If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed rip: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/editNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artmangapose.comline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7419916
>>7423445Aw man you didn't pic the basedjak tribal version. Thanks for including it anyway
My progress last year (some images are missing) Thoughts on what should I improve?I haven't been on /ic/ since 2020
>general for begs>pros come in to get attentiongetting real fucking tiring...
Thread Challenge
>Etrian Odyssey in the OPCute!
>general for people who draw>nodraws derail and trollgetting real fucking tiring...
>>7423480>general for people who drawthis is literally the dedicated nodraw containment general
I actually put effort to the scenery this time around, how's it anons?
Bugoid from a shitty story I wrote a while back.
>>7423490That's lovely.
>>7423505Sent without description by accident. Its Satan burning in Hell as the souls he deceived into joining him try and take their revenge.
>>7423505Do you have more of this? It is cool
Is it over? Should I kill myself?
>>7423509Not on that topic, only time I drew something like that I think.
>>7423510Nah, just make the blonde's head bigger, and give to the pink haired one bigger tits. That's all.
>>7423518>and give to the pink haired one bigger titsThats a man, dude.
>>7423536not with that pelvis
Today I scribbled. >and put a hand on backwards
>>7423403All the pros i see just draw shitBoxes are like training wheels>>7423449thanks
>>7423552>I don't need training tools i'll do it like the pros>says the guy in training
>>7423547Faggots love doing that for some reason. They give a "man" wide hips and feminine legs
Haven't drawn in a couple days, need to warm up again
Haven't draw anything since the year began but I have this small doodle from last month idk what y'all say
>>7423566this looks pretty nice, really like the colors here
>>7423569:-)
>>7423510https://voca.ro/1kNBk86NSHHL
Well first picture of the year, and it was a sorta redo of a pic from March last year so I decided to put them side by side.I still have a lot of issues with the new one, parts of the pose feel a bit off and the hands still look bad, but it just feels a lot nicer looking and the gesture and proportions work better. I still have a long way to go however but I am pleased to see my progress, though I dunno how my ability to pose/gesture improved despite not practicing it much.
Messed up the hair a bit and in the original she look just angry but now tired and angry but overall i think its nice. Although now that i look at it her face should be a little more compact on the vertical axes. Will try blocking in next time.>>7423492That's a very kind offer but i don't like discord. I only have it up when i expect a friend to message me but even then its the second option. If you still feel like helping, i want to draw daily and these beg threads are where you can probably find me. Hopefully daily.
>>7423586man this style looks pretty neat. Big fan of how the eyes look
>>7423568Two gross neckbeard dudes in cute nurse outfits and cat ears, pretty funny.
>>7423583>10k
>>7423600...I'm sorry 10k? Was that reply meant for someone else?
>>7423602he's making fun of your image size dumbo
>>7423606Oh. Well that's kinda petty and irrelevant.
>>7423611it's not, you should resize your images
>>7423612>>7423606>>7423600There.
>>7423599lol thanks!!
>>7423616Oh now it only contains a mere 17 million pixels
>>7423621Ain't doing it again.
>>7423625Yeah God forbid you put some effort in
>>7423628You can just look at the size of the image when you click on it, for me it doesn't go beyond the size of my browser. I ain't falling for your bait any further.
>>7423468fugly>>7423490nice>>7423498draw a box>>7423566nice
>>7423625If i have to adjust size i just shrink or make the window bigger and make a screenshot. Perfect size every time.
>>7423445drawing people kiss is hard when you never been kissed
>>7423644I have a fear of drawing kissing for this exact reason. At least theres alot of reference from it from other artists, particularly ones involving popular character ships
>>7423459not /beg/fuck off
>>7423644doing it doesn't help much because you do not see how it looks like. But I like your result
>>7423649thanks !!!
>>7423647these posts were obsoleted by the thread title change anon
>>7423586what if we make a public magma where we can draw together? idk i just need some kind of way to contact you when ur actually online, can be any program. Or maybe a public server on drawpile or on flockdraw. I guess I can just talk here.desu you're already on a good path and I won't need to teach you too much, mainly just meme advice to avoid that you seem to be influenced by, and to confidently continue doing things your own way, fk what everyone else says.
Do you guys notice wild variation in your skills depending on the day? Some days I'm fairly descent and have precision in my lines, but sometimes I can't seem to do anything right. This thing is an alien from a story I'm writing, they are eon old beings whose society has mutated so heinously they've lost all that was once natural to them. They take an obsessive interest in humans, sort of like a twisted vicarious way to feel something again. Their technological scraps revolutionize human society, and once these things are gone, it will lead humans in a similarly unnatural path of civilizational "evolution".
>>7423644her chin and nose should not be on the same side, the faces need to cross over each other unless they want to do some weird side-lick manuever. plus, the perspective suggests her chin should be further away from the viewer than his chin is
>>7423682>Do you guys notice wild variation in your skills depending on the day?I don't draw often enough to notice any patterns...
>>7423682sounds interesting! but isnt it like the movie aliens?
>>7423674I just don't like how time wasting discord can be. So it kinda huts in the 'just draw' kind of way. But at the same time some pressure could be some nice motivation. >and to confidently continue doing things your own waycoincidentally the theme of the game that the character i posted is from is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wctYnmYhj8.Request is out. Any other way would have the same potential issues.
>>7423689not really the theme but its just as popular as the actual theme.
Do my values of the reeds look to dark to you? The leaf in the centre just pops out too much and I'm debating to make everything else darker to compensate for it
>>7423692schizo, it looks fine
>>7423687These bioengineers, as the humans in the story call them, are more like gods than aliens, really. Don't want to go into autistic detail here, but their very presence distorts space due to the power of their intellect exerting their will on reality passively. Pic related is an idea of their ships, or outomated constructs that hold their inner domains. They're not vessels in a traditional sense, within are pocket dimensions. Also, is the name "bioengineer" used in Alien? I don't recall that. >>7423685Thats fucked, man.
>>7423568Same anon here, drew this Maka as a warmup yeaaah (used a reference btw)
>>7423702rlly like this one, gives off that vibe of like Homestuck background pannels and such
>>7423716Thanks man, no idea what Homestuck is though.
>>7423701Does it even look like the underside of the leaf, it doesnt make sense
>>7423726yes? dude are you high or something? go take a nap, you're becoming deluded
Hope the resolution isn't too big this time. I feel like I have more control over my shapes, still need more experience with Pyramids though.
>>7423635>draw a boxSounds boring, no thanks
cropped anime slop poster gotta be top 5 worst posters
>>7423759I fucking hate how artists are such pussies they don't reply directly to the people they call out, instead they have to be all coy about it.
>>7423462>>7423647>>7423658Im very sorry....where should I go then?
First artwork of 2025. I don't think I'm gonna make it bros, I'll try again next year.I also did a study of a hand. I watched a youtube tutorial of how to study a few months ago and I don't really remember it so I proably fucked up the steps.The first thing I did was just looking at the hand and just trying to draw it. Then I drew a bunch of lines over the hand and then tried to just draw the shape of those lines instead of the hand as a whole. Then I drew over the shape one to try and clean it up, I don't think I did very well though. I also wrote down where I fucked up like the thumb. I was supposed to do a final drawing where I only kept in mind my errors and not look at the ref at all but I'm pre-beg and a little bitch so I didn't do it.
>>7423807Yeah it starts like that, it will be painful for a while, but keep at it, you have the good process I think.
Moss from yesterday and today.>>7423682>Do you guys notice wild variation in your skills depending on the day?Yeah. Usually the variation is caused by more objective factors like whether I had a reference, but sometimes it feels random. Also, cool creature. I'd read that story.
It's not really a proper comic this time
>>7423811>cool creature. I'd read that story.Thank you. I'm better at writing than I am drawing by far, but trying to improve.
>>7423811That's some mighty fine moss. Makes me want to touch it. Markers or watercolor?
trying to learn how to draw coom, ended up making the arms way too short.On another note how the FUCK do you maintaing interest whilst drawing boring background shit?
Tried to do some coloring / rendering.I admit it was a bit more fun than expected, but I still have a long way to go, colors still looks dull and washed out.
>>7423821I'm a prude at heart, but I get the pragmatism of doing coomer art, appealing to the available audiences and so on. I like your use of line thickness. Good work on the tits and thighs. What else you got?
>>7423820Thanks! It's watercolor (and micron pens, for the smaller lines).
>>7423821Also,>how the FUCK do you maintaing interest whilst drawing boring background shit?I feel you, anon.
>>7423812sovl
>>7423811cute moss. watercolor on rough pencil sketch and then finish with fineliner?
