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If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates, howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life
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>>7771004
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Why
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>>7774282
what is appropriate amount of legs?
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>>7774318
post ref?
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>>7774321
Retard-kun...
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>didn't make it into OP yet again
aaAAaaAAaaAAaaAAaa
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request for a drawthread
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>>7774325
i think i saw that before. Did you use reference?
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I got myself Proko Basics, NMA Beginner's Guide to Drawing and Peter Han Sketching. I am an absolute beginner. What am I in for?
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>>7774320
Eight legs, full spider
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>>7774333
Did you try to open it?
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>>7774328
somewhat based on picrel but standing
and the requester refs https://files.catbox.moe/u7bge7.jpg
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>>7774338
more refs from him
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>>7774320
About the same length as the rest of the body. The bent leg seems a bit long if you straighten it out but the straight leg seems okay
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>>7774336
That's like 100h of courses, tomorrow I will get myself some pens and paper. I just wonder if somebody used these courses and could share if they are indeed good. I was told to start with Proko.
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>>7774251
digital "artists" will call ai slop.
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>>7774320
anon, did you fall in love with my OC? Haha, i think you did good job. Legs are usually the same size as the top of head to crotch ratio, but those proportions can be stylized, so I would say whatever looks attractive in certain situation.
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>>7774348
do you have a finished piece of her? maybe i will draw
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>>7774335
don't get mad catanon. I like your girls
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>>7774351
god stop whining, do you ever shut the fuck up
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>>7774320
It's ok
as a rule the height of the upper body should be equal from the pubic bone to the ankle, and for a tall figure it can even go a little over like picrel
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>>7774356
this is ai
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>>7774356
This is somewhat similar to what I have in mind.

>It's ok
don't jump to its ok yet.
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>>7774366
no it's not
it's from azur lane game from like 2018~2019
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>>7774356
the girl isnt but the background is, or at least the green board to the right. its got that weird warped look to it, the yellow text specifically,
odd thing to use ai for.
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>>7774352
nope, only this sketch that i posted.

>>7774373
what the heck hahaha, reminds me of Monster Musume

How it looks?
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>>7774373
can she kiss my drow spider girl or is it off limits (asking original character owner)
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>>7774347
Wat?
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>>7774387
Sience you asking nicly go for it haha.
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Can I please have a critique on these heads?
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>>7774353
Huh? I just like spider girls
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>>7774373
WOOOOOO SPIDERS
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>>7774348
>fall in love with my OC? Haha,
Just an opportunity to move the pen. but your catgirls are nice
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>>7774401
they are not very good anon
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>>7774314
he is korean
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I need to change how I am practicing... maybe practice gestures? copy studies?
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>>7774423
What are you currently doing for practice?
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im sick, i cant even tell if these are good or terrible
i couldnt work on the course im doing either. its over for me bros, go on without me
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>>7774432
they are good
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>>7774431
sketches from reference
sometimes timed, sometimes not... the time isn't important, trying to get the basic form first before going into details. I don't think I'm improving this way.
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>>7774314
https://files.catbox.moe/tmr8ub.jpg
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looking back i probably should've added more light on the belly
>>7774401
i like the bottom row, especially bottom left
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>>7774325
built for paizuri
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>>7774438
Take your time to be more accurate if you're not trying to go fast, mentally verbalize your findings as you correct them, and try to apply your newly acquired knowledge in the following drawings, those hands for example, I imagine the must've been different in your reference? Anyway, I see a potentially very lovely style in the rough, anon
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Is using gradiant maps at the end of a piece cheating? I tried it and I noticed that it smoothed out some leftover brushstroke textures that I really hated, but I can't help but feel that I did something wrong.

Then again, I also stick to one layer and fear things like multiply will handicap my progress, so I'm either on the right path or paranoid.
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>>7771597
blog??
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practice for today
>>7774325
lookin real nice, anon
>>7774379
moon looks a bit too big
lightbulb could be a bit bigger
you won't get much candy with trickortreat bags that smoll
otherwise nicely done
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Does the robe read as translucent? Also general thoughts?
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>>7774492
thanks for the advice anon. you are correct the hands are absolutely fucked compared to the reference. the reasons I was trying for speed were:
>someone here on /ic/ told me I was spending too much time on each drawing
>switched to trad because it was faster, and because /ic/ told me I wasn't using the correct drawing software
>was still told I was taking too long, started doing 15 minute timed drawings
>getting distracted with details and missing the bigger picture
>turd polishing
>trying to be more efficient with limited practice time
as stupid as it sounds, filling out a physical sketchbook kind of feels like accomplishing something and helps to stay motivated
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wtf i got in the op!!!!
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>>7774314
scrap probably
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>>7774525
Ass is too good to scrap, get back at it
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How do I get out of trying to copy poses and actually undersand them.
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>>7774525
Very expressive pose, I really like this
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>>7774508
Part of it will depend on rendering but as of now yes.
Looks good but the abs feel like they're facing a bit too much towards the camera. That might just be me though
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>>7774537
love the sky
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Fuck, I can't even comprehend actually being able to draw the things I see in these threads. Makes trying to learn how to draw feel like a completely pointless endeavor since I don't see how it's possible to reach it.
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>>7774529
Vandruff recommends trying to draw the poses from another angle and then checking if you made mistakes (pose collections with the same pose from multiple angles are invaluable for this). Additionally, you can always get one of these and make it follow references so that you can touch and see from other povs what's going on with certain poses
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>>7774542
you might believe
>if success is unlikely, why waste effort trying?
but what you are really saying is
>I want to guarantee failure by not even trying
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>>7774548
Gonna try that
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>>7774532
>the abs feel like they're facing a bit too much towards the camera. That might just be me though
I think you're right actually. Thanks for pointing that out
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drawing for now
tried doing rolo and lelouch sharing a moment together
was hard to get the geass style
lelouch looks scuffed
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>>7774550
Perhaps my brain fears the unknown more than it fears failure.
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>>7774505
lines
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I'm making some cards.
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>>7774574
For what purpose?
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>>7774505
>>7774572
cute
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>>7774575
Do Art Daily submissions. If I'm not trying to keep up in the challenge, I get complacent and lazy and days go by too quickly in my life.
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i'm trying to draw this angle but i feel there is something not fitting
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What's a good project to pick up for a complete nodraw beginner interested in non-commercial character illustration to form the habit of drawing everyday and learn the basic fundamentals while applying the project-based approach to keep things more interesting and minimise the chance of dropping out?
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>>7774540
haha yea i need to practice faces
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>>7774314
Copying actual artists loosely like this is very fun.
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>>7774610
Any artist suggestions for copy practice like this?
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>>7774601
Pick something related to your interests and try to design and world build around it, if it's an existing IP plagiarize it to whatever degree you want, it's a personal project so feel free to take as much inspiration you want from it.
Same with the creative process, use 3D, trace over ref, photobash, paint over an existing photo/picture. It's kiddie pool level of shortcut but it will get you started. If stuck, pick an entry level video on sketching/construction or dip your feet on form and value from a beg proof video on the subject like Marc Brunet or Sinix, then add other things like perspective and color if you feel curious, or how PS,CSP or Blender work, there's no particular order, same with jewtubers, it's your pick, listen to whoever makes sense the most for you currently, and accept that some of what they're saying may go over your head, same while doing projects, you're going to miss a lot of stuff but you develop awareness from looking and judging at your own work based on what you want to create, so if you haven't figured out what artist do you like, look at some artists, their artbooks if available and take some inspiration from them, it can be general or specific as in studying their line art, shape design, color palette, understanding it then giving it your own spin when creating your own pieces.
What is the project about is up to you (x character with turnarounds, x amount of bgs/props> while using the methods previously mentioned), same with made up deadlines, don't overwhelm yourself and try not have an existential crisis because your character pose is looking like cardboard on a void, that's expected, good luck anon.
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senile scribbles
>>7774379
ahwww cute
>>7774373
sexy
>>7774508
she reminds me somehwat of bayonetta
very nice
>>7774565
ooo old fashioned animu style
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>>7774627
power couple
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>>7774612
ketoponpon
ketsumaimo
tukemono6500
off the top of my head.
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rough quicky that I'll regret even posting.
But: sketches for the sketch god. Boxes for the box throne.
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>>7774525
crazy good
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>>7774508
How I wish I drew it.
Ungh
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>>7774610
Nigga if you dont start actually trying you aint going to get better.
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Today's challenge.
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What book will help me learn how to draw cowtits like these?
https://x.com/NAZENANI3634/status/1701579974434787392/photo/1
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>>7774659
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>>7774659
study loomis heads but add nipples instead of faces>>7774666
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Bull andbear
Cant finish any drawings man fug. Sketches forever for all time
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highly unfocused before bath doodles
I think my brain is burnt out and may need to recharge
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>>7774713
you're amazing nonnie. great stuff. blog?
love your bull
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>FUCKCKCKCKC
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>>7774732
I think his left forearm looks a bit thick, even accounting for perspective. the shading is nice though
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>>7774713
Incredible
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>>7774725
GungaQuest on insta and twitter.
Recently posting my art, there’s nuthin in there but stupid failed reels to get followers, but I promise I will post more serious(?) art plz I beg you
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>>7774739
thank you.
nice faces sketchbook. I wanna get physical sketchbook sometime.
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>>7774314
I stopped drawing for 4 days and now i dont know what to do, i just draw some circles and cubes but nothing comes out of my brain, i was thinking on doing gesture drawing but it sucks.
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>>7774736
Huh, I thought it was the other way around, that I did a good job on the perspective but the shading looks kinda meh
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>>7774753
the perspective is good imo, just the left arm looks odd which is why it stood out in comparison to the rest of the piece
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>>7774713
>bobo and mumu
based
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>>7774750
draw a crossdressing man
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>>7774769
>>7774773
Soulful
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rough. Can you guess the character
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I feel ashamed of drawing this just because I didn't want to skip a day without drawing
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>>7774780
Some milenium hoe.
Too flat to be Rio.
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you can have and still be a starving artist?
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Trying to learn figure drawing in perspective from trial and error is kicking my butt but that's what is supposed to happen I guess. Rough sketch rotated 180 degrees for viewing convenience, it is hard to read in the intended orientation so far.
>>7774732
t. hisoka good skills though
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>>7774797
Just looking at it again now the figure isn't quite on the grid right anyways
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>>7774775
soul=prebeg
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>>7774646
I'm very undisciplined.
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>lurking 4chan instead of drawing
Someone come and kick me in the dick please
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>>7774816
prebeg but content
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How do you get over shame?
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How do I fake sovl?
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How do
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Howdy fellow art hoes. I’ve taken a long break from art and I recently started sketching again. Since my line are isn’t 100% complete, I was wondering if any of you guys will be willing to give me feedback before I begin the inking process.

