If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates, howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious: >>7716337
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>>7720846>>7720848>tattoosDisgusting.
Why are all art books and courses filled with such massive yappers, I swear just seeing them draw in real time is 100x more helpful then whatever they're talking about.
Why should I draw when porn and vidya are more fun?
I hear Proco get brought up here. Is the Med's Map painting course any good if your low-skill or beg? I dont like my lineart to color workflow and would rather a more interesting painterly style. I always find painted styles tend to look really nice and striking.
Permabegschizo could have made it, he just needed more time
>>7720860>Today, anon discovered how classes work.
Anyone has read any books that has helped their art improve but whose subject isn't art? As in not a book about techniques or art history but something else? I'm kind of in a need for a break from art theory and have personally found that systems or ideas unrelated to art can still be applied to it for interesting ideas, so I'm curious if any of you have any cool suggestions.
>>7720865To draw porn of your favorite vidya.
>>7720857why do you people always sperg out whenever a model has tattoos?
>>7720851
>>7720914because half of the men here are pedophiles and tattoos signify adulthood
>>7720922oh that makes a lot of sense actually
real thread challenge
>>7720929Oh come on now. Those titties can't be real.
I drew Mako because "Gadgetry" by Shirow Miwa scares me.
>>7720935They're real, and they're fantastic
Anyone here procrastinating by drawing eyes? when I drew a head for the first time it was a front view, by mirroring one eye. Entire head turned out slanted in the end.
>>7720935I have titties like that irl
>>7720973Would you happen to be a Canadian Woodshop teacher?
>>7720929why are their feet like ps2 graphics
Okay guys. I'm gonna need help. What are the correct proportions for lolis? I've never drawn young kids before.
>>7720986Just ignore picrelated. I haven't even figured out which pose I'm picking yet.
>>7720929I'd racemix with them, holy moly
>>7720965Not procrastination.>>7720986Much smaller than that.
>>7720668
My latest drawing.
>>7720965Actually just doing it because I'm neglecting.
>>7721039Other than the eyes and the broken arm it seems cute and funny. Why are you using the soft brush again? Your stuff with the hard one was way more appealing.
>>7721052It's still fun though isn't it? I was able to draw a head for the first time thanks to one tip by a dude saying if you only draw one feature of the face to try and branch out, to at least complete a head. Don't think I like front view but it was easier to draw for me.
>>7720844
>>7721053it's more mentally taxing to draw with the hard brush, I would risk not drawing at all in days when I'm too tired
>>7721058forgot to attach a mesasage but how can I improve this?
tfw have great ideas but then after putting them on paper they look fucking terribletragedy
>>7721061Well yeah they look terrible you're a /beg/.Work hard so you can change that.
Drew this the other day. How is it? I'm gonna do the lines and render it now but any criticism is more than welcome.
More sketches. Where’d everyone go?
>>7721065the left foot would not be possible to see
>>7721065looks really good, only thing that really pops out to me is the face anatomy seems a little too squashed together, like the eyes should be placed a lil higher. also the end of her hair made me at first think her foot was kicking outwards to the right but that might just be me.
Gibbled ass hands
>>7721067there should be laws against people such as you
>>7721078Please be nice...
>>7721071The perspective is cool and it's interesting, but oh god the hands. At least you noticed>>7721057The face itself isn't that bad but the hair could be way better. Like pic related. Sharper features. More intimidating. Try to find a character with that kinda vibe and copy it.>>7721058Darker shadows could make it more eerie and have more contrast with the background. I like it though>>7721049I like this one. A bit too much airbrush but it's interesting to look at.
>>7721068I didn't want the feet to just disappear behind the rest of the figure, but I'll take a look at how to make it look more natural, so that people know it's there but not detailed or noticeable enough so it draws attention to it>>7721070Thanks! I'm bad at face angles but I'll try to adjust it a bit
>>7721078Tfw I drop the soap in the prison I went to for drawing Star Wars incest
>>7721081>At least you noticedYeah, I tried to fix it but then decided that I'll just live with them looking fucked up rather than wasting time turd polishing, I'll just have to study more hands going forward
>>7721078based
>>7721081>The face itself isn't that bad but the hair could be way betterHAHA yeah for sure, that hair was drawn real quick just so it wouldn't be a bald head. I agree on the features, have to get a feel for sharp features without making it a horse face or other errors. The JJK dude looks good but I wonder if it's the face doing the work or the F1 driver neck.
>>7721087u should draw them having a wholesome sfw father son bonding moment w their clothes on
>>7721064I am! it just seems to stretch into everything I createI have a great scene idea in my head, go through it, the conversation, themes, etc, then I get to a piece of paper or a computer and what comes out is like three sentences of horse shitit's all so tiresome, but there's no option other than just pushing onwards. my mother was complaining that she has no artistic talent unlike me and my sibling, and I told her I don't have any talent either, I just keep trying and occasionally learn something and improve, and she denied it, said I can draw and she can't because I have artistic genetics she doesn'tsome ppl are really devoted to the idea of talent vs skill, and while it can be tempting idk I don't want to let it stop me from doing what I want and if eventually I stumble into drawing better than that's great>>7721067very good!>>7721087god imagine your supervillain dad using his magic force powers to crush your prostate while he's raping you, would be kino
>>7721094father son bondage??
>>7721094the person who made these scribbles was clearly a fatherless childso this doesn't make sense to her
>>7721098D: NOOO!!!!
>>7721094Why would you want that? Is my nsfw that bad?
>>7720846WHO. in. the. ?!?
It feels good to ocme back at small tablet again somehow.
