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The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>7404732

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
https://e-hentai.org/g/2042453/83e7da6ed0/
Making Comics
https://annas-archive.org/md5/d55168f7579c1e23275d1fc9f0a2255d
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
https://annas-archive.org/md5/2877da11e2f852d220853e9944e6ea49
Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwriting
https://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/
Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga
https://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdf
The Shonen Jump Guide to Making Manga
https://mega.nz/file/i81imLpI#GcheJ9Jjk3lw1RE9nQWgL4RG4wEBNOcRmgA-iaU6Wpg

Videos:
"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"
Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videos
Full MANBEN Series link: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0GiIM_rGEGPjTGQ4HadH4eizLu5E49Tz&si=gpRcOXt_H1l3shNF [Note: Videos appear to be taken down at the moment]
Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videos

Source of OP image is Anatolia Story Volume 17.
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>>7414377
Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Iconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/)
>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press
>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration
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>>7414379
Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/
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>>7414382
Current Contests:

Silent Manga Audition 22 "Seized With Rage":
https://www.manga-audition.com/

Worldless World Manga Contest:
https://wordlessmanga.com/eng.html

Global Comics Awards 2024:
https://en.mangadraft.com/contests/global-comic-awards-2024.en

Webtoons 2025 Contest:
https://www.webtoons.com/en/notice/detail?noticeNo=3321

Mangano:
https://manga-no.com/mangano_award_1st#rules

/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9
(Anthology project is defunct but the discord is alive)

Additional community added Resources:
Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videos
Ganmo, a job listing board for manga assistant work: https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/posts

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.
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I didn't expect last thread to last through the day yesterday
so a bit late, but I managed to crank out a last second little Christmas manga
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>>7414396
Adorable
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Drawing on my phone is a pain in the ass, so I had to go buy a notebook. I'm gonna use this time away from home to come up with some character design ideas for Sunburn
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>>7414412
Forgot the pic
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>>7414412
unfortunately thinking of art supplies, my current plans include returning some to the store
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>waiting for the r/a/dio anons to come
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>>7414412
I don't know what sunburn is, but a notepad is the best alternative when you don't have a tablet.
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>>7414598
>I don't know what Sunburn is
Oh that's my manga/comic
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>>7414630
Ah its you, ok didn't have a title. Your pen/paper work looks much better
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>>7414396
pages are -> but panels are <-?
funny little comic anyways, I loled
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>>7414996
I did consider trying to format it to match reading order, but I just said fuck it and left it in regular page order
figured it would be easy enough to follow anyway
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>manga making general
how did you guys year in manga making go?
what are your plans for this year?
I did dismally in 2024 but I plan to do sugoku sugoi next year.
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>>7415070
I don't know if it counts if I only started this month but I'm attempting to make my very first comic. I usually draw by painting directly onto the sketch so I'm finding it very hard to stick to a fully monochrome format. Are most people in this general only making comics rather than illustrations or nah.
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>>7414569
If you're the anon that recommended coming here for advice, then I should thank you. I doubt I would have found this place by myself. I'm the anon who that mentioned that rough draft idea. I'll be lurking around but if I'm having any trouble getting started I'll know where to ask at least. For now I just need to brush up on my drawing skills and hopefully get to travel aboard for some research for the setting.
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>>7415070
Wrote and drew 3 stories, first store was one page, second one two pages, and third one also two pages. I started drawing manga a couple months ago. I'll have more to show by next year I'm sure.

Here's a random page of my (5) completed pages.
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>>7415070
Went from storyboarding to actually drawing and in terms of actual inking I've gone through page 1 to page 70 (so about 60% done). Currently working on page 71; these complex panels with everyone in them interacting with one another can be such a bitch sometimes lol. At least I've got about 15 pages of a fight scene coming up tho, so that'll be exciting.
>>7415150
Very nice and very cute. Love her outfit.
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>>7415140
Glad you make it anon, yes it was me, and i hope to see your advances, and don't doubt to ask anything, will be glad to help
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>>7415070
>set deadline to March 2nd
>finish august 15th
>fail miserably on November 1st
>still struggling to draw more
At least i almost finish the new cover
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If I step back now I may keep what is left of my sanity
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>>7415257
OMG it's maya!!!! And ta-chan
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>>7415259
maya is about to plap plap get pregnant
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>>7415181
How long are you spending on the cover? For my first 2 covers they took multiple days, each.
I hate that. So I now try and limit a cover to 8 hours of drawing, not including the idea phase.
And I hope to turn that 8 into a 5 some day
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>>7415070
It's been alright. A slow growth in readers, but some of the readers I do get seem pretty vocal and DM me haha. Here's a spoiler for February
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>>7415300
You shouldn't count on me for a good answer, due my phisical condition i take way too long to draw things, this cover sketch is from the last week of november, and the picture i post was done on december 18th, i had been bit bussy too and had to take some days in between to rest my arm and i also draw slowy too
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>>7415350
I thought those were onesies
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>>7414569
I'm also here but I'll be mostly lurking around. Thanks for pointing me here.
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>>7415350
You get dms?
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>>7415350
you get readers?
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>>7415300
NTA you were responding to - while I see what you're getting at, my personal stance is that while a slow project can with active and diligent work eventually become good, a rushed/compromised project will likely come out not as good as you wanted. If you're not under a publisher's deadline, don't kill yourself over worrying how long something takes.

