselves.

My words can only be savored by those who hunger for change. And from what I see here — and in the broader Western artistic scene — there's a deep complacency with the deification of the status quo: Merely painting within pre-established boundaries. TC is not just another form among many; it’s a radical shift in the approach to life.
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>>7421318
As long as you continue to talk around actually explaining it, it's still just pretentious gobbledygook, which is itself pretty cliche.
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>>7421347
A simplified version in case too much technical jargon is hard to understand:

The Japanese are culturally invading the West.

And they’re winning.

A counterattack needs to be developed.

TC represents wild theories that could lead to building a cultural "nuclear bomb."

Some people don’t even believe there’s a war happening—in fact, many are siding with the enemy.
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>>7421400
Yes, I got that much. But that still doesn't explain what TC is. You're just using buzzwords to justify not liking anime.
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>>7421400
Man I should trust my nose more. This thread smacked of /pol/ infused neuro-divergence.
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>>7421404
> justify not liking anime.
... While drawing in an anime-adjacent style.

>>7421400
You know your favourite 80s and 90s cartoons were animated in Japanese studios, right?
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>>7419821
...the first thing goes hand-to-hand with Arquitecture, right?
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>words words words
>has to pull out art from 2017 because he hasn't picked up a pen since then
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>>7419821
You need to learn to simply your sentences so it doesn't sound like pretentious slop.


>Theoretical Creativity (TC) and Pragmatic Creativity (PC):
TC: Using strict rules in creative ways for art or psychology.
PC: Creating art based on what's already popular or natural.
V, A, T: V is for visual art, A for sound, and T for taste. They're all important but not my main focus right now.

>The 'Cool Japan' Problem:
There's too much focus on one style of Japanese art (like anime) in the West, which stops other styles from growing because people are used to the one they know.

>yes
Scott McCloud's work starts to explore theoretical creativity, but it's not fully developed because it's not strict enough.
At its best, theoretical creativity aims to be as clear and exact as math, with no room for confusion or guesswork.
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>>7421861
I don't like redundancy and wasting energy. If I drew that girl, I could draw 100,000 more. I simply declare my potential for regulation and peer review purposes. Hard work will be done by a hypothetical future algorithm.

>>7422056
If you took the time to 'translate' my texts, it means you're interested in this? I’m not seeking a crown, but rather people who view my altruistic goals sympathetically.
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>I already drew my shitty cartoon, I don't need to draw more, I'm now a PhD and entitled to compete with Terrance Howard for the most insufferable retard award
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>>7421410
>While drawing in an anime-adjacent style
>anime
>™

Why does a remote island hold the 'monopoly' on 'cute and realistic'? A closed biform structure with an NS pattern is not inherently 'Japanese' just as zero is not Indian. But in a PC world, there's room for much foolishness and chauvinism—see: video game mechanics patents—TC has no flag, which is why it is beautiful.

>>7424689
To label something as shitty, you first need to define rules that determine the value of art. What are yours, beyond impersonal democratic laws? You may agree or disagree with me, but I’m honest and don’t regurgitate pseudo-laws just to be accepted by a delusional society.
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>>7413956
This drawing is fucking awesome
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>>7424759
Still talking around actually explaining TC
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>>7424685
Language is for communicating ideas. There's no need to filter out people might be interested by making things hard to read.
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>>7424685
Language is for communicating ideas. You just filter people by making things hard to read.

>>7419978
This anon did a better job than I did translating.
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>>7424759
Not gonna debate on this randomness. If this TC is worth a damn, it must have a set of clear principles... or drop a link or something.
Ill wait, but I won't hold my breath.
Also, lay off the bong water. Get it together.
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>>7413956
wow your style is good. Well done
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Engage in the act of orally stimulating my reproductive organ, OP.
Sage and hide.
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>>7413956
So what have you drawn lately?
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Talk about ego the size of the sun, you psycho-babble types are always annoying but I guess you at least have nice art
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ITT: Anon thinks his way in to rediscovering geometry and other math disciplines as artistic foundations. Somehow still ends up with cutesy school girls as a primary subject.
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>>7428876
Those drawings are from a time before the harshness of reality drove me crazy x__x
They're a reminder of the sanity I once had

>>7424767
:)

>>7425759
͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

>>7428351
Don't get me wrong... in other contexts I'm pretty chill. But TC requires arrogance and autism.

>>7427675
picrel
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>>7428961
spoopy
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>>7413956
your style reads young sudamerican anime design portfolio. if you're going to write a book on inherent style and the artistic process keep it separate from your art because it's not reflective and you might reach your superficial destiny goal of "founding" a loose creative approach. most of your points are antithetical or unresolved. the work is fine but not "rigorous" beyond scott mccloud or something, focus less on self discrepancy

>CAPTCHA: H000MY
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>>7424759
>'Why does a remote island hold the 'monopoly' on 'cute and realistic'?' Sentiment

Arguably Leads to
>The Japanese are culturally invading the West.

As you call it. To put it vaguely.
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>>7421400
no, the west is allowing its own cultural integrity and prominence to falter which is creating a power vacuum that allows others to take over. japslop doesn't even need to intend a takeover, the people have been starved of any real art, and are looking for any piece of crumb.

you also need to stop being a pretentious twat
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>>7428961
blog?
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>>7419821
tl;dr
Art for autists.
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>>7419821
Anon with such verbose vocabulary I like to ask if your also a soul that finds gastral reflexes the pinnacle of artistic expression
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>>7434226
As I said in another comment: practically everything is art, but not all art is good art. Most of the conceptual art vomited on the wall is trash, but sometimes something sticks and is genuinely interesting.
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>>7434274
carry on, you have my undivided attention now
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>>7413956
this looks like AI shit
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>>7434302
Not really



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