Thanks for reading my blog post.
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>>7774850
You can't see it?
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>>7774831
I post almost all of my shit here to train this tbqh
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>>7774844
not good
follow pic related
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>>7774844
Bottom right is appealing although different from the ref. The rest aren't so great. Is that you Aizafag?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>7774857
I am tired. Of copying things. To force them to be 1:1. I am tired. of going over every fucking like 29 times over and over until the end result looks like nothing but a trace and I am nothing but burnt out. I can see the issues. I can see them. I don't want to go over it 6950 times total to make it perfect. I wasn't trying to make them exact either. Just practice. Just drawing. I don't want to trace on bluetooth mode. At least not every time I want to copy something. I want to draw it. Then see the issues. Then do. Something else.
>>7774859
That was the last one. And I don't know who's that. I'm an annoying prebeg that's constantly bitching and posting.
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>>7774866
SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>7774866
>I don't want to trace
you're not, you're training your eyes
and you need this training until you start being more sensitive to angles and proportions
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>>7774325
no big titty anime girl this time
just a random frogerino to practice penwork
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>>7774880
I am going. To never even think of drawing again in my life if I have to do 1:1 copies of everything I want to draw and exercises about fucking boxes and random human poses all day. It isn't exact. The angles are off. The proportions are off. The perspective is off. I. See. It. I'm not redoing it until it looks like I scanned it with a printer. I want. To draw. Without it. Making me want to kill myself. Not everything needs to be perfect. Not all copies need to be 1:1. I will get things wrong. Over and over and over again. I can't. Help it. But the solution. Isn't drilling the same thing over and over until my head hurts. And if it is the optimal way. Then I'd rather be unoptimal and not quit.
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>>7774601
Take a public domain franchise you like and do some character illustrations for it. Since it's already been designed most of the hard work has been done for you. Most have multiple adaptions already, you can find reference easily. Designing new stuff is too hard for beginners. Don't worry about being original at first.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_domain_works_with_multimedia_adaptations

Anytime you find yourself asking questions, write them down. Use the recommended resources to study from and find answers to the questions that come up. Apply what you learn to fix old pieces or on new ones.
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Who draws the best fat cocks? I found that the tag for this size is gigantic_cock and so far the best is Krekkov but it is quite weird to use his cock drawings for reference since he has said that he uses his own cock as reference himself.

it would be some kind of metaphysical cucking drawing his cock fucking my waifu.
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>>7774915
fellatrix must have drawn a cock of every shape possible by now
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>>7774666
Do you think it would be possible to build an airplane with that?
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>>7774890
doing the wrong thing repeatedly won't result in doing the right thing by miracle
of course it doesn't need to be perfect, but at least the general proportions and angles should match
that's why I keep bringing >>7774857 up
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>>7774934
Yes. Bringing it up is all you do. Let me put it clearly. I don't care. I'm not going to draw in a way that sucks the soul out of me. I don't care if I don't follow the learning methods 1:1. I don't care if what I put down doesn't look exactly how I wanted. I want to draw and I will simply draw. I'll see what's wrong. I'll note it in my mind. And I'll keep drawing. If I want to do an exercise about observation then I'll care about things being exactly what they should be, if I feel like it. Thanks. And I wasn't asking for advice in the post you replied to in the first place. I'm not blind. I can see that they don't look like the references much.
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>>7774941
Nta, listen, nobody likes copying 1:1 but he does have a point, if you don't want to go over a piece multiple times, which I agree is soul crushing, make it right the first time around
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>>7774881
Very nice frogerino, good work on the overall shape of him.
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>>7774379
Laughably bad perspective, literally not the background or the figures are properly drawn in perspective.
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>>7774320
at least 4 more legs
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couple last emilio dekure copies. gonna stop doing those and return to fig studying
>>7774713
this looks incredible man fuck...
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>>7774947
w...why did you draw a sketch of me?
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>>7774961
and here's an attempt at drawing a fig in dekure's style
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>>7774903
I can see this being the Mona Lisa in an alternate universe where Reinassance aesthetics were for some reason historically replaced with anime, good job anon
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>>7774941
Work on a bigger canvas and make beautiful shapes (lines), by looking at your refs (hopefully in decent res and not pixelated to shit) blocking hair as solid shapes of value and paying attention to the outer edges, I sort of get your point, but at least make the most of the ref if you don't care about 1:1 copies, push for design, even if the ref is blurry or crappy, make it your goal to give it a clean and confident look so it ends up looking better
>but I like pixel/opacity brush
doesn't matter, same thing applies.
>for actual drawings
lasso and transform tool, or stomach and pride if you don't like fixing shit
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>>7774962
i need u anon
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God please grant me talent.
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>>7774857
1:1 recreation should only be attempted when you're doing a master/copy study (which is why it's valid of you to bring accuracy up, but your picrel is meh). never do a 1:1 when you draw with reference, unless you're aiming to become a photocopy monkey with no artistic voice like proko. it's gay
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>>7774973
>God please grant me talent
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>>7774941
>I'm not going to draw in a way that sucks the soul out of me
kinda based. I also never did that exercise the anon posted or tried to get a reference correct mukltiple times cause it just seems so unfun to me. Most I did was maybe overlay my drawing over the ref if I was trying to copy, and noting where I was wrong, but unless I really liked a reference, I'd just move on even if it was total shit.
Maybe it's not the fastest way to improve, but you can definitely still improve if you're conscious of the mistakes you're making.
I do agree with >>7774970, focusing on shapes can really help as well. But do what makes you happy. Progressing slowly is better than not progressing at all because you quit drawing.

