They got bullied and deleted their account.
don't draw generic slop, "problem" solvednow fuck off back to twitter
this is what happens when /begs/ and nodraws redline
>>7432575Also, I doubt anyone named "_9_sp" gives a shit about closing their presence on a whim. They're probably back up and running on another account.
>>7432578This. Being unable to *actually* spot AI is the mark of an NGMI.
>someone thinks your art is AI>instead of shrugging and say no with likely easy proof you kill yourself on the spotStupid twitter drama, fuck off
>>7432575What was that faggot redlining ? There is not even a trace of AI.
This is a big chance for /ic/ crabs to accuse artists they don't like for using AI and make twitter normalfags bully them
>>7432575To be fair to the retarded spotter AI pretty much has the "anime girl on white background" market locked down. You probably goon to AI at this point and don't even know it.
>>7432592If that faggot at least had some experience but he is literal prebag check out his twitter(X) profile he have no idea what he is talking about.
>>7432592If they're NSFW it's relatively easy to take any account down if you know what you're doing.
>>7432578It's not even a redline. He just wrote them comments in red like a elementary school teacher.
>>7432575Why are artist so fickle though, just grow thicker skin.
>>7432592Let's start with hews
>>7432575This clown did more harm to his fellow artist than AI ever could, and at the same time outed himself as a beg who can't even spot the very AI slop he hates so much. What an absolute faggot
>>7432598You can't just accuse fucking people of cheating if you have zero fucking proof of it this is not some politician. Also artist was Japanese so he played it like he always wanted to leave so he deleted twitter. Not everybody is used to 4chan type of discussing methods where people call each other niggers and jews and don't mind it.
This is unfortunate but wait a minute.>retard says something retarded>twitter mob goes with it and witchhunts the artist without a second thought>retard realizes he was retarded>twitter mob also goes with it and witchhunts the retard without a second thoughtHow come nobody is seeing who the real villain of this story is?
reminds me of when some /ic/ retard tries to redline
>>7432606First of all it's blue sky and second of all attempting to assign agency to a group of anonymous people is about as useful as assigning agency to a cabbage leaf. "People" might as well be a semi-conscious thundercloud, it's pretty much always the individual's fault for calling on it and gaining its attention.
>>7432608If anything, it's a lesson in not trying to make the mob your personal army. They will turn you if you give them reason. He fucked around and found out.
>>7432609no, the lesson is to never admit you're wrong
>>7432608Normalizing witchhunts over minuscule shit like this with zero proof besides a single baseless tweet is subhuman behavior
>>7432618It's the most human thing I can think of
>>7432622It's a black thing. They do it all the time, some dude tells them some random bullshit and they shoot up the place, no questions
>>7432608>First of all it's blue sky
>>7432618First day on planet Earth? Also, >Using the term "witch hunt">"It's a black thing"Zero self awareness, kinda lending credence to the theory that most people are about as sentient as lizards
>>7432606the retard deserves it though
>>7432626Sorry, let me make it simpler for you: Hatemobs are for low iq subhumans like yourself, niggers or religious zealots. Got it? I know that really hurts you, but at some point you will understand it.
>>7432631>muh hatemobs>reeeeeeeeeeeeeee niggers and subhumans"people" like you are the reason you have to deal with niggers lmao retard
>>7432631Oh okay "retards like you" meanwhile you have zero frame of reference for the terms you use. There were no black witch hunts, retard. And no, just because niggers on Twitter cancel each other over dumb shit doesn't mean you get to escape the millions of white Christian retards who do the same thing because someone listened to Black Sabbath.
>>7432575the ai accuser are retarded but so is the artist here. why close your fucking account? there's so many ways to prove that you don't use ai and show how retarded this fucker is. If you're this weak mentally you deserve to be bullied.
>>7432588Such is the price of Asian Jeans
>>7432631>I know that really hurts youDid your father leave you at age 6?
Ok but srsly if someone accuses you of tracing/prompting AI, wat do?>show making videowhat if i dont use CSP/procreate
>>7432656Ignoring retards, or simply telling them to fuck off is always an option. So many people forget this simple fact.
>>7432656Shrinkle your dick and balls as much as possible post your half-sharpei half-acorn-glued-to-a-pelvis and claim that's your process.
>>7432575the most odd thing in the guy's image is the face which clearly was traced from the manga/anime, the body is too bad to be 100% traced. his account was very weird too, he only had 1 image up at a time and a bazillion followers. deserved for being a faggot
>>7432664pyfw
>>7432575Bad enough when most of the shitters that falsely accuse artist for using al slop are non-artist, but another artist doing it makes this even worse
>>7432656Record yourself switching layers on/off and moving them around, and show the sketch. Or learn OBS and say you'll record the process next time.
>>7432656tell them you don't care
/h/ here, what do you guys think of AI being used to "save" a beloved series that has been abandoned by the original artist? Pic related.And before you asked, it's Tachibana series by Jin (he went MIA for years). I know this is kinda unethical since the guy who made this AI doujin sells it on dmmhttps://www.dmm.co.jp/dc/doujin/-/detail/=/cid=d_500114/
>>7432656record yourself drawing it again
>>7432689horrendous, further proof that the age of artists is dead.
>>7432608First of all>about as useful as assigning agency to a cabbage leaf.>"People" might as well be a semi-conscious thundercloudLol'd at both, idk what's wrong with me.Second, I see your point, there's a concept in psychology about how mobs work and how their agency/responsibility is diluted. But my question here is how are people not aware that the mob exists as an entity and is technically the true cause of the harrassment? You put the blame on the artist for calling AI and that's fair, but should it not be for the mob, none of this would have happened in the first place. Regardless if there's a blame for calling the mob or not, there shouldn't even be a mob to begin with.
Just don't draw shit that looks AI generated. Anything that looks AI adjacent is usually bad anyway. Super rendered anime art or whatever
>>7432695>put the blame on the artist for calling AINo, actually I put the blame on anyone who engages meaningfully with the Internet at large. Since the late 80s the formula has been clear: more popular=more blind hate. Studies now are showing that the pseudo anonymous nature of the Internet makes people go crazier than they might in person, and that this effect is amplified and even gamified on social media so ok sure, maybe "the science" isn't settled and easily accessible in a book but it's still something you can know intuitively, like a person new to Australia can glance at a funnel spider and without any academic research or experience say "that bitch is poisonous."