First time I've ever drawn a still life(though I've done a few value studies before). Completely forgot about clipping layers in the beginning and decided to just do it without them. In hindsight, I shouldn't have, but whatever.>>7423804Ignore them, you're fine posting your stuff here, it is also the /int/ thread after all>>7423832Looks really good already.The shadows on her skin are a bit grey, which I think contributes the most to the washed out feeling, and you might also try going a bit darker in some places, like the white shirt. Currently it looks a bit flat and unfinished there when you compare it to way you rendered the sleeves
>>7423811Great stuff
>>7423807chin up anon
>>7423836im terribly inconsistent but heres some physical stuff
>>7423836and some digital
>discover pen pressure-controlled opacity>try it out>forget it's on when drawing my line art>have to manually fill in all the tapers so they dont look like shitLAST time I am using that feature
>>7423871The streched skin thing made me laugh really hard. What materials do you use for physical art?>>7423873Feels like a nightmare, in a good way. What does it represent?
>>7423879for physical stuff i just use paper and ink pens, any shading prob just is bad camera qualityas for the bottom drawing it really just started off as the face of the guy and everything else sort of developed around it, i dont really plan or think about most of my drawings i just let it happen for better or for worse lol
>>7423892>>7423821From your previous style, I think you could make a action oriented comic with coomer bait added in to attract mouth breathers. If you can't write a story yourself, get a friend who can write for you. They're kinda rare, but you could probably find one.
>>7423902Is that you being psychically attacked by the boxes due to drawing them too much
>>7423910i was drawing boxes and then drew a guy with a head that was too big so now he is the box-man
>>7423912Nah I think thats a cry for help. He drew too many boxes, now suffering psychic damage because of it
>>7423682The fake tree of life created by one of the human nations once the bioengineers left. Part of its skin was scorched off by a recent terrorist attack, revealing the what was hidden within. Not sure its visible here as I've had to lower the resolution a lot. This is not their first attempt at creating their own Yigdrasil.
>>7423918kino. i love when people use their imaginations
>>7423922>imaginationsThats about the one thing I got going for me lol
Monster
Is quickposes still one of the best websites for timed gesture drawings or is there a new king in town?
>>7423975Thats scary.
>>7423959you can try my public domain gallery there are tons of french granny prostitutes and manwhores.https://idlecanvas-wagmi.web.app/?mode=imagesuse the dropdowns to select whatever you like.
New year, new goals. Find myt ideal woman who looks this.
The character on the right needed more time in the oven but overall I'm fairly pleased
>>7424022I want to mating press and full nelson rape both of them until they're pregnant with my cum. Where can I masturbate to more of your work?
>>7423644How did you develop your artstyle. What was the journey you took to get to this point. I ask because your style is so far removed from the rest of this board.
>>7423918Misspelling Yggdrasil doesn't make it your idea anon
>>7424049Yeah it do. I spell it as such due to another aspect of the story, which was called Yig. Before I thought of including the tree of life and its artificial copies after coming up with Yig, and I'm linking the concepts. In my head it was subtle, but now that I'm called out it does seem pretty hacky.
>>7424017Thanks!
>>7424081I'm too tired to describe it in depth rn, and it sort of defeats the purpose of the story to outright explain it, but Yig is "the aspects of rebellion against what is Holy". Mankind's leaders foolishly seek to go down this path thinking they will find power and don't realize what they've done until its too late.
>>7424091>Yig is "the aspects of rebellion against what is Holy". Mankind's leaders foolishly seek to go down this path thinking they will find power and don't realize what they've done until its too late.So just hubris. Sorry but ancient Greeks were first
>>7424102What, Yig has a meaning in greek? I made it up too long ago to remember if I took inspiration or just pulled it from the ether.
>>7424102I read that again, nvm I'm just being retarded. Gonna head to sleep, brain is misfiring.
>>7424111What you're describing aligns closely with the ancient greek concept of hubris
>>7423682Yeah there is a lot of natural variation in everyone's ability and how they perceive it too. You could argue that one defining feature of a professional artist is that they can consistently produce good work.
more figures
against better judgement today's session was spent turd polishing. I think I'm falling into the same trap of before of trying to force improvement by spending more time on each piece rather than drawing boxes or circles or whatever I'm supposed to be doing
>>7424183Whats that text over the drawing?
>>7424191>You have a fluffy tail>Your next is extremely thickcopy pasted attributes from screenshots of some weeby roguelike game that I have been playing a lot of recently>20some weeks ago I decided to number my practice sessions, starting from 1 at that time. This was 19 >>7422975If I don't reach at least 300 before next year then I think I should accept that drawing is not for me
finished the mecha hand, I gave it a goofy robot man owner (i dunno how to draw faces)i just discovered drawabox, i'm going to grind away on that in the meanwhile
>>7424209What's the game?
>>7424040I guess I'm glad you like them...My twitter is @pxgchacha
>>7423566hello copper odyssey enjoyerlovely pixiv good job respecting the craft and all that
>>7424183i like it but i would make her slimer
are rulers a crutch?
>>7423702they were called engineers (unsure if the movie explicitly calls them like that) and they created the xenomorphs and humans.Either way: nothing new under the sun, don't think about it.
a quick study
>>7424321Rulers are a tool. A tool for creating perfectly straight lines. If you need to create a perfectly straight line, use a tool designed for making them. If you less than perfect lines you can draw it free hand. Being able to draw straight lines free handed is a useful skill to have, both for drawing straight lines and developing your hand-eye coordination and mark-making skills.. If you rely on a ruler to draw a straight line every single time, you won't ever fully develop these skills.Rulers can also be used for measuring. This much more quickly becomes a crutch, you should train your eyes so you can measure by comparing various angles, alignments, lengths, plumb lines, etc.In this video, Robert Watts demonstrates the many uses of a straight edge.https://youtu.be/Hbxk9elO2Z4?t=230
>>7424321Rulers are great for architecture but when drawing characters you only use them for props or some unusual shit.
>>7424291why is the bread shaped like a banana?
>>7424375I think it supposed to be a le baguette
>>7424371>>7424369I'm studying some perspective books and doing perspective exercises and studies without using a ruler or pencil for straight lines has been a fucking pain in the ass hence the questionI feel like practicing freehand lines would be better in the long run but then it takes me so much longer to undo every shitty mistake, doubly so when I'm practicing with traditional mediums rather than digitalthanks
>>7424382If you are trad then i totally get it i would probably be going insane if i had to rubber shit down after every mistake.
>>7424351Nice study anon let's improve together
>>7424382use ruler, if it become trivial try free hand
>>7424376baguettes aren't shaped like banana
>>7424266thanks anon. I really struggle with drawing body shapes that aren't rectangles so I think I am going to focus just on that for a while>>7424224elin
>>7424400It's not that hard here is what you can do.Do study on torso you don't need to go to big details it's okay if you know 3D shapes. Then learn torso from reference and try to draw it, if you don't understand the shape try to simplify it into 3D basic shapes or you can watch some tutorial on it but honestly you can learn simple torso in few hours of course it's not going to be accurate and everything but you only really need to know the curvature of spine and how to draw along of it so your pose dosen't look completely stiff. Also what i would recommend is use some 3D poser like posemy.art and just draw, rotate draw, rotate it. etc. It doesn't need to be perfect the whole point is just to get shape of torso in your hand once you get it from different sides and few poses you will be able to draw good enough torso. So don't care about clarity of lines just pratice shapes.
>>7424389you dont even draw so why dont you fuck off from /ic/
>>7423445Would I be able to escape state of formlet if I keep practicing like this?
>love doodling and drawing for fun throughout my life, nothing serious. Just on napkins and newspapers to kill time>even did some nautre paintings bob ross style but it's a bit pricey>bought a tablet and got downloaded some books to try my luck digital>the fun suddenly turns into frustrationI've been thinking of attending maybe an irl course where someone can mentor/teach me, anyone got experience with it? Generally in life I worked the best with someone’s guidance as I can always ask them for feedback directly, explain them my thought process and then have them help me unravel with what I struggle with. When I learn on my own I just feel lost and alone with my thoughts. I could ask some friends that draw for advice, but I don't want to bother them with my stupid questions constantly.Pic as proof. a tyranitar I tried to copy.
>>7424436If mentoring works for you then great. I have opposite problem i need to study alone and really understand what i do and do it slowly. Thing with mentoring is i would start asking mentor probably after like i would have questions or would try to get something on higher level let's say colors so i would give him questions and then some lectures. Because it's gonna cost you money and not a small amount if he will have to teach you everything if that's even possible because you will have to draw on your own.
>>7424424this is my work where is yours?
>>7424436It might be the smoothness of the tablets surface.
>>7424436put your brush's stabilization to 50 or 60, depending on your tablet the glass surface might be too slippery
>>7424436Spend a few hous playing with most the default brushes, and get familiar with some basic shortcuts, pick a neutral color for the canvas. I find thick textured brushes to be a little easier to get started with. And please dont be afraid to ask your friends about stupid shit.