>>7774973
fuck talent, just work hard and get better by your own merit
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>>7774996
>fuck talent, just work hard and get better by your own merit
Famous last wor.ds
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>>7774998
Sounds like quitter talk.
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regular claw grip or forearm grip? I've seen many elite artists go with forearm. Should I invest the time it takes to master forearm grip?
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>>7774915
tangential thought -- why do so many otherwise skilled artists neglect studying gentials? this is more true for doujinshi. I've seen artists draw beatifull bodies and the the cock is just like a tapered tube with no detail or shaping
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>>7775008
finally a drawing
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>>7775008
great hatching
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>>7775005
looks very good, even as a sketch
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flop. can't copy trad well beacuse setchy pencil lines don't translate well to the thick brush I use.

so, anyons. maybe this time I'll get lucky. any guidance? I like these:
>>7775008
>>7775005
>>7774713
from this thread and I wanna draw like that.
on a separate topic, are there any drawing manuals that revolve around digital art? something that elaborates on use cases for layer types, tools, etc.
if I get told that I should 'experiment' I will have a talent meltdown
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>>7775016
Your torsos are too long and the shoulder looks lumpy and malformed. Needs more Loomis.
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>>7775020
Oh, and the arm contours are fucked too , especially on the forearm.
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>>7775016
just experiment bro
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>>7775020
what do you mean my torsos are too long, I copied the proportions of the drawing on the left
>>7775022
nigga...
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>>7775016
>something that elaborates on use cases for layer types, tools, etc.
Are you using CSP? I don't have a drawing manual for you, but CSP specific stuff is generally explained pretty well in their manual.
https://help.clip-studio.com/en-us/First_Topic.htm
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>>7775016
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library
Check out section 1 maybe itll help
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Trying to see if I can put it in the work and do multiple studies of panels. I think this is the only dog that appears in the entire manga.
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>>7775044
why does it have a wart in the ear tho
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made this meme as a request for fun, what's wrong with my coloring? this took me 3 hours btw, so don't point out the messy chicken scratches i just got tired
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>>7775047
i mean i know a lot is wrong with it especially since i bored out so it looks like i didn't try
but i don't understand why it took me so long, so if i could have advice on how to be faster so i can add more details/lightning/shadows that in itself would be good advice
i'm using krita
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>>7775045
It's an implant or something, modded dog
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bit of a low quality unfortunately
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>>7775049
the quality is pretty shit, why are you copying this? surely you can find better quality manga.
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Forcing myself to paint agian to chang out my summer paintings for autumn ones
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It isn't over?
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>>7775036
>https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library
this seems like it could be useful, from a passing glance. thanks!
>>7775034
I use drawpile
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help me on the perspective on the bg please, perspective on figures is easy but i fuck up objects
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I'm not sure how to colour it. Or if I should leave the face of the monster as it is or if I should draw in the rest of it's head that I roughed out in the bottom corner.