>>7432689Funny thing, I thought about this minus the AI. Taking a manga that has been abandoned and taking it for myself, injecting my own ideas because the original author is retarded
>>7432656Post sketches and WIPs instead of only finished pieces. People love that kind of stuff.
>>7432688One way of scaring away future commissions, so less competition. Thanks, anon
>>7432656I was accused of both prompting and tracing AI, but it was more about an act of vendettafagging than anything, so it didn't go anywhere.>general has a resident anti AI anon and a resident AI poster but overall nobody cared about AI posts since they were scarce>post one image I thought it looked cool despite being AI, saying it looks cool even though I'm a drawfag and I see no real worth in it since it's AI slop>resident anti AI anon jumps at me and tells me I'm not a drawfag simply because I don't seethe at AI art like he does>show him proof that I'm indeed a drawfag and reiterate that I don't see any value in AI art despite calling pretty pictures pretty>anti AI anon accuses me of proompting even though art shows no signs of such and anon doesn't point out at any>after some back and forth, resident anti AI anon becomes the resident AI schizo and wrecks havoc in the general for two weeks, getting BTFOd constantly by passerby anons>I continue to draw and anons are pleased with my draws>AI schizo goalposts accusing me of tracing AI but it doesn't go anywhere again>AI schizo naturally vanishes from the generalShit was messy lmao.
>>7432689For you and your eyes only, whatever, but posting it online and making money with it then fuck off. You are just a fucking leech
>>7432719kek bejitafag being based for once
>>7432720Agreed. Japs are fucking retarded for allowing it considering their creative industry. It's like they want everyone to take it using AI for profit
>>7432703>No, actually I put the blame on anyone who engages meaningfully with the Internet at large.Cant argue you there lmao.You know what my problem is, though? That people cant look at things for more than two minutes and prevent getting caught in the mob mindset. Like I was also caught in the mindset initially because it's natural, almost reptilian; saying the the retard did something terrible to that artist and stuff, but then I realized the mob was the real reason the artist got harassed, so putting the blame on the retard isn't entirely fair. How come I was able to see the real problem that the mob existing instead of staying inside the mob mindset? Surely I don't have a bigger brain than most (then again twitterinos don't have a functioning brain, so there's that).
How drawfags are so retarded about this? Just open the project, grab some layer in the middle, shift it somewhere, post the result and observe the backpedalling.
>>7432730>Post Page from sketchbook>"Looks like AI"Now what? There are no fucking layers, it's over.
>>7432575Huh, my thread got deleted immediately, but mod let this one stay up?
>>7432575>A CrabWas that you, anon, you can be honest with us
>>7432716AIfags take commissions themselves just fine and have patreons racking in more money than the average artist. I've also seen actual AIfags pretending to be accused of using AI and nothing coming of it. Honestly it just doesn't matter, and if you had a fanbase that quits on you from some baseless accusation then you didn't have a good enough fanbase.
>>7432575Any faggots who started a witch hunt on another deserves to be bullied out of existence as well
Inoculate yourself by accusing yourself of AI using burner accounts. Go so far as to whip up some tards (with your burner account) into joining in, that way you can control the interaction and btfo everyone at the same time.
>>7432730There's so many ways to fake it with AI eventually nothing will be enough unless you're doing it with a physical camera pointed to your computer or recording a traditional process while proving you aren't tracing. But of course there's always the fact AI reference could be used too so you better show your references!
>>7432733NTA but>take another picture of the same sketchbook draw in a different setup (different angle, different light source, different place)>post it as proof>inb4 "you printed it!!">call him a schizo retard and move along
>>7432608Oh thank fucking god all the insufferable people went to that shitter
>>7432743You can save yourself the trouble and just call them a schizo right off the bat tbqh
>>7432656Just ignore them. What are they gonna do? Be a fucking wetwipe?
>>7432734What was that one about? To lazy to check the archives, also yeah modern mods are interesting, they allow furry content for some reason (despite being against the rules) and are not ok with trolling but low quality rage bait is, on the other side I do appreciate there's more actual drawing but maybe that's caz i am more selective and less shitposty now then I was back when I was a teen
>>7432750Sounds like you went after cyclops-chan.
>>7432743People will say it's tracedAn example of this is this guy that just got accused of using AI, and then when he drew on paper he got accused of tracing https://x.com/desrozza and here's the style used https://civitai.com/models/173001/valbun-style
>>7432750>>7432547 literally the same post, got warned for being off topic
>>7432742>There's so many ways to fake it with AISounds like bs.
>>7432752I man he does draw pretty much 1:1 with an AI trained on a different artist. Even if this guy is doing it by hand I can see why people would call him out.
>>7432752Fucking hell can AI really do styles like that now
>>7432756Is it? Also being able to somewhat draw opens up more and more possibilities when it comes to frauding using AI. I just don't think people are going to look at digital art in much of the same way anymore.
>>7432752This is what's annoying with these faggots. You proof that they're wrong, then they moved the goalpost. It's not about any kind of principle. It's just they get that dopamine boost from dunking on people they think are "in the wrong".
>>7432769>Is it?Uh yeah? Who the fuck is gonna train an AI that specifically produces an imagery of unclipped layers, shifted faces and whitespots that are drawn below lineart or something. And all that for a specific image too? No way lol.
>>7432751It wasn't that anon and I didn't even troll this time, I just said I was annoyed that the thread is gonna be deleted before my /beg/ drawing is gonna get a (you) because everybody picked on a user, I think what set that off was my use of "we" instead a "you all" when talking about it despite the fact that the person can clearly see an anon's posts based on ip
>>7432577The only post that matters. AI is getting better at making goodlooking, meaningless visuals. If you're an artist who draws "meaningless but pretty-to-look-at pictures," you're fucked.It's pointless to argue whether or not your art is made by a human because you make art that an AI can reproduce. A banana peel might be made by nature and a candy wrapper made by man, but it's all trash in a dumpster. Make art that says something that you believe in; AI can never do that.If your art is so fucking generic that it can be conflated with AI, you're drawing visual garbage and human authenticity is the least of your concerns.