>>7721117no its good its just dirtydont u like to cleanse ur mind and draw cute stuff too sometimes?
>>7720922And for those who aren't pedophiles tattoos signify children's scribbles
>>7721095Ughhh I know right…? Though equal part of me wants to be the one going BANG BANG BANG on Luke Skywalker desu >>7721061Look, hun, this won’t get better. The only thing you can do is practice your art fundamentals and eventually feel out your personality and what you’re drawn to. Being able to draw exactly what you see in your head is a myth. Even Kim Jung Gi had a consistent style among his works. Anyone who says they perfectly replicate the ideas in their heads esp on the first try are probably lying for attention.
>>7721127Said the pedophile.
>>7721124Yeah here’s a chibi doodle.
>>7721124.. and Luke with clothes on. lol.
>>7721131What'd you say?
almost finished the second figurebut I don't know what to do with the arms
>>7721094unironically less canon adjacent than the incest, fuck off
>>7721131Ayo Fuck you you thin skinned butt boy, I bet you still lives with your mom's boyfriend you fucking Cuckold, sissy piece of shit.
>>7720846>small and saggyWhat a horrible fate
>>7721144OT luke:> Ahegao face while hiding from his dad> Ahegao face and moaning when being telepathically communicated with by his dad> Kissed his sister 5 times> Loosely based on Dune which is full of incest
>>7721144spoiler warning wtf
>why don't you draw SFW?? don't you ever want to be le cute and wholesome on the red board??fuck off woman
>>7721159
>>7721160only women are entitled enough to expect other people to cater to them on a mongolian basket weaving forum
>>7721162okay im sorry anon i will behave myself from now onno need to berate me
>>7720946Dang I snatched defeat from the jaws of victory once again
>>7721164absolute kino
Maybe tomorrow will be the day I try to draw something seriously
>>7721160You could also hide the posts dumbass. It's what I've been doing to avoid slop wars and self-harm wank.
>>7720846>>7720848I hate drawing men so much it's unreal.
>>7720872lmao
>>7720872What's he saying on twitter right now?
>>7720846
>>7720870Med's map would be a bit hard for a beg. he doesn't explain the absolute basics and you need half decent drawing skills to paint
>>7721198If it is birdbroad she will breeze through it.
>>7721188He doesn't even post there anymore it's over
>>7721203What was his handle?
>>7721204drooltist
>>7721208>privated
I love this idea but i cant execute it properly, the jaw looks off. Or idk it just looks off any tips? (its supposed to be him pushing his lips forward and kind of to the side)
>>7721234what>>7721219what animal
>>7721208>blue period panelRecognized it right away, cool read. I wonder how expensive it would be to try acrylic painting... the little pots lined up on display inside art supply stores always looked so vibrant.
>>7721251What is it with permabegs and blue period?>acrylic paintingIt is inbetween watercolors and oils regarding investment and potential. Dont hurt as much as oils so you dont need special equipment and space.Arent as flimsy as watercolors so you can be very versatile with them.Get some tubs of primary Liquitex (mix your own colors) and go HAM. They arent expensive so you can experiment a lot.
>>7721248supposed to be a bear
>>7721234fell into the usual trap
>>7721259Huh, they sound nice.>(mix your own colors)Damn I was fuckin stupid, of course it won't be AS expensive if you just buy the primary colors and mix them. Thanks for the info.
>>7720929What comes after Z? Also she has the feet of a skinny person. Disgustingly small for her size.
>>7721260
>>7721251Acryliques are fun and vibrant. Don't know about the price. They do dry a bit quickly for my speed, in like an hour. Which is great if you're doing layers, but you have to keep mixing the colors since they keep drying on the palette. The first time I tried oil it blew my mind that my palette was still wet after a literal week. Like the other guy said, get Blue, Yellow, Red and then Black, White and you'll be able to make basically any color. Mixing is fun when you get the hang of it.
>>7721260Looks like monkee
>>7721281I wonder if the drying speed of acrylic will get extended if you live in a humid shithole of a house lmao, might be a bonus. Every time I bought notebooks for school or whatever they always deform into waves an hour or two in the house, they kind of stabilize later but not completely. I think they also suck up more ink because of that.
>>7720844How close am I to making it?
Where should i try improving? It's probably one of my better works :c
>>7721269
>>7721290It's very flat. Try drawing some 3d shapes in perspective to add depth to your character.
dont mind the repost>>7721219cool lol, which animal is it?>>7721169I believe in you
>>7721295the way u render hair is very nice
>tfw your previous creative hobby mogs your shitty drawings>nearly done both just as long
>>7721297its just Airbrushed and sides smudged a little, then some white strands over it. You can do this too ^^
>>7721288Very close
>>7721288idk, but you’re on the right track
Do you construct the torso with 3 forms or 2.I’m never sure whether to make the stomach/waist its own form or let it “emerge naturally” from connecting the ribs and hips. I feel like it’s different in every drawing I look at. It’s driving me crazy.
>>7721142Linework looks clean af, even though it's a work in progress.
>>7721219the upper snout and nose is too small, look at baloo for example, if youre going for a cartoon route, you should try to make it recognizeable. the eye is also way to outward and big for a bear. you could also try to make the head a little larger, the hat smaller so you can put the ears in a more recognizeable bear spot. i think the underlip being so big and cartoonish in the first place is what throws it off. just try again and make it look closer to a bear
>>7721386TUUUUUUUUBES or silhouette drawing if im lazy, figure drawing always looks shitty doe, vilppu and westerners are nigger.