The creature's meant to be made of shadow and I was planning on drawing the background as a dark void to emphasize how alone the character feels. No idea how to go about doing that.
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>>7775096
Maybe like this? idk.
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>>7775016
I don't think our skills are really that different from you to want to draw like me.
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>>7775100
well, regardless, love your hatching
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>>7774970
This is reasonable. I was doing only faces because I'm already doing bodies with figure drawing so I wanted to draw what I was getting the least practice with but sure doing the whole thing makes more sense since it'll point out mistakes. I'll keep it in mind and try to do something with it but most of the images I randomly want to draw are usually just faces. Considering starting copying like a manga page (not one to one, like one character that's a big part of it visually or multiple smaller bits) so maybe that'll have a bit more bodies
>>7774996
I mean it's not that bad if you know what you're in for but I don't think anyone can mentally bear correcting their drawing a thousand times because they never get it exactly right. Doing it like once a week at most I think would be the limit before you mentally get torn apart by it.
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I don't think I understand how to see and draw rotation, like if you asked me to draw a box around any part of the reference image, let's say a human head, I wouldn't even know how to begin since I can't see the correct front plane, or can't draw it with a correct angle. Do I just need to draw more boxes?
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>>7775119
>actual sane prebeg
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What if I get better at symbol drawing?
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>>7775128
this is the secret. you'll just have to learn enough symbols
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dtiys
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>>7775129
Even the forbidden symbols which will summon the great old ones who the mere sight of can reduce a man to gibbering madness?
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>>7775051
It looks beautiful anon, keep at it.
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>>7775155
ah so this is what hitler base the swastika off.... at last I truly see.
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>>7775155
I see an ass
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>>7775051
looks amazing, love your style
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I was going to use one piece for a manga to copy daily because I like it but looking at it now a lot of things are very off. Proportions and perspective are often blatantly wrong and there's a lot of morphing things for the sake of doing xyz pose. Anyone have any ideas for a manga it'd be good to copy? I'm thinking bleach could be ok considering the mangaka there is more about drawing than writing
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>>7774781
iktf.
And yours is much more finished and has more appeal than mine
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>>7775051
Gorgeous
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>>7774972
damn, there really is someone for everyone, huh?
Except for me, of course.
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>>7775213
Fag.
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any advice welcome
there's a bunch of flaws i can see myself but i've already spent 2 hours on this so i think i'll stop here and move onto something else
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>>7775247
How could you tell?
>>7775251
The pose of the guy on the right is a little off and the hand is quite off. Are you using any references? Maybe even pose 3d models to make them be standing how those 2 are and look at the differences
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>>7775255
i was using this as a reference, but since the character is covered with clothes i had to try to figure it out myself
i'll try improving it with posemyart but for now my brain can't process it anymore, thank you for the advice
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>>7775255
Idk why I made him so thin. I'm gonna try to do observation exercises at least for a little bit daily because there's clearly something not ok with my brain. Iq issue, perhaps.
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My daughter posed for me but the perspective doesnt match what im trying to draw
I am cooked
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>>7775259
I think then you got the back wrong and made his front look kinda weird. Like it doesn't deform enough for that position. I am certain that the belly button is wrong also. Idk why I say so much when I don't know anything sorry
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i plan to attach a dick to this later on.
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>>7775264
Thought I was in /lsg/ for a second.
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>>7775269
I-it better reach to her a-ankles....
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extremely beg incoming but question: is this a bad way to go about copying? i sort of chicken scratch it until the lines feel right, then clean up. should i aim to get it right on the first stroke? (it feels impossible)
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>>7775275
I tried to help by showing how I'd doing but it ended up looking like a chinese blood demon. Idk. Look at the red o algo. You've to compare the proportions and angles on the original and do a rough outline and then put it down not just put it down. Draw over the ref too to see the angles clearly then transfer. Measure things too with lines. Idk. Man I really can't see shit with the bright red on top of dark blue
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>>7775282
thanks that's actually really helpful
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See the heads are too separate because I rushed it and didn't compare proper. Now I'm pissed and wanna do the whole thing but I gotta go outside now.
>>7775284
Awesomesauce
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>>7775251
SEX
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>>7775286
have fun outside anon i gained like 10 drawing iq points thanks to you
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can anyuone motivate me to draw again
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>>7774965
>>7774961
not enough detail
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>>7775296
>>7774784
i kind of look like a lot of the characters you draw
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Aside from ending it all what are my next steps
Are there anything salvageable here? Any advice?
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>>7775321
i know
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>>7775319
it's really fun
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>>7775326
it's not fun at all when it comes out nothing like what you want
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>>7775323
this drawing is not salvageable
you need a reference picture, one day you'll be able to draw without a reference but not for now
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>>7775328
accept that you suck and just draw for the fun of learning
if something doesn't come out like you want, post it here and ask for help to make it the way you want
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This redraw is kicking my ass. I'm losing track of what is going where on the original
>>7775275
You could do some quickposes practice with drawing things with one stroke before drawing every day. I've seen amazing artists start with basically vomit for their early sketches. Like a doctor with shit handwriting, so long as the end product is satisfactory I don't think it matters.
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>>7775323
learn basic proportions
improve the eyes
split body part (don't draw the full arm in one go)
don't draw clothes while learning anatomy
if you are trying to draw from imagination, at least try the pose on yourself to see how parts of your body shift and move around, if you can't hold the pose yourself then it's a shitty pose
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>>7775326
my last (you) was months ago..
and i only posted drawings that period
it's sad
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>>7775337
i'm one of the worst posters here but >> your drawings i'll give feedback
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>>7775296
Z-zenitsu??
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>>7775271
No i am drawing adult women but having my daughter pose helps with understanding how things go
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Mostly wondering if this palette works. I want it to be a bit saturated/vibrant but it looked better when I turned the saturation down I think.
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>>7775337
Why would you care about getting responses from a place that’s 238% crabs?
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>>7775337
>drawing for attention
>drawing for attention in a thread that's 70% porn
you only have yourself to blame here
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>>7775413
drawing for attention is fun
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>>7775355
i like it but its kind of boring, maybe a pattern on his scarf/bandana thing would be nice
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>>7774314
https://youtu.be/8Y96CMg0_E0
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how does one draw arms? specially long sleeves? not sure if this correct word for what i am trying to say
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i hope god will strike me down
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>>7775275
update, feel like i learned some stuff with this drawing
onto the next drawing
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>>7775024
Both proportions of the drawings are wrong
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>dont draw for 3 days
>skills completely shattered, almost forgot how to hold the pencil, how much pressure to apply, how to actually draw appealing shapes
i fucking hate this hobby so much
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>>7775460
>>7775455
best itt
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>>7775460
the face is cute
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>>7775475
should've spent some time during that break just looking and observing things
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All my anime faces come out lopsided and the jaws dont fuckint work and look ugly and shit.
>>7775480
Must be nice having talent.
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>>7775484
Show the faces
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>>7775475
legit see a doctor if you're having issues like that after just a few days
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>>7775475
Just look at your previous work and what you think you did good and study why it's not coming out correctly like before. Then try again with the knowledge of how you fucked up. If you can't remember then just recheck again instead of trying to re-invent the wheel over and over.
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>>7775475
this happens to me and now i unironically have to get an MRI to see how bad my cerebral brain damage is, it's not normal anon
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People laugh at me
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>>7775507
Scum...
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>Hero, your cognitive resolution is low. Watch that.
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>>7775429
your lack of hubris will be your undoing
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>>7775514
>lack of hubris
i don't think you know what hubris means anon
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lord help me
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>>7775518
he scratches the chicken
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>>7775519
kek is it really that bad
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>>7775340
not really
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Fat bitch drawing but I've no idea of what a shadow is
>>7775518
Y'all really need to block that shit in first. Just block it in. Overlay that in the ref. Look if it's close enough. Then just go off of that
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>>7775475
If that's true then you might actually have a mental illness, as in real physical brain disorder. I should know, I've got ADHD that went untreated for 20 years after being diagnosed and developed comorbid bipolar disorder that got cripplingly bad in my late 20s. It's fucked my art over like you wouldn't believe. When I was low it genuinely made it hard to do things like simple math problems or any kind of problem solving, or to hold onto my thoughts in any real capacity, and I was like that a lot. I would go from drawing free as a bird, ultra instinct style to struggling to draw boxes without fucking it up. It was hell. Still sucks but I've gotten a little better.
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>>7775532
hell yea we need more fat drawings up in here
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>>7775538
I'm not going to lie to you. I love fat bitches and I wanna learn how to draw them real bad. But I can't right now.
Semi related toriel breast practice from when I was like 2 months into drawing before I quit like a week after
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>>7774958
I tired to fix it a bit. Any better?
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>>7775547
Whos going to tell the mummy girl that her flaps are out...
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>>7775547
it's time to learn
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Also anyone know that one website where there's like the ref sheets for animes and stuff. Is there one for bleach on those? I mean someone can just send the link to it and I'll figure it out myself.
Here's sonic wondering about it so I don't post anything without a drawing being included.
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>>7775554
setteidreams
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>>7775549
I read this book years ago, scott robertson too. Even get through Eric Olson course. I'm just not experienced with backgrounds and multiple characters i guess. Gonna practice that...
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doodle gods stay winning
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>>7775559
These are nice. I really don't understand though, how do you just doodle? It's not like you pick a subject and find a reference and whatnot, how do you figure out WHAT to even doodle in the first place?
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>>7775561
nigger tongue my anus, thats how
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>>7775556
Awesomesauce
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>>7775561
Just put the pen on the paper and then magic happens
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>>7775562
Rude :(
>>7775565
Well it doesn't happen for me. Most I can muster is random line scribbles that I then stare at dejectedly.
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>>7775566
Just put lines in the paper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz8Gm8ErRtI
Look at this. The ball guys. Draw ball guys. For fun.
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>>7775500
You're probably just retarded.
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>>7775559
The arrogant studycuck is back
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>>7775561
Why is it such a problem to you that someone doodles? Stop being a stupid nigger, faggot.
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>>7775561
Just stick to drawing Morgan Freeman portraits.
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>>7775547
No.
The characters look like they're supposed to be in a 2 point perspective and yet you draw the door in a 1 point.
The house, street, clouds and tree in the distance look flat as fuck and the lines of the sidewalk/driveway behind the mummy girl don't even converge to the same horizon as the doorframe.
Even the characters are poorly drawn.
The dude's neck,head and ear are misplaced and look deformed. Cat witch's ears misplaced and her tits are different sizes. There's also lots of weird annoying proximity tangents happening with her hat and tail with the door frame.
Conceptually it's a nice idea but you clearly lack a lot of fundamentals to pull it off
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>>7775516
It's an exaggeration. having confidence in your work is important (art or otherwise) regardless of what you perceive to be your own skill level. The other anon is relying on outside approval for personal drive which isn't going to get him very far in life. Learn to enjoy your work for it's own sake or perish like a slave.
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booba
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>>7775564
Peak post.
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>>7775532
no idea what "block that shit" means but i tried comparing it more to the reference, it really was quite off before, this is a little better
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>>7775600
sometimes i'll put the reference over my drawing to try to see what proportions are off, is this cheating? as in harmful for learning? it feels only a few steps removed from tracing
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>>7775586
>>7775589
Why are you so obsessed with niggers as to bring them up unprompted? Mom's new boyfriend left an impression?
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i can't stop drawing irony poisoned garbage, how can i stop being a millenial
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>>7775269
don't do it
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I think it hurts my copying when my eyes start to hurt after 5 minutes and I can barely even think of what I'm drawing or supposed to draw much less compare two images. Like what is this.
>>7775600
I still see differences but it is closer yeah. And blocking it in is like putting the the
Listen someone else will explain it okay I draw based on vibes I don't know how to explain
>>7775602
It's ok, Slowly you'll do it less and less.
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>>7775561
Why the fuck do you even draw then?
Isnt there something you want to illustrate?