>>7432752to be fair though who the fuck sketches like thatthis simplified head makes no sense, it's as if he just extended the left line defining the jaw upward
artist bubble is an absolute shithole. I miss when these people were on tumblr
>>7432768Yep, if you didn’t start posting on social media 5 years ago, you’re kinda fucked. Animations are the only way now
But didn’t the artist say they would delete the acc way before the accusation of their art being AI, like “I’ll retire from drawing bye, love mitsuri”. If they didn’t, It is a big ass coincidence
>>7432795These people are more prevalent on bluesky, aka the new twitter.
>>7432795>people were on tumblrI missed when they were on DeviantArt, their migration to Tumblr ruined everything
>>7432796Good luck animating lol. Hand drawn animation is a massive pain in the ass. And there's a few img2vid service like Kling that are pretty darn good at 3D and live action animation now but they still suck at hand drawn (which makes sense, because hand-drawn is less motion and more stylized). At least I thought Kling as pretty cool to use as keyframe animation, but they're too expensive and wait time is too long to realistically use for refs, you're better off just finding your own reference.
>>7432785That's really weird because it actually does mean you were targeting cyclops, because that user is known to b8 and smurf /beg/, attacking his own drawings to get replies. So when you called out stupid b8 threads, you inadvertently called out cyclops lmao, this site.
>>7432784Well who the fuck trains on AI on art timelapses?And it's not solely about an AI gen but tracing also which you'd be able to get away with even with layers no? I'm pretty sure some AI gen tools have layers too. There's only no ends AIfags wont go to to larp as an artist
>>7432799yep but twitter still full of gooners and emotional pooners. Unfortunately twitter is one of the only places where I can dig some good stuff.
Where else I can find their art? I remember they also drew Shinobu
>>7432768Still kind of fucked up it doesn't have any line control it's just same maybe that is the style tho hard to say.
>>7432814Funny part is I'd also thought this guy would be using AI because I could've sworn I see these kinds of pose/artstyle isn't really something that AI cannot do. It's just it's with white background means more likely it's a regular artist. AI will just output intricate but flawed backgrounds. No artists would bother drawing detailed backgrounds for their daily posts.
>>7432814Pop quiz: which leg is the left one, the raised or the supporting one?
>>7432819First thing it comes to my mind is Disney and not AI…are you people traumatized by it or something?
>>7432823Probably the supporting one
>>7432805Other theory I have was because I'd used the "J"-word with the hard "Y", aka pic related
>>7432586expert artists only have an accuracy of 83% when deciding if a drawing/painting/illustration is made by human or AIwhat is left for people that is worse than general users?https://arxiv.org/html/2402.03214v1
>>7432803> Hand drawn animation is a massive pain in the ass. Yet yields in the most reward. Live 2d and tweening compares nothing to hand drawn. Live 2d is only popular because of vtuber and gacha slop
>>7432839I think they should include other proompters.
Should've go for subuart and he will become a hero
>>7432796>tfw we can never get sakimichan because of this
>>7432814>>7432825man this is such a beautiful artstyle, gracefully done east meets west, shame about the artist, althought i wish he would stand his ground more than just deleting himself, the redliner on the other hand made a bunch of messy ass unprofessional "apologies" , seriously how big is your ego to go out of your way to redline other people
>>7432823Raised, you can tell by how the skirt curves around the hips
>>7432864Well the pajeets trained on the likes of sakimichan. We'll just wont get new sakimichans.
>>7432575I remembered a few months back where I'd see mutuals started posting they've created a bsky account. I just shrug it as another oh-it's-totally-gonna-kill-twitter moment. Now I'm glad I never bothered to hop into that train seeing how this site starts garnering bad reputation. Much like tumblr.
>>7432851I like hand drawn animation because it's kinda like a different set of problem solving involved. The drawings don't have to be 100% 'correct'. All you have to do is make the animation look nice when played. Sometimes I'd just animate blocks and rectangles to try out some squash and easing. I had animated my oc once and desu I still liked how it turned out. If only it didnt take like 2 weeks or so lol.
>>7432876OPs pic is from twitter. They just have the butterfly in their handle for some reason
>>7432870Yep, any new saki, wamu, etc clones won’t be a thing anymore thanks to this. >>7432877Yep, many of the big name animators on social media will take a couple months to a year for a roughly 30-40 seconds vids. Still with all that work, they make large sums of money because of it.
>>7432575Women should be seen but not heard. Everytime some shit like this happens it's always some bitch henpicking or crying about feminism or whatever, but the bottom line is it's always some stupid bitch trying to pull some mean girl bully shit and it works when it should be ignored instead because the internet is full of simps who's so damn eager to put a pussy on a pedestal and hand her a megaphone. Why the fuck do you think Japan is the only country with a functioning scene for doujin artists? Stupid hoes playing games like they do in the west get slapped down
>>7432920>wamu, eigaka, krekkov, riz cant have clones without being called AIthanks, i think these artists did more damage to the art community than AI, people try really hard to copy them and is just a shitfest of botleg copycats
>>7432937Nah useless complaining consooomer like you is what's holding the scene back
If you're going to delete your account just because a random critized you, then you don't deserve to post on social networks
>>7433000I don't disagree with the point you're trying to make but->deserve>implying posting on social media is some kind of privilege
>>7432937they have appealing style it's not hard to see why people would want to emulate themi'd rather have a hundred eigakas and krekkovs than another fucking CSR or shexyo
>>7432814https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/8689826?q=basedeonp19
>>7433004it's a privilege to 3rd world shitters like that schizo anon.
>>7432937the difference is copycats can eventually venture out into their own style and brand
>>7432575(OP)>>7432814>>7432825>What a damn shame, this artist was clearly inspired by people like @Joeyccoco and gesture drawing and didn't want to deal people constantly up there asses about bullshit drama that it was just easier to just leave and draw in peace. If the bar for AI accusations is "hurrr durr how dare you make mistakes in your art work , you must of prompted it " then the online art community is so fucking cooked.
>>7433016As a third world shitter with Xwitter blocked in my hellsite, I wholeheartedly disagree.
>>7433021happens when a bunch of non-artist started falsely accusing artist of using Al and the improvement of it too.
Both were complete retards.The artist for closing his account and the fag with his """"redline""""".
>>7433021>the online art community is so fucking cooked.Yep
>>7432689>>7432705thats just called fanficiton anons and its been with us since foreverwhy someone would want to pay for it, is a completely different thing
>>7432689kill with hammers
>>7432929>Japan is the only country with a functioning scene for doujin artists?Yes this is what happens when you don't let nerdy girls enjoy their yaoi
>Accuser proceed to make himself the center of attentionwhat a colossal nigger.