>>7424437That's why I was thinking more of a course environment. It just feels like the beginning is a herculian task, but I imagine once I would get the hang of basic stuff I can continue on my own..>>7424447>>7424448>>7424459Thank you Anons. I use clip studio paint (got it on a sale) and it's honestly a bit overwhelming. I kinda realized i'm not just learning how to draw but also how to use the tools and the tablet itself. It's some wacom one I also bought on a sale.Should I really be pushing the advantages that something like CSP gives me? Or is that considered a bad habit? It almost feels like cheating compared to drawing on paper. On the other end it also feels different. Like, on a piece of paper I can just naturally turn it the way I like to draw lines but it feels so unnatural on a tablet.
>>7424465Limit what tools you use until you feel like learning new tools to do specific things. People go years without not knowing what certain tools do, sometimes even regretting it because it could've made certain tasks easier.Time spent drawing is never wasted though, find your own workflow and don't worry too much about the other fluff.As for getting used to a tablet, just draw moar lol
>>7424465>Like, on a piece of paper I can just naturally turn it the way I like to draw lines but it feels so unnatural on a tablet.Pick your poison.https://help.clip-studio.com/en-us/manual_en/270_canvas/Navigating_the_canvas.htm#1363960Also bind horizontal flip to something that's easy to press; like M for mirror.https://help.clip-studio.com/en-us/manual_en/270_canvas/Navigating_the_canvas.htm#1363981
So how do you guys place your references on a drawing tablet? I drew this the other day, not particularly impressive (though it does look like the subject, sorta, I was coming off drinking alcohol too) and obviously unfinished, but the main issue I kept having was I would draw a bit, but then need to move over to the reference image, then try to copy it, but constantly getting details wrong, and it just turned into an awkward game of drawing wrong, looking at it, then looking away and drawing it wrong etc. etc. How do you guys place your references to avoid this kinda shit happening?
>>7424470What kind of workflow do people have? For reference i'm a crippleneet, so I have a lot of time unfortunately. I just try to kill time to get past the days.>>7424481Thank you! Anything else worth keybinding? Like I have undo on the pen which i'll probably use a ton
>>7424487I put the ref on my second monitor and keep it there.
>>7424491>Anything else worth keybinding?NTA but keybinding rulers is useful. I have a ruler set to T and "delete all rulers" to Y.
>>7424424>>7424442>hour later still no work postedso you are seething nodraw and according to your rules should go, hehe
>>7424434You'll escape being a "formlet" if you stop mindlessly turning everything into inaccurate boxes and cylinders and frustrating yourself. Just draw like the very first drawing on the left. Start plotting down plumb lines before you draw and even while you draw, study simple anatomy so you know what forms to pay attention to and connect rhythmically, and think while you're drawing.>>7424487Depends on the reference. If it's something I want to copy accurately, I put it next to my drawing. If it's something like a landscape, environment, or outfit I put it on my second monitor.
>>7424487as close to the drawing area as possible, you want to beable to throw a quick glance at both, if you have to turn your head to look at another monitor or alt tab to another window or something, then you've failed.
>>7424506Thanks.
>>7424512>look at reference monitor>look at drawing monitor>forget what you saw 0.008 seconds ago
>>7424351What are you studying?
Can I download Marshall's Bridgman bootcamp from somewhere? I know it's on youtube but I want it as files
>>7424551The youtube version has considerably better audio than the pirated version from online courses. Just get a browser extension and pull it from YT
>>7424541I can't visualize the apple, please understand :(
Asked for feedback in other thread but it vanished, so I'm trying here.
>>7424551Install gentoo.yt-dlp
>>7424487usually I just put them on my phone.
>>7424561>Install gentooIf I have to spend 10 times constructing a command to launch my web browser, I won't have any time left over to draw
>>7424561Yeah IDIOT just change your entire operating system
>>7424572>>7424576I know artsy people are retarded. But come on.
>>7424588I know linux users are autistic and can't read the room. But come on.
>>7424588I'm not artsy dog that's why I'm in /beg/
>>7424561yt-dlp works on windows too: https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases/download/2024.12.23/yt-dlp_win.zip>>7424551get yt-dlp into a folder, open the command line, type `yt-dlp.exe https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf3dvAURflO-mJ-fbhWMBxs1pwX7zuhik` into the commandline, and it should Just Work™
>>7423459>February Literally me. >>7423505Surprised you drew the dong.>>7423555>>7423547That's literally how everyone, even the professionals draw traps though. The, ">draw girl, >call it a man" meme has basis in reality. >>7423682Yes. My art looks like it was drawn by different people ninety-nine percent of the time. Neat art and concept by the way.>>7423873The red and black really make this pop.
>>7424565How I can make that kind of realistic canvas effect? Possible in Krita?
>>7424615textured brush, canvas texture image. possible in any program with layers and textured brushes
>>7424565Good stuff man, keep it up. Just a bit more refinement and it'll be done. How long would you say it takes for you to reach that stage? And can you paint scenes from the heart or only with reference
>>7424541I am this, unironically. Unless I see both at the same time, reference is almost useless to me.
>>7424626Use real fat ass as reference?
>>7424630I cant find a model with an ass bigger than the example that doesnt evolve into a shapeless blob
>>7424626>having trouble making the ass bigger without messing up the proportionsMaking her torso slightly taller might help. What else you got?
Is there benefit from actually reading Bridgman versus just drawing a hundred more figures with a novice understanding of anatomy? Learning from doing?
How computer illiterate do you have to be to need esoteric command prompt apps to download shit from youtube
>>7424641Computer illiterates dont even know how to type in the cli.Are you trying to download shit with ytp-dl?
>>7424633I dont want to fuck up the proportions. If I try to make the torso longer to accomodate for more more fat then she ends up looking long like a snake.You can get away with it from the front because big enough breasts fool the average coomer but from behind it is more difficult>What else you got?In what sense?
>>7424558her left hand is on backwards, the pinky shouldn't be facing the body. her left forearm is too long.you're also pillow shading, and none of the light sources agree. her face seems to be lit up from the top left in front, her hair from the back, her right hand from the left, her left tit from ? somewhere ?, her left hand from the top right, etc. consolidate your light sources and it'll already read a bit better
>>7424646If you don't want to make the torso slightly longer, perhaps tweak head size. I still think if you're subtle enough you could change the torso length, just don't overdo it. I don't think the ass size is that much of an issue as it is to be honest, I'd instead work on the sideboob there, make them the same size or closer to it. Also remove that line at the top of the buttcrack.>In what sense?Other drawings in same style
uuhhhoohh I think I'm drawing
>>7424615I tired, it kind of not the same but with some brush tweaks I think it possible to make similar. play with patterns in texture settings
>>7424615https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGaVQaFI64k
>>7424649Got it, good feedback. Thank you for taking the time.
>>7424669best of luck, anon, you're doing neat stuff. work on your faces while you're at it, distinctly beg-anime styled symbols and nobody's gonna be into that, study some of your fave artists' faces
>>7424658What's the scissors for?
>>7424690FGM
>>7424690She stole her humans boxer shorts and cut them ino a panty shape. Also, she is making makeshift fishnet stockings out of yarn. That's what the scissors are for.
>>7424696Where did you get those ideas?
>>7424707Same place where you get your ideas for your drawings
>>7424696seems inefficient
This is by no means a serious attempt, it's more of a doodle since I haven't practiced drawing in god knows how long, so yeah it's shit. For drawing a semi-realistic comic however, can a semi-realistic face even be done at that size? (The head is about 1 3/4" in this pic). I am trying to avoid drawing cartoony/manga. I presume it can't be done with a full figure on a page/a pinup basically? This is 9x12" paper, I also have 14x17" paper but still. Is the only real way to draw the head much bigger for it to look semi-realistic? I haven't tried simplifying yet, which I've never tried to do before to be honest.
>>7424710She can't buy them at the store, no other option.
>>7424712Can't you just copy facial elements from idk, marvel comics or something? They draw tiny faces in a realistic way
I did the proko camel. How are the lines?
>>7424744dude, rotate the pic into the correct side before posting.
>>7424750It looked ok in my gallery
>>7424754* moooooo *
thoughts?the red is supposed to have a fucked up chest and I'm trying to make the blue look buff as fuck
>>7424775You have to work more on it, before anyone can say something about it.
>>7424775Looks like a guy trying to comfort/entertain someone on a weird throne. Will wait to see the sketch phase anon.
>>7424754Good sketch anon, now try to continue it.
>>7424797That's not the point of the exercize. It's just line quality
I have no idea how to draw faces of people I might just grind faces for a day before I keep going with this so I can capture Elon Musks' mug
>>7424132Yeah I got that upon second reading. In the context of the story these concepts are more tangible (yet hidden) aspects of reality, is what I meant. As technology evolves beyond the mundane it goes back to the occult esotericism of forgotten eras. Yig is not mere hubris, it is elemental rebellion against what is Holy. Yig has a counterpart which is not necessarily profane, a way to break from the cycle without malice, but I forget what its called. I'd need to read through my old notes, and I ain't doing that today.
