>>7419563
that faucet looks suspiciously like a penis

anyways, my vent for today is that learning to draw from an anonymous forum is retarded as a fundamental concept, and if you want to actually accomplish something, you need to learn from professionals. take advice from someone you know for sure can draw

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Drawing varied, non-boring pages is really hard.
Like, I have a script and points for each page but I have a bad habit of drawing shots real close... Probably because I'm focusing on the character's face/expression.
I heard some pretty decent advice that I should include 1 of a "close, medium, and far" shot in each scene (unless I'm doing something like a dramatic beat or punchline) and I'm starting to notice this sort of structure in a lot of manga pages I read
Honestly, these "far" shots are kinda hard to frame/pose interestingly but I guess I just gotta try harder..

>>7419585
I've actually gotten a lot of good advice on /ic/ including full paintovers of pieces I made.

>>7419604
>full paintovers of pieces I made.
that's really good. my main beef is just with teh anonymous aspect, but if someone can prove the salt of their advice with their work, im all for that

>>7419604
What is picrel from?

has there been ANYTHING that the overwhelming majority of /ic/ (>95%) has ever agreed on

>>7419652
that being alive is better than being dead

>>7419563
this is the year, bros
I'm gonna kill myself

>>7419663
why kill yourself at all? and why not right now?

>>7419664
desist with your vapid philosophising, I know what I'm doing

>>7419666
>desist with your vapid philosophising
I'll stop when I want to

>>7419667
now you understand

>>7419668
we're still at square 1: you want to do something. that says nothing of your motivations.

>>7419669
do you want to breathe? do you want to squeeze faeces out of your butt and cover your asshole in poop every day?

>>7419673
>do you want to breathe?
yeah
>do you want to squeeze faeces out of your butt and cover your asshole in poop every day?
if the alternative is death, then yeah

>>7419677
now you're getting it

>>7419678
no I'm not

>>7419681
at last, you see

>>7419683
prove it

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>>7419652

>>7419563
Phew... finally. I missed this thread

>>7419563
I think having these threads cut back on the offtopic in other generals.

>>7419563
>Have you been drawing over the New Years?
I painted yesterday and I'll paint today as well, small still life studies.
>Any new goals?
I created an artistic instagram but never posted anything there (I post here regularly though), this 2025 I'll start putting my work out there.
>What about last year's promises? How many did you keep?
Well, it wasn't a resolution or anything, but I quit my job in May and I've been drawing/painting full time since then. We'll see how long my savings last me. Hopefully I can make it through 2025 without having to get another job.

>>7419563
I spent ages choosing a screen tablet, finally going for one with a good deal on it that put it within my budget
I was so excited and optimistic for once
The next morning the company emailed me saying oops, it’s actually out of stock lol
Feeling totally blackpilled now honestly, all that effort researching and looking around and all for nothing, unless I pay an extra $200 or whatever for the regular full priced tablet

Do you guys think the new knkl videos are really him? The style is pretty similar to his old stuff, albeit much less refined. But he won't show his face or use his voice.
But I've seen several people suggest his channel was hacked and his new gumroad course is probably just a scam

>>7419741
problem is it's a 50/50 on if it gets 404'd because the jannies will interpret it as off-topic without understanding the nuance of cutting back bullshit from the rest of the board

>>7420119
it probably gets 404'd because of retards ending up in stupid slapfights like that suicide bit a few posts before yours
wct always inevitably devolves into a mental illness vent chamber for some reason

I will need to start blocking 4chan if I want to start getting shit done.

>>7420243
This but replace "blocking 4chan" with "looking for a better job".

>>7420243
That never works, at least for me. I just end up replacing 4chan with youtube and I NEED youtube. If I block youtube I just end up using freetube while telling myself "at least I don't have the recs" and then if I block that I replace it with some other timewaster.

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>>7419791
What are you looking at?
and a $200 price difference is crazy
>>7419711

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Will doing cardio help improve my QOL as an artist or is it a "do it if you want" situation?

Light strength training and yoga has helped me A LOT. Like, I've got way less pain than before and can draw/sot for way longer as a result.
I've been ignoring cardio... So I'm womdering if there's benefits there.

>>7420552
Cardio will strengthen your lungs and heart. Good for health/longevity life but you wont notice a difference at rest/while drawing like with strength training. Generally you will feel better and have more energy so I would recommend doing it but it's up to you.