>>7433074
>>7433076
Perhaps aiming towards making your art look soulful enough to not be mistaken for AI is the better way to look at it rather than despairingOr are we just on an inevitable path to the only reason someone will ever pay an artist for anything is to know a human being spent their time on it?
>>7433081well art like this >>7432937 is popular on social media for a reason. It has appeal and it's cute. Appeal/soul matters more than technical skill on social media, the time that technical skill mattered is long gone and sakimichan is the last remanence of that.
>>7433081>maybe artists should despair over meeting criteria for some stupid nebulous meme concept of "le sovl"just shut the fuck up
>>7432592>implyingno bro nooo don't accuse me of using ai and get attention on my profile and then it turns out i am not using ai but any publicity is good publicity and then with the much attention i got i will get people subbing on my patreon brooo nooo don't do that i will totally hecking absolutely get cancelled and deleted
Yes, appealing to the lowest common denominator, content, consumer media, slop.Maybe stop doing that because you aren't winning the slop race against AI.
>>7433102>Yes, appealing to the lowest common denominatoryes, because that's how you actually make money with art. Even industry shit, there's a reason why gacha games make so much fucking money.
>>7433109Do you really want to compare pretty images with anime women gambling simulators?
>>7433092who shit in your cornflakes?
>>7433115yes, because people are mostly pulling for the unit it self because they are hot. Same with that nier clone, people play it because the women is hot. Another example would be those reincarnation solo leveling clones or isekai reskins. All those don't require much thought, it just hits the right spot, and it's simple. Can bring many examples, but all those actually make you money. Making a unique story or artwork that never seen is extremely risky because either people won't give a fuck about it or it will actually end up successful , but you'll spawn many copycats/clones. Just don't over think about things, anon.
>>7433134I will ask you again:Do you really want to compare pictures that have no real use besides looking pretty to fomo anime girl limited event energy based grind systems gambling simulators that needs a studio to develop and keep it running and pay for servers and distribution?Are you genuinely this low iq?
>>7433159Are you retarded? I brought that up in the first place just in case you would say that the industry doesn't have slop/appeal to the lowest common denominator.
>>7432575>>7432586>>7432589>>7432604>>7432656There's actual tools to detect generated images for fucks sake.Why dont people use them instead of grasping at straws.One example: https://hivemoderation.com/ai-generated-content-detectionPeople make such a big deal out of it, yet they refuse to do even basic legwork to find a solution. I dont think it's a perfect tool but its better than screeching.
>>7433177Does he know?
>>7433177I was going to call bullshit on your tool, but then I gave it a test run with both non-AI and AI pieces and all I can say is:I don't know what's more impressive, the fact that the tool got all results accurately identified or that all the images *I* thought were AI generated turned out to be actually AI generated. Good riddance.
AI or not it's garbage, so I have no sympathy.If anything, this gives me hope since everyone is so against AI.Stop posting garbage, and get in line nigger
>>7432920>>7432937Wamu is an overrated pedo
>>7433202Uh oh why did you save CP on your device now I'm reporting you to the FBI
>>7433174God damn you are genuinely absolutely fucking nigger-tier retarded.How in the fuck do you go from>don't do slop because you ain't gonna win that to>uuuuuuhm akshually member studios with funding doing big sloppa? yeah lmao checkmate!!kill yourself mangenuinely, just fucking do ityou have negative IQ
Please don't dox or harass him.
>>7432575>she/they 20 year old retard faggot twitter drama
>>7433177Those tools can't detect shit and are riddled with false positives and false negatives. You're literally as retarded as the person in OP.
>>7433006Thank u
>>7432656Respond to him with the psd, csp file etc, then defame him back for trying to sabotage artists. Closing your account is a bitch move, make that faggot pay
>>7433177>y-you're a faggot for using your own eyes to try to identify it yourself! Use a tool!NGMI
>>7433074They should have run this through an AI spell checker because they spelt "potentially" wrong.
>>7433202who of these in that list isnt? eigaka used to call his literal children male characters manlet, shortstacks but now he haves a meltdown everytime someone says "shota" he even go as far as stop streams and i remember he banned a few guys on his discord for asking about shota art.
>>7432787You're saying this on a board that has tunnel vision for anime styled art
>>7433202>no hot blond woman to pin me against wallGIWTWM
>>7433292>>7433259>Those tools can't detect shit and are riddled with false positives and false negatives. You're literally as retarded as the person in OP.This tool is pretty good though.
>>7433177Hot damn.Usually these tools are memes, but this one actually seems really good.I tried a couple dozen images with weird styles or subjects, and this is the only false positive I could get at 56% AI. Only tried a couple AI ones, but no false negatives.
Why would anyone delete their account over this? Just post the sketch/layers/WIP for your next project, problem solved
>>7433342I'll give a theory and assume that the artist who made these pieces was completely in love with the character (I forgot his name)a love so deep that like many Japanese people he has his shrine with repeated merchandise of said character, his love was so deep that he decided to learn to draw and thus express his love for that girl with pink hair.If an idiot comes and says that your work is as bad as AI I think that would damage your emotions if you completely depend on that character.I don't know, his drawings appeared to me and I followed him and in the future I would check his account but that's what I think.
I'm so tired, so tired of social media. The fuck happened?>It COULD have been AI, it could not, but we have toWho unironically gives a shit? Why are people so obsessed about getting attention, getting fans to idolize every schizo theory they create in their minds? Holy fuck I've become jaded.
He really doesn't understand his situation. He thought that by apologizing and promising never to do it again, the problem would be solved, but he doesn't know why people are still mad, he thinks those people are just haters being rude. The reality, though, is that people don't actually care about him as a person, they care about people like him not facing consequences for destroying an actual artist.
>>7433341>Usually these tools are memes, but this one actually seems really good.>I tried a couple dozen images with weird styles or subjects, and this is the only false positive I could get at 56% AI. Only tried a couple AI ones, but no false negatives.I've seen it get false negatives on some (not all) custom models and adobe's image generator.
>>7433402but this was a few years ago when I checked. it probably got better now.
>>7433177hmm... does this mean it's stablediffusion with human paintover?
>>7433177>Why dont people use them instead of grasping at straws.Because it doesn't work
>>7433413Is this a custom model? It struggles with those.