>>7720846As a super bad /beg I feel kind of good about this. Would love some suggestions and redlines from Senseis here
Made a little sketch based on the gooner phenotype
>>7721386>>7721391This is great advice. It's likely the easiest way to construct anything from sight. I recommend learning gestures first, though. I've probably done hundreds upon hundreds of gestures before I started doing construction. I'd recommend Hampton as he explains it quite well. Basically, don't focus on getting it 100 percent correct, just try to capture it to the best of your ability. After roughly what is roughly 150 hours of just copying the drawings and reading the text on my lunch breaks at work, it clicked. It was boring most of the time, but I wanted to improve fast, and it worked for me.I'm currently I'm currently working my way through Tom Fox's book on anatomy in perspective, and I'm enjoying it so far. He uses boxes and cylinders extensively. I'm at work, but here's a screenshot of my latest session from yesterday evening.
>>7720851Stupid me is better at useless stones than drawing anything else.
>>7721404so just do it? stuff like gesture always scare me off because im never sure what im doing is correct and sometimes it feels like im not learning anything and wasting time
>>7721412Basically, yeah. Don't just draw from imagination, that's a trap. When you're a beginner, it's easy not to challenge yourself and stick to what you know. If you need any encouragement, here's my first few hours trying to copy Hampton. I still suck, but it's better than what it was, which is most important.
>>7721404I wonder what happens when you (or perchance me) git gud? We just quit? Western industry is dead since the CGI era, boorus and X are full of AI shart and copied models. I never asked for this , no idea what the fuck is wrong with normies.
More progress, hoping to finish the lines after work today.
>>7721401put more effort and time into it. flip the reference on the head and draw only what you see. the mistake all beginners do is rush and be lazy. drawing isnt easy, not even at an advanced stage, its quite exhausting and requires concentration.
>>7721203nyo...
I'll get fineliners soon. I need to develop the discipline to not make more lines.
Sketches Arey they good
>>7721456not /beg/
>>7721456>>7721458/beg/ unironically mogs /draw/ and /int/ and it's not even remotetly close. Even our shitters are better than the tumblr /draw/ trannies >>7721401
>>7721456blog?
>>7721435I'll hope it happens some day, though it's going to take a while. Normies will normie. I believe artistic skills should be like how people treat bodybuilding. 99 percent of people don't earn a single penny from it, but people still enjoy it. Drawing should be for your own sake first, I think.
>>7721464Sorry, haven't posted on social media yet
>>7721456Noice. Work on your legs and feet though, they’re kinda noodly
>>7721460Caviar..
>>7721481Thanks, I'll work on that
>>7721451sovl
>>7721198shit. Any ideas for where a beg can learn to paint digitally? I'm currently working on gamedev projects, and having the ability to make my own painterly art would be a good step in having them be inviting to play.
>>7721537Ctrl+Paint isn't bad for the basics
>>7721416which hampton course?
>>7721288Two more weeks of practice, chief
>>7721547I prefer books to courses, but there's a ton of his on youtube. I get caught up in trying to follow the artist's lines rather than looking at the form i'm trying to replicate, so I don't bother with video courses until later. I chose to read Figure Drawing: Design and Invention. He's not going to give you a step-by-step in a traditional sense like Loomis, just remember that.
>>7721447 Sure I'm not any good, I'm trying to be able to draw something that kind of "looks like" the subject.I find it hard to put too much time when something is super blatantly horrible or wrong...
>>7720844https://youtu.be/aZlGbK6Emvk
>>7721081Thanks.
>>7721459You think so? I never check those threads
>>7721456good rendering and detail but work on perspective and learn the planes of the head
How to draw arms...
10min yaoi scribs>>7721460what kind of animal is this? >>7721456yes good, if any crit i'd say the girl on lefts forehead/top of the head is bulging a little too much>>7721451cozy
>>7721586
>>7721590Brother, how will you understand what shape to make the forearm if you cover it in lines? Try to figure it out using less lines or lighter lines then darker when you do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w98CbYAX0N4See how Jim Lee expresses his arms with clarity eventhough he's being a bit sloppy? Maybe switch your medium so you can be more cautious about line placement.
I redid the study from yesterday, but it still looks bad, though the pose is more accurate. The first was done with 5 hours or so of sleep, the second with at least 8 hours. I think the second one is neater and more accurate in parts (not the breasts I completely didn't care for even making those look more convincing). The reasons the hands look bad is this, for those who will scold me for being a shitty perma /beg/...I didn't care. I wanted to draw other things today and didn't want to spend forever on this. So I rushed the hands and that's why they look like symbols. Only have 4 more hours to draw today you see. My main goal wasn't so much the detail or making it look rendered, but rather just figuring out how to construct the body and proportions. Hence why it looks so flat and undercooked. I'm probably no longer going to post these kinds of rushed studies because there isn't a point, even my brain recognizes how bad these are now. From here on out I'll only post things that aren't just glorified warm ups before I draw the fun pictures. Feel free to call me GPT bro or Perma/beg/ if you want i just really want to improve but I feel I never have enough time to actually do it.
>>7721602The reason for the shitty lines is a lack of understanding of anatomy
>>7721604What I mean by the last part is...I will simply put more effort and time into the studies I share on here, ones that aren't glorified warm ups. And I'll make time to actually draw the drawing books you guys all recommend so I can actually learn to construct like Michael Hamptom someday.