>>7424809Who's the jester supposed to be?
>>7424812sam hyde
>>7424818Knew it lmao
>>7423445A deep seated fear of plagiarizing/tracing other artists work ingrained in me when I was a teen makes me now unable to study/copy artist's stuff I like nowadays at almost 30I feel like I could've progressed 5x as fast if I hadn't focused so much on doing master studies of dead master painters, and dedicated some of my time doing master studies on comic artists, illustrators or more modern references. I still managed to build a career out of illustration but I've been feeling like a huge dumbass who could've become a far better artist if I had dedicated my time to better study other stuff
>>7423869You're a dick.
>>7424843Damn you talk too much. I've never traced or used reference either, probably why we're still /beg/s.
>>7424847>used reference eitherngmi
>>7424847I work professionally with illustration, don't project your issues on me.I use reference from real life and do master studies from painters, just could never get into doing it with contemporary artists and I now feel like I'm doing something wrong whenever I try
>>7424696Without your context I'd assume it was gonna cut the condom in its other hand.
>>7424853>I work professionallyWhat are you doing here then?
>>7424853That doesn't mean much unless you post your work. I've met many "professional illustrators" that produce beg quality art but got a job in the industry because they own a pussy.
>>7424853>I workget the fuck out nigger
>>7424860literally every artist on twitter who charges up to $1000 for commissions, women live on easy
>>7424864>women live on easyNo use crying about it, 'tis the way of modernity. What we can do is find ways to make our art work. What I want is to get good enough that I can do a real serious comic and find a buddy who's good at writing stories. DC and Marvel are full of literal gay retards who can't write to save their lives, and many of their artists are shite as well. We CAN compete if we form small groups that include actual good writers, who seem to be exceedingly rare rn.
>>7424868Okay I get what you're saying but please, don't write like a fucking neckbeard.
>>7424872My bad, I may or may not have been day drinking, in my brain I'm being very funny.
>>7424858legit forgot there was a normal draw thread>>7424860>>7424863>>7424864>>7424868>crab for "I've never sent my portfolio to a fuckton of clients daily to get actual work in the industry" >le womenYou're all just lazy
>>7424880>You're all just lazywelcome to /beg/, leave asap for your own sake
>>7424880Not lazy, just reaaaly low IQ and genetically damaged.
>>7423505Very cool
>>7424868>'tis'tism
One of the ones I drew today
Self portrait, oil on canvas
KuroRecovering my ability to draw bodies after switching from paper to digital, very positive for what comes in 2025.
>>7424895>'tismYae, in large ammounts I might add. Don't stop me from noticing though.
>>7424880>deflectingNothings stopping you from doing a quick sketch. Even a simple sketch can say a lot about your mastery. But you won't and we already know why.
>>7424754Mouth is kind of fucked but looks pretty good otherwise
>>7424754Proko could never. Now draw kangaroo
Back to daily "fun"
>>7424917STFU!
>>7424917Top 10 wastes of mental energy:
>>7424917Explain yourself
I'm starting to think it's one guy samefagging replies...
>>7424917thanks for the reminder i had some "fun" too
Liquify really can fix huge mistakes even if you notice them too late, I should have started using it long ago
Layouts are fun. I seem to really like foreshortening, but admittedly the fingers were a bitch and even when they look iffy. The right hand fingers look poor but I really suck at doing the finer details when they are that far away. I'll see if I can get her ready for sketching and lining tomorrow.
>>7424917Not even trying, thats like 15 minutes. You will never make it at this rate...
>>7424928I think people are starting get genuinely worried for shape-anon
>>7424922What else do I have left?
>>7424932For some reason that made me laugh. The thought of this obnoxious robot shoving her hand right in POV's face
Alright bros, this will be my first serious gift to someone. I need to finish the reeds but the bird is done. Any issues I can still change? I might make the left side of the body and the top of the beak a bit darker
>>7424939She ain't a robot, it's just a visor over her eyes. But glad it made you laugh regardless.
>>7423445whould i draw with some stabilizer software? my linework is REALLY inconsistent even when i trace but i want to train my hand
>>7424950How is anyone supposed to advise without seeing your stuff first. Post what you got
>>7424941I think its good, no need to tweak. Good work, anon!
>>7424851ToT
>>7424950>hmmm train? or start using PEDs? hmmmmm
>>7424938that is a very nice head anon i wish i could draw like this
how the fuck does perspective work
>>7424973If it far it small. If it close it big.
>>7424950I have stabilizer set to 40someone here told me that this is a lot. But they're wrong.
>>7423468What a grody specimen. Somehow looks unnatural, even if she doesn't take testosterone.
>>7424973Hang them on a horizonline or something.
>>7424982wtf
>>7424985kek
>>7423518>>7423582Do you guys think I could make some dollars doos if I started making porn games and kept on improving?
>>7425014You're kinda late to that game, ba dum tss!
>>7425014The last thing the world needs is more porn.
>>7425014i've seen worse art in porn games
>>7425016Cringe>>7425017And the one thing I need is more money
>>7425017Better porn is what it needs.
>>7425014Not if gamedev is yet another project you need to learn.
I made another Kana
>>7425020Cringe but true
all I ever heard while trying to learn drawing and dropping learning it several times over the years are these "fundamentals". Drawabox, loomis, Draw Like a Sir, random tutorials etc. all talk about these fundamentals of "just practice", "simplify complex things into boxes and circles", "just learn perspective", "practice simple forms", etc. I'm tired of hearing the same things over and over and over again. I've drawn several sketchbooks worth of perspective studies, simple forms and line/circle practice everyday yet nothing ever works. I have since learned that some people are simply made for some things and not for others. to everyone who might say "it's not about talent it's about learning" or anything similar to that, from the bottom of my heart, go f yourself
>>7425026i wish i could draw like this....someday....
>>7425029hey hey you forgot the rest of the copy pasta where you have autism and tremors and are mentally disabled yada yada yada
>>7425033I do not know if you've read what I've written at all, from personal experience of wasting almost 2 years on trying to learn to draw (everyday, 3 hours) it does not take time and it does in fact take talent as even after all that time spent I still can not comprehend the slightest bit of anything. From gesture drawing over anatomy to backgrounds and values or materials or even texture to even the most basic of folds and wavy things to not understanding lightning and shadows. All topics I've spent hours doing studies on. So forgive me for I must say it, Drawing is, in fact, not something that is learnable.
>>7425022Brutal. What if it's just a shitty renpy vn to start and I expand from there?>>7425028Cringe and true that I need more money or that the porn game market is oversaturated? I can't imagine they're all masterfully made and actually worth playing for each respective fetish
>>7425029>>7425039You talk too much. Post your work so we can advise or help in any way or fuck off.
>>7425031You can do it right now. Trace it. Again and again till you can do it by memory.
>>7424976I just tried 40 and I am literally unable to draw lmfao
I wanna start uploading my sketches and stuff, do people still use devian art? I've never been into this world before, I'm getting excited about drawing every day and now I want to start a comic in the short term
>>7425042>Cringe and true that I need more money or that the porn game market is oversaturated?Both? You can do a quick game with no talent and no resources, but the over-saturation reality is unavoidable. Do you already have an idea? Is it gonna be a VN? How long? Do you have an idea already? You could do a VN in 5 minutes , then what? Put it on Steam and get all your accounts banned? Put it on DLSITE and censor all of your images in the game? Put it as a walk through in Pornhub?
>>7425045just like put pen on tablet broit's that easyhope it helps!
>>7425046I second this question. I've never posted anything online other than here. Due to fear of failure.
>>7425046Whatever the current twitter alternative is.>>7425054Make a throw away account.
>>7425048OK. I will make incremental efforts towards doing the best I can within this year and then kill myself before i turn 25 if I fail yet again. My vn idea is of an ugly bastard weab obsessing over Stacy and he kills Chad and hypno rapes her with the help of an anime pixie girl. My longer term goal if I don't rope is an ecchi pokemon style rpg where you collect and battle monster girls with lewd move animations. I hope that I'll still be here to see it realized
>>7425059>Make a throw away accountPeople would recognize my style after the first failure leading me to kms
>>7425059>twitter alternativeI don't think any of those managed to attract even 0.1% of twitter's userbase...
>>7425061>My vn idea is of an ugly bastard weab obsessing over Stacy and he kills Chad and hypno rapes her with the help of an anime pixie girl.Not gonna lie, that sounds insanely bad. And the monster girl rpg already exists as Monster Girl Quest.
>>7425064OK I give up. If there's an afterlife I'll maybe see you there anon, assuming the Calvinists weren't right and some people were dammed from the start
>>7425043I am sorry but I would rather not. I've gotten humiliated once and I've promised myself it wouldn't happen again.