>>7433425Probably just a popular anime model with lora, it's useless if it can only detect obvious general AI art style
>>7433074>>7433076>>7433077Good. Now live with that guilt and reputation from now on. And if the artist used AI to assist in their drawing anyway, what value does shouting "this guy used AI!" provide anyway? Stupid twat.
>>7432577take it easy, lady. it's just a drawing.
>>7433081The inevitable path is no one would care that you used AI in some parts of the drawing as long as the end result is distinctly your work and you put in the effort.>>7433177This shit sucks balls lol
>>7433436Hey if the Stacies had an infighting I'd just sit back and watch them pulling on each other's hair.
>>7433177>cut and paste a bunch of AI images in the same picture>can no longer detect that it's AIIt's garbageJust use your own judgement like for >>7433413Usually an 'official' looking artwork but have a specific unexpected elements (like nudity, fetish, bondage, etc) are AIArtwork that fits for a daily post (like memes or shitposting content) with detailed backgrounds tends to be AI (because artists aren't gonna bother drawing background for daily posts)Background with 'clean' rendering tends to be AI. Those with noticeable brushstroke are more likely human.Ultimately none of this matters. If you're an artist who used AI in parts of your work but still get called out, then you're not transforming your material enough.
>>7433461>rules, rules, rulesYou are limiting artists' creativity
>>7432600>ps5>not a 4090Lame
>>7432600I'm never really a fan of this manga's MC.The girl is cute, the guy is meh. At least he's not another kiritoface
>>7432701
>>7433074>>7433434does not even seem genuine at all, how hard is it to just write and format it nicely, just seem disingenuousincredibly retarded artist full of himself, going out of your way to redline random poeple without asking and accusing?
>>7432819Wrong, you do realize you can prompt white backgrounds right? The only true way to tell AI art is because the rendering is too perfect. Even if the AI fucks up a detail, it will still be the best colored 6 fingered hand ever.
>>7433413>>7433432>>7433177These "AI detection" tools work by reading the metadata and resolution parameters, you retarded goofs, not the image itself.
>>7432593This. not even joking but AI does 1girl standing better than pretty much everyone now
>>7432575>that garbage got 13k likesI understand why the crab got mad
>>7433518>Tfw now feel like I need to stop working so hard on rendering, lest it become too good and some faggot sends a twitter mob against meGod I fucking hate this gay earth. Fuck AI and fuck jeets
>>7433074>>7433076>>7433077>I'm sorry I got caught>I wont do it again until this drama blows over>People are mad at me so I'm the victim now>I still want attentionits genuinely disgusting to me that is the the expected outcome of online apologies at this point. I hate doxxfaggots but people really need to learn to shut the fuck up and mind their own business or face consequences.
that's funny but why is everyone blaming one guy for this?
Remember this when we're all getting plugged in by the machines.
>>7432575skill issues
>>7433366>>7433656First thing normies do after the mob bloodlust dies down and the guilty are discovered innocent is to distance themselves from the incident. The second thing they do is make the original accuser the sole guilty party for the lynching even if they all helped and cheered it on. Third thing they do is forget it happened.
>>7433667id seen the gif of this been passed around the boards for forever, i dont even like anime but at this point id seen it so much of that clip i need to know the sauce
I can tell when something is ai generated or ai assisted. Just by looking at the thumbnail. You can also reverse image search and check the creator. It's very easy to figure out.
>>7433734Animatrix. After robots make superior products to humans, the humans invade Robot Land and trash them.
>>7433742Sounds like the sorta thing kid me would make amv to while set to this song Robot Riot: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=jx-Gml4mCcc&feature=share
>>7432575If you are willing to ACK yourself from just one random retard calling your art AI, you are better off without access to the internet period or else the next time you get criticised for real, you will actually blow your brains out.
>>7433765True, all of this^
>>7433736Try this one
>>7433765That's just the typical japanese twitter artist
>>7433841This. He's already rerolled on a new name.
>>7433077>i don't want pity but *explains bad stuff happening to me that you should pity*
>>7433177Yeah no, sorry to disappoint, but this one isn't really reliable eitherNot cropped, not touched up, just a straight up gen, with metadata still included and it thinks it's 100% real. And it got a lot of them wronghttps://files.catbox.moe/ghjyaq.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/78ra6g.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/nr1v1d.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/rx8ins.pngIt does get a lot right, but failing this often for stuff that can be checked by just looking at the metadata is pretty sad.Well, at least it got every real image I tested right>>7433532Well, obviously they don't
>>7433318good thing this isn't reddit where it isn't allowed to go against the grainat least on 4chan I can read a contrarian effortpost without having to specifically search for shadowbanned comments
Who cares if it's AI? These fags would be reporting pirates back in the Napster days because Metallica told them it "hurts the little guy."
>>7432656if anyone is accusing you of anything, if you get into ANY shit, just shut the fuck up and don't respond. Be completely opaque and radio silent until the mobs finds someone else to lynch.9999999999999999 artists could've been saved if they just kept on drawing and stopped treating their brand (yes, it's a brand in function) as part of their personal life.
>>7434056If I was a paying consumer I'd care because I wouldn't want to pay some AIfaggot the same amount of money I'd pay a genuine artist for their labour
>>7432636>there were no black witchhuntsLolThere *are* black wichhunts still to thisday.https://www.africanews.com/2017/08/01/tanzania-witch-killings-claimed-479-lives-from-january-june-2017-report/Can find more from more black countries.That anon is right, at least in the modern era, it *is* a black thing.
>>7433818He will never get rest will he?
>>7434071>browse through that shitstain's name in the archive>literally every post is some sort of drama/attention whoring/trollingdeserved every single one of it. the fucktard hasn't grown mentally beyond 13.
>>7434061Why?
>>7434104>i don’t want to be deceived/pay for vegan alternatives or dinner meals at a premium price>w-who cares, as long it taste decent….
>>7434136So you'll only care if someone tells you a human didn't make it.
>>7434084>obvious vendettafag Do you care so much because he draw draws better than you independent of AI , because the greater /ic/ doesn't constantly seethe about him being a faggot as much as you do or both? I'm curious.
>>7434149If you liked being lied to, fag, by all means go ahead. Scammers like you are good at it.
>>7433818Subu (the artist) is known to use ai. It's safe to assume all of his works use it.