>>7420506
Kamvas 22 Pro
Some friends commissioned me so that I'll have enough to just get a brand new one, I am now firmly whitepilled again

>new goals
Get competent with drawing by the end of the year. I’ve been fucking around and haven't put effort in solid, sustained practice. Giving myself to the end of the year; otherwise I’m dropping drawing.
>last years promise
Didn’t draw my oshi, so hopefully this year.

>>7420660
you don't really like drawing, do you?

>>7419563
The wine whispers of escape, but water carries truth steady, clear unrelenting Promises fade like sketches in sand goals linger, shadows chasing light
what have you drawn, but what remains?
https://youtu.be/2sQZfvq4lE8?si=uF1oJUIvbBWYDEVH

now when I need cgpeers for some software it's mysteriously down ffs

>>7419633
a manga by Kaori Mori called Bride Story

I want the old /v/ drawthreads back, they used to be so fun

>>7420660
>by the end of the year

Do you know how many faggots said that on this board for years and they had nothing to show for it? You need a more clear cut idea what you want from art rather than 'be competent with drawing', whatever that means. There are too many rabbit holes of study in art.

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>Want to make "Play less videogames" my New Years Resolution
>Monster Hunter releases in February
I feel like I've already fucking lost this fight..

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if you are still addicted to this board, you are objectively not a good artist, because if you were truly good, you'd feel no need to take advice from this board. Maybe you'd hang on for weeks, months, but eventually the pointlessness of this board will catch up to you. You'll find yourself spending more time on other boards and/or reddit, and you'll find yourself not even emotionally engaged or enraged by other anons' critiques, attacks, insults, or schizophrenic grudges. You'll be "beyond it all" so to speak. There is no fraternity here, no bond nor brotherly love. No relationships formed, no friendships kept, nothing. This board is pure bitterness and nihilism. There is nothing left here. There never was a golden age of /ic/. And there shall never be in the future.

Sad that the young artists here don't know how to respect their senpais enough to keep them around for their own benefit. Maybe this is why Simon left us so long ago.

>>7422076
simon literally posted that 360 degree head drawing a few months ago
and you're a retarded sissy that can't handle the slightest insults

>>7422077
he comes back to btfo people, never to leave handwritten critiques or to actually help anyone anymore

>>7421860
WUWA 2.0 just dropped last night and I need to get that silver haired vixen like my life depends on it.

>>7422076

Either you weren't here in 2015 or you've been here so long you forgot and your memory is blurred.

>>7422077
what was it?

>>7422078
What do you mean? He definitely does help people, he always answers questions if you reply to him. Honestly, I don't get why he still comes here.

Promised myself last year that I'd start taking actual learning seriously and try to draw as much as possible. I noticed more gains on traditional than digitally so far. My new goal is to get more comfortable with full body stuff and to log at least 10 hours a week. Normal nightly session of drawing is normally 2 hours so I think it is very much doable

>>7419563
I'd like some advice:
Last year I tried drawing but I end up dropping it out of embarrassment. Ever since then I hadn't felt like doing it.
But now all of sudden I got this urge to try again. I'm worried it'll end up like last year. So what do I do?

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>Wanna finish my manga oneshot stories
>also wanna finish my doujinshi
>But also want to learn 3D modeling and texturing
>But also want to exercise to fix my back and arms
>But also have work taking up 45-50hrs of my week
...there's genuinely not enough hours in the day for all this.

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>kicked out discord because dumb behaviour in past
>russian guy who helped me killed in war
>e-gf suicided
>play too much of games
>now old as shit

>people posting greentexts of their parents being supportive
>meanwhile my family is running a covert ops to make me stop drawing

This is so annoying. It makes me want to keep practicing so I can one day shove my progress down their throats, but at the same time it does impact my daily practice.

>>7422946
I'm pretty sure my dad would kick me to the curb if he found out I drew
>how old are yo
28, fuck off life is too expensive these days

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>>7422883

>26
>still bad
help me

>>7423872
just lock in

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I have this nagging feeling that I'm not suppose to indulge in any other creative hobby that isn't drawing or writing because I should be spending my time fining either of those instead of getting into something new.
I have this itch for coding and I want to try and make a Fly Swatter/Coffee Break/Gnat Attack clone just for kicks. Not for profit, not to build an audience, not to have a portfolio on professional game deving or some shit, I just want to have fun and make a silly little game.

>>7420552
if you live longer you can draw more

save me loomis

How do you kindly deal with people venting or saying they want to kill themselves in your shitter DMs? I try to be nice and encouraging to people but an artist you follow isn't the best place to get help. It seems to be a relatively common occurrence on the internet.
A lot of deeply lonely people in the world, I feel bad for them but I don't ever know what to say when I encounter this. I'm not a therapist.