>>7775547
>>7774379
It is very painful to see that after 15 years of drawing you only have to show some coomerslop tranime with very bad perspective. I am very sorry anon.
I dont have any contempt towards you or hate you but I find it very sad that you only have that.
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Guuuuuuyts wtf I blinked and it magically got fixed wha happeneeeeeeed
Man I really have like 3 thousand more bad copies in me don't I
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>>7775613
I see you posting and bitching all fucking day. Are you a NEET?
If so then you shouldnt have an excuse being this much of a petty asshole.
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>My deerqueen is getting fat again
>The lard goes to her face making her look like a downs.
Please my rape victim princess stop stuffing your fucking face.
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Please include my art in the collage next thread or else I’ll BAW.
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>>7775620
No actually but I am fat and retarded so I post all day wherever I'm currently interested. And why am I an asshole? I try to be nice to people. Sorry if I come off as rude. I try not to be. When I give advice it's always clarified that idk wtf I'm doing. And proved with images to not mislead. Sorry still.
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The more you eat the more you can draw.
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>>7775594
yeah you are right. i just wanted to draw something fun. I didn't know it was that bad. Sorry for wasting your time. I will do something else
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>>7775594
>>7775557
Here's roughly what I saw. I suggest trying to make a new grid like on the right and then redrawing the characters and background to match the grid.
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>>7775626
Did you draw the Sabrina faces from imagination in the previous thread?
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>>7775594
>characters look like they're supposed to be in a 2 point perspective and yet you draw the door in a 1 point.
You know there can be objects in 1pp, 2pp and 3pp simultaneously in the same picture depending on their orientation, right?
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>>7775628
Ignoring eating properly actually does genuinely help when trying to improve a skill. No hunger equals less distractions and the less of those the better.
>>7775632
Who the hell is a sabrina? And I only know how to draw sonic from imagination. I think you got the wrong person anon
>>7775633
The marvel book I saw told me about this
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>>7775559
blog
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>>7775617
>It is very painful to see that after 15 years of drawing you only have to show some coomerslop tranime with very bad perspective. I am very sorry anon.
>I dont have any contempt towards you or hate you but I find it very sad that you only have that.
well you just said true so i can't be mad about it. I guess drawing is not for me after all. Idk its not that i didn't try..
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>>7775633
Yes this is true, but he didn't do it correctly since he didn't align it to the same horizon. Often times it's much better to keep everything in the same orientation anyways to avoid confusion. Only do it if you're sure it will add a lot to the composition, which wasn't the case here.
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perspective is an hoax
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>>7775638
stfu raxav
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Guys I want to apologize to that one guy that really wanted me to copy things 1:1 and kept posting that one image. I was very mean when he had a point and what he says can be easily applied to the initial blocking in stage and then you go off of that. Just don't compare everything you do all the time and let yourself fail. But it's not a bad theory in itself. Very sorry. I think I'm getting the outline to be correct way easier due to following what he said.
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>>7775641
Thank you anon, very COOL.
See you next week for the next inevitable crashout.
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>>7775621
she's on antipsychotics
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>>7775646
I'm sorry for being mentally insane and retarded.
Also a week is too much. It'll happen again in 2 days. It'll be after getting another drawing tablet and doing poorly with it, and then schizoing out and drinking.
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>>7775598
drifting eye
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I actually did not completely dislike my pose practice today. I think i am improving.
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>>7775547
horrible framing
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>>7775654
Go copy hands (specially ones that are breakdowns of them so you know how to simplify them proper)) from anatomy books and stuff that's the only thing that got me to understand them to some extent
>>7775665
I wanna get to this point desu
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did a before bath study
wasn't that accurate, but it still came out somewhat coherent
the body was really rushed bc I didn't want my bath getting cold
do u guys like it
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>>7775676
Post the ref.
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>>7775679
I left out the water bc I didn't want to include it
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>>7775621
i know if no one is honest with me stalker kun will be
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god it looks so off I might just kms
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>>7775690
Based.
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this is the second time i've figured "it" out

I will probably randomly forget the secret again, but maybe this time it will take less time to remember it
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>>7775547
>>7775666

The whole scene reminds me of those cheap western porn comics, the kind that you see some weird ads for.

The fix for this is just making it a high or low POV, and using the perspective to save yourself from having to do any background work.
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>>7775693
kill yourself piggy
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>>7775682
Buy a drawing tablet and do what I'm doing for you. Decent ones are 50 bucks. Buy it second hand for like 30 or 20. It's not expensive.
>>7775694
Mogs me, to be H
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>>7775700
lmao sorry dude your advice is worthless, fuck off and leave me alone
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>>7775700
you are not good enough to be giving advice to others, wait a few years
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>doesn't even take the time to properly study a piece
>guy tries to help
>"FUCK OFF"
even if their advice wasn't that good, you are not above them to tell them off
guarantee 99% of people here don't even want to see your pathetic suicidal ideation "studies"
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>>7775707
>>7775710
It's a study and it doesn't look at all like it was referencing. Anyone could see that it is wrong. If you've advice to give to them then do so too so I don't have to.
>>7775713
Let's not start drama either just ignore this. Keep your draw up not your anger up
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>>7775664
Hmmm ye
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>>7775713
it's just that that one poster is particularly shit, and their advice is useless

>>7775719
lolmao your studies look even less like what they're supposed to, there's no reason for me to listen to mansplaining shit you don't understand
just don't talk to me
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>>7775732
i'd rather have a /beg/ posting doodles with some sort of care and intent trying to give advice then some gross person who basically uses this thread to blog about their suicidal/rape/gore ideation art
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Hello /beg/, today I once again didn't draw anything despite saying that I will and once more remained a daydreaming no-draw pre-beg. Fuck my life. Why can't I get my shit together.
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>>7775732
>mansplaining
Nigga you are a man.
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>>7775710
it's not like there's enough people giving advice to others for us to be picky of who does... if advice is not helpful just don't listen to it, it's harmless
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Cripple fight
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omg its Laguna i didn't even realize hi lagun
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>>7775735
he literally has no care nor intent other than stroking his ego and drawing breasts on sonic or whatever fucking retarded autistic fetish shit he's on
at least I try to improve my art instead of spamming 50 2 minute gesture attempts
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>>7775756
you're bitter
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>>7775735
/beg/? You flatter me.. I'm merely a humbled prepreprebeg.
>>7775752
Hallo whomever.