>>7415400
>>7415410
You don't? I don't have as many readers as other comics/mangas do but even I still get DMs.
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>>7415424
Which sites do you post
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>>7415424
All the usual ones listed from time to time on /mmg/. Mangadraft, Mangadex, GlobalComix, INKR, Tapas, Webtoons, MangaPlus, Pixiv, social media sites, Comicfury, etc.
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>>7415431
Whoops, >>7415434 was meant to respond to you.
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>>7415070
pretty good, got a huge spike in followers from my other art which is trafficing more eyes to my work. I also got lot of really cool reviews from random people and made new fans. I didn't get to finish my oneshot due to a lack of supplies alongside awful holiday timing but it's all good, I will catch back up with that one soon. Besides that I hit a lot of new milestones, made some stuff I really like, and have made goals to make some cheap printed stuff to share around next year.
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>>7415495
>cheap printed stuff to share
???
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>>7415502
Floppy paperback magazines, printed on cheap paper. My plan with this was to do a bit of rogue marketing but also to just give to friends for free or sell at some of our local shops.
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>>7415507
Exactly my plan as well
We need a Western doujinshi market scene, a convention
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>>7415507
>Floppy paperback magazines
Filled with various stories you've made or...?
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>>7415070
>wrote story
>planned out panels
>got 4 pages sketched
>hard drive death in october
>lost a shit load but not all work on those pages
I just haven't had the heart to return to the project since. Still come here every so often to lurk
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>>7415257
First time using screentones, I should've used it more before.
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>>7415567
Just have a backup somewhere anon, we talked about this with you then at the time too.
>>7415568
*squints*
Altarusia anon....?
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>>7415568
Screentines are like cheating. They make anything look good
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>>7415571
>Altarusia anon....?
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>>7415573
Might as well say anything that isn't manual hatching is cheating then, at that point.
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>>7415568
Looking good anon


Such a shame my mc doesn't wear his full school uniform, because is based in the seven sister one
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>>7415579
The best uniform in the series in my opinion
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>>7415547
Yes? I'd happily use it to promo my friends works too if they had any. I would have had 3 different stories to round out the content but I ran out of paper ._.

>>7415514
We have comic con! ha. But really forget manga- I don't think we don't have enough normal american comic artists for that sort of specialized event. That's the dream though. I'd really just love to meet more comic artists in general.
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>>7415070
Professional career is finally taking off, but personal life started to collapse and take time away from drawing manga. Somehow it always feels like I'm racing an invisible clock to get the hell out of this place before it's too late.

>>7415514
You mean indie comics? There is a scene.

>>7415573
I wish.
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>>7415628
>but personal life started to collapse and take time away from drawing manga. Somehow it always feels like I'm racing an invisible clock
Same here but for different reasons as I'm not trying to make it as a pro, I just might have significantly less time to draw my story, which still really stinks.
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>>7415628
Patreon is not a scene. I mean a place like comiket where independent creators get the spotlight instead of being stuffed away behind all the billion dollar corporate propaganda
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>>7415070
My art and comic making abilities improved a lot. Followers I got very few but I did some friends.
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>>7415578
I'm just saying that screentones have a specific look to them that is very pleasing to look at at. I wasn't demeaning that anon's work btw
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>>7415640
>I wasn't demeaning that anon's work btw
Nah no worries mate I didnt think you were going at that angle lol.
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>>7415635
Why would you assume only Patreon? That might be one of the worst instances anyway. Crowdfunding like Indiegogo and Kickstarter are way better for indie comics, and even anime conventions where you can set up to sell your stuff there too.

The issue is that there isn't really a dedicated space for selling original works. In the west, people talk about how they really want to support small, independent artists and creators, but it rarely actually translates to foot traffic and sales. Especially since, while people SAY they want to support small artists, they're often the same people who would rather just pirate or read stuff online than actually support it anyway.
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I need to draw something else after this chapter, I want to draw cute girls.
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>>7415695
>I want to draw cute girls.
Another one for the mmg- Marvelous and Merry Girls- Club
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>>7415657
To support indie comics, there would have to be indie comics worth supporting
If all they offer is
>liberal propaganda grandstanding horseshit (it's -insert superhero-, but a BLACK WOMAN!)
>conservative reactionary trend grifting (EVS and his buddies)
>Shallow, cheap bumper-sticker fodder (Abraham Lincoln but he's a VAMPIRE HUNTER! lol XD )
>droning, boring, navel-gazing autobiography about depression and the author's dad dying or some shit
>Naruto/DBZ/One Piece but badly drawn and with the serial numbers filed off (mostly south americans here)

There is nothing in the indie scene that deserves money or attention
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>>7414377
Does anyone have a time-lapse of a manga page being made by a pro?
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>>7415711
True, but those are really only all you find all you're looking in is the puddle that is /co/ and reddit.

That's why some sort of indie convention or some such would be nice, but how do you get people (ie: Potential buyers interested in the stories) involved or interested. The biggest problem is the first two, especially in the US, but also by extension, the west, because every single movie, comic, book, cartoon, etc. seems like it has to be vetted over whether it has some political agenda or message attached to it. That's why so many (more) people turned to anime/manga in the first place, because the East is far less beholden to those shallow political ideologies which largely exist to one-up the other side for cheap "gotchas."

Your third point is whatever, and I don't think those examples are as prominent and you're making them out to be.

Fourth point is mostly just the doomer, le quirky reddit/tumblr/twitter comics that are more like newspaper strips geared to a "relatable normalfag" audience.

Final point....well, you could find a lot of people who will tell you that modern shounen (Demon Slayer, CSM, modern Dragonball) is already poorly drawn and heavily derivative of the shounen from 15, 20 years ago, never mind the actual amateur stuff coming out from indie hopefuls.
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>>7415711
>>7415728
But anyway, a lot of that is to say that if there were some sort of actual "scene" for indie creators to come together for some sort of convention, or even put out anthologies or zines, or books collecting the works of a bunch of creators, that'd be cool. Unfortunately, for as many people as would say they'd like that, I just don't think there would be the turnout of readers/buyers. Stuff like this always gets thrown out there as a possible prospect, but lots of artists just don't seem receptive to the idea, and consumers on paper and in theory say they want it, but then don't actually want to buy into it.

VIZ at one point in the early 2000s started bringing over the Shounen Jump magazines, which you'd think would be something kind of near and people would be into, but I don't think it really translated into sales of that type of format so they shitcanned it after just a few years, IIRC.