>>7425046>>7425054DA is a good start for a BEG trying to put himself out there. But have into account that the problem with DA was that it was a bubble of artists talking to each other, an echo chamber. That creates artistic endogamy, resulting in the present aberration that DA is. What an artist, (who's goal is to "put himself out there") needs, is to use normie platforms like facebook, twitter (now not so much but still works), instagram, tik tok, YOUTUBE, etc. You need to interact with the consumer population if you wanna be "consumed". DA is for artists, you all gonna be doing and expecting the same from each other. Just have that in mind.
Drawing hands is the hardest thing imaginable holy shit.
>>7425039You probably just mindlessly went through the motions without thinking while drawing. You have to use your brain and think about what you're doing and why. 2 years without noticeable improvement means you did something wrong.
>>7425068then suffer in silence
>>7425072wait til you get to feethands will feet so easy then
>>7425065Uuuh let's not rush to kill ourselves, we're taking about making porn, so we're probably heading to Hell. Let's fix our souls before we die at least.
why is it so hard to find actual japanese mangaka drawing on youtube? i am tired of western slop tutorials by frauds, i want to see how actual masters do their jobs
>>7425096Its called Gatekeeping. Its very cool and keeps whitoids such as you in your place. Now stop crying and go draw something.
>>7425096He streams on Pixiv nowadays but you can see some of his work here.He is probably one of the most skilled mangaka you will ever watch work and he will even show you his modeling of 3d assets for backgrounds and how he uses 3d models as reference. Something other artists shy away from showinfhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw
>>7425096don't they do that in pixiv livestreams? i know the author of tsugumomo does it often and even shares story ideas that don't pan out because his editor told him to knock it off
>>7425104Tsugumomo women hnggggggg
>>7425086Souls? Hell? Can there be a greater hell than the one we were born into? Even if there is a God, he'd be able to peer into the human soul if he's as powerful as they say. And if so, He'd easily discern that it isn't His love or grace humans use as incentive to behave, its his power. He would know that should He ever try to test our loyalty by offering His head to us, or even if it seemed as if man could triumph over the divine, all the praises and hymns we ever sang in history would fall away to the truth, which is that man is a miserable greedy beast with no scruples.I'm going to try and make my little VN as a sort of last ditch effort to maybe make some scraps that I can use to improve my life or just keep up with inflation in these dire times. My pain is constant and sharp. I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape. But the spiteful thoughts of malice are a pipe dream, and I know the only comfort I'll find in this life is the cold comfort of steel as lead blows a hole in my chest in some indeterminate future point, because I'm too cowardly to do it through the head, and I'll be laying in the snow staring up at the sky, because I'll have to fly out to Alaska or another state with loose gun laws since I was in a loony bin during adolescence so it'll be troublesome to try it here. I can almost afford it today if I wanted, 2-3k for the ticket and firearm, depending on specifics.
Does drawing stops feeling like a chore when it gets easier? I think the reason I feel so unmotivated and procrastinate so much is because of how hard it still is for me to get things right. I don't have the same problem drawing easy things.
>>7425127>Even if there is a God, he'd be able to peer into the human soul if he's as powerful as they say. And if so, He'd easily discern that it isn't His love or grace humans use as incentive to behave, its his power. He would know that should He ever try to test our loyalty by offering His head to us, or even if it seemed as if man could triumph over the divine, all the praises and hymns we ever sang in history would fall away to the truth, which is that man is a miserable greedy beast with no scruples.Real.Anyways, if you want to test the waters you could get into the RPGMaker scene. Make a few (non-porn) fan games / blatant ripoffs just to see if your writing holds any weight since fans will play just about anything to get a new flavour of their favourite franchise. If they give your stuff praise then you could think about making your own plot and original characters
>>7425127
>>7424504>>7424389Saved to my 10zzz10 folderDraw more sci fi and fantasy waifus you russian bastard Ignore the haters. ;)
>>7424846How so?
>>7424846YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>7424846>:< Why? What makes you say this anon
>>7425134post something easy.
>>7425157By easy I mean when I don't care about making it look good and just do what I'm comfortable with. I made picrel for one of those oc redraw threads. It was fun to do. Differently from what I've been doing recently
>>7425134After two years sketching is still the most exciting thing. Everything afterwards feels much less fun, sometimes even a bit like a chore. It will probably not change and is just part of it. You just have to get comfortable forcing yourself to draw sometimes.
>>7425149oh and draw more sparth ships and the tech stuffits very sexy and makes my pp hard :-)
>>7425161This is better. do your comic like you dont care about making it look good.
>>7425167>do your comic like you dont care about making it look good.What did anon mean by this?
>>7425152>>7425155>>7425156>go to gym>see somebody struggling to bench bar>they are putting a lot of effort and heart into their training even though it might be misguided>be me>see this chump>I watch and wait for them to go get a drink of water>I place 2pl8>I start benching as soon as I see them coming>I look at them>oh sorry were you using this i only saw the barbell assumed it was empty>chin up kiddo>I smirk and walk away not even re racking my weights >I bet that dude thinks I'm so fucking cool right now
>>7425165>You just have to get comfortable forcing yourself to draw sometimes.Ah... So that's how it will be... Fine. I'll do it.
>>7425178/beg/s get mogged everyday, quit crying about it, maybe you'll learn something.
>>7425180The struggle is real, but it's rewarding
>>7425178There's this really faggy guy here that does that shit all the time. I haven't been here long and seen him do it at least three times. It's such a weasely move, it's like a window to his real life lack of character lmao. That's artists for you though, most are really petty and faggy. They bully like how highschool girls would bully, with fake niceness.
>>7425183>>7425180You just have to think about how you will feel at the end of the day if you played videogames all the time or made lots of progress on your drawing. That should help
>>7425167I can't. I want to make it™. I have to get good. Not only that, but it's also about the vision I have in my head of my manga. An action manga that looks beg just won't do. It needs to look mid at least.
>>7425149You are more annoying then the hater but you can draw>>7425166I did it like once , I do not know why do you believe it is something I do, it is like 0.02%
>>7425185I already know too well how it feels to waste my time doing nothing. That's what made me start pursuing art in the first place. But I always forget that heh...
>>7425184The guy drew over my image and I used it as reference to improve how my armor looks. I think that's pretty useful. I'm glad he did that.
>>7425186Fucking you better have a rough draft on paper already. If you're one of those retards who tries to hold all their ideas in mind till they need them, I would bet money on you not making it.
>>7425199What do you mean? You mean the story? Dude, i've been building this story in my mind for years. It's not going anywhere. I don't get your point.
>>7425187Heheheh. Well, you draw decently so I choose to engage with you. Most of these mongrels will ultimately amount nothing but you have potential to make great stuff. Keep posting, I enjoy your ideas.
>>7425210Lips and nose look strange. Need to be more subtle, the lines on the outside of the nostril especially.
drawing loomis heads from memory just makes faces all come out looking weird as hellvaguely human but uncomfortable to look at
>>7425070Insightful, I guess I'll just do everything to start, Instagram and DA. Thanks for the reply anon.
>>7425203I had a story like that in my mind, then when trying to write it (in novel form) I got blocked after 15 pages lol. Turns out I only had a concept but never actually thought of events or resolution.
>DeviantArtPajeet shitprompter site. It is unironically over>InstagramFilled with bots. They have even shown off last week how they are starting to introduce their own AI-made fake profiles to keep the site "diverse" or some bullshit.>PedoBaraag>WeebPixiv>NormalfagTwitter>Super normalfagFacebook or Instagram.
>>7425178You faggots are being overly sensitive, why can't you see this as inspiration?
fantasy of constantly angry gym-goers.>>7425178anyone who likes their craft.>>7425194
>>7425232Glad to know you just outed yourself for being so vitriolic. To think I actually admired your work.
>>7425234Do yourself a favor and just stop replying. People like this need these fleeting moments of validation to satiate their otherwise miserable lives. 90% of the comments in this chain are just same fagging.
Two antagonists from one of my stories. How would you guys reccomend I improve the designs? Just from appearance, don't feel like spouting off about backstory tonight.
>>7425225Yeah I kinda had the same issue when I started my comic. But I don't think it's a problem. I already figured out most of the important things.
>>7425178You forgot the part where they go to their house and cry themselves to sleep because they have no real friends they could lean on if they needed.
>>7425229He's a weak. Ic's gone soft, if he feels this intimidated by a random anon giving him answers to improve his shitty drawing wait until his ego gets shattered by younger artists and brain dead beginners overtake his skills effortlessly by much higher metrics. Getting a decent draw over is one of the rarest things you can get here, 99 percent of the time it's just annoying noise. Be greatful that good artistes like this russian man is taking the time out of his day to help you.>>7425232The sooner you realize that you can accept help from other people and not perceive it as a threat or an attack the better off you'll be.