Ok. Everyone. Stop typing. Pick up the pen. And draw. None of this matter but your drawing skill does. Thank you.
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>>7775612
too late
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>>7775763
great work
>>7775762
henlo lagooner
my wrist is fucked so i can't draw rn that's why im not posting drawings
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>>7775763
nice cock
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ok well i'm done for today
3 high effort drawings today
i need to get faster though, it shouldn't take me this long to make drafts
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>>7775761
not bitter, just in a shit mood for unrelated reasons and then senor dunning Kruger marches in and starts waffling at me about retarded shit
I can only take so much
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>>7775763
That cock needs to be at least twice the size
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>>7775756
>drawing breasts on sonic or whatever fucking retarded autistic fetish shit
lol what the fuck are you on. he's just posting some sonic doodles
i do think he should spend a bit more time trying to analyze his references especially seeing >>7775762
but the same could be said for you. you post some rushed, shoddy study immediately hoping to seek praise and likely to keep stroking your dick for your suicide ideation that no one likes
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>>7775715
cool
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>>7775775
>rushed
yeah I did it while a bath was filling up, ofc it's not perfect
I was just posting it bc I thought it looked somewhat half decent and thought others might think it was nice
it's nothing to do with penis touching, sorry for drawing art I personally relate to but if you think about killing yourself often, it's hard, at least for me, to not want to draw it or something adjacent to get the feelings out and commit suicide by proxy in a way
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>>7775764
That's bad. Hope you recover soon and draw tons
>>7775775
Yeah. Yeah. It's bad. I draw sonic often in the first place because he's supposed to be easy to draw, I mean blocking him in is literally just doing a circle. But I always get the circle wrong and then do a smaller circle inside. I'll try to figure it out. I rushed this one so I could get to that.
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>>7775748
To be fair he has a micropenis. He's posted his clitty here before.
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>>7775782
Awesome.
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>>7775780
>yeah I did it while a bath was filling up, ofc it's not perfect
then don't do a study before then
>I was just posting it bc I thought it looked somewhat half decent and thought others might think it was nice
take some time to improve your observation skills and you can see it's not even that. and because you're trying to do a "study" before your bath you don't even have time to actually analyze your subject and put in the due effort it deserves
for the rest of your shit, seek therapy and read the bible
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>>7775786
thx, unfortunately not original... just haven't had much in me to draw with wrist brain and creativity has died lol
thank u
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Discord niggerfaggots using the thread as a masquerade
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>>7775791
>bible
not interested in Christ insanity, sorry
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>>7775795
says the person posting "muh jewish pedos" garbage, once again fetishistic content
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You must pick one
>the guy who posts his school shooter trannifesto pre-bath rapemurderkill slop
>the dunning kruger sonicfag who's at least not a shitty person
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>>7775799
what is dunning kruger about the sonicfag? he just seems inexperienced
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>>7775799
2, I find his art more appealing too
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>>7775800
there's lore from other boards that contributed to this beef
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>>7775795
Nice i'm gad this is spreading.
Abrahamism is cancer
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>>7775803
Sounds kino.
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>>7775799
I will take a million of them before a single PBS
>>7775795
>>7775806
>Protestoids
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>>7775808
it's kino, but will never be answered
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/pol/ has arrived
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i'm not reading all that, get help
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actually nvm that sounded mildly schizo
just get back to drawing pls
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I'm gonna have to actually draw about it if I want to settle the knowledge in but I think these notes will help. But I can't draw about it right now so I won't. Ok. Rest time for me.
>>7775803
Lowkey the drama doesn't matter. This person just fundamentally hates me. The drama is just an extra to justify and add onto it.
>>7775821
Your style is very interesting (This is the 39th time today you got told this, I'm guessing)
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i hate my drawings
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>>7775782
drifting eye and ear too small
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>>7775833
very true , it did take 6 minutes.... i drew it days ago when i was doing a bunch of studies and was like nah this is so shit i can't post it but it has this ugly dog charm to it
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>>7775834
then why not redraw things and post things you're confident in...why bother posting things on an art critique board if you're not going to bother changing it? seems kind of pointless to flex on a small 4chan forum
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>>7775823
thanks! i don't post these in many places, but sometimes people say that
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>>7775843
nah the critique helps a lot of the time because there's things i wouldn't notice even on these quick copies, I noticed the eye but the ear would've been lost on me I think haha
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>>7775847
ok then thats goode, keep it up
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how do i draw lips someone please help me
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tried to draw my friend's pose from memory (look at picture on the top left), just took a glance at it and drew it, think I got mostly everything right!
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>tfw will be put on an fbi watch list because I participated in threads where Paige (future mass shooter) frequented
It's so over.
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>>7775874
The most promimence difference is the orientation of the head; yours not only looks forced and unnatural, I also get the impression you only chose it because a front shot is an easier problem to solve, not because it looked cooler
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>>7775874
is your friend single
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>>7775880
Yea, I was having issues drawing how the head is in the pic, so I did a front shot, sorry

>>7775881
no
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anyone else having trouble with the capcha loading? it's making me jump through hoops to post now for some reason (by not loading the fucking capcha)
>>7775869
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>>7775834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut0ZJyCERfw
Even in a 5 minute sketch you can be very complete and precise. Really push yourself even on quick sketches, don't just excuse it as "it was quick".
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when do i reach a point where my art looks good to peopoe other than myself
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>>7775895
It's usually the opposite, others think your art looks better than you do.
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>>7775903
wait a minute...
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>>7775894
ur right i should try harder
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I will never give up haha
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>>7775903
LMAO I can't believe you NTR' gangbanged Raxav and his art like that
post more very based russian anon
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>>7775882
>no
whore
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>>7775911
ok this is better
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saw a guy here or someone larping as him with a similar style as this. Liked how he drew mouths and teeth. useful for expressions. Decided to try to copy from memory.