>>7424834
Left click -> Block this user.

>>7424834
That's your opportunity to share the word of Jesus Christ with them. You could be making friends for all eternity.

My art goals are a lot more quicker to achieve than I realized. It just comes down to consistency.

I can only draw when conditions are perfect
It has to be sunny, perfect temperature, I'm well fed and not thirsty, and the time has to be an even number like 1:00 or 3:00. How do people draw randomly?

>>7419563
Improving anatomy as per usual since i suck dicks at it. Probably will be posting it all here too since retards from FB,X, etc are starting to push AI users into platform and that garbage can infiltrate group and spam AI images there. Fucking great... IC going to be last resort. Im sooooo fucking glad that AI is a thing like really specially it fucked whole pinterest, deviantart, can't wait for more AI slop to fuck everything.

>>7425777
I just don't have that luxury.
Sometimes I've got 30 minutes on a bus, or 45 mins till I have to get to my flight gate.
I'll pull out my tablet and work on some thumbnails or sketches. If I don't then I might not have time to draw the entire day

>>7425785
well I don't doodle random crap with my finger, I need to be in peak physical condition to draw at my best, that's not a luxury.

Once again, I must reiterate, that fundamentals are king, anything else is just an extension of them but without the proper foundation then it will be unstable and prone to breakage.

>>7425793
But you don't need to be in peak condition, you should just start.
>It has to be sunny, perfect temperature, I'm well fed and not thirsty, and the time has to be an even number like 1:00 or 3:00.
Don't get me wrong, but are you mentally ill by any chance? Or were you just speaking hyperbolically? Regardless I'd suggest sorting any eventual mental issues first because they can make you procrastinate more. Speaking from personal experience of I got back into art when I got into treatment for my depression and ocd.

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Once I lock in with art, it seems like my mental health's gonna slide backwards. I have no intention of giving up my dreams so I guess that's just a thing to make peace with

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>>7419563
I drew more in 2023/2024 than I have in the last 8 years, didn’t really make a resolution or anything. It wasn’t a rigid habit with tons of studies, more like creative work with the occasional study, but I still managed to maintain a steady level of consistency by drawing for a couple of hours every week.
The progress has been satisfying, but I thirst for more power, getting tired of having to rely on reference and improvise for shit I don’t know how to draw, especially anatomy. I feel like I’m not going to improve fast enough at my current rate unless I really establish a solid study quota. Current rate will take at least 5-8 years to reach my goals if I don’t change anything, I think.

So I’m going to start doing studies like this at least 5 days/week:

1.Pre-trace refs to better understand shapes/negative space

2. 10x 2-5min studies from ref

3. 10x 2-5min imaginative drawings based on the refs

That will be the daily quota, and after I’m finished I can draw whatever I feel like.

I finally saved up enough money to buy a gaming pc... now I'm addicted to outlast trials halo and nsfw games

>>7426543
of course I'm mentally ill, I'm on 4chan aren't I? If I was normal I wouldn't be having this difficulty.

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I'm considering using ChatGTP to serve as my editor for my writing, would that be considered cheating?
My stupid ESL ass is always making mistakes and so I'm always editing my stuff, it's embarrassing when you're trying to appeal to an audience and immersion just breaks for stupid things like missing words, poor wording or basic grammar error.

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that one bro that hypes you up on every post

>>7426690
What were you using for the internet before this

>>7427719
My laptop it can only run 2d games

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I wish I was at home, drawing
I hate working so much

>>7424834
Just ignore them. Not my problem.

>draw for an hour
>boddy is trembling like I just did a 8 hour shift at a factory
>take a 3 hour break disassociating
>draw for another hour
>take another 3 hour break scrolling social media

>>7428110
literally me
also
>draw something that turns out nice
>bask in the satistfaction for a day or two instead of figuring out what went right, or trying to solidify any gains

why is being productive so fucking hard
it goes against all logic, surely cavemen who can't focus on work would have all died. I can't do anything unless its absolutely required to avoid death or not making rent.

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Most of my issues with art stem from mental health issues, it's kinda annoying fr

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As I'm slightly sleep deprived and I am this close from blowing a fuse for no real reason other than my brain feeling like, I just want to say that I fucking hate each and every single one of you more often than not.

>>7428780
I think you really just hate yourself.