>>7721732pear
>>7721732wow
>>7721732why baloon upside down
figgies and fat mothdo the figgies look good?>>7721169i like caT>>7721451what do you use for the colors itself?>>7721456this looks really cool
>>7721560>find it hard to put too much time when something is super blatantly horrible or wrong...erasing and starting over is crucial. you wont be able to do it correct from the getgo. do it again and take more time with each limb and finger. an hour at least, even if its sketchy. getting good just means persistence and patience
Trying to be more intentional with my lines. No eraser, no undo, no moving lines etc, just a simple round brush at size 15Having to make the most out of your lines is pretty fun and I actually found myself planning multiple steps in advance. Maybe the advice to draw with pens is legit>>7720846>>7720848>>7720851
>>7721779Nta but I fucking despise drawing with pencils and have no appitite for digital, so I basically never erase anything. Ought I to suck it up and draw more with a pencil then?
animal doodles and some shapes
What are some good resources for stylized skin rendering? Is there anything in the IC STUDY torrent?
how long does it take to go from complete-beg to int? kekekeke
>>7721818it'll take a long time if you only ever draw simplistic cartoons that go after a certain "style". It seems that a lot of new artists nowadays are either impatient or think they know something other people don't and skip learning anatomy, shading, realism, et cetera.
>>7721391is that picture you posted supposed to look good
>>7721818https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKdgCFXoYl8
>>7721817>rinfaceWrong, I can recognize Len from a mile away
>>7721785>Maybe the advice to draw with pens is legitWhen working with ink it forces you to>simplify what you're trying to draw>Think about the stroke you're about to make before putting it down>Not hide mistakes in value and extra lines so much All beginners should work with pen, it's tough at first but then so much fun because the gains can be ridiculous if you're paying attention.
>>7721817Why does she have pink eye?
>>7721587>Being a lefty
>>7720929Oh shit, is this real? I need those references urgently, it's vitally important.
>>7721818It varies. And sometimes you are pretty bad at times anyway for a while even if you sometimes make good stuff. For instance, I drew this >>7721604 earlier on. Pretty awful right? Well I also drew the pic you are seeing just now (and what a coincidence it's also Hornet!). It's no masterpiece at all but still. I used a reference for the pose. I just cared more about this pic than the boring study I did earlier. But despite that, I am still gonna do the boring studies as they help you feel anatomy more even if they are boring as hell.
I feel like the background does not fit that well.
hello everynyan how are you fine sank youw
>>7721107dragon butthole https://files.catbox.moe/cvkbxn.jpg
growing boy with an "appetite"
>>7721879You need to zoom out. The big purple stroke doesn't look remotely similar, your ref can be thought of as three major shapes fused together.
>>7720851Mmmm cubes
What's preventing us from making it anons? Are we retarded?
>>7721891Real, on CSP I duplicate the canvas window and zoom it out to always have a far away view instead of having to zoom out a lot.
>>7721908No, asocial. Success requires a whole social dimension that anons despise.
Does Pawell still post here btw or did he give up?
>>7721841Funnily I did three more right after but allowed me to start over once per study and I immediately got way sloppier. So even though do-overs are possible with ink, it seems I only naturally draw this careful if I restrict myself even further. Gotta work on having that mindset all the time.>all beginners should work with penI don't really agree, and exactly for the reason you mention: you need to pay attention, and I don't think everyone has the drive to hyper focus right from the beginning. I certainly didn'tOnce you've built up some confidence though, yeah sure, seems like it's an amazing training tool.
tried doing a quick study while waiting for the bath to fill, ended up biting off more than I could handle so it ended up pretty roughstill fun though>>7721908could be any number of factorsfor me, depression and anxiety both sort of hinder progress where it's hard to focus enough and be present enough to draw preciselyalso I've gotten into the habit of drawing whilst drawing a bath, and not really outside of that. I do sometimes draw in my room, but that space is so overloaded with other things that it's not a pure space for drawing, like my thoughts get knocked out of place by environmental disruptions, even passive ones. same issue with writingultimately I think it boils down to needing to dedicate a time and a place to do the work of drawing, while still letting myself doodle outside of thatthat way I'd have a place for it which should improve focus and the creative flow, which I'd also want to do with writingproblem is, I live with family and have essentially only my room in terms of places to do things. might go to a public library for writing, as long as nobody is reading my stuff over my shoulder I'll be okI wouldn't want to draw sadomasochistic gay romance there though
>>7721891I thought you were trolling at first, but I see what you mean. I definitely messed up the perspective and proportions.
i always draw in pen lately (shown here, though these suck lol due to being drawn without any care and my pen dying)unsure if it's helpful or not. i do think it forces you to think about contours more and forces you to accept mistakes but you need to not get as accepting of your mistakes as me lolalso with ink pens use multiple, one of my biggest issues is because I only have thin ones atm I can't really utilize line weight
>>7721928>these suck lolI'm going to kill myself
>>7721922>I don't really agree, and exactly for the reason you mention: you need to pay attention, >the drive to hyper focus right from the beginningYou don't need to hyper focus in the beginning. I guess I should've said All beginners should have a period where they work with pen. Not from the start. >I immediately got way sloppier.I'm the opposite, I usually learn from my mistakes, I usually come in over confident and jump straight in it only to be humbled by my skill level, which makes me stop and think about what I'm doing. You ought to have some basic observational skills (establishing landmarks, basic knowledge of proportion and knowing how to use plumb lines) in place before using pen. The problem is people hiding behind chicken scratch or erasing so much the paper is peeling. Refining is ultimately what you will do in art but ultimately it's about communicating ideas clearly using your tool of choice.
>>7721932eh I fucked up the eyes on every figure because I was drawing too quickly without thinking and a bunch of other stuff haha, an issue with drawing with pen is you can't correct your mistakes so if shit turns out wonk, it stays wonk
>>7720929Face of GBody of PTits of Z
i'm a lazy bitch so you only get her face, which is the most interesting part anyways
>>7721456hell yeah they are
>>7721840I like these. Might just be a sucker for the linework.>>7721893I'll be watching your progress closely.