Useful cute style. goes in to my visual library pile in case i need for a comic.
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>>7775923
>that hand and broken forearm
so is this AI or...?
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how to make cuter
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>>7775924
can you redline for me please. is hyperstylized but I don't see much wrong with it.
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>>7775930
If you want to keep the hand then try just placing it somewhere else. If you want the forearm foreshortened and the hand in that exact spot you'll have to redraw the hand.
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>>7775940
Thanks. but I think I can make it work. I don't like to do normal poses in this style a how lot. some of the fun to me is to take the shapes and forms and see how hart I can distort them.
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>>7775948
Nigga there's no way your hand and forearm can bend inwards concavely like that, even when stylized
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>>7774797
Draft 2. Need to figure out the right shape of the head for the angle to look right when its in the proper orientation
>>7775926
Maybe a slightly smaller nose but thats really a matter of preference. Its very cute anon
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>>7775950
Maybe I'm stupid, extra flexible or failing to communicate the pose correctly. I'm trying to do it here by myself and I can do it no issue. Definitely not comfortable, but is kinda also on purpose.
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cute doodle no reference
lol
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>7775964
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>>7775964
u ok
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>>7775911
This looks a hundred times better but w-why? I am too retarded to understand.
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>>7775972
>>7775970
I CANT FUCKING DRAW.
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>>7775976
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>>7775976
just do it, stupid
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>>7775976
neither can I, but I do it anyway bc it's fun
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFGFGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHGGGG
I HAVE FUCKING NOTHING FOR HALLOWEEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>7775953
Looks cute and the perspective seems convincing enough to my beg ass when I flip it
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>>7775976
I did a little sonic while dying from a headache and having my eyes burn as if they were being grilled to give you motivation. If I can draw something you can too. Ok. Thank you.
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>>7776004
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>7775989
how about urabe
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>>7776013
YEAH OBVIOUSLY BUT FUCKING HOW.
I CANT FUCKING DRAW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>7776019
Let's all draw urabe for halloween
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>>7775956
You added a bit more mass on the bottom left corner of the forearm close to here it connects to the elbow which helps but it the hand and general ellipses of the forearm aren't quite working in perspective, sorry. I see what you're going for but both times you didn't execute it correctly
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>>7775973
There are still some inconsistencies with perspective lines converging but its overall much clearer since he's following the advice of grid anon more
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>>7776039
w-what advice?
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>>7774881
I started sketching this
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>>7776031
blog
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>>7776042
there was literally a whole breakdown an anon gave where he broke down why the vanishing points of the background didn't match to the same horizon at all or to the characters
raxav changed the composition from the weird 1 point to a 2 point grid with the LVP behind the cat witch which solved the overall issue
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>>7776044
bigger
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>>7776019
You can you did it before
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>>7776047
she's kinda smol size
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>>7776046
IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE I AM RETARDED
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Permabegschizo...
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>>7776045
Drooltist
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is gremlins a halloween movie?
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>>7776058
please learn perspective so you dont end up 15 years and nothing to show for it like cat witch fag
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>>7776084
I know perspective but I dont know how to apply it like that.
>Then you dont know perspective
I-i know......
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i hate having to give up on an idea because i'm just not good enough for it yet
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>>7776098
Just do it anyway and use it to learn from the mistakes
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>>7776100
i tried a lot of things already yeah, i'm just gonna try to practice with some references separately so i can hopefully draw what i'm trying to draw from imagination eventually
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>>7776104
Learn 3d or how to search or take your own photo ref for poses for the body and scene. That will improve your stuff miles more vaguely practicing poses that won't apply to your ideas anyways.
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>>7774314
Horse riding
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>>7776116
Horse
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>>7776118
Sir, that's a dragon.
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>>7776120
:)
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>>7776116
>>7776118
where's the horse cock
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>>7776130
The kirin has one. It's just not hard :)
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>>7776065
Don't do my nigga torulen like that
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>>7775953
Angel Devil? Based if so
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>>7776019
Have you tried doing something other than the usual find reference > grab pencil > sketch > lineart workflow? Tried sculpting, pixel art, animation, etc.? Might not be what you're looking to do as a final thing, but you might pick useful info along the way. I've only dabbled in sculpting (mostly to create specific references) but I've heard it helps a lot understanding form, for example
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>>7776091
Make up for it by making part 2 of the scene with both girls doing a collaborative fellatio threesome on your self insert guy, Raxav :)
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>>7775903
Bad perspective and proportions. The guy fucking is hilariously small in comparison with the girl.
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>>7776181
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>>7776185
Yup
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>tranny fighting with the autistic sonic drawer
/beg/ never fails to amuse me
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Done, I was supposed to look for panels showing perspective but felt like doing this one. It's cool to see more people do copy-studies lately.
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Finished the cute one, please be nice to him he`s getting used to wearing skirts
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>>7776213
Bad hand hidding slop.
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>>7776213
Very cute sho overall but his forearms are disappearing into another dimension
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>>7776222
remember anon, as long as its appealing, it doesn't matter how many errors the drawing has
one who focuses too much on anatomy, accuracy, proportions lacks what's important in art: soul
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The mistake is still there.
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>>7776213
i like your coloring, wish i could color like that
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What's with the influx of retardposters on these threads lately anyways? Someone just discovered nitpicking while being a nodraw?
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>pointing out mistake = nitpicking
No
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I hear a mosquito. it's probably nothing.
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0/10 crits
>>7776222
>>7776214
>>7776181
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Hugbox mentality. Stay bad.
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>>7776250
You are the real crab here. The aritist agreed and fixed their mistakes. What is your problem?
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>pointing out bad crits = hugbox
No.
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>>7776255
My problem is 60% of this thread and their retarded crits. I'll forgive you if you were the first quoted since you atleast didn't have a rude tone.
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>>7776258
Mine is the third one. What wrong with that? Hilarious = rude tone? You are so very sensitive if so.
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>>7776259
it's just low quality critique. I think the thread needs a bigger discussion about how to write quality critique. Possibly an update to the op.
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>>7776012
woah so cute
>>7776116
cool horse. do you ink these? the sketches are a little hard to decipher but i really like them
>>7776118
amazing Kirin
>>7776247
it's because the thread roster changed so the usual guy has to attack everyone instead of specifics I reckon
>>7776213
it's cute but as everyone else said the hand thing is distracting because rather than the hands appearing hidden it looks like he doesn't have any because of where the skirt is folding up
>>7775874
there's not significant enough overlap in the figure, try overlaying your drawing over the reference and you'll see what i mean.
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>>7776260
The artist agreed and fixed their art. Those are good crits. You just dislike the tone of those comments.
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>>7776263
they're not good crits except for #1, you're just retarded
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>>7776263
Nope. I'm saying that was their only redeemable quality. The level of critique and educational value is very low. It might as well be considered non-critique.
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>>7776264
You can't see the mistake = not be able to improve.
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>>7776266
the last two aren't critique, because they don't explain anything of value beyond vaguely. you're just retarded and prebeg
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>>7776267
So mad because bad lel.
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>>7776270
no, you haven't critiqued me at all
i'm just telling you you're retarded because you're retarded
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for a critique to be good it must have educational value.
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>>7776271
XD
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>>7776272
this
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Good crit = being true. That shota in a dress has no forearm. Can't see that mistake equal not GMI.
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>>7776261
The greek boy drawing was just a doddle, but I get 'ya, I'll try to not make the same mistake again in the future.
and as for the drawing of my fren, as I said, I did it from memory just for fun, but ik it came out like shit lol, thanks for the critique anyways, if i ever do a drawing based on a pic again, i'll overlap it so I can fix this kind of thing!!
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>>7776272
this
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>>7776276
lol I'm sorry i didn't realize both are you now it feels like i singled you out lmao
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"bad" crit is good
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Russian chad said it. I LOVE YOU !!!
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you guys are too soft, this place used to be 10 times harsher
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>>7776279
the arm is a mess
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>>7776281
This
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>>7776282
Nta, but hands are hard anon. Plus that is just a sketch.
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>>7776281
some of these people would weep at the extremity of critique i was getting even six months ago
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>>7776289
no one critiques anymore, abandoned site.
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>Plus that is just a sketch.
that is I don't know how it is supposed to look like
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>wake up, get sketchbook and pencils
>ready to start drawing on line of action before work
>first pic that pops up
do they just load anything on this site?
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>>7776293
Insta saved.
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>>7776293
bit gay but at least it's interesting, 90% of ref packs are junk
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>>7776290
the captchas are insane and only gross weirdos populate this board. you have to go through insane hoops just to get a comment from someone drawing furry pedo art. you're better off finding a stray cat to critique your work.
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How am I improving but backwards
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anything i need to fix before posting?
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>>7776306
What is with the scary flesh tube offf
to the side ?
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>>7776303
furry animal are hard to draw anon.
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>>7776116
>>7776118
Mermaid riding sea horse
>>7776261
I rarely ink my stuff. I like that people spend time to decipher my sketches :)
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>>7776306
Picture is skewed. You should have flipped it more while drawing.
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>>7776315
it should be a pool floatie, maybe i should change the color
>>7776322
no one is gonna look at it flipped
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>>7776335
>This is not how it works.
>Everyone other than you will see it flipped.
anon do not curse my drawing like this
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>>7776349
That’s kinda how it works though.
The longer you look at something, the more your brain gets used to the flaws.
Flipping the drawing “clears the cache” in your brain and lets you look at it like you’re seeing it for the first time.
If you flip your drawing and it looks bad, you need to fix it. It’s not that your drawing “isn’t supposed to be flipped”. It’s that flipping it showed you flaws that were there the whole time, but you couldn’t see.
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Man I just can't stick with drawing no matter what I do. I need to fix my discipline stat. I actually feel like brainrot is real and it's disgusting.
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Drawing tablets w a screen feel so good compared to screenless ones wtf
>>7776303
It took the same time as this one and looks like 20 times better
>>7776319
Also true. I was also on 2000mg on I Be Profen and I still had a killer headache.
>>7776342
I was going to say I liked your artstyle before but didn't cuz I didn't want to give validation while someone that knew more than me was giving critizism. It looks really cool and awesome.
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>>7776360
sure, i understand what the anon meant by telling me to flip it lol. i just made a joke.
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>>7776360
>Flipping the drawing “clears the cache” in your brain and lets you look at it like you’re seeing it for the first time.
This is the one thing that really makes me want to drop traditional altogether and just stick to digital. Well, that and the undo button.
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>>7776377
sounds like it would engender laziness and form bad habits
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>>7776377
you can do both anon, i recently picked up trad and its fun to do both
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>>7776377
just take a picture and flip it
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I love drawing on the clock
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>>7776377
Trad is 4x4, you can do it offgrid and innawoods, and forces you to be more careful with your choices, and to flip you can either take a pic as anon suggested or flip the paper over a lit window/light table
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>>7776360
>It’s that flipping it showed you flaws that were there the whole time, but you couldn’t see.
This.

Though the power I really want is the ability to be able to not notice all the flaws people aren't gonna notice on a first viewing anyway. Whenever I look carefully at other people's work, even if I thought the drawing was amazing, I soon begin to notice flaws I would have spent endless hours fixing in my own drawings, but that honestly didn't matter to me until I looked for them in others'.
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>>7776391
i feel you, i am cursed in that same aspect.
even when looking at professionals works, i noticed that i wouldve fixed it if were my drawing
its so annoying
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I've been practicing how to do headshots but I still don't get how to do the neck and shoulders proportionally to the head.