>>7425251I see through your facade you rat. I've lost all respect I had for you.
>>7425241Their design is really good. But their expression/demeanor seems off to me. They don't give off villain vubes
>>7425252Good riddance mongrel. Worthless insects like you will never amount to anything anyway.
>>7425232god i wish i was that snakesexy little girl you got there
>>7425241>>7425259Btw, where can I see your stories? If you have any fnished
>>7425272go back to your containment thread
>>7425251not really a fan of that russian guy, he just copies AI slop. but you're right, /ic/ is so soft theses days. old /ic/ would just tell beginners to fuck off or tear their work apart. /beg/ was created to be a safe space for beginners so they would stop shitting up the rest of the board with there stupid questions and beginner scribbles.
>>7425259Thanks man. To be honest they're not that evil, LM-Rea has more of a cruel streak, but Bhaltra is just a good guy being forced by circumstance to join their group. He's been flagged as a deserter by his govt and accepted these pirates' help for the sake of his men. LM-Rea's backstory is more complicated and I'm too unfocused atm to tell it properly in a concise way. Basically a lot of angst and desire for revenge against the one who created and mistreated her, and she joined this organization on the promise they will help her get said revenge.
>>7425268I'll sleep soundly knowing I don't reference AI you cuck.
>>7425275Oh so it's true? I had my suspicions when I'd see images that look exactly like their drawings in the AI degen threads on /b/.
>>7425138I'm thinking of taking it a step further and going down the bdsm route where the weab can imprison the Stacy in his dungeons and have fun with her whilst avoiding law enforcement. Edgy maxxing>>7425141I know you secretly read it anyway you faggot
>>7425268Dude, you're talking like you think you're a super villain KEK. Shut the fuck up, even though you're talented compared to begs you manage to be the most cringe retard among us.>>7425272kys pedo
>>7425281>I know you secretly read it anyway you faggotNope. I suspect its cring reddit tier atheism though
>>7425283Copying AI isn't a skill otherwise I'd consider my master studies as an example of my skill.
>>7423445Anyone have that "just draw" image with the /beg/ holding a stack of papers and the /int/ guy having a mountain of completed drawings? I know it's vague but I'm hoping someone here has it
fricking frick i cant draw a head or body in proportion to save my life
>>7425281>Edgy maxxingWho would buy this? Do you think edgy esoteric stuff gets played on the radio? If you want money you've got to appeal to the masses
>>7425295there are a couple different ones but I've got this one
messing around with styles while trying to design a character for a project of mine>>7425165i agree with this, it's fun to begin an idea but after working on it for hours i just look forward to it ending lmao. v cool sketch btw, i always like seeing your stuff here
>>7425301Yup, it's that one. Thanks mate
>>7425299I feel like an alien around you degenerates sometimes. Why would you even CONSIDER creating something so worthless? Wanting to escape your job is not enough reason to create more mind poison to feed our sick, dying culture.
>>7425275>russian guy, he just copies AI slopsomething I never did and you just made up>>7425279low CR
>>7425279pls post proof
>>7425330it's so obvious, and you literally admitted to it last thread, buddy.
>>7423807Forget drawing complex things for now this will make you go only slower and actually lose motivation. Start with simpler shapes actually train traingles, squares, circles, lines then step up and go for 3D shapes and do quads, pyramids etc... this will give you a good start to actually draw body shapes since they need to be broke down into simpler 3d shapes you will learn this way much faster and you will have less struggles. Don't worry anon it's a pain in ass at start but you can learn shapes in few months then start learning how to draw different parts of body. Also don't over do it because most people draw 2-3 hours while doing studies and they will burn out and give up rather then that do hour of study then half or hour of drawing whatever you want and you will have this in bag.
>>7425333me and masturbating guy was joking, dummy
>>7425339
>>7425340
>>7425229I'll agree on that part that if somebody actually shows you how to improve your art it's the best way to actually get better however i would rather tell him that he needs to make his basic understanding of shapes better and then draw hands and other stuff since it's drawing hands without particular understanding how they work in the first place will make it hard for him.
Photo study. Feel like it could be a lot better, but just don't know what aspects could be worked upon
>>7425337You probably shouldn't joke about that since it's a very sensitive topic here and your ESL isn't helping either. Especially when your work looks like AI and when others have accused you of it and you didn't deny it. People will naturally get the wrong idea so you can't complain about it now.
>>7425305Hello, I'm Mitaka Kujo and this is my Stand, War!
>>7425299>>7425318Oh you're one of those puritan faggots. You wouldn't know sex appeal if it hit you in the face and retards like you always try to glorify mankind and religion as something its not. Good luck making your gay little scribbles retard, I'll push out filth to make your rotten world even rottener
>>7425301What is this trying to convey?
>>7425374Yeah go get more addicted to porn, you actual golem moron.
>>7425376Begs complain about not improving due to the absurd ammount of drawing it takes to evolve. Meanwhile ints have accepted their wretched fate and don't complain while trying to improve.
>>7425352what othershe pointed out my sword was a mess and joked what is the promt, sar. I answered it's img2img aka overpaint. He get itYou, who have nothing to do with any of this, have lost your mind and started running in circles screaming nonsense.
>>7425386yeah like i said, you english isn't good enough to joke about that. img2img is AI, are you using AI or joking.people will get the wrong idea when your work looks like that. you said i lied and made it up, at worst i got the wrong idea because the person's work that looks like copied ai isn't actually copied ai. the other people was many months ago. don't dress up like a duck and quack unless you want people to call you a duck.
>>7425376The first panel shows a beginner artist holding a stack of paper. They say they've been doing a lot of studies but they complain that their drawings still look like shit. They ask if there is some secret being hidden from them.The second panel shows an intermediately skilled artist with many more stacks of papers, piled high up to the ceiling. Instead of complaining they are actively drawing. They assure the beginner to just keep drawing and studying artists they like.This is to show that there's no secret or shortcut, just continued practice and learning. It also shows how beginners underestimate just how much studying you need to get good.
>>7425351he eatin da water malon on flying in da sky
da yoooz
>>7425301What's the level above /int/? What are they like?
>>7425411Tfw they found the Rape Tunnels™
>>7425414yeees XD
>>7425413Pros. They're all mentally ill in one way or another. Usually insanely petty. Ok maybe not all, but most.
>>7425414>Tfw the goyim found the Rape Tunnels™I fucked up my own joke damn it all
>>7425386Ignore him, he's a retard. He ain't a real one like us, G. Will you ever draw more adventures of your robot girl and the mechanical egg?
What is the best course/tutorial to learn how to make illustration with background also coloring? i can draw character in the white background fine but lacking skill on how to make complete illust with background especially when i need to consider mood like evening,morning,night etc.
>>7425395I usually don't interact with strangers, and the person I was talking to had no problem understanding me. Only problem is your inability to understand context and weird obsessiontranslated from silly /beg/ "looks like AI" just means "looks like a popular artist/artist who existed long before ai becoming a thing." You will tell Sargent looks like AI.
>>7425447ok, keep making jokes about using AI then. the joke is only funny if there is some truth to it, that it looks like AI. don't complain when people think that you use AI.
>>7425330I'm not talking about you I'm talking about the other person.
>>7425447This board unironically has been ruined foreverIf you're a little better than them (which is dog shit)then they will compliment you. If you are far superior to them, then it mogs them and crushes their ego, leading them to think you are cheating somehow. Traced, 3d, now AI. AI is so flexible and random that it can be used as excuse now instead of acknowledging real proud Russians Artiste's like you exist :-)
ive mastered the esoteric knowledge of gradient transparancy in tabletop simulator, also how to use box colliders. big achievement for me the retart
>>7425464This entire conversation started because somebody did the equivalent of dunking on kids at the school playground as an adult and when they got called out threw a hissy fit about "mogging". It just reeks of insecurity and a need for validation. (You) can rationalize it however (You) would like, but the it doesn't change the very apparent reality to anybody who actually reads all the replies.
>>7425464If we give an inch to AI slop, they'll take a mile and take the whole board down with it. Some friendlies may get caught in the crossfire but it's a necessary evil.
>>7425469Nothing posted here is examples of AI slop, though. If you're reliant on such superior tools as you claim, why would they be here posting? The other issue is that all the paintovers were done with a pretty good context and understanding of elements in the image, some he even changed to get a better result. If you actually knew how to draw well and weren't a stupid retard bitch boy you'd realize that AI by its very nature is random and cannot give you repeated, flexible and targeted results in a consistent style. Go draw.