>>7721985For reference.
>>7720848Fucked up. Will try again tomorrow
Cellophane flamingo
>>7720844Where can I get good shibari refs? Is wadding through google images my best option relly=?
>>7722017GTFO
>>7722018Thank you wrong image
The truest most blackpilling truth is that talent is real and it's in the form of having patience and not being lazy.
I started drawing this week and it's been the most fun I've had in years. Feels good.
>>7722024>drawing is funYou're ahead of 99% of this board right off the bat.
>>7722023The lack of patience can be from upbringing. Being hyper stimulated all the time can warp your brain to be impatient. The good part is you can train your patience, the bad part is that it will never feel great doing so. I haven't figured out how to not get distracted, seeing how distraction is the best solution for being patient.
>>7722036How do you train patience?
>>7722007Super cute.
>>7721918Not really. I saw an autist start around the same time as me that completely btfos me.his communication is stunted and lacks all social formalities
>autist>artisthmmm
>>7722049How do you train muscles? By putting yourself in situations where patience is required. You get the dopamine hit for actively doing something you never do. I usually do it with lines at stores, I despise waiting in line and will go home empty handed if a line is long enough. Doing it there made me realize I can do it in other areas of my life where it's required, but the way I do it is distraction, endurance while doing a task also uses distraction but usually it's seeing how much I can do in an alotted time or how much I can refine something.
>PatienceFor permagroids with no talent. FavelaCHAD rushed an art career in 6 months and MadeIt.
>>7720929I'm pretty sure this is Ai gen but give me the damn sauce anyways
his fat ass is gonna fall, somebody help him
How long do your works typically take you?How do you get faster? Or am I just getting 1-shot by social media and the "rkgk" and "just a lil 15 min doodle" type posts and only freaks are fast?When it comes to speed I don't know what the hell I'm doing wrong.It's like at some point I just become blind to how much time is passing.I had a warmup today that I hated, so I forced myself to put together something that I liked the look of. That took like 40 minutes to get the base sketch down. Then from there it's just refining it, adding in more detail, etc.My -plan- was 3 characters and a background and now 7 hours since I started I'm only kind of refining character #2.I'm having fun with the process but I feel like I'm so goddamn slow. The fun and good feelings I have just get crushed from that.I keep hearing that "mileage is what matters" which I get it, I have for a long time>want to get better at art>just fucking draw and don't be a midwitBut far as mileage goes it feels like I'm just puttering along at 10mph while everyone else is on the highway.
>>7721575Thanks anon, yeah I'm working on that>>7721587Thanks for the critique,10 min is crazy they look so good >>7721759Thank you, keep practicing anon>>7721990Thanks anon, yours is looking great as well
I should really study more
Pomni sketch.
Is the pinned post guide good or are there better ones out there?
>>7722150mogs me
i miss peril
>>7722133Everyone draws at their own pace. Think of it like putting on mass at the gym or something.Some people really gotta work for it, some people are total freaks. A shitty sketch takes me like 50 minutes but that's just if I'm aware of a time limit. Then as far as a sketch being "right" goes it just depends on whether or not I'm familiar with things.
>>7722156So everyone who was here at the beginning of the year left? It's over
i miss permabegschizo, pawell, and tableguy
another before bath drawingtried doing something more pleasant like anon suggesteddidn't have any references but it was chill
>>7722162All three of them are leading happy lives outside drawing.
>>7722181giwtwm
>>7722183I was thinking of asking in the water cooler thread do people have a social life outside of art? Any friends? or do they just stare at a screen all day and come here for social interaction.
>>7722167Almost the ideal combo.Consider Fatherly Cleric/Paladin and Twinky Thief
>>7720929fucking source?
>>7722202ugh hot combo, maybe tomorrowkinda reminds me of Bishop iler and his Fatima, ananda from five star storiesextremely subtle subtext there btw, also fatimas can't say no so that's just great thanks nagano
>>7722212Is that cross all the head construction you do?
I’ve been practicing lighting and shadows from imaginationThe mandarins were my first attempt, and the girl on the couch is my latest practice, both done over the past 2 daysAny feedback, video tips, or book recommendations are appreciated
>>7722213I don't really have a set method for constructing the head, I just play around with it until I'm satisfied.
>>7721440Lines done. I'll keep trying to do the best I can.
just realized i'm the permabegschizo of social life
Playing around with Clara again. I should try out more action stuff
I drew what ever this is.
how do you foreshorten the lower leg
Made another drawing.
>>7722235WHERE THE FUCK IS THE MOTHERFUCKING ENGINEER MOTHERFUCKER?
>>7722235mucho gusto
>>7722236My other bros either dont play DRG or dont have an OC and didnt want to put generic engineer along with the OCs.
>>7721848Yeah... something wrong with it?
i have to draw dick and balls for the first time
>>7720846Uhh I messed up
spent two-three hours on this dogshit. by the time I was "done" I had too many things wrong to realize I am not learning anything.My intent was to make something dynamic like this character was lunging downwards.reference:https://files.catbox.moe/skj5bx.PNG
can someone give me anatomy advice for this piece? hes supposed to be jerking off in the other person's face. I feel like his left arm looks off though. any advice appreciated. second pose he's lighting a cigar if its unclear.
>>7722273strade? my beloved?
>>7721456Another sketch How is it
>>7722279Are you the guy who was drawing his comic with a mouse and then started doing realistic lara croft a soon as he got a tablet?
>>7722273Aren't you redgosstrip or whatever?