It always comes out as really small and I have to reduce the head a ton.
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>>7776395
pbs?
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>>7776396
>pbs
?
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>>7776398
he doesnt know..
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To be profen anytime I see something I think is a mistake on professional art I shrug it off and take it as that's just their style. Sometimes it feels like a cope sometimes not. Like is luffy really meant to have his ears on his neck? Probably. Is he meant to be drawn with poor perspective? I'd hope not. But I can't know so I just leave it at a maybe.
>>7776405
Does it mean peanut butter sandwich
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>>7776407
it doesnt mean peanut butter sandwich but i would like you to expand on the beef between you and the thread tranny
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>>7776411
They're just an insuferable person that gets mad at anyone that is honest with them. There's no drama between us because we never really interacted outside of me trying to help and getting called names for endless amounts of time until I reacted back and started calling them slurs for a couple hours. They keep calling me narc, dunning cookie, etc, while unfortunately absolutely being that themselves. I pray to Chrischan that their soul gets saved and they may self reflect in an honest matter for once in their life. Ok. Now draw.
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how to get better at rendering and colors?
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>>7776416
>Ok. Now draw.
no thanks, i drew all day im playing vidya now
thanks for explaining the beef. it seems trannies do tend to be that way
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>>7776411
they're both trannies, not just paige
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>>7776396
>PBS
lmao, the guy you are replying to is the sonicfag who started drawing and posting like last week and already DEATHRAPEMOGS PBS.
Proof that talent > everything else.
Same with Raxav who after 17 years of drawing doesnt have any perspective awareness.
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>>7776430
sonicfag isn't new, you're just retarded
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>>7776420
Fair.
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Who the fuck care.
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>>7776431
Wdym? The only previous drawing period I had was like at most 2 months a year ago
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>>7776418
Idk but I'm going to render mr 15 so you can feel better about your own skills by seeing someone worse than you do it.
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Found out what I'm bad at from this one picture. I never angle the upper torso forwards or backwards it seems. Original picture is beyond saving.
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Ma neck hurt
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>>7775559
aren't you the guy who deerbro outed for just tracing and calling it originals lol
and then backpedaling and calling them studies
and then backpedaling and calling them just doodles you know just funny rkgk
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Aw I left bits from earlier color chosing attempts no wonder something looked off. YOu know whats off too. My back. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow.
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>>7776466
I¿', m like it more like tjis. M,y bacl.-hurt.s
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>>7776480
He'js heo w you did g al Good Job i wo ul d k is s m
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>>7776395
>>7776396
>PBS
Pbs cant draw faces 6 years in and counting and is getting mogged by some guy who started posting last week.
Some really doompilling stuff.
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>>7776481
Rem inds me f my lprevopis tileline. Listne . my keyboard. DOESN'T FIT HERE. becaus eo f big tablet. Cna't type proper . Back alreadt too hurt to twit¿st. I feel sick rn too. I'm going to go walk around and touch cgrass to see if i ma I am get gure cured,
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>see a bunch of niggas getting many followers suddenly
>it happens all of them keep making art of the same vtuber over and over and she retweets them
>looks like a cult
that's it, if you want followers just do that
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>>7774528
Woman is good, but the male's body-torso and the penis look off.
Cock looks like it's wrapping around her leg.
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>>7776468
nice headcanon, negro
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>>7776486
I don't mean to get a kick out of your keyboard struggle but count me a fan, anon. You improved like a motherfucker and I hope your time outside gives you peace of mind.
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>>7776427
Oops
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>>7776430
>17 years
Raxav bro is this true??
Holy fuck
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>>7776468
Thats exactly him lol. The arrogant studycuck as i call him
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>>7776468
bro was eviscerated so hard it's still remembered now
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I post here daily but I can't keep up with the deep /beg/ lore.
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>>7776515
too busy drawing
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>>7775559
Traced slop lol
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>>7775561
Start talking to yourself.
Draw everything you talk about. It's honestly the eaiest thing ever and often artists get stuck in a rutt of ONLY doodling. Non committal drawings.
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Where can I find normal speed videos of people drawing? I just want to watch what they do from the very beginning without the stupid speedpaint spaz shit.
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>>7776533
try some of the examples in this thread >>7772948
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>>7776533
https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2 is the best
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>>7776533
Look into streamers instead. I don't really know any off the top of my head aside from Ninomae Inanis though.
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>>7776367
Thanks. I've burned out a bit so I'm on my energy saving mode. Those are just a few sketches i do to play around. I'm glad someones like them
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>>7775940
>ruined the perky puffies
Fuck off you tasteless retard.
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>>7774314
Wonder if it is too easy to notice which parts are referenced and which are drawn from imagination.
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how the fuck do I draw faces? i go back and forth between eye placement and then the overall face shape looks off
repeat ad infintum
I hate faces. I just want to draw cute anime /loligirls
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>>7776681
just hide them and also hide the hands too
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>>7776681
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>7776681
Can you draw bad faces?
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The arm lenght is such a gamble on this one.
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how is permabegschizo's halloween piece going?
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before bath drawing
idk why but I'm extremely jittery today and just can't seem to make my eyes work right so it looks shit
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I tried to do something from memory to see if Im membering anything and it's ok but like goddam the hand holy fuck I need to study hands
>>7776495
He kinda looks like a dbz character. That's cool. Is he the drink
>>7776692
It looks very cool.
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>>7776707
The image said no to being pasted.
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Can someone familiar with Hampton's gesture drawings help me out?
He draws the three spine sections and then the "stretch" which seems to more or less cover the front of the torso, but I can't seem to make it work with anything facing the subject straight on. I skimmed his book and some videos, but I can't find a single gesture drawing that isn't from the side to some extent.
I guess I could skip the stretch line but without drawing the contours it seems to be missing something.
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>>7776710
lmao
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Ugly? Yes. Form? None.
But I felt a flow and had to follow.
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>>7776694
Am I that? Here's mine. I was going to just do a puimpkin but idk how they actually look so I just slapped it on a buff guy. Which I also don't really know how it looks
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>>7774525
was kinda boring so i put a big snake
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>>7776743
guys and snakes go together so well bc they are erotic and phallic
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yes one suicide please
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>>7776711
I think youre probably making the lumbar and cervical gestures too long compared to the thoracic. I also dont think theres much point in indicating the spine when its not really visible in that pose. I think you did fine for such a symmetrical pose, you dont need to follow the "stretch" thing to a T. gesture drawing will be the death of me so sorry for this rusty drawing but what if you tried to combine methods from other artists?? but essentially this is how id do it. also with the ankles try avoid closing off the gesture and make sure it flows.
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Feeling especially retarded today
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>>7776617
Well the face was from imagination at least
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>>7776614
enjoy pointy boobs then
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>>7776507
its 15 years but yea
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>>7776692
Somehow the perspective of the background and the character and the background seems off and disconnected
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I don't want... I don't want to copy real hands.
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>>7776768
How do I avoid this.
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studies of the planes of the face. any advice on placing the lighting or did i do a relatively fine job??
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>The more I draw the more I hate myself
I don't know if I can keep up with this.
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>>7776780
why are u rushing?
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>>7776780
You really need to grind out lines and circles before doing anything more.
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>>7776796
Shittiest advice in the whole general and that's saying something
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>>7776768
Fuck..... its over
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>>7776754
Thanks for replying.
>I think youre probably making the lumbar and cervical gestures too long compared to the thoracic
Oh, you're right. I was trying not to think about proportions too much but I should probably at least get the spine correct.
>I also dont think theres much point in indicating the spine when its not really visible in that pose.
That's true, but it seems that the spine is the core and most important part of Hampton's gesture drawings so I thought that would still apply even if it's not visible? I really like it because if I get careless I will follow the contours and starting with the spine helps with that.
>what if you tried to combine methods from other artists?
I don't want to do that too much until I can use one method properly, but maybe it's the only way since these poses show up all the time.
>with the ankles try avoid closing off the gesture and make sure it flows.
Thanks for pointing out the ankles, I didn't notice that at all. Is this better?
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>>7776780
Interesting choice for nose shape. Not the most flattering. Just address what is problematic about the thing you're working on and do a whole page of that very thing to familiarize yourself with The Enemy. I swear it helps.
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>>7776707
>Is he the drink
Nah, just a side beverage at best. Fanmade DBZ. Not mine. He's fun to draw though. Despite not injesting anything recently made for Dragon Ball, I found myself drawing a lot of this stuff recently.



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