Its like, everyone loves the idea as theory, but when someone tries to put it into physical practice, artists, contributors, and even the buyers/people interested all seem to back away for some weird reason.
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>>7415711
>Shallow, cheap bumper-sticker fodder (Abraham Lincoln but he's a VAMPIRE HUNTER! lol XD )
>tfw that's essentially what I'm doing

Welp...I'm already in too deep.
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>>7415695
>I want to draw cute girls.
You motherfucker, you send me on a loop, now i wanna draw my villainess with her worn out suit, bite mark on her tits, pubic hair here and there, and sweaty, with drops of baby batter all over the place


Hope you're proud of yerself
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>>7415715
>timelapse
No, but here's a bunch of real time ones.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXX6Rv-0il3cSNYTh40IgPQ boichi
https://www.youtube.com/user/minorukara/videos akihito tsukushi
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeySBnV71dyC-gwqapq9NwQ/videos akihito yoshito>
https://www.youtube.com/user/yoshikadu2011/videos yoshikazu hamada
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXg1pcBb1Ldkb5qEbqIzEzw/videos yusuke murata
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeOwge9dpSo1yter3SRfejI2rXchTL5_d more y>
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcZW6qamlZ2u0DgXzHyaDJA haruhisa nakata
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIhPflgXxYM9dsOzaI0sYgA Sumito Ōwara
rando assistants
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmsbE4qxBwHBYDponyB4TqA fto
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnRYIxmep1EAcD07ZdwzRTw kenta
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>>7415738
shit dude, all I said was cute girls
I can't take responsibility for all that
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>>7415773
take responsibility, a bow if you will
the image THAT anon put in my head is great, and he put those words out cuz of you
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>>7415434
>Mangadraft
Looks like I'm making a French version of my comic. Thanks for this anony.
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>>7415695
>I want to draw cute girls.
One of us! ONE OF US!
>>7415728
>>7415711
There is also the underlying issue that many people are in love with the idea of supporting indie scenes/artists but when it comes time to open the pocketbook suddenly they're all skint and come up with a million and one reasons why they can't give money right now. It's infuriating since it's not like we're just sitting on the side of a roadway begging for free money, we ARE making actual products here. The ease in which your average person can just open up Twitter and the like and get virtually infinite free art via comparison really kills us here.
>>7415786
>making a French version of my comic
Yes, if you're gonna be uploading to Mangadraft do be sure to actually get it hosted in French. Don't do what I did, which was host my comic in English. French people being French people, they immediately turn their nose up at the slightest hint of English and your comic ain't gonna pull those views.
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>>7415795
>frogs being pretentious faggots
Nothing new there
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>>7415573
As someone who cant shade, I 100% agree.
Made my beetle look a helluva lot better
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>>7415795
>>7415797
Nta but i hate french so much, that i started to think i was one in my past life
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>>7415847
Maybe you were once beheaded at the behest of Robespierre.
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>>7415857
Wait a minute i havee shit teeth and i like tea
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>>7415578
Pointilism is also allowed under the rules.
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>>7415795
>>7415797
>>7415847
I will be the devil's advocate here and say Japan is also the same but you dont hate it for doing that
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>>7415876
Japan earned it, what has France ever done for anybody?
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>>7415882
They did good things like spread bureaucracy and women rights across the wor- Oh, nevermind...
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>>7415876
You know what, one of the main reasons i hate France, is exactly because people often glorify liking france, but you are weirdo weeb if you like japan
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>>7415876
I'm half japanese.
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>>7415922
finally, half chink mutt solidarity
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>>7415956
I was raised semi racist against the chinks, but mostly towards filipinos
So we cool.
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>>7416051
unironically how bad are the chances of making it if one is full chink, do they really hate them that much over there??
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>>7415747
Thank you anon
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>>7415876
The main difference here is that a lot of Japanese cannot read english well at all even if you did get one who didn't mind reading an english comic, whereas all the French can very easily read English but they act like they can't at all in order to bitch some more.
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>>7416112
It isn't impossible. Sayori, the creator of the Nekopara games and other stuff, was born in China and only later on moved to live in Japan.
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>>7414377
Any Americans who can answer this question? He's a Japanese animator who just recently started making manga. This is the manga he's currently working on (a short series that runs in Harta magazine every two months)
https://mangadex.org/title/be2fc198-1e57-419b-976f-6c77f3adc316/gensho-x-chotsune-gensho-sosaroku
https://x.com/waiwaiburanko3/status/1872993010436497564
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Kaouru Mori's pencil/shading process
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>>7416178
Interesting she does the feathering first, most American inkers I've seen do block inks then feather the edges
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>>7416181
Does it matter for the end result? Genuine question
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>>7416181
excuse the rotation
>>7416194
probably a process thing? the comic inker (iirc) said he does it so he can do fill ins and white out/corrections to the feathering in one go
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>>7416207
Interesting, I have a hard time with hair and clothes but I usually fill first. I will try it the other way around to see if it's any better for me.
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>>7416176
They do in Europe for sure, it might be even worse in the U.S.
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>>7416362
In America you go to your local pharmacist and purchase what you need. That is how you purchase drugs. Pharmacists are professional drug dealers. I hope this answer helps you! :))))))))
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>>7415786
I might take the time one afternoon or two and use DeepL or some other software to translate my comic fully into Fr*nch and then upload it to Mangadraft. Since it's a mainstream Romance language issues with translation should ideally be kept on the downlow.
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>>7416051
oh I was using that as a general term for asians. I'm a half korean, not chinese. When I was a teen I was talking about chinese people with my korean student friends and they had no filter, so this little petit lady just smiles and tells me "chinese eat anything". This was back in 2009, so way before this kind of rhetoric was widespread. I don't hate the chinese too badly either, i've gotten along with chinese ive known but flips are another story. The last flip lady I knew was a piece of work.