>>7428780
Go to sleep then

>>7428780

fap before you sleep, you'll feel better

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love this thread, hope we get another 20 iterations of it

>>7430027
Sugeeee oniichan, did you make all those threads?

>>7430028
i wish i were powerful enough to make that many "beg image vague unanswerable question" posts. i'ld fill the board just so i never had to see another one of the offtopic whining/blackpilling threads.

>>7419563
Honestly don't think I'm going to bother posting my art again until I'm significantly better. The fact that my work has been lousy for a majority of my life and only now in the passably-mediocre phase for just the past two or so years is just so humiliating. I feel ashamed by how much better everyone is, yet I continue to fumble at every step of the way despite how much I've been trying to improve. It's just so frustrating feeling like I'm always losing

>>7430027
mmmghghghh

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Why's everyone so mad all the time online?
I wanna enjoy some fandom discussion and all I find is autists screaming at each other.
I browse art on socials and it's people shitflinging over problem shippers or whatever (who cares?)
I try to start some discussion and it's all stawmen and people acting like I'm some very specific poster or bot or shill...

It's all ao negative and just makes me not want to discuss anything ever.

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>>7419563
I can only draw for a few hours (4-5) at a time and as soon as I'm finished I can't draw for the rest of the day. It has been like this for the past few days and it's been bothering me a bit. I need a bit more energy to keep up with drawing every day + doing comms

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>do jack shit all day
>about to go to bed
>clock hits midnight
>suddenly get the urge to draw
>end up drawing for 3 hours straight
>sleep schedule is once again fucked up
Why??? I obviously WANT to draw but I don't when I have all the time in the world, yet end up drawing during the wee hours of the night when I really should be sleeping

>>7427658
Should be fine, especially for grammar and stuff. But the best option would be to ask it where you're wrong and how you can fix it so you eventually rely on it less

>>7430478
>>7430451
drawing is unnatural. what you're doing is having a manic episode whenever you draw. People who draw on schedule are not being creative so they can do it every day without question like a job. We need to wait until the planets align before we can draw.

>>7430488
shut the fuck up

One of my fav artists faved my work :)

>>7430489
sorry for being right

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Just practicing

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>>7430497
Switch between stabilizer and no

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>>7430498

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>>7430499

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Should I focus on rendering or figure drawing for the time being?

got to draw every day
got to grind
got to practice
pomodoro all day
one hour of studies
one hour of fun
got to draw
one finished piece a day
got to start drawing
no matter how exhausted i am
got to draw this morning
cant take a day off
im behind on drawing
got to draw

>>7419673
>do you want to squeeze faeces out of your butt
a good poop can be pretty satisfying
>and cover your asshole in poop every day?
eat more fiber and shave, i also have a bidet so my asshole is squeaky clean

i only started taking art seriously a few months after turning 25. i feel like something in my mind just clicked and i decided to actually study fundies, maybe something to do with prefrontal cortex, the vast majority of my improvement has been since then too. i dunno if i could have done the same if i started learning fundies at 20, but who knows

did nothing all day and I'm still exhausted

>>7430870
I will never shave my ass.

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Is it based or cringe to half ass a weekly comic strip just because it forces you to practice drawing and consistency?

>>7431498
gross

>>7431510
Good.
Stay away from it, booty bandit.

>>7431505
it's only based if you're already good at drawin

>>7431505
It's your life, you make the rules. But
>half ass
>force
It doesn't sound like it's gonna help you improve much. if you're gonna approach it like that, why bother doing it at all

I hate how much my parents are people pleasers. They'll go far out of their way and ruin their own plans to appease others, then complain about it to me like they were coerced into doing it despite happily agreeing. It's so fucking retarded, they never ask anyone for help or things in exchange even when times were really tough. Is it some weird case of pride or just general retardation I'll never know.

I totally forgot the blue lead color doesn't show up in the scanner.

>>7431880
the non-photo blue was for old ass reproduction tech, you have to manually remove it with normal scanning

>>7430520
>Bodysuit
Based.

>>7431880
protip: invest in apple and when something called bitcoin shows up, buy lots of it

>>7432019
>>7431907

Does this show my age or something? I used to have a flatbed scanner when i was a kid. i started on paper.

>>7432024
it's pre-digital tech, it doesn't show up on film or old copiers that work with photosensitive drums

>>7431593
>Is it some weird case of pride or just general retardation I'll never know.
For me it's intense social anxiety. But even then, more often than that I remove myself from other people at my expense rather than doing what they want. It's impressive your parents had you if that's a big problem for them

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>>7431524
It could lead to having some fans. If so motivational AF.