>>7424897>>7424902i like it
oof but also pretty good for me
>>7425134you are in fact 100% correct. I draw a ton now because its easy and light weight for me, and comes out nice more or less on the first try so its fun and painless.You have to figure out how to make it easier, and build using easier things (while still accomplishing what you actually want.) Doing stuff you already know is easy, and doing it a bunch you'll refine the method.>>7425161this is cute you should just do stuff like this. that other thing i didn't care about but this thing is nice. Maybe you need to learn to make your comics in a way you enjoy it, just like how you enjoyed making this drawing? Then your heart will be in it. Easier said than done, but its possible.
I will blame the screenless tablet for my downfall
>>7425490you better draw some toska-chan instead
>>7425490rare, a SOUL mogging
>>7425301y'know i hated this one because I thought it was saying good artists have their ability because they draw a million more drawings, which is bullshit, lesser artists work hard as fuck, way harder than any good artist, (drawing is very heavy and exhausting when you are bad) but still aren't good. Its actually infuriating that they would insult our work ethic. But if its actually just saying ints draw a lot and do a lot of studies, which I mean, yeah they do, that doesn't seem bad at all, very accurate actually. I guess I didn't see the "int" arrow.
Gonna make a clothed version and put it on a webpage where you can click and drag the clothes off. I also want to try recreating a drawing in Inkscape.
>>7425065>1 Corinthians 6:9-11Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people—none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.you'd be going to hell even if the calvinists weren't right. Porn artists are probably all going to hell.
can feel the art block coming on so I made a doodle to try and stave that off, hope this is just a weird one off...
>>7425413
why does my drawing look like a simpson character >>7425352>You probably shouldn't joke about that since it's a very sensitive topicLMAOOOOO
>>7425178and one of the benches has been gatheirng cobwebs for a century because sargent left his plates on it
I'm looking forward to when we rename the thread /beg/ & /int/ & /pro/ just to shut the nodraw spammers up like we had to do the last time.
>>7425152comparing drawing to the gym is a sign you're ngmi
This thread is even shittier than usual. Is /ic/ dying?
>>7424400
>>7425601Goood stuff !! Im glad you actually took advice and work on this keep drawing like this and you will get this in your hand soon enough then drawing bodies will be easier for you.
>>7425622posing software is something I should try. I didn't use references, only tried to draw the same pose from several angles. Posing software or even one of those drawing manikins might have helped maybe
no matter what i do the colors won't match the ones on the screen. i printed it on paper but it came out too dark. i might be colorblind ??
what went wrong ?
>>7425632>>7425630second image is a lot more greenhow is the color grading on your screen? does the image look the same on your phone as it does on your screen? if it looks really different you can try adjusting monitor settings, or replace it if your monitor is old
>>7425629Just use those online free versions or if you really like to buy one i have easy pose bought from steam but to be honest it's not that great. Posing softs are great if you have specific pose that you would like to draw but you didn't practiced it so you can make it in the poser and then actually learn how to draw it.
>>7425638wow thanks! so jack up the contrast
>>7425629basically this is how it looks like
>>7425643I didn't get what you what you were matching with and why you posted the photo if it was digital. paper will always be "darker" because display is lightbulb. contrast is what everyone fails at the start. and more green
Today's warmup
>>7425447What the fuck are you talking about you mental nigger
>>7425478She's cross-eyed, anon :(
>>7425447There's always one fucking retard who starts shit when he's not even part of the conversation, i honestly think it's just one person on the entire board who does this and then samefagsThey way I constantly see the same retarded crabby pattern of behavior
>>7425683There's at least a couple of them. But like 10% of this board definitely causes 90% of the problems.
ITT: Defend self-admitted AI tracers
>>7425696and they never post their work, i feel like the better your art is the more chance someone will start shit with you (aka the same fucking retard)
>>7425667What does it matter if she have great tits.
>>7425337>hurr i use img2img>it means overpaint guys>my english bad>its just a prank bro???
>>7425718kys retard, pyw
>>7425718getting worked up about such banalities means there is a deep rooted dissatisfaction within you. Do you want to talk about something, anon?
multiple anons disagree with me...? that's unpossible! must be samefagging.
doing some doodles of my Cyberpunk characterwhat are you doin
>>7425725>still typing and behaving the exact same wayYeah, im sure youre not just one nodraw faggot, pyw
>>7425738>what are you doinhaving a meltdown on /beg/
>>7425738Very good head shape and faces, anon. Personally I don't like that hairstile on the girl, its over done and stinks of "I'm sooo modern and cool even though I'm 35".>what are you doinTrying to think of something to draw, grossly overslept and now my brain feels like its full of tar.
>>7425806wrong file lol
>>7425662
I made a Chiaki (Danganronpa)
>>7424658I think it's done
>>7425841Damn anon I wanna fuck that cat, good job
>>7425844Thank you, sir!
>>7425841I'm sorry, but I believe your rendering is somewhat reducing the attractiveness of your images. at gray stage, it looks great, but the final sort of loses focus and gets messy. cant explain. Maybe it's just me.
>>7425841for me, it's cinderace
>>7425854I'm not trying to argue against that, if that is true I wouldn't know how to fix that. Maybe someone here knows better
>>7425865Just change the color or at least value of the bed or whatever she's laying on
>>7425876more than I have drawn in this year. GMI
Been studying some painterly styles I like and tried applying it to a photo. Face and hair are still the bane of my existence, but I'm not too unhappy with the skin at least. Also, for future reference, what's the rules on nudity in this thread exactly? I'm assuming some boobs are ok since you see them regularely here, but where's the line?>>7425194He did that for my head studies as well, and seeing what he did different with my base is more helpful than just having stuff pointed out in text to me.>>7425876kinda sus, not gonna lie
>>7425364hell yea, thanks for the redraw, i'm gonna try and go back over mine keeping some of what you did in mind since i really like the consistency between both you have which i couldn't get. (and also add a little to her design to differentiate her lmao)
>>7425480>Maybe you need to learn to make your comics in a way you enjoy it, just like how you enjoyed making this drawing?I can't do that. The artstyle I want my comic to have is way above my current skill level. I'm pushing myself with every panel in order to get better. I want to draw like Gamon Sakurai (picrel). So... I have to go through all this to get there.
>>7425655Amazing work redliner!
>>7425134You're not making it easier for you neither. In that page you're drawing the same guy in almost the exact same environment/pose like four times in a row. That's not efficient for your creative and physical stamina. You need to do more with less visually.
>>7425881>>7425884fugg :DD
>>7425874Oh yeah that would make character to pop good idea.
>>7425895Im not really sure if this is true for Gamon but most mangakas even if they could pull this whole shot themselves have people who actually help them to finish pages. Yes drawing manga is not easy and you basically spend drawing daily more then 8 hours. Would recommend to check this shortshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0caNV7i6Yg8&list=PLdxO9Fs4QPqG6fxyIbWYbsv3RCSanZqqO&index=2or perhaps if Gamon have any recorded stuff then check it out directly.
>>7425910Yeah I thinking about changing two of those panels.
Advice on how to do this type of lighting properly? I have no idea what I'm doing.
She looks weird, right?I'm not sure why, some redline-chads around show me?
>>7425937The light should be covering all the area outlined in red. That's the only thing I know heh
>>7425943Use references and study. It's not easy to pull off good lighting and colors.
>>7425364>>7425889my attempt at taking some of the shading / face adjustments whilst still retaining the style i wanna go for, also added details to the design while still trying to keep it plain in the way i want it to be. thanks again!
>>7425940Is just her left cheek and eye that needs some work. I tried fixing it, but it's not that good neither. Whenever you have doubts about which part of a drawing is wrong, try to guess which part it is and cover it with your hand. If the drawing looks fine without the area you covered, than that's where you should work on.
>>7425940
>>7425981Eye is too small and should be slightly higher in the socket.
>>7425985show us.
>>7425987What? You want me to download that and edit it?
>>7425997Looking good so far, gonna wait to see how it turns out.
I am very not confident about the green one, but on what picture you can see what is happening
whats wrong with the proprtions here?
>>7426005Proportions? I dont think so. But something is up with the lower half.
>>7426002Send those pics separately.
I'm very new to rendering, I'm trying to figure out how the swimsuit was rendered here https://x.com/TheTrueAernius/status/1874347858817937779Is it a specific brush? I don't understand
>>7426002Top right reads the best out of these I think.
Why arent you using 3d models?
>>7426005I think the neck is too long, but I'm too bad to properly redline it to be sure >>7426016don't want to. Maybe once I'm better
>>7426016I'm being held back by a false sense of morality
>>7426012how about now>>7426017tracing it out under the arm seems fine>>7426016cant think about any reason other than i want to be able to do it without 3d models
>>7426018>>7426017>>7426021Mangakas of insane skill levels use 3d models.
>>7426018machines stealing jobs from hardworking human models is wrong.