>>7722280No, I don't know who you're talking about
>>7722278yes heh>>7722283nope, not sure who that is
>>7721829Are you trying to improve or are you satisfied with how your art looks?
Disgusting little beast
>>7722305u should treat him with respect
How do I learn to draw without a reference? I just use the CSP 3d models to make anime girls. Is there a recommended book I can copy twice to "get" anatomy?
>>7722305his greed sickens me
>>7722133>am I just getting 1-shot by social media and the "rkgk" and "just a lil 15 min doodle" type posts and only freaks are fast?a lot of those are jokes/being ironic or they are just lyingspeed comes with experience, being efficient by making less mistakes, refining your workflow, knowing where you can cut corners, knowing your subject matter very well. so basically just a lot of drawing.
if i just event through these i would go from high-beg to mid/high int but it feels like a grind, i have to try making personal pieces but i dont actually want to draw anything, hopefully i escape this mental loop
>>7721928Those are fucking awesome again
>tfw too dumb for Loomis
Practicing with Frank Sinatra but I'm slowly ending up with Andy Griffith lmao. How do you guys properly train your eyes to see "Value"? I can't seem to grasp it. Also my lines are shit.
>>7722139np :3i will>>7722290both, im happy with my stylebut i will always want to improve
>>7722156i also miss peril.
>>7721779I tried putting some extra effort, using more time, and have a try at shading. Not sure if I ruined it or not
>>7722167
>>7722410i gave you a follow on twitter btw! thanks
What do you guys think?
>>7720848
I think the mass reply anon and the permanently retarded anon fucked off because anon wounded them fatally by pointing out the thinly veiled attention grabbing attitude of the former and the poinlessness of the latter's bitching. The purpose of this message is not to make them come back, though they probably will because pride is one hell of a drug.
brainrot come i
>>7722636the face and hands need some work, but the shading looks goode
>>7722636face of a crack addict
>>7722429>will always want to improveWork on your line quality then, stop chicken scratching for starters
>>7722662eh, she could just learn lineart and do her sketches the same way. lots of people here chicken scratch and then line art over
>>7722664Not really, a messy sketch is one thing and chicken scratching is another, the challenge she made falls into the later, and looks bad as opposed to a messy sketch
what's the best artbook if I want to develop a japoneeze artstyle? I swear there's something in the atmosphere in japan that makes them draw like that. Anyways know any good jp artbooks or should I just draw a fucking box? I've even bought the shitty micron pens
>>7722669>I swear there's something in the atmosphere in japan that makes them draw like that.asian jeensit is cultural
>>7722669Most of the good jap artists grew up copying their favorite illustrations and manga. Most anime books are a beg trap, especially if they're intended for a western audience.
i have polished the turd. make fun of me for this, please. its bad
>>7722704it is fineproko cat though
>>7720846>>7721193
>>7722712H-haha..
>>7722730
What’s a good workflow to have where do I find one
I've found out that this way of practising multiple drawings of the same reference to be quite helpfull. You notice little mistakes in previous drawings, and the general flow of the drawing can be applied to later drawings of the same subject. I'm also far less likely to give up and sulk about my beg status, so I'll probably continue to do this.
>>7722669>I swear there's something in the atmosphere in japan that makes them draw like thatI blame their language. When every other character is basically a small work of art you're bound to pick up some skills along the way.
>>7722737Pick up penDraw until you pass outRepeat daily
>>7720846I tried
>>7722245It's just not right, all I'm saying.
>>7722812Obviously.. cuz its left
I tried to draw Picasso’s Stravinsky upside down and found it hard. Here’s the result.
>>7722669I dunno if the japanese books would work if you can't read the language. But I'm sure someone here can share some auto-translated jp drawing channels that for beginners.
Permabegschizo was found dead this morning...
Eternal Beg here,How do I add more values and make the colored things look real?I mean, they look fine under flat lighting, but when I try to give them some volume or make them look more realistic, they just end up looking flat and muddy.I’ve read a few painting guides and learned some things about color and values, but I still can’t figure it out.How do I add more volume without making it look off?
>>7722864i saw something about using complimentry colors in things like if thres some yellow use a lil purple.it doesnt seem like it belongs ther but for some reason it works?
>>7722669Copy anime and manga until your hands crumble into dust
I think I'll do a skin study next since I didn't get any good resources on rendering skin
>>7722861Oh no!
>>7722704Is this a cat doll or a real cat??
>>7722885Holy cozy workspaceLet me draw with you
going from posting every drawing I make to not wanting to post anything I draw pretty much at all has been very humbling. i will take back my manic posting and infinite confidence in sharing my art now matter how awful it is now plsis this a part of progress? becoming more self critical and less okay with your failures and more likely to scrap them than share? or is this regression of confidence
>>7722901Its supposed to be plushie..But i did proko it.. the other anon was right
>>7722885What are you drinking there?
>>7722906A little, but it’s not unsalvageable. The amount of detail on the cat vs the guy is a bit absurd though, try to simplify it so it reads as a cat more.
>>7722905I share my failures. Holds me accountable. Ill post one now. Lets see yours i'm sure they're fine
>>7722864I'm a beg at a similar stage too, so take what I say with a grain of salt. Value, from my understanding, is really just a way of describing or emphasizing form, since every value is essentially a discrete plane change. If you don't understand the underlying form, you won't be able to meaningfully apply values. Your drawings really aren't that bad, but they are ambitious and expose some of your weaknesses in form. For example, the two boxes are not in correct perspective. If you can't nail perspective of basic primitives, you're going to struggle with the infinitely more complex forms of human anatomy. I'm not saying autistically draw a billion boxes like drawabox, but it might help to understand and focus on the underlying three dimensional shapes, drawing them from multiple perspectives, and then accurately capturing the contours before focusing on values and color. Once your confident on accurately capturing form, then spamming value studies seems like a good use of time.