>>7432575>a pussy retard that doesn't belong on the internet deleted their accountI've been accused of using ai. you know what I did? ignored the retard and kept drawing. literally every artist with any following has been at this point.
>>7432593>>7433549post an example of the images you think are undecetable as ai and I can say with 100% certainty I can point out very obvious ai artifacts
>>7434157So again, as long as you don't know, you don't care.
>>7434061>"if i was a payi--- OMG ARE THOSE BOOBIES?!?! EPIC BOOB!??? OMG I LOVE SEX SO MUCH THANK YOU SHE IS BEAUTFIFUEL AWWOOOGA WOOF WOOF UUUUAAAAAAH BOOOOOING THIS IS PERFECT I LOVE THIS SO MUCH AND I WILL WASTE NO TIME PUTTING IT TO WORK IF U KNOW WHAT I MEAN WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE LIKED AND SUBELSRIBBLED!!"The point is the vast majority of consumers will not care about AI if they happen to like the product/subject it comes with.It just that aishitters are too retarded to make actual good stuff that doesn't appeal in non-pornographic niches.
Even if the masses were told that something was made using AI, you'd have to also get them to care without coming off as a paranoid schizo
>>7434243The Ai illustration that broke the internet
>>7434228>too retarded to make actual good stuff that doesn't appeal in non-pornographic niches.one trannycoded non pornographic synthetic image coming right up for you, sir
>>7434228>most won't carePatreon request? sure but for commisions they definitely will care since it's gonna cost significantly more than £5.
wrong one teehee
i was trying to catch the bus before i posted this only to fuck up twice and i still missed the bus fuck here you go anyway
>>7434261UNDERAGE
>>7432787dosen't your post validates that most artist are useless and are mid at best, something that ai with sophisticated training and specified LORAs can copy? this is the death of the middle-class artist
>>7432575https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thefrenchbaron/the-french-baron>Use of AI>I plan to use AI-generated content in my project.>What parts of your project will use AI generated content? Please be as specific as possible.>Since I am the solo artist on this project, AI assists me in the large scale base composition then I take the finer details to the next level that is required for consistent storytelling and speed of delivery by doing them manually. Programs I work with to create the dynamic frames you see are: Photoshop, Adobe Premier, Canva, After Effects, and ComixLife3. My preferred image assist is A.I. Midjourney which helps me with the scale of the images for speed and because I come from a computing and filmmaking background, not a pencil drawing background. I have spent 100s of hours sculpting and customizing each panel using the tools of a digital artist and filmmaker to build out a story written 100% by a humans.AI taking over everything. Kickstarter has full AI comics being crowdfunded and promoted by Chuck Dixon (catwoman, batman, etc from 80s, 90s DC). Look at hand merged with sword. Can see lots of the 'art' is just ai slop and not 'assisted'. Some shitter on twitter posting ai slop is nothing and theyve all been tracer/photobashers for years.
>>7434265more adults use public transportation than children methinks
>>7434288Stale composition, muddy inconsistent art, Deviantart word bubbles with terrible dialog.All brought together with soulless Character1-Character2-Character1-Character2 panel layouts without any thought given to flow.I guess this is what consumoids want now. Welcome to the Slop Age.
>>7434288>>7434310Why do these chucklefucks never even attempt to clean up the AI slop? It does 90% of the work for you is it really that hard to go and paint over some details.I guess the answer is that these people don't give a shit and aren't artists. The more frightening possibility is that actual artists are doing this and it's working so well there hasn't been any big drama over it yet.
What makes you think the average person wants ai? I'm under the impression that most people dislike it. Most who use ai are honest about it and are not trying to pass as an artist. It's not a witch hunt.
>>7434317>AI could be in one of those 50 layers and we'd never know!
>>7434372>>7434372IS THERE A SKELETON LIVING INSIDE OF ME????AIEEEEEETAKE IT OUT
>>7434288>>7434310The cross completely changes style from panel to panel.That's obnoxious.
>>7434391one of the panels posted has the cross half on a folded scarf/cape and then continues onto the armored breastplate and is off center of the body. they are different sizes and all over the place. i dont see how this retard cant even spend a minute to fix it, yet its proudly posted and promoted by ex comic pros and others championing the replacement of their contemporaries with slop.
>>7434258anyone active in the art circles and commission work, is specific in their requests.They won't ask you to make anime girl floating in the void and no image generation can achieve anything specific.And if they want to comm something as pic related;-1st off, all gooners have their own image generator because of course they do so it is highly unlikely they will-2nd off, if you pay someone to do generic work like this you deserve to get ripped off-3rd point, no image generation algorithm can handle more than one people without showing the usual fuck ups like melted body parts and nonsensical shitAgain, if we go by the unfathomably amount of erotic genned imagery that gets spammed everywhere; most of the paypiggies don't care
>>7434424Just to clarify things, image generation can handle 2 people, pretty well actually, I wouldn't recommend adding this into the "Is this AI?!?" checklist
>>7434427Yeah anon, if i also dip my dick in ink and slap it unto a piece of paper, eventually i'll get a 1:1 drawing of my dick
>>7434424>>7434413>>7434391>>7434317>>7434310>>7434288>twice the pledge amount had been fulfilledlolYOU. HAVE. LOST.Fuck off into the dustbin of history, "artist".
>>7434435Point being, there's no sense in trying to find oddities in pictures. You'll just end up like OP
>>7432656"Subscribe to my Patreon for layers and sketches"
>>7434439Yeah, but you're making the mistake of assuming i'm one of your xitter discord tranny friends like OP.1% might slip through, everything else is easy to tell if you have big visual library.
>>7434437AAAAAH NO EPIC ANON FUCKIN GOT US ARTSITERSNOOOOO WE MUST KILL OURSELVES AND WE ARE SO MAD AND SEETHINGNO SISTERS NOT LIKE THIS(very epic anon-kun)
>>7434258You would be surprised, Most of these AI artists patreon actually do have a commision lined up and the quite literally just do the same thing as before, only this time instead of doing one really good pic they offer 100 pics of okay quality instead. You can go through all of their stuff, it's mostly okay stuff they post on twitter and dump their broken gens over at patreon and call it a day. But the thing is: most people still don't care. They are going to be happy just having someone else do their stuff for them and call it a day.
>>7434447Not a single one of you can draw this in just 5 minutes Go to hell. You won't be missed. :)
>>7434288no....
>>7434458Damn.Good thing i don't spend any money on art.