>>7426022Fuck wrong one
>>7426022I know, that's why I said maybe once I'm better. Makes sense to use when you know what you're doing to speed stuff up. But I think it's better for me to learn to draw it on my own first.If you're not talking about drawing over it/tracing but just referencing, it just takes too long to set up to be worth it over just finding reference for me>>7426021>tracing it out under the arm seems fineI could also just be wrong, just thought it looked a little familiar since I tend to make necks overly long myself. I do think it looks fine in that one, so maybe it was just the angle she was looking in that threw me of
>>7425413they have only two small sketchbooks done, but they have talent!
>>7426016Because I don't want to.
>>7426022So?
New thread soon?
>>7426022some do some dont, i want to be like the ones that dont
>>7426042lol. lmao
Make it yourself before asking someone else to do it if you're that concerned about it
>>7426045>Y.. You don't want to cheat?! Heh... Sucker
>>7426041I don't think so
>>7426049I don't want to have those dogshit OP's. I'll let someone who knows how to do them do it
>>7426016I don't get paid
whats a good size canvas? 3000 x 3000 feels small to me
>>7426059seems fine to me, most recommendations I got are under or at 4k, but if it feels too small, go bigger. Just pick whatever works for you
>>7426002What brushes do you reccommend for lighting? Gonna try to apply what you showed there in the bottom image.
>>7425895If you want to improve, its better to work with fun than without it. Its like how buisnesses that chase profits are better than government run buisnesses - chasing profits is intrinsically motivating to buisnesses, just like chasing fun is to artists. ppl with intrinsic motivation naturally draw more and perform better than ppl operating off pure willpower or government will. You can also see in the work when it was fun for you, and it improves the quality imo.basically... putting yourself through shit to get to a place you wanna be might actually be a bad idea. Winning is fun, and winning teaches you everything you want to know, so It can actually be better to try win through having fun with it. Like its a bigger problem not to have fun. do u git what I mean?however, if you want to draw that like that guy, you are probably right, his artstyle doesn't seem very fun to draw (to me anyways.) So if u wanna draw like that ur probably gonna have to draw from pure will i guess.
>>7426071Any brush, it's mega messy. If you want to bring light, it is not just different colors. Make dark darker, make light brighter then not light. Light falloff is very fast, the source is brightest, because it is the source.
speaking of fun i dont feel like finishing this shit
>>7426106MAKE THE TITS SQUISHIER
>>7426055This threads pretty much done I'll wait until the next one to post my new works :^)
>>7426106I think you should finish it, I like how it's going, but the tits are definitely too big, may I ask, what do you think I can improve on mine? >>7425839 I think I kinda think the ass is a bit too big lol.
>>7426106>i dont feel like finishing this shitnooooo
>>7426132i did at first but they looked weird>>7426144idk how to say this but like, you need more flow basically? like the forms need to transition better into eachother, my version was an attempt at that but maybe i can show it without changing the angleI dont think the ass is too big thats like saying an angel's wings are too big, it's not anatomically unsoundI realized I HATE doing fucking lineart im never doing this shit im gonna sketchmaster forever
there is no hope for me is it?
>>7426056why are you even worrying about it when the last thread is still up
>>7426159eh fair enough
>>7426158mogs me
>>7426156Thanks that's insightful, I think you're right, maybe it's because for me it never goes as planned and I have to keep going back and erase things, either that or not enough confidence.
>>7426156I meant something like this.Stand proud anon, you are strong.
I really don't know what I am doing lol, I guess it's alright for a first OC
>>7426188>maybe it's because for me it never goes as planned and I have to keep going back and erase thingsthis might be my naivety speaking, but if you cant draw the pose under a minute it might just be a bad pose, like if you're doodling without making progress something is very wrong at the foundationi cant count the amount of times i wasted my time trying to draw some pose but then I fired up some 3d modelling app and found out its literally not possible
>>7426206bigger really is better
4 months difference. Right was more of a paint along with colour picker. Progress is slowing down
>>7426292Very nice propgress man.
Another round of heads, focused on quickly getting the forms down this time. Still slower than I'd like(1-4 minutes per head), but so much faster than my last attempt. I want to say I've understood the values and planes a little better. Still struggling with women. Tried to exaggerate the features I've identified in the middle right one, but it became a mess cause I was just guessing>>7426292Very nice.You can really see the progress in light and texture
>>7426292unfortunately, birds are not important
https://youtu.be/iyyx9xYCsMg?si=3Cj_e5PvSJwsHcglmakima anon...not like this :(
>>7426076Having a fun is easy. But I don't think I can improve like that. I'm too lazy. If I go for fun I'll never try hard enough.
>>7426306Lil' BITCHNIGGA, your mum is not important! Leave that man alone!
does pic rel have soul?most of my drawings are practice, but I get a good idea, I find it hard to break out of study modeI find what has soul is not focused on looking "correct" which is the case for study>>7425865too much detail/visual infoeverything is competing for attentionuse as few values as possible, saturate most of your colors>>7426158drawing is the hardest when you havent seen the first jump in your ability compared to when you startedif you can get through the first year or two of HATING everything you draw, results will keep compounding so you're probably going to make it>>7426314improving specific fundies just takes time, even if you are exceptionally gifted, it will stake take years minimumI've been drawing my whole life and taking studies seriously for 4I tried hard this is all I have to show for it so far, its okay but I dont think you'll ever stop wanting to improve>>7426302do 100 heads fast just focusing on placements. That combined with longer (3-4 hour) focused heads helped me alotits not enough to do either or
>>7426330>do 100 heads fast just focusing on placements. I probably still lack the stamina to do 100 of anything in one sitting, but might try to push as far as I can. >That combined with longer (3-4 hour) focused headsI was planning on doing this, just haven't been back at it for long enough to get around to everything. Been focusing more on poses and full bodies since I find those more interesting at the moment.>its not enough to do either orDefinitely. I think most of the improvement in the quick heads came from the confidence in shading I got from the previous 4 hour study here>>7425884 .Also>does pic rel have soul?While the style doesn't appeal to me personally, I think it still has a certain charm to it, so yes I think it does.
Guys where's the new thread... Somebody please make it already. I don't know how to do it myself
>>7426365We have been going for too long, nobody is allowed to be a beg anymore.
>>7426365>copy text from this thread's op>go to board overview>"Start a new thread">fill in subject and comment>replace "previous thread" in comment with a link to this threads op>Create thread image>upload it under file>solve captcha>postNow you know, go do it anon, I believe in you
>>7426365go draw
>>7426374>Create thread imagethis is the hardest part you just treat it like it's nothing
>>7426376I drew already for next thread
>>7426377Look at this >>7415559, and you'll realize it's a thread all the same
>>7426379we don't need the first 100 replies to be about OP image and how bad it is
>>7426381That seems like the problem of those anons. If they wanted a better image, they could have done it themselves
>>7426379Making a good thread image is important anon. It's too much pressure for me
>>7426382Thus I"ll leave it at more capable hands
>>7426368It's over....
>>7426273>Yeah bruh if you cant get a figure down with within a single minute with perfect proportions it is ngmiReally?
>>7426378give us a preview of it
>>7426391Nuh uh. That might have impact on my potential (you) or crit economy
>>7426394When did you find out you were gay?
>>7426398I'm just joking. It propably won't even get a single reply, but seeing that the last thread is almost page 11. Might as well just wait for new thread that will pop up any minute now.
>>7426384>>7426385>>7426377>this is the hardest part you just treat it like it's nothingIt was nothing. Waiting on the timer to tick down, but if anyone wants to snipe, here's the thumbnail I'm gonna post it with. If you don't like it, you have 3 minutes to post a better one
>>7426273>i cant count the amount of times i wasted my time trying to draw some pose but then I fired up some 3d modelling app and found out its literally not possible>he stops drawing just because some shitty code told him to>he only draws real lifeNGMI
>>7426406lmfao
>>7426414>>7426414>>7426414>>7426414>>7426414New thread
>>7426406here
>>7426388the pose is bad, it's not you who's ngmiRefining it with anatomical details can take hours but just getting a blob down on the page shouldn't take long, it doesn't look like the original artist ever got past this stage>>7426407Pyw nodraw
>>7426423Not even my blobs can get that good in a minuteGod I suck so fucking bad
>>7426002The bottom down looks 100 times better already why the fuck did you ask for help if you can just do it already this good ?
>>7426016I don't have money for paid version or pro version or whatever....
>>7426613that's a different guy
>>7426621>>7425943not this one ?
>>7426622he does paintovers but doesn't reply to the original for some reason
>>7426624ah okay im an idiot then i thought its the same guy.
Should I start learning to do shapes first and read Keys to drawing alongside with it ? Or should I jump to figure drawing and shit despite not knowing how to draw at all ?
>>7426956If you havent already go through drawabox. The steps of learning to draw geometrical shapes is what you should pay attention to. or you can look at the pinned post. Pic unrel
>>7428534thanks mate, yeah my bad should probably have checked it out