I have over 100 references saved and now I can't decide what I want to draw since I like so many of them

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My work improves when I cheat. Fuck grinding in 2025.

>>7432590
How are you cheating? AI and/or tracing? Otherwise there's little ways to cheat in art.

taking breaks doesnt work for me, I just get MORE tired and burnt out the longer I do nothing. now I cant draw because I have a week worth of nothing weighing me down and I cant draw something that makes up for all that waiting people did for my art.

>>7431505
>>7432362
you are such a faggot

>>7432739
using reference

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Not related to art or anything but-
>feel the autistic itch to quote Star Fox 64's voice lines when appropriate
>some guy comments in one of my works about looking forward to any possible future projects in some specific vein
>hit him with a "Will do, General."
>guy asks me if that's a SF64 reference
>mfw

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I have found that I'm only really productive when it comes to drawing at night. I messed up my sleep schedule and I'd wake up at 2AM but, surprisingly, I would have enough focus and motivation to draw for 5-6 hours at a time, and much of that time would be spent on a single piece. As soon as the sun comes up I lose all focus and even drawing for 30 mins to an hour becomes a gruelling task.

I have a bullshit theory that this phenomenon occurs because during the last 5 years of my life my daylight was spent sitting idly by in mind-numbing classes and public transportation, thus pavloving myself into a zombie-like state during the time the sun is up to cope with the monotony of my day-to-day. I have also noticed that I sub-consciously seek time-wasting activities during the day like videogames or scrolling through social media to, I assume, make the day go by faster

I had a good streak of drawing fully-colored pieces every day since the 4th but today I fixed my sleep schedule, woke up at 7am and can't get a good sketch going. It's really frustrating

Pic related, me waking up this morning and seeing my sun-lit room instead of being basked in darkness

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This morning I woke up from quite a weird dream. I was drawing a commission about a chick getting fucked by two guys... or just one, the other one was kind just there serving as mattress for the guy and the girl. I remember having this dilema about the men's skin colors thinking about either making the most of color contrast and have them being black/brown or save myself the mockery and have them being white at the expenses of skin colors blending together. My brain was also indecisive on who the girl was, sometimes it was a regular's OC, sometimes it was my own OC, either way she was blonde for sure.

Out of all dreams I've had, this is by far one of the weirdest because nothing makes sense even in the context of me having two to four dreams per night and dreaming some extremely convoluted shit.
1. Despite drawing being an integral part of my lifestyle and my blonde OC living rent free in my head, my brain utterly refuses to dream of either, let alone both.
2. The lewdest thing I've ever drawn is yuri, I barely ever draw men and I would definitely not draw dicks even if I got paid for it.
3. I absolutely loathe M-M-F threesomes, I very much would prefer them F-F-M, so I wouldnt draw anything like this period.
Seriously, what the hell, brain.

>>7433868
I am Sigmund Freud and I diagnose that your OC represents your mother, and the two men are representative of your conscious and unconscious because both want to fuck your mother.
Honestly, can't blame them. Or you, actually. Have a nice day, anon.

>>7433703
Im the same.
A little sleep deprivation seems to flip some filter on in my mind that makes lock in or drop the hyperanalysis and become more patient.

But a good long sleep seems to wash out whatever I build up with sleeplessness holding in my brain and forget everything/ reset everything.

Thats 1 aspect. The other thing is just that its quiet at night.

>>7433868
the internet routers are feeding you dreams not of your own. i noticed when i plug out my router i can dream normally but when i leave the router in i get all kinds of dreams about stuff i dont even think about on a day to day as if its being downloaded to my brain

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I feel like I've forgotten how to fucking finish a drawing.
I just don't know. I spent all weekend working my little butt off on a comic and it just looks trash and unfinished.

someone commissioned me for the first time. what payment method could I use that doesn't disclose my name

Yooooo someone took my comment from this website, word for word, and pasted it to reddit in response to someone. This is the SECOND time I run into my own posts on reddit on a random research stroll through google. The first time was a comment I said on Crunchyroll, not 4chan. That’s crazy. And small world? And bizarre.

>>7434119
Why don't you go and stay over at reddit?

>>7434134
They're stealing from me, my posts here, on the four. Not the other way around. I guess that means I'm naturally radiant.

>>7434119
it's hard to fault the dead internet theory fans sometimes. at least until they get into the retardo stuff like sharding.

>>7434167
>it's hard to fault reality
Yeah, I guess, I dunno.