>>7434479but you play vidya games, watch animated movies, and read books though aka bought/spend on those.
>>7434458Why would I want to? It sucks.
>>7434479Great, don't waste it on meatbag nonsense. The future is silicon. It may already be too late for most of you to even start to learn to prompt - silicon imagineers have already advanced far ahead.
>>7433632Detailed rendering is obsolete now, you can still focus on things the AI can't do yet liek animations, comics and illustrations with more than 2 characters interacting.
>>7434489I dont thoi just do heroin
>>7434505>animationsAi can already do animations, it's a bit in the initial state but if image gen was anything to go by it will be able to do high quality animations in the next 2 years or so. And it can already do plenty of characters in the screen interacting. >illustrations Have you even been following twitter for a while? Ai can do illustrations better than almost everyone now.
>>7434505>liek animations, comics and illustrations with more than 2 characters interactinganimations and comics will forever be the cash cow for artist. White void anime waifu forever obsolete
>AI can do anim-- blobbified interpolation>or use spine2d
AI shitposters are back in the board and it's completely and totally your fault. Congratulations, idiots.
>>7434523they never leftAll the crabbery, drama and insults, it's always the same fucking people
>>7434510You can't straight up prompt consistent animations or illustrations with lots of characters interacting, what you've seen still requires a lot of work, editing and setting up from the prompter before he feeds it to the AI for rendering.
>>7434523they were going to come back regardless, as soon as op pic happened. Saw this shit storm before a thread was made and knew /ic/ will get a bit more cancerous than usual.
>>7432577You retards always bitch about something being pretty and worthless but never once post something that you think is "interesting".
i already don't give a shit about contentnow if every studio, third world brownoid and content creators start using ai, i will actively avoid that shitsure, normies eat all the brain rotting slop you put in front of them and keep repeating how tasty the shit they eat is like the npc cattle they are but i really do not care about content and can't get "hyped" for it like the average shit eating negroid
>>7434502sour grapes copium>>7434505AI drew this in 3 seconds. You're being left behind lightyears behind. Stop drawing, start prompting.
>>7434530I hate coomers as much as the next guy, but you're right. It was going to be another toucan harry bull shit.
>>7434530interesting is not """""""appealing"""" (don't make my pp hard) and isn't hyper super realistic (because i have incredibly refined taste in art and everything that looks real is automatically high quality)
>>7434532>AI drew this in 3 secondsLiar, catbox it and if I can replicate it with just the metadata and without any pre-editing or img2img shit then you're telling the truth.
>no matter what it can do, ai can't be racistpozzed and wokenot worth investingstart drawing, niggers
can we just can an /ai/ general please i wont go outside of it i promise
>>7434544go on /g/ for that, fag.
>>7434543LLMs are pozzed but image generation isn't, I saw some guy tricking DALL-E 3 into genning really unhinged images of Confederate Sailor Moon hanging black people.
>>7434546but /ic/ troons know more about art /g/ tards dont know shit about aesthetics plus they are all schizo
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrozzell/the-devils-coil-1-and-2?>TEN TIMES the pledged amount already fulfilled>glowing reviews everywhereArt has been democratized, everyone is now a celebrated storyteller, no longer gatekept by losers like you. Whens the last time you virgins drew anything other than pointless studies??
>>7434547this nigga sayin this WITHOUT posting the prompts
>>7434551welcome anon you wouldnt believe the gall of some to hoard prompts and metadata because they think theyre special or something ai democratized art but everyones still a massive faggot
>>7434532You have low standards, I don't know what to tell you.
>>7433412I have 15 years of art on the internet and you tards still think I paint over photos or now it's that I paint over AI. Where do you think the ai got the images it uses to make shit?People saying rendered paintings are done would have been the same people shitting themselves over photography.
>>7434547Yeah i also saw dem aliems and they let me have sex with your mom, i have pictures thanks to ŻueŤr𝓪∂ recording the whole insemination
look at this smug shlorpafuckercan't tell me the AI isn't literally full of satan
>>7434526So? It can still be done only with AI and that is really what matters, if you don't like something it's as easy to go there and fix it with inpainting and so many other tools available for you. The prompt engineer doesn't have to touch up anymore, if it doesn't like something you can simply as the AI and it will get the job done.
>>7434317>Why do these chucklefucks never even attempt to clean up the AI slop? It does 90% of the work for you is it really that hard to go and paint over some details.>I guess the answer is that these people don't give a shit and aren't artists.Correct. They have 0 (zero) aptitude for art, that's why they became proompters in the first place. They are failures.
>>7434458I could be living on the street, drawing sketches for food, and I would still thank God that I'm not a jeet like you
>>7434587> They are failures.Stop saying that. AI is the pencil of the modern age, and you know it. People can become artists now without having to sacrifice so much of their free time to purse this amazing craft. Being an "artist" Is going to evolve going forward. More and more people are going to enjoy drawing and fueling their creativity with the help of AI. And AI is going to help already busy artists to further empower their ideas, look at that anime being made 100% assisted with AI. They already saw how much potential this tech has, and in the future it will the new way of making art.
>no no one would give money to aitoday i will remind them>literally got away with tracing>literally got away with ai slopping>7k buckaroos a month for yearsits like porn is the actual problem
>>7434587>proomptersonly trannies say this btw just say prompt like a normal person
>>7434595>no no one would give money to aiThere is already like quite a lot of people making money with only AI art. Some are getting over 10k a month
>>7434587>failuresThe two projects posted here has made THOUSANDS.>>7434590White men were the ones behind these successful enterpreneurship. You're brown.>>7434550>>7434458
>>7434593>Stop saying that.Failure
>>7434600ESL grammar detected. Nice try, poojesh ranjapoopoo
>>7434174There you go.
why must leeches exist? they make the world a worse place.
>>7434155Didn't read your post.It's probably about you sucking his micro-penis.
>>7434611she’s sitting under a tree but the light isn’t properly hitting her and the hands and the skirt and unless this was her sleeping pajamas, what’s she wearing that in the first place? drawn by a secondary?
>>7434611Eyes and hair are always extremely obvious giveawaysReally any small detail. Splotchy weird color is also telltale sign. I assume it's probably touched up ai, but it's still ai.
>>7434986this jailbait has clothing lore now?(obv im a hdoujin tertiary)
>>7434532God I wanna rape Gawr so badly.