>>7416160
Boichi, too

>>7416207
I always admire clean beautiful work like this, I have never had the mechanical skill or patience for it which lead me to leaning into drawing things messy and gritty. Love to see things like this.
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>>7416471
Wasn't Boichi from South Korea?
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>>7416479
I think that's what i'm implying yes, he's a foreigner.
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Being a bifag sucks, I hyperfocus on drawing hot women AND hot guys.
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>>7416471
>>7415922
Wait a minute. Just how many hapas do we have in /mmg/?! ARE THE ASIAN JEANS IN THE THREAD WITH US RIGHT NOW? IS THIS WHY SOME OF YOU DRAW BRETTY GUD?! SON OF A BITCH.
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>>7416471
I'm also half Korean B)
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Too mentally tired to draw at the moment so I'm instead slowly translating all my chapters into Frog and cross-comparing the results between Google Translate and DeepL. I forget just how insanely long some words can be in other languages sometimes.
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>>7416617
Why someone would waste time into translating something into french instead of japanese? Why anon, why?
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>>7416559
>it was /ajg/ all along
Black pilling.
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>>7416646
Because French is a Romance language and thus it's way easier to cross-check across various translation sites.
For Japanese I am going to be working with an actual flesh-and-blood professional Japanese translator who also offers minor editing/typesetting services so that all the Japanese fits nicely within the speech bubbles. The translator has already been in talks with me and is simply waiting for me to give them the files to provide me with a finalized quote (which I will do once I am done with my current chapter).
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>>7416559
My parents don't know where it comes from. My mom is not really an ambitious person and there are no known artists on either side of my family. My whole life i've probably destroyed more trees than a housing development with my paper consumption.

>>7416585
ORLY? This is the reason I set this comic (Funny Burger) in Korea (minus the demons) my goal with this was to use it as an outlet for my experiences, nostalgia, and just wanting to rep my origins. Maybe in the future I might even squeeze in some jabs at things I DISLIKE too.

Eventually I want to translate it and I have made one shy attempt, because naturally i'm nervous about how correct it it. My mom is the only person who could honestly doublecheck my translations and she's ultra omega christian so she won't even look at it. This could have been avoided if she chose to teach me the language, but she didn't so here we are.
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>>7416657
Isn't learning Hangul relatively easy compared to the other east asian languages....?
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>>7416662
I can read hangul fine, but it's just one part of the language lol. In reality the part I struggle with the most is pronounciation, which isn't all straightforward. The other part is just the lack of helpful resources compared to other languages like japanese. It's funny to admit learning japanese might actually be easier once you get past kanji.
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>>7416559
>>7416653
I think some other /mmg/ anon mentioned a long while back about being half-Chinese, don't remember who...
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>>7416656
French is called the romance language because it sounds like if you were gargling a cock, not because it sounds romantic you dumb fuck
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>>7416744
"Romance language" as in it's derived from Latin, not because it's a romantic language dude.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages
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>>7416744
Anon, romance language because its from one of the languages which emerged from Roman Latin...
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>>7415711
protip: your "manga" is an indie comic
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>>7416763
I think that anon is speaking about general trends overall, not that those are the only indie comics in existence. Even if everyone in /mmg/ got together to release their works the total output would be like a single drop of water in an ocean of piss.
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>>7416181
It's because a assistent fill in the blacks.
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>>7416773
*an assistent
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>>7416657
Do we have the same mother lol
Your art looks dope, I love that you're incorporating so much into your comic. Being half is a weird experience, man.
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>>7416657
I wish we had more comics that drew upon the artists culture for inspiration, instead of shit set in 'yew nork city'.
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>>7416839
So where does this place japanese artists depicting modern day Japan then lol
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>>7416786
Thanks, I appreciate that a lot, I know my artwork doesn't come across as totally conventional, my influences are not conventional, and sometimes comes off as dated by other people's standards because I don't like a lot of "new stuff". I tend to gravitate towards older manga (Blue Heaven, Alice in Hell, Ciguatera, etc those are just some of my favorite reads)
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>>7416866
I'm older and don't really keep up with a lot of new stuff, so I appreciate the style. Keep up the good work.
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What's up with filipinos? are they the venecos of asia?
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>>7416839
>he says in a thread dedicated to desperately emulating japanese tropes
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>>7416559
I mean, I'm half jap as I said, but I don't draw anime. Guess I kinda dropped the ball there.
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>>7416883
>Are Filipinos the "Venezuelans who migrated to Columbia" of Asia?
?????????????
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>>7416853
I've seen enough of that country. I'm moving onto other shit.
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>/mmg/ - Mhapas and Mbrazilians General
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>>7416903
Mainlandchina and Macacos General
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>>7416866
>older manga
>Blue Heaven, Alice in Hell, Ciguatera
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>>7416999
2 decades ago certainly isn't newer manga.
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>>7417005
Everything made after 2004 is exactly the same
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>>7417009
Read something that wasn't printed in shounen jump.
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>>7417005
it kinda is when series go on for like 30 years
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I have two scripts and I can't decide what to draw first, I've changed my mind a dozen times this week. One is a 40 page crime drama and its basically finished. The other is a heist comedy, it's around 100 pages now but will be over 200 when it's done. I like the longer script more and I could break it into 20-page chapters, but I feel like getting the 40 page one out of the way first would be a better idea.
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Chapter 1 successfully hon-hon-hon'd. Still need to export into smaller jpeg/png files for hosting on Mangadraft, but at least the translating work is done.
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>>7417120
Show me some other translations. I want to see how well it worked.
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so earlier I grabbed this book at the store
figured it would be a fun thing to work in quickly
now I gotta actually put my brain to use to know how to fill it
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>>7417136
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>>7417136
>>7417156
And here's one more for three pics in total to give you a sense.
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>>7417156
>>7417159
That's honestly impressive and more formal than a lot of native speakers who prefer a more informal speech. Does the "only ones" at the bottom of your second pic only refer to women? If yes, you'll have to change "seuls" to "seules".
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>>7417176
>more formal than a lot of native speakers who prefer a more informal speech
Well, therein lies the problem with machine translations. I admit it obviously isn't perfect but I'm more doing this just to have the second language quickly available for Mangadraft purposes than anything else.
>Does the "only ones" at the bottom of your second pic only refer to women?
Fortunately no, but thank you for looking out for me regardless.
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Kek I cant stop laughing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP9I9TsMQ1M
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does anyone have this or can get it for me pls gumroad is being a bitch

https://whytmanga.gumroad.com/l/manga-page-templates?layout=profile
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>>7416176
Another animator is making manga. Weiling Zhang (Heavenly Delusion Opening Animation Director) made a manga + indie anime film for the ending of the story.
https://x.com/Xenophoss/status/1873222712119967922
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>>7417321
The manga's protagonist (Clair). The title "I'll of you" sound like I love you when pronounced in Japanese. I'm interested to see the sample of his manga.
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>>7416362
The only way i've seen personally in burger land is through word of mouth/by introduction, and then they do delivery. I suspect that's the norm for any mid or upper class users, we've got suburban sprawl to deal with and normal people don't want to walk around the areas where people loiter on corners.
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>>7416757
>>7416758
It was a joke to shit on france, I'm sorry that it wasn't funny
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>>7417325
>The title "I'll of you" sound like I love you when pronounced in Japanese.