>>7434167
it’s starting to make sense that it’s true. I mean I know i’m like a totally awesome guy and all with over 30 patented memes used site wide but it can’t be that coincidental I keep running into random people screenshotting my comments in their arguments. It’s the work of dead internet.

>>7434182
you're being gangstalked

>>7434188
I was gangstalked for years irl…but they stopped. or so i think.

I forgot how to draw today, let's hope for tomorrow

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>>7419563
>Have you been drawing over the New Years?
I'm painting up minis if that counts

>Any new goals?
Actually getting something done.

>>7433953
>someone commissioned me for the first time. what payment method could I use that doesn't disclose my name
crypto (probably not practical)

>>7434119
>Yooooo someone took my comment from this website, word for word, and pasted it to reddit in response to someone. This is the SECOND time I run into my own posts on reddit on a random research stroll through google. The first time was a comment I said on Crunchyroll, not 4chan. That’s crazy. And small world? And bizarre.
link?

Seeing other people being good at drawing makes me want to kill myself

>>7434305
how's pixiv request?

>>7434314
in the end, drawing is all that matters, painting is easy and full of bullshit

>>7430499
The 2nd half of your torsos are too elongated, no offense

>>7434428
Thanks you mean the one posing on a tentacle?

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>finally finish all pending commissions after 3-4 weeks of grinding
>remember that one guy who told me to let him know once I had all commissions done
>it's that one guy I didn't want to get anymore commissions from
>could have taken my sweet ass time to hit him up, hit him up a day after the last commission
>tell him to add me on Discord because Twitter is being a bitch
>he adds me alright
>probably expecting me to hit him up
>decide not to
>waste Sunday playing vidya instead
In normal circumstances, I'd be the one interested in making business and let clients know I'm right there... but this is one of those case where I say "Well, he's the one interested in commissioning" and simply sleep on my duties because fuck him. In normal circumstances, I'd be serviceable to a fault with my clients, give them freebies and shit... but this guy is only getting the bare minimum and I dont care.

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>feel like I lack any sort of style or personal touch to my work
>yet people seem to recognize me just from sketches n shit on drawpile or 4chan
So which is it?

>>7434987
the community recognizes you is different from the rest of the internet

>>7434987
Your inside looking in
You see your art from beginning to end - to you it's just the usual stuff
To people seeing it from the otherside it's fresh and new
At least that's what I think - I love the drawpile artists care to share an example of your work?

>>7434481
From the way you post I think you're that colocatdraws guy
>>7434987
If I'm right about the above, point is people just pick up stuff, if I'm wrong, we'll, guess I'm just schizo

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Is this true? Just how rare is to have people drawing and working in STEM?

>>7434987
As some dude on YouTube said, people are going to notice your style before you do.

>>7435138
I like drawing, but also like coding and making money

>>7435138
I like drawing and painting, but I have a bachelor's in biomedical sciences.
Currently making money by painting houses though, lmao.

>>7435138
the statement "gods don't have favorites" doesn't make any sense. Nobody has ever said that, so why is it in quotations? The pagan gods ALWAYS pick favorites. Fucking low IQ Canadian atheist retard

its another "Stare at the wall for 10 hours even though i have commissions to do" sort of day

i find myself caring less and less about income the more i realize that my art is genuinely bad, my chances of getting good slowly slips away every single day and i'm scared 10 years will pass and i'll be just as dogshit as i am right now. i like many artists who aren't skilled draftsmen and they're doing well with loyal fans and sell well at venues, exhibits, etc but i don't care about that, i don't want to be liked and money isn't my priority, i just want to be good for my own ego

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>>7432832
tongue my socially motivated anus

>>7434987
should I draw more stuff on 4chan?

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>>7435876
how is he drawing in green with a graphtie pencil?

>>7435913

>>7435913
this is curious...what form of power is this?

>>7435913
>>7435919
>>7435926

>>7435928

>>7435929
kek

>>7419563
>Any new goals?
Yeah I want to learn about colored pencil and ink; I have no problem with ink considering that's what they teach us back in the school, so what i need to do is learning about value, texturing, or anything that is 'render'-related with ink medium. But colored pencil, holy shit it was an entirely different beast.
Learning how to color with color pencil is like learning how to color from the beginning, you cant just slap color theory and call it a day, sometimes its just not working, sometimes something that should be working in other coloring medium doesnt work in this medium. Everything about colored pencil is irrational, and I want to learn about that.
Anyway I have set my goal to draw 100 drawing with each of those medium (50 ink and 50 color). Not going to make this a limited time challenge since I have other things to do in life (even making another art/illustration), however I will constantly redlining my own art and review it after I finished drawing them to see where can I improve this thing even more.