>>7722907Mocha
>>7722908Nah im done with this piece. I dont feel like working on it anymore. Ill accept the proko cat
>>7722909my iPads lines are completely fucked but here's the hall of shame slop I despise looking at lmao
>>7722923its gud. wud u like a shroom from the shroom ghoul?
>>7722938yeah I would love a shroom thank you
>>7722923They look nice. Dont overthink
>>7722921Aw alright
>>7722665whats the difference, i really dont know desui made it with neat lines this time>>7722664i kinda dig the chaotic lines style,stuff like this (pic is attached in post under)>>7722923grlorious slop>>7722938yesh
>>7722940thanks. i had quit digital altogether for ages because my pen (I assume it's the pen not the iPad??) is fucked except some random nonsense and i always feel so out of my element lol..trying not to >>7722945thanks! nice torso
>>7722949thanks :DDDand np :3>>7722945>>7722664here i really like stuff like this
tried doing a study of my husbando Kai, it's far from perfect but I still think he looks sexy
Todays ecchi studies
Todays yaoi studies
Here something i just made
>>7722986Whys it always rotated.. baka
>>7722907yerba mate
>>7722987i won't lie i though that was fucking nikocado
whoever suggested the priest and thief drawing, ty this was fun>>7722986great job>>77229884chan scrubs exif data, which done phones use to mark orientationif you crop the image first, it'll overwrite the base orientation so it doesn't require the offset to be maintained
>>7722945Looks a lot better, chicken scratching is using short, hesitant strokes; in a messy sketch you can tell the artist knows what he's doing because the "mess" comes from dynamism/experimentation. Chicken scratching is ugly because it's the signature of the unskilled, a messy sketch otoh can be very appealing (your first try was not, anyone telling you otherwise is sabotaging your growth)
>>7722994Huh? How lmao
>>7722997Thanks paigey. Didnt know it scrubs the exif. Ill keep it in mind. Lovely drawing as always
>>7723007thanks desuthey used to not get rid of the exif, and ppl would dox themselves without meaning to bc some phone automatically tag pics with location lol
>>7722998thanskies ;3ahh i see, thanks for explanation>>7722986nice clothing folds
>>7723018>tag pics with location lolyeah, i remember that, i used to always scrub the exif before posting. but i guess they changed it which got me fucked up
>>7723054Yeah they got rid of that a few years ago
Trying to upscale sprites for more dramatic moments
wipten million hours detailing chamber this had better crack 2 likes
>>7723114what is it? also this shouldnt have taken more than 1 hour
beekeeping
>>7722247idk what im doing, open to any help
>>7723137i also drew dick and balls for the first time.nice pose.
>>7723146comparing urs and mine i can now see that i gave him an abnormally skinny penis lol, thx for the help anon
>>7723153>comparing peniseswhat are you, gay?? glad it helped.
You're supposed to do studies wtih clear references right? spent 2 hours on this, most of the time struggling to make out details because of the low res character sheet.
>>7722987lmao wtf is that
>>7723171it might be a bit low res, but i think the contrast of the scan is good and helps a lot with seeing the shapes in the drawing, especially the hat
I just found this cute grafitti while hunting for bulding/trees references, I want to try diims later
>>7723241I thought so as well when I attempted it, but started gettin annoyed when zooming in to see the hair and his eye because of the blurry pixels. I liked doing the charcoal shadows more than the drawing and that part was rushed to fuck because I was tired, took 30 minutes.
wow this thread is really dead now that most people left
WIPping
>>7723268Seems to be a good thing.
>>7722923awful digislop, higher quality picture. shit
>>7723268Qrd
>>7723293Permabegschizo stopped drawing
>>7723079Bah this could have come out better.
>>7721541So. The apple on the left is mine. The one on the right is the how its supposed to look after blending. I dont get it.
>>7723311I think your apple looks fine, better than the other one.
>>7723297I dont know who that is but i hope he gets better.
another before bath drawing
>>7723297Good riddance.
>>7723297Who even is that?
>>7723297>pbs quits (he'll be back tho) >>7723321>>7723351>two people materialize on /beg/ immediately after/beg/ is growing
Something quick, just so hopeless and sad.
>>7723407why does he have cat ears
>>7723415Looks cute.
>>7720846>>7722751
>>7723417I'm not really feline it tbqh
>>7723407sex
I've finally escaped from Silksong purgatory and can get back to the grind. I decided to do some back anatomy study today, but got kind of distracted. I ended up fixating on cross contours and form. Then somewhat arbitrarily added some shading. It took almost 2 hours, so it's a really inefficient way to study anatomy. I could have done 4-6 normal studies in the time I wasted, but I had a good time. I guess I'll do more back studies tomorrow.
>>7723311Switched to the Proko tut on digi painting. Is it normal for digital painting to look different/better from afar?
>>7723427imagine what it would taste like if you licked his muscles after a workout
>>7723432salty coins and milk
Following the guide, and this is what I made
>>7723439ur image is upsidedown
>>7723440I thought that was the point
>>7721879https://files.catbox.moe/vzw6uf.jpg
>>7723433dad flavored...
>>7722221I want to work on the eyes more, they colors don't look quite right. Hoping to finish tomorrow.
>>7723407Where is the lizard rape
>>7723461You draw cute faces
been a minute since i drew portraits
>>7723477It depresses me further that this is what I get associated with, it shows how boring I actually am after all, in 6 months all I've done was reassure myself that there's no reason for me to be alive in this world.I'm at a dead end.