Kinda sounds like they're trying to do a To Love Ru thing.
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>>7417316
go check on kemono
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>>7417327
Normal people dont do illegal drugs, anon.
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>>7417273
Screentones be helping you out like you said. Looks good mate, but don't end up leaving off practicing your shading with regular black inking though. All skills should be practiced!
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>>7417054
do the short one, it's a no brainer
by the time you're on page 100, you'll realize all the ways you fucked the first chapter, might as well get a head start
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>>7417481
>but don't end up leaving off practicing your shading with regular black inking though.
Altarusia will be all black and white so I will never stop it
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>when the idea for combining 3 disparate genres you've been trying to make work for years suddenly just clicks together with one simple change
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>>7417780
>just make them japanese high school girls
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>>7417351
its not on kemono you cant even make requests or youll get banned
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>>7415711
my webcomic in all categories btw
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>>7417316
Did you really just come into the thread asking for money?
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>>7417780
>Just turn the guys into girls
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>>7417780
>>7417841
>>7418139
https://youtu.be/6ZkNdIeJPuo?si=XB7FlO1FE_CB8f0M
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My first comic on MPC.

https://medibang.com/mpc/episodes/kl2412301130495570026923030/
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>>7418157
Cute thus far.
>witch australia
Lol
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I did not work on my comic today.... but that's okay! crazy how the human brain would rather goon to porn instead of draw for half as long.
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>>7418176
this holiday season has been killing me
the desire to draw manga is building up hard, but I'm having trouble finding the spark to make it blow up
my blood is absolutely boiling...
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>>7418182
I'm the same, I can't take a vacation but I don't have the energy to sink hours into drawing. Just drawing for 30 minutes or something won't achieve anything as I'd have to do redo it later since there was no flow or cohesion.
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>>7418193
for me it's more, I drew so much for Christmas in particular, it feels like my body is forcing me to slow down
I don't feel many great new ideas coming to me, I'm just trying to think of something
most things I draw right now feel lackluster even to me, I just feel like there has to be a breakthrough on the horizon, but I can't find something to light the fuse...
it's that challenging time in the cycle, I suppose...
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>>7418176
I didn't draw today either - instead opted to get chapter 2 translated. Now for just one more and then I can start the exporting process into flat jpgs/pngs.
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>>7418157
Fun chapter
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>>7418247
Thank you. It's a mix of Australia and America
Aus-merica or Am-strailia I guess.
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next year, i will start my manga.
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>>7418509
start now
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>>7418556
This. No point in waiting
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>>7418556
>>7418563
Same way with how I feel about people who actually treat new years resolutions like an actual thing. Why do tou have to wait for an arbitrary time designation to self-improve? If you need to do something, start doing it already. Don't be fucking lazy and use the year-line as a copout to do nothing.
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What do guys think about ctrl c-ing and ctrl v-ing panels? If two characters are talking and they are in the same pose during the back and forth of the camera, is okay to take a shortcut ins't it, as long as it's not too obvious?
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>>7418699
The same character should have at least some kind of slight variation to show "progression" in the talking. It doesn't have to be much, but you should have something there.
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>>7418699
If your character does not change expression or is not doing anything else during the dialogue, then increase the size of the panel and include all the necessary dialogue in the same one.

Multiple panels of the exact same (or slightly different, but narratively insignificant ) panels is an instantly turn off
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>>7418699
>>7418761
00's comics did that a lot
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>>7418847
>that woman's face
>O_O for three panels
So lazy.
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>>7418157
Fun expressions
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>>7418847
Coincidentally the same time comics went to shit
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>>7418861
Not to mention the guy looks the exact same in the first and last panel
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>>7415070
so-so
actually, not theat great.
I was going to do a lewd fan comic, but my grandpas condition worsened and I had to move in with him for a few months. Can't really be drawing that in that situation, so I shelved that for now.

Then I was going to draw a full oneshot for this https://www.jump-mangasho.com/award/next-generation-battle-2/ (I just wanted feedback and the mileage), but I could barely spend more than half an hour on it most days, so I only got the storyboard down earlier this month. Since I lack assistants and skill alike I gave up on completing it in the given timeframe, but that's kind of a blessing in disguise. Without the time pressure behind me I noticed everything that's wrong with it and I can now include stuff I wanted to but couldnt due to page count limit, so I can keep this on the backburner as I do some projects that only go for 3-5 pagesd at a time
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>>7418699
my thought is to copy paste the sketch layer, then ink each panel separately. that will give you minute differences
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>>7418899
This is what I do. Never full on copy pasted, but traced over. This is what I noticed in the mangas I read did.
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>>7418847
I thought about doing that but I didn't want to give people a wall of text for each panel. Plus, it also looks too lazy and uninteresting. When I said I was going to copy and paste and I didn't mean I was going to do it one panel next to each other like that. The characters will be sitting at a table getting a briefing of their mission. I will make each panel using a different camera angle. The copied panel would only show up two pages after the original panel I copied it from. I'm sure the average viewer won't notice unless they're purposefully looking for something like that
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>>7419007
I would honestly just do a full page of the table with everyone at it and fit all the dialog onto that
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>>7419011
The characters will be making a lot of facial expressions and moving around, so I can't do that.
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>>7419015
Something I've seen japanese authors do is splice a single illustration with border panels. It gives the illusion of a sequence just fine, though it doesnt work for every composition. I wish I had a handy example of this ready to post
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>>7417273
What a cheesy porn plot
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>>7418699
Only make full copies if it's part of the joke. You're making a joke about yourself being a lazy fuck.
I recall Sam and Silo being the first comic to agressively use copying machines to save artist work, and it was back in the 1970s. The artist had a template he'd run through the company xerox machine and then draw/whiteout what needed changing for the joke.
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>>7419145
I remember some webcomic doing the same thing
It was like 4 panels with dinosaurs, and they never moved, just the joke would change
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>>7419007
In my eyes the biggest problem with something like this is you're just robbing yourself of experience. You get a little better every drawing and the shortcuts will add up.