>>7434611From a quick once over:1. Eye detail is always weird in ai. Eyelashes and iris aren't generated in any purposeful way2. Ai loves to use these super weird shaped eyebrows 3. Present across the entire image, but the color choices are bizarre and lifeless4. Leaf colorshifts with random red tones not present anywhere else5. Hair generated with no coherent structure and melts into the... what the fuck is she sitting on? 6. What the fuck is that knee? Also same pale lifelessness 7. No one that would drae this would fuck up a hand this horrendously 8. Why is her foot randomly underneath the nondescript cloth? Why is her leg like 6 inches long? 9. Color bleeding out of the leaf's very randomly done lines10. The fuck is this fold?11. More of 5, hair generated with no purpose and melting into other shit12. Again, hair melting into the background and has no linework13. More of the same14. Detail is extremely inconsistent from one patch of hair to the next Seriously if you can't look at this and tell immediately, it's the biggest sign you have zero chance of ever making it as an artist.
>>7434532Cute
>>7434532I will hate on AI less if more people put effort into generating good images like this instead of just 768 x 512 plasticky anime portraits with out of perspective background
>>7435037based post
>>74350371, 3, 5, 6, 8, 12, and 14 could be human mistakes. I'm not saying this image has any chance of being human art because it's too obvious, but you are probably not 100% accurate in your criticism. I hope the points I listed above are made only after you know it's AI art, not because you think a human wouldn't make these mistakes, otherwise you could be the next crab.
>>7435037You are trying too hard to spot the mistakes. I do agree with you in the few points but in others I really do think you are pushing it a bit.
>>7435064>otherwise you could be the next crab.Nope, I don't post negative shit for clout on social media. My account is purely for art and positivity. >>7435068That said, no, the shit I pointed out, especially all together in a single image, are not something any human being would ever do. Sorry Ranjeet. Feel free to try another though
>>7432802Truth. When fandom when there too, after Livejournal and FF.net all HELL broke loose.
>>7433066In the west girls that like Yaoi have to identify as some flavour of 'queer~' in order to have the audacity to write two dudes together and NOT incur huge backlash. The pressure to troon is immense. Jap girls are so lucky that 'bullying, but make it ''righteous'', because of 'sOcIaL JuStIcE' doesn't exist in that country.
if a wannabe can be bullied by mistaken idiots in the comments, he wouldn't make it as a pro anyway, like dealing with a client shitty pay, directions, feedback and miscommunications isn't harsher
>>7435130How did gays manage to become stupider and more spiteful than Alabama Evangelicals kek?
>>7434458>no goonerbaitI don't care if it took less than 5 minutes aint viewing that slop.
>suddenly 100 more replies>ooh more drama? >thread got turned into the resident pajeet posting someone else's prooomptGoddammit
>>7434441kek based
>>7434441kek
>>7434174I think it's an exercise in futility at this point, especially with certain styles and chibi.
>>7434084And then there are people defending such a faggot lol. Is it subu trying to defend himself or actually gay niggas going to such lengths to suck cock?
>>7433818>>7434162>>7434084>>7435359
>>74350372, 4, 8, 9, and 10 are the only valid points imo (and they're enough to judge it as AI). Hair details can be a stylistic choice, I've seen similar approaches from other artists. The anatomy errors could simply be from laziness, except for 8. I've actually come across Japanese tutorials where anatomy is intentionally disregarded for style and quick results
>>7435037>2. Ai loves to use these super weird shaped eyebrowsIf you don't know what you're talking about you should shut the fuck up
it has soul if you have skill
>>7435642Who is tracing who here? And is askziye just an alt account of subu because the drawings look similar.
>>7436289>askziye just an alt account of subuI don't think so, subu's art looks like high /beg/ with some color knowledge and heavy reliance on references. You can see that some of his pieces still look like /beg/ attempts, probably when he tried to create something original.Askziye's art on the other hand, seems to have its own developed style.
>>7435037The thing I could agree is on point 10 where no human would do such an illogical decision. But as for the rest, I'd add on how I would draw sometimes and could see if I'd do it (either consciously or subconsciously)1. Could present in human artwork too. Depends on how the person draws the eyes. (I draw differently)2. Idk about that eyebrows. It's probably just Frieren's eyebrows lol.3. Backlighting like that is when you overlay some little bit of blue-ish backlight. I dont do it for skins though. But a bunch of other artists does this too 4. Yeah I can see that being AI thing5. Could present in human6. Could present in human7. Hands aren't great indicator nowadays lol unless it's obvious 6 fingers or melty fingers. Most artists suck at hands8. Yup that's not something a human would do9. Yup that's not something a human would do10. Absolutely not a human would do11. Sometimes present in human (eg I dont really care how hair are drawn. I just draw them as long as it flows)12. More of 1113. More of 1114. Cant really say since I'd do strokes of hair and it'll come out more or less like thatI think you don't really have to like, really observe this shit under a microscope. Just go with "does this decision makes sense?" like number 10. Hands, not really the best indicator either since most people sucks at drawing hands lol.Also if I look at pixiv I'm if I suspect its AI or not I'll just look at the eyes. Most artist tends to draw eyes the same way from artwork to artwork. If you could spot their preference you can quickly deduce how they like to draw.
>>7435037>>7436472the joke here is that it isn't AI
Why wouldn't you put it past some anon to trick you? Why wouldn't you just reverse image search the picture. It doesn't even have the typical AI artifacts, tangents or rendering>Seriously if you can't look at this and tell immediately, it's the biggest sign you have zero chance of ever making it as an artist.Dunning krugered yourself....
>>7435642lmaothis is kronprinz-tier tracing and copying holy kek
>>7436289askziye is an actual accomplished professional whos been drawing for years; this subu faggot is just another /ic/ troll that tried way too hard to copy the pro, and gave up when he couldn't do proper lines and coped with "scratchy lines is muh style!!". now he just traces AI.
>>7436527>>7436382ah sorry i didn't know. I don't use social media.
>>7436479>>7436498Who's the artist then? I can't find it in any booru
>>7437441https://x.com/WE_an__/status/1770393745391050755
>>7433177
>>7436479Oh wait really? Hmm well I was just playing devil's advocate since a bunch of the things highlighted are like, well things I've experienced myself while I'm drawing so I just comment on them. If anything nowadays if I see mistakes on faces or samefaces it's probably human lol.