>>7723491You should draw what you want to draw. I ask for the lizard rape because I am into that kind of shit and seeing it with your newfound skill would be kinda dope ngl.
>>7723442You're supposed to flip it over, compare against the copy you drew right-side up, and remark "whoa, I really can draw!!"It's a confidence booster exercise really.
>>7723493>It's a confidence booster exercise really.lol
>>7722150Check your posture in real life king
Wip
why is there an anime general but nothing for people inspired by western work? i want to see everybody go through their sargeant phase
>>7723545you can post those in /beg/, /int/, /studies/, /draw/ or /trad/
I should just grind copies until they're easy.
>>7723565copy pasting in drawing form will be extremely damaging in the long run. Draw nigga DRAW
>>7723572neurons activated
how do you make a character look a certain way? My characters look all cross-eyed
>>7720846Drawing this sucked
>>7723541Update
>>7723572didnt you copy this too? Ive seen this character in this exact style somewhere before
>>7723608not mine, it's showing a construction. artist is fuck off
>>7723430I think you feel like that because you over-blurred the edges, so it looks smudgy up close. I wasn't a fan of that tutorial series because the teacher loves blurry/lost edges to death and kinda kills the piece IMO.
Haven't had much time or energy to draw. So mainly sketches and a quick set of studies.>>7722997You're welcome! Thank you for drawing it. Love your rendition.>>7723114Really cool. Took me a second to figure out what I was looking at.>>7723427Fucking nice. Really appealing study.>>7723488Cute. Would.
>>7723114idk wtf this is but its sick>>7723323gettin gud
>>7722806Like. But you really did you own thing didn't you
>>7723449You really have the observation skills of a hamster.This is the 10th image you post where everything is off. From the perspective to the tiny little details. It's amazing how you fuck it up that much
>>7722864You are not a beg to me, and you already have your own style. Good job
>>7723635and you have the brain of one, he's obviously not copying it like you retards, you can even see the construction. failure of a generation.
>>7723637Seethe and cope
>>7723633emo I picked u flower it's nice to see you again>>7723631ty desu glad you like it
And today too, I tried my best.Zalbag, from final fantasy tactics.
>>7723639flower pick?gud 2 c u
>>7723633Dunmer?
>>7716339this thread has a much harder femchallenge, couldn't make it for today>>7722864>Eternal Beg here(die talentfag) cool style! reminds me strongly of 'the case of the golden idol'>>7722007SOVL
>>7723635TRVKE, I suck at observation and need to work on it, but like I said in a previous thread, the goal of those studies is to get fast so I can complete lolitober (the loliphile version of inktober) this year, so I'm trading accuracy for speed.
Are these better than 3d models?https://x.com/rockarollahaze/status/1857884169092870604/video/2
>>7723646for u, I think it might be autistic though sry
I'm a complete noob when it comes to digital coloring, what's the fastest way to lay flat colors once you have a readyish lineart? Just playing with tolerance to see what level covers all those little I guess semi transparent spots surrounding the lines? The laso fill tool? Btw these spots, which I guess come from the softness of the brush, also appear when I'm using brushes with 0 softness and 100% opacity/flow such as the faux manga inker (not this one though)I'm using sketchbook, if it makes any difference
>>7723644Forgot to ask for suggestions, corrections, redlines
>>7723730If you have super clean lines then bucket tool but generally people just fill in flats manually in whatever way they find comfortable. Some do a pass for the whole character first to make sure there won't be any gaps
>>7723737>super clean lines>pass for the whole character firstI see, thank you, it's basically what I tried to do for my first couple of colored pieces. I guess it comes down to choosing between being clean and orderly with lineart from the beginning or paying the time toll later anyway
>>7723743Yeah a lot of the time very clean lines look kind of dead so people leave gaps etc for a better impression. One trick you can try is doing a magic wand selection of the canvas around the character and then inverting that to quickly get started
>>7723728muhsoom frenu ever see those old art nuvo or art deco i forget procuct labels n stuff that shit was fire wish i cud draw like that
>>7723756yeah art deco is cool desu I might be biased bc I liked bioshock as a kid
This place has been filled with unironic discord tumblr freaks. Nothing but disgusting tumblrslop of freaks, obese browncoded shemales and shit.
>>7723763I don't see them. Are the browncoded shemales and shit with us itt anon?
>>7723759ya that game was v nice looking when it first dropped.i wish the big daddy drill guy cud do the charlston
sketch for /a/ request
doodlydoo
>>7723787nice use of perspective bro this is fun to look at!>>7723684i considered getting one of those figures for the longest, i am not sure which ones are the best because i always heard mixed reviews
>>7723684They're either equivalent to 3d models or worse. The joints can be very finnicky and fall out of their pose, you need either a stand or hold it yourself for a lot of poses which is annoying, and trying to get pictures from more extreme angles can be tough.
>>7723659Thanks for the challenge. I missed it too.
Good stuff being posted right nowKeep up the good work lads
shoddy simplified skeleton and horse skull, and a dog study from book
head too small? not aligned? what is it
Trying to draw again after doing nothing last month aside from doomscrolling -_-
>>7723844it was probably both, is this acceptable? >>7723848you can do it anon
>>7723849Thank you! I'm gonna try and get back into the habit of drawing daily, just a bit frustrated with myself for being such a quitter, wish I was more consistent T_T I also like your drawing, wish I could give any critique but i'm not really at that skill lvl lol
>>7723859No worries You mog me at faces anon. You're gmi
beg on beg crimesorry i had too
>>7723863which esl faggot are you again
>>7723865the black one
>>7723866makes sense