>>7419096
I do this sometimes. Usually to indicate a scene transition between pages. Like a fade out.
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So, i want to do a little extras to post and see if i can get more readers until i can post the next version of my work, so i wondered if this is like good or funny enough

-alright, you are awfully quiet today
+me?...
+nah, is just that i keep thinking about what happened the other day
-and what was it?
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>>7419374
These are just the page sketches, that i haven't been able to do more since i had a little re lapse on my hand
+well... do you remeber the outbreak (or any word fitting for a monster rampage) of the other day?
-you were there? That really had to suck
+kinda, but i keep thinking about this one guy that got caught while screaming
-shhh, that has to be hard, are you sure don't have ptsd?
+what?! No, i was wondering if that count as a kiss
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>>7418699
I have a personal rule to only copy/paste the sketches, not the line work.
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drawing kiss is difficult
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>>7419458
Very
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>>7419458
Who is kissing?
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>>7419458
no it isnt
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akeome

>>7417718
it makes sense to do it that way, but I'm still not decided. Now I'm out of time too, I have to pick one and draw something.
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>>7418866
csm does it a lot too
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>>7419551
I thought Fujimotor drew everything by hand even if it looks the same?
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>>7417137
drawing rough sketches for the cover on this
I think this one is the best so far, but I still gotta get more going on it
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>>7418157
lol I love that you went with the simple cover art from your earlier meme
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>>7419607
Good catch.
You wanna know what's crazy is I did that as an experiment, and I got the most views from it. Beating all the other comics in the same timeframe.

Compare that to tapas and webtoons, where I used the try hard cover.... which got a combined total of 5 views in the same time period.
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>>7419606
Sketches look great anon. You keep improving
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>>7419612
I think that manga plus creators count the pages per view instead of just views, although i could be wrong.
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>>7419636
Maybe. It's gotta be something, because there is no way I got real views here.
I had more views on MPC than I had on my old comic for 11 months combined on 3 sites.
I figured it was bots
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>>7419589
that sounds worse, but considering how little effort he puts in, I kinda doubt it
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Here's hoping next year makes more sense, this year was an endless mess.
https://tapas.io/episode/3389681
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>>7417316
Gumroad is being an ass for me too. It wouldnt let me sub to MATI.
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I did the math and it seems like I'll have around 36 hours a week to draw once I get back to work. At my current speed, I'd only be able to do a page and a half a week at most, unless I'm doing really simple scenes. This sucks
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How the fuck am I supposed to draw consistent environments in fantasy setting? For modern stuff finding references is easy or you can just use your imagination/visual library and common sense...
>want to draw a village from different angles
>what kind of buildings do I draw
>how would they be located relative to each other
>how do they look on the inside/how many rooms they are
Not to mention bigger buildings like mansions or castles with complicated floor plans, am I supposed to autistically research and do studies of that stuff for a year before starting anything?
Even scifi seems easier to bullshit my way through.
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>>7419813
Anon there is A LOT of movies, tv shows and video games set in a fantasy setting. I'm pretty sure you can references for it there. Read Berserk. There's a lot of good stuff there
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>>7419802
Sounds like it's time to make compromises! Just like a pro!

>>7419813
Well, go in with a plan. Don't just wing it every time. Give yourself a rough layout to work from. Use your imagination. Make unconventional combinations. Be creative.
Of course, don't go too crazy, you shouldn't need super detailed production material in the same way you wouldn't take class notes in academic prose.
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>>7419802
bro, if that page takes you 20 hours, you need to re-examine your process
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>>7419828
Lol. It's called being a begginer. I had never drawn mountains before, nor snowmobiles or spaceship wreckages. Every single one of those things took a lot of researching and studying.
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>>7419474
Im trying
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>>7419676
I gotcha anon, i had low expectation for this year, hut somehow ended being worse that i thought
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>>7419676
Btw anon, how did you make that pixalated censor effect
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>>7420026
With the pixelation blur, should be next to the gaussian one.
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>>7420039
On csp or other program, because i was looking into filters and none got that effect
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>>7420048
In my program it's filter -> blur -> pixelize.
And my other options are, "blur", gaussian and selective gaussian blurs.
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>>7419813
>draw consistent environments in fantasy setting
My humble two cents - fantasy environments seem daunting at first since you have less immediately available to rely on but it frankly isn't that different than simply planning things out like how you'd do your characters. What worked for me personally was:
>look at your characters and how they are already dressed
>think about what setting they are in story/universe-wise (what is the real-world analogue, generally speaking, regarding predominant culture and technology?)
>what makes sense for the XYZ place that you are trying to depict (is it grand? is it war-torn? is it a personal space? is it a town square or a grand meeting hall?)
>does the architectural style match your characters, like you could really see them walking around there?
>and lastly, does it look at least a little interesting such that the reader would want to know more about the place? if you think the background/environment is boring, then your reader will also think it is boring as well

>Not to mention bigger buildings like mansions or castles with complicated floor plans
Unless it's somehow related to the plot itself or would somehow cause an average normie reader to go "wtf", I'd think that you don't have to even remotely stress about this beyond the most cursory understanding of the general layout of the place. Besides, it's a fantasy setting - unless your depiction is beyond ridiculous/nonsensical who is to say that XYZ group wouldn't build a fantasy building in such a fashion or style?
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>>7419606
4th rough, I think this is gonna be it
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>>7420085
nice detail using the screentone for the girls shadows
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>>7419802
That's my current speed too, but not because I draw every day. Its more like I'll have a burst of drawing 3 pages in a day, and then for the rest of the week I can't even look at my comic without feeling nauseous.
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>>7419813
what I do is open a game or something and take screenshots from different angles, and then keep them for reference. You only need a few, and take multiple screenshots of the same angle but moved very slightly, so you have choices when its time to draw.
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cover is inked
no clue how I plan to color it
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>>7419813
I don't know what type of fantasy setting you're going for but there are plenty of Medieval and renaissance artists who were painting what they saw. I always prefer to use this sort of stuff over videogames or movies.
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Happy New Years /mmg/