>>7435270
>The pagan gods ALWAYS pick favorites
the christian one too so dont worry "gods" isnt letting your favorite one out

I can barely get out of bed these days, how do I get myself drawing again?

>>7436171
I see your bait attempt and I decline to take it. Have fun by yourself

Dedicating my life to the pursuit of mastery and creation of art, while the world is seemingly priming itself to fall apart, as AI strips the job market, as oversaturation makes this entire thing hyper competitive, I mean it's feels like, god damn, am I a fucking dumbass? Lmao. I'm not demoralized in the least, the thing is, I just feel, like, well, like a dumbass. Im acknowledging the fact I have to be somewhat retarded to continue on this path despite the apparent dead end. Yet I do it because I enjoy it. I'm not that good, I don't know if I'll ever have appeal. I just do it, because the process itself is what I enjoy, and it makes me feel stupid. Foolish man with a foolish dream. I can't just not do it, I enjoy it too much, even if what I make only ever appeals to me, and I guess that's fine.

>>7436550
>complaining about ai
>am I a fucking dumbass
yes you are

>>7436561
I think it's naive to say AI won't have a role in the very near future. Sticking your head in the sand doesn't make it go away.

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>>7427970
>made this post bitching about working
>get moved to the 2AM shift this week
killmekillekillmekillme

>>7436550
I kinda gotta second this >>7436561

But seriously let's be honest with ourselves, if you're a shitter on here, you're not going into some big important corpo job, that ship has sailed and will continue to get further away the longer you stay here. And that's the only market AI is actually affecting. Everything else is doing just fine and that doesn't look like it's going to change any time soon.

So yes, you are a dumbass and are fearmongering yourself.

>>7436714
I never said I was giving up because of these things. I'm just stating facts that don't affect me or my path but do pop in my head. It's you guys that keep attaching meaning to what I'm stating.

is the board being raided howie spammers?

>>7436717
That doesn't mean I can't call you a dumbass for letting things that don't affect you whatsoever affect you anyway. Like straight up self-foot-shooting behavior.

>I have to be somewhat retarded to continue on this path despite the apparent dead end.
Also, literally did say it does affect you.

>>7436720
I dunno, definitely more shitters past couple days. Maybe kids coming back from vacation or something.

>>7436720
has been for a few years now

>>7436735
i'm trying to remember the last time the board dropped below 50 off-topic meta/social media/mental illness/reposted garbage threads and coming up blank.

>>7436741
probably pre-2016, maybe before 2020

>>7436528
I got better

>>7437299
Good stuff, anon.
Now go forth and make it.

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https://lotus.ae/galleries/drawing/

I was thinking of taking evening classes for drawing but the student galleries are disconcerting to say the least.
The painting section doesn't seem that bad desu.
This is the only place I found that does evening classes btw so I just don't know...

I mean this in a positive way but I think the reason I can't achieve the level of draftsmanship Id like and naturally lean more into painting is I dont have that analytical, focused, autism like some. I've been talking to another artist having never really made artist friends, and I expected someone similar to me and he's the complete opposite despite liking many of the same things

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I've been doodling chibis in front views the last two days. Nothing too crazy, just some simple, small doodles. Surely there's no harm in that, isn't there? I dunno, man, I just don't want to do anything crazy, I just want to have fun drawing.

>>7437620
I say this as someone in a similar boat. You just aren't practicing perspective and construction enough. You think you know it, you don't. Once you start practicing it daily you realize why you draftsmanship was lacking. To draw the contour of a form convincingly you need to understand how forms sit in space, be able to internalize how vanishing points affect forms.

Don't cop out and say you can't do it. You can, and it will indirectly improve your painting via defining planes, lighting, composition. Don't be a bitch. You CAN do it. I was also telling myself maybe I'm just more of a painter, now I'm glad I am branching out. Draftsmanship and painting are so intertwined that to go without improving one is a disservice to yourself.

man SHUT UP JEEZ
yapyapyap
Shut UP

>>7419585
I feel the same way. But I like interacting with the people here and I keep asking thigns even though I know any answer I get is unlikely to help

>>7435151
That's hella cool if true

>>7437830
not op but im in the same situation as you and him where i struggle with construction, etc. i restarted morpho after doing some of it last year and getting filtered by the legs section but now i grasp it a lot better. it's just a matter of mileage

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>Always get discouraged and "give up" on art
>Always come back to it
>Repeat for years

Is this love bros?

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I don't know if it's seasonal depression or what but I can't even procrastinate properly at this point. I don't get any work done but I also can't just doomscroll or watch youtube or whatever. Man.

>>7438563
If things don't improve then force yourself to draw. You might just be neding a push

Can you believe we're already halfway through January? Can you also believe most people already failed their new years resolutions? Crazy huh?

>>7438646
theres still 350 days left

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>>7438646
>Can you believe we're already halfway through January?
I sure cant, time has been going so slow on my end I could have sworn we were on February.
>Can you also believe most people already failed their new years resolutions?
One of my year resolutions was to draw birthday presents for my friends and one of them caught me in the middle of commissions, so I already failed mine lmao.

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>start going to evening figure sessions
>It's like once or twice a month
>It's a class of like 20 people, same faces every time
>I just go in, draw, then leave without interacting with anyone
>(I kinda judged that most the people there are /beg/, I'm not that good but I'm at least a bit better... At least the people that sat by me)
>one time spend too long taking a massive shit after class
>run into a mass of them
>*Pokemon random encounter music*
>forced to socialize when my brain is already drained from work + figure drawing
>they’re very complimentary to my work in general but seem like the people that never practice
>"Anon, you got any advice?" (paraphrase)
>"Just draw figures more".
>Palpable silence
>I excuse myself and leave
God I hope they get the message and leave me alone.

>>7428110
>>7428125
Why do perfectionists want to learn to draw? It seems like it is just selfabuse foor. Them.

>>7438912
Albeit to.

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>check the /vg/ community I browse regularly
>they are being retarded over minor nuances again
>check /lsg/ to commute with that general for the very first time
>they are talking about penises
Fuck this. I am not in the mood to deal with faggots today.

>Draw for 5 minutes
>take a mental health break
>draw for another 5 minutes
>take a 2 hour mental health break crying in bed
>psych myself up and draw for another ten minutes
>mindbroken for the rest of the week

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Well, today ain't my day. Everywhere just sucks, I might as well do the right thing in this situation and fuck off the internet. It's nice to take a break from the virtual social spaces every once in a while, I could use some of it.

See you guys hopefully not tomorrow!

>>7439528
My mental drastically improved when I don't visit here. Have a nice break. Maybe don't come back, you'll be surprised just how productive you become

Does anyone have experience with pixiv requests. I just got DM from a guy saying he sent me request ~hour ago, but I still don't see anything. is there some sort of processing period to it.

>discussing something
>guy gets noticeably agitated and you can sense them about to sperg out by how much more passive aggressive the comments get
>actually you're wrong
>they sperg out
>don't reply and do something else
Feels good man

>>7439537
Not him, but when I take a break from here I just get bored and notice how much I have nothing to do in my free time. So I come back.

>>7439891
please don't rile up my peaceful gearfag thred

>This past week, we reached out to you with news of the unimaginable loss Rey Bustos and his family experienced during the Eaton Fire. Their home, along with decades of personal and artistic treasures, was reduced to ashes.

Christ New Masters Academy made this sound like Rey died in the fire when I opened this email.

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>Get DMs from multiple people asking me where the NSFW account is
>anon where do you post your NSFW draws
>"I don't have a NSFW account"
>anon tell me where the lewd draws are
>"I don't post them anywhere concrete outside of private servers and transient threads at a niche site"
>reverse image search is not helping me, where's the NSFW account?!
>"there no such thing as a NSFW account!"
>anon give me the not so wholesome account!
>"THE NSFW ACCOUNT IS A MYTH!!"
Get these people away from me!!

>>7440950
Looks like you're sitting on a gold mine! Just draw NSFW officially~

>>7419585
>take advice from someone you know for sure can draw
I'm just shy because what I draw is fetish shit

>>7440950
Can you give us your SFW blog?

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i've gotten real far for being self taught, but I'm getting old and I'm not as good as I dreamed of being. Idgaf about people thinking I'm an artist, I only care about feeling fluent at drawing and painting. But I have to pay loans & bills and don't have enough time to practice.

Picrel. Pretty decent but not reallyy gud yet.

>>7437455
there's almost no one who knows how to draw in the US outside LA NYC and lyme academy. Don't pay for that class, buy hurtado's courses.

>>7439822
Do you even have Pixiv requests open?

>>7441551
Unless you are 40, I don't think that's old for getting super good. Even 40 isn't too late to get good, just starting to be old.