Ill catch you all tomorrow, nice and hungover
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>>7420263
You son of a bitch I audibly laughed out loud when I saw your pic kek.
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>>7420263
HAPPAS DON'T COUNT LOL
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>>7420263
Jokes on you, even the Japs want gaijin manga now.
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>>7420304
Hapas get ya hapas here, we got all the hapas you could want. We got grorious nipppn hapas, we got worst korea hapas, we even got a chinaman hapa. Hapas good enough thanks to eastern moonrunes to draw better than your average artist but still don't have enough asian jeans to be fully dressed on both legs!
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>>7420307
I'd trade every happa in this thread for a best korea happa
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>>7420310
https://youtu.be/1emKJ14mAuQ?si=jQczBK-YWSQHAKD0
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>>7415350
what screentone is that?
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>>7419972
next year I'll continue
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>>7420263
keek very good
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>>7420329
that was a question i had for a while too. the tone I use is Deleter Jr 132, the bigger version is Deleter SE-194. As far as I've been able to dig up it's sometimes nicknamed basketone or shark pattern. CSP has their own which isn't free, and so does digital IC screen. But I don't remember their model number for it. I also don't know how different it is if any value or density wise.
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>>7419813
You gotta do some concept art if you want to make an original setting
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>>7420263
>didn't make this years anon jump
ill try harder 2025
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>>7420449
I believe in you anon!!!!
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happy new year/feliz ano novo

I noticed this year I drew 4 chapters in total and one unfinished.
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>>7420475
I did 4 and a half pages in 4 months
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>>7415747
It bothers me how most of these streams and timelapses are just them drawing nonstop without taking any time planning or redoing things or starting over. When I draw, 50% of my time is spent staring at the composition and trying to determine if its good or not. Then the other 40% of time is me looking for references since I will never draw the same pose twice, so I'm always trying to draw something I've never drawn before. The last 10% is actually sketching and drawing.
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>>7420493
They already did all that offscreen, what you're seeing is a trace with the original edited out
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>>7420493
Are you decades deep into a professional career doing exactly what they're streaming themselves doing like every single one of those people?
No?
Then you shouldn't expect to live up to that standard as you are now.
And don't fall for obvious cope like the post above this one.
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>>7420449
>>7420468
If I missed anyone I apologize, this was just a quick thing I looked at the last 2 threads.
I didnt even include myself in there.
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>>7420359
You should practice perspective drawing, overlapping forms look better when you have a good understanding of the forms in perspective
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>>7420559
I will study some refferences later, I cant pull this by imagination this time
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>>7420569
>he's never kissed a girl
Don't admit to that anon
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>>7420559
In the case of kissing it's just fucked. There are bigger fish to fry than perspective when it comes to mashing two complex forms together that are a mix of soft and hard, especially when it's human faces.

>>7420610
Do you regularly view yourself in 3rd person when you're kissing...?
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>>7420630
Yes?
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I finished my first arc and thought I'd be free but I have so many things to draw AND I am trying to fix my previous chapters...

Oh well.
https://wingsofdaera.cfw.me/
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>>7420263
happy new year! So many times I have seen anons speak of pulling a magazine like shonen jump with webcomics, however the issue is that no one draws that fast nor has assistants haha.
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>>7420610
By that logic I dont have hands since I suck at drawing it
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>>7420667
Thats a scar? I thought it was facepaint lmao
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>>7420855
Everyone did cause I suck at art.
However I managed to make it look better with a brush in recent chapters, I think its an improvement.
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>>7420856
I think its more readable as a scar if its jagged.
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THIS IS THE YEAR MY FELLOW DREAMERS AUTISTS, LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO
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>>7420908
No guts, no glory, my friend.
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>>7420630
Isn't perspective the fundamental issue? Tilting and overlapping soft forms are just a perspective problem, hard surfaces in the planes of the face don't matter as much I think, but those are also a matter of good perspective drawing.
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>>7420846
>he doesn't have hands
Sucks for you. Have fun being a beg forever.
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>>7421076
Lol
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>>7420359
Altarusia anon, by pure luck/happenstance somebody on /co/ made a kissing thread. There may be references there you can use. Direct link here:
>>>/co/146965181

>>7421068
https://discover.hubpages.com/entertainment/The-Artist-Who-Draws-With-His-Mouth-Kotobuki-Shiro-Disabled-Paints-Girls-Without-His-Hands
This dude was a professional artist and didn't just have zero hands, but zero arms as well. Don't let your dreams be memes.
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>>7421068
what a perma bitch lol
>>7421097
cool
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https://www.mangadraft.com/manga/aecast-francais.fr
Finally got it all translated, exported, and uploaded. If you want to read a hon-hon-hon version of AECAST (god, why the hell would you) with more more "allez" and "magique" than there are corn and butter-based food products at an American county fair, then you've come to the right place.
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>Get good idea
>Surge of motivation/inspiration
>Find out somebody already did it
>Lose all motivation
how to cope?
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>>7421822
What's the idea?
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>manga making general
tfw too busy working at Walmart to make any manga
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>>7421847
I won't say specifically, but pretty much every idea I had was done from 2014 to 2019.
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>>7421872
That's a lot of time to be making nothing. There's a bit in James Gurney's book where he says that you should take your own reference photos because if you use google images, everyone get's the same result and you'll wind up doing the same drawing as everyone else who googled what you googled. Sometimes you have to wonder if your ideas are the same as everyone else, because you're all playing the same games and watching the same movies. I'd say developing a hobby/ interest outside of drawing that you can draw upon is a good idea if you want to make something wholly original. But ultimately it doesn't matter. There's a lot of elements to a comic, as long as you're not intentionally trying to copy someone, no one's going to notice.
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>>7421859
Don’t give up and make it work, anon. Most manga artists have regular jobs before doing it full time.
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>>7421822
make it anyways
you're never going to have a 100% original idea, the guy who did your idea before you wasn't the first person to come up with it either
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idk how to fix it, the last panel feels out of place, maybe I shouldn't close up?
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>>7422206
Center that shit, and vary the size of the panels
This aint kindergarten
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>>7421879
>>7422079
Unfortunately I didn't start making manga until 2022. I guess I just get disheartened when I see people on /a/ always saying "This is just a ripoff of X." or "This is just a worse version of X." When something new comes out.
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>>7420359
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>>7421822
Squid games and Hunger games are 2 billion dollar franchises that blatantly ripped of manga.
Don't worry about being original.
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>>7422388
>"This is just a ripoff of X." or "This is just a worse version of X.
that was me, I say that about everything just to fuck with you specifically
>didn't start making manga until 2022
doesn't really matter, everybody starts somewhere. just keep at it.
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>>7422498
Difference is their audience are normalfags who do not read manga
You can rip off other mediums, but not within the same one and get away with it
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>>7422388
Who cares what the cavemen on /a/ think. Just draw something you find interesting or fun.
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how do I organize hentai manga panels?
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>>7422509
Fair enough, then just rip off something that mangafags don't know about.
Shakespeare? Actual novels? How to kiss a girl?
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Tips on black hair highlights, i can't get it right on digital
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>>7422571
Yes, unironically you can do that and it will be something new and novel to the medium.
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>>7422606
I don't see an issue
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>>7422388
>I just get disheartened when I see people on /a/ always saying "This is just a ripoff of X." or "This is just a worse version of X." When something new comes out.
And they could be 100% right and it wouldn't matter. The original Dragonball is a blunt ripoff of many aspects of the classic Chinese tale Journey to the West. Ffs, the main character is literally named Son Goku which in turn is just the Japanese name adaptation of Sun Wukong. If anyone acts like you need to come up with something somehow completely original (and aren't trolling but genuinely serious about that) they can frankly go fuck themselves. Phrases like "nothing new under the sun" and entire sites like TVtropes exist for a reason. It's not what you include but HOW you include it.
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I have given up on the idea of finishing my manga fast. It will take me years to maybe finish a few chapters. I'm literally Niggle from that Tolkien story. And that's okay. I'm at peace now...
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>>7422679
Then use this time to work on fundies, or to get enough cash to stop drawing with just your mouse.
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>>7422695
Pfff who needs fundies
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>>7422695
Not these threads. Storytelling is the most important. We don't need no stinking fundies
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>>7422724
So where are the good stories
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>>7422727
Where are (your) stories?
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>>7422727
Don't ask me, I'm working on fundies
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what's up with all the coping begs in these threads lately
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How the fuck do you set your work apart from other people's? Everywhere I look I see manga that look just like mine... I'm... I'm scared bros
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>>7422769
Just make a better story, bro
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>>7422724
I never said storytelling wasn't the most important. You can do both at the same time, panel by panel, page by page. And besides I was speaking generally; it was not intended to be an insult.
>>7422769
>manga that look just like mine
And which mangas are these? We talking visually? Story-wise? What?
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>>7422776
Visually. The military sci-fi theme seems to be saturated
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>>7422778
Easiest way to set yourself apart to any degree in the military sci-fi field (regardless of how MUCH sci-fi there is) is to design some cool armor. GITS had cool armor. Jin-Roh the Wolf Brigade had cool armor. Cool armor never hurts.
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>>7422788
I honestly don't think that's enough... I'll have to work hard on the story and characters...
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>>7422769
>Everywhere I look I see manga that look just like mine
That's not as bad as you think bro.
Most the stuff I see on webtoons looks like garbage. If you can manage to look like an actual manga, that's a great start imo
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>>7422556
wdym by organize
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>>7422556
>he thinks hentai manga panels are somehow magically different
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>>7422746
idk but it pisses me off
>>7422724
if you don't want to improve your art then why even come here, if someone bothered to give you critique would you just ignore it? fuck off
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>>7422868
OPM made it big with bad art so i can do it to crab
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>>7422870
you have a parody of a normalfags idea of manga, I'm almost convinced this is devilishly crafted bait
stop posting and go draw your bad art manga then, I won't stop you, I want you to succeed. we all have limited time on this earth and you're wasting mine and yours right now.
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>>7422669
That's a panel from rosen garten saga
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>>7422873
>I'm almost convinced this is devilishly crafted bait
I thought my sarcasm was heavy enough, but I understand it's not always clear in text.
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>>7422902
in my defense I've seen too many people use that line with zero sarcasm, and the whole board has been flooded with newfags for a while
I'm going to drink some milk
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Got my lazy ass for new year to do finish another sketch
Each page it gets bit harder as i try to outdo myself but that's for best
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>>7423199
the beast fighting looks neat
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>>7423961
Looks good imo
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Hey guys. Apparently Ajin's author is working on a new manga called "The Pool" or something like that. I know some of you like his work so I thought I'd let you know.
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>>7424574
Here's his Twitter profile
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how do i draw manga with krita
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>>7422509
>You can rip off other mediums, but not within the same one and get away with it
You should engage with more fiction. Have you never seen Breaking Bad? It openly lifts a shit ton from The Sopranos and has a million references and "homages" to it to boot up to and including reusing names (Juan Bolsa is John Sack in spanish) and even actors (Jr's Doctor and Walt's being the same guy). I'd be here all day listing the similarities and they're both TV shows that aired in the same decade.
What matters isn't the concept or even a lot of major story beat; it's the execution and moment-to-moment action that people care about. See also: Marvel and DC constantly ripping each other off (Clayface/Sandman, Catwoman/Black Cat, The Atom/Ant-Man, etc).
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>>7424883
The Sopranos and Breaking Bad are completely different premises, one simply has some references to the other. That's not a "ripoff".

This is the level of media intelligence here?
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>>7425003
Breaking bad literally ends with Tony and Paulie killing Walter.
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>>7425107
Do you know what a premise is?
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>>7425118
Yerp
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>>7424570
Thanks
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>>7425502
Well that's never gonna fit.
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>get a new comment
>it's a sex bot
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>>7424574
been waiting for chapters to accumulate this past year. maybe i read in another year
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It's about that time once more. New thread at:

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