>If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.>DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates, howies and instead focus on posted works!>>>STICKY:>Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view>New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q>w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>>>WHERE to get study materials>annas-archive.org>>>>/ic/artbook>>>>/ic/video>>>Want to practice figures?>quickposes.com>sketchdaily.net>characterdesigns.com>lovelifedrawing.com>posemy.art>line-of-action.com>>>PYW and give your feedback>What can be improved?>Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?>Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.>Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>>>Cool teachers>Glenn Vilppu>Michael Hampton>Steve Huston>Brent Eviston>Marco Bucci>Andrew Loomis>George Bridgman>Hikaru Hayashi>>>Cool books>Keys To Drawing>Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain>How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way>The Art and Science of Drawing>Framed Perspective>Figure Drawing For All It's Worth>The Complete Guide to Drawing From LifeLast:>>7799556
I need a thread challenge... something worthy of me spending my day on!
>>7802580How about this?
Garbage OP pic, we had so many great pieces last thread and this is the best you could come up with?
Sorry guys im done with making ops, ill leave it to this guy from now on
>>7802580
THREAD CHALLENGE BACK TO BASICS EDITION
Long time no see, /beg/.
>>7802583Constructoid pre/beg/ hereAm I doing it right?
Thread challenge: Don't spam the same image with tiny changes 20 times
>>7802589thats some flexible bussy ill tell you that
>>7802595HAHA
How many more boxes to reach int?
Some fun with a pencil.Ignore Date. I have early onset dementia.
>>7802588>
>>7802594>>7802599Draw thru your forms brothers, that's how you understand them clearer.
>>7802601Also ignore light bands, The Bulb is 50Hz for a 60Hz Camera.
oops
>>7802608
>>7802613These are so good I WANT TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF.Blog?
Wip
>>7802621>>7802622it's fun to not ref shading/values
>>7802527I think the angle of her upper arm should angle out more, keeping your arm straight down in that position feels stiff and right now it doesn't look like it connects to the elbow properly.I also thought her hand only had three fingers at first, I tried to help you out with a redline but I didn't manage to do a good job. If there's something useful in there then good, if not we can just have a laugh about it.
>>7802603
bweeehhh...
>>7802583>>7802589Quick attempts
>>7802633>another fat trannyThis general went to shit fast in only a week
>>7802634>How this bitch got less tits than me wtfim not uh.. as well fed as you>If you're going to copy a ref closely why not just straight up overlay it? I'm sure you can thug out any differences that you're trying to apply to your drawingbecause that doesnt apply to anime anatomy if i just draw myself, as seen in previous thread where i got the comment the torso was too wide and the shoulders as well. i have a cursed build for reffing myself apparently.
>>7802635hey now you can call me a tranny but im not that fat
>>7802641Fatty fat fatty fat fat!
>>7802634My bad, I still haven't got lighting figured out in this place. Slightly better picture >>7802630
>>7802643>I get a baa what?>3dyeah it comes with 3d but it takes like 2 hours adjusting a model if you want the right pose, its easier to just take a pic of yourself in 10 seconds
>>7802647And here's the other iteration. Side by side I can't figure out which design is punchier and also flows best with the white haired character
>>7802651oh okay that makes sense. about the breasts i mean. >easy routeyeah i just need to learn how to draw in anime proportions by using real humans as refs i guess. might take a while
>>7802620chef kiss>>7802589i struggle with his butt o.oany advice?
>>7802633>i tried to fix it a little in my drawing by just adding the pinky and making it slightly visibleI saw that, it's probably enough to make it a little more obvious, but in the case that the ref pose is hard to understand to begin with it might be better to change it in your drawing rather than trying to copy it exactly. Easier said than done, though.
>>7802661yeah true, ill try to fix it tomorrow, spent too much time staring at it today already
>>7802660thank you. I hope I get used to the hard round soon, it's such a mess
>>7802658>>7802656i have to say it's pretty fucking hilarious how the hentai and lewd community is reliably supportive and collaborative whereas trying to draw non erotic CGDCT is a good way to get a schizo crab on your ass
I drew one of my follower's oc's, his original design is on the left lol
Should I ink this for fun or would it be a waste of time?
>>7802677Luci?
>>7802678Merula Snyde
I refrain drawing because the things I want to draw I know I will disappoint myself with, and the references are non existent.
>>7802691what do you want to draw, anon? tell us.
i hate this op so much
>>7802705Looking good but who is she?
>>7802705you mog me but ive only been drawing for 9 days so im not fucked up about it
>>7802720what character is that supposed to be?
>>7802713u not rockin wit da begman?
>>7802722doing fine in terms of progressout of all of these i would say the green sonic thing is the best of them
I've been drawing seriously for the last 8 years and I feel like my art has been regressing
Shadows are tough to paint.
>>7802722the blogposting attensionseeking is crazy
>>7802722you were able to finish multiple pieces and that's great since most other beg get trapped into permanent fundie hell.it's hard to see anything else beyond that though and it's normal, 1 month is an extremely short time frame to gauge progress, treat it as a marathon and have fun
>>7802742probably the worst poster this general has had
>>7802747nice but play around with the location of the further eye, nose and mouth
>>7802748why? they look perfect
>>7802571crumble.
>>7802747are you the famous mangafag? cool gege-like style
>>7802721what character is that supposed to be?
Turd: polished
>>7802778Merula Snyde from the mobile Harry Potter game, Hogwarts Mystery
Hey guys, newfag here, this is the first time I did more than a pencil sketch. I don't really get colors, so maybe some help in understanding that better. I'm not sure what to look for desu. I feel like my sketch is fine, but it all falls apart when I do coloring. But I'd also appreciate advice on the sketch. How are some of oyu considered beginners or intermediates?
>>7802729nah
>>7802792 people here often assume all traditional artists are worse than they are because they have no traditional experience and don't understand the limitations
when will this fuckass trans couple breakup discord drama end
people started saying I improved when I started doing digital instead of trad
dunno why she looks so masculine, fucking face blindness as always
>>7802752>what is the problem hereNot them but here is what I'm seeing:The ratio of you asking for critique to you spending time studying is very bad. Spend more time figuring things out for yourself or people will think you are being lazy. With all the resources out there it should not be hard to go several days without asking other people to spend their time on your work. Being able to self-critique is a very important skill and is more valuable than any critique you will get here.Overall you post 10x as much as anyone else and you will bury posts from people who only post occasionally.You are also often posting about yourself, your feelings, your situation, etc. That kind of discussion doesn't belong here, and if you post it people will call you attention seeking.Lastly, please put your trip back on. You have made a number of people dislike you and they are venting their frustrations by insulting you. Being able to filter you will at least give them and unrelated people a way out.I'm sure everyone has their own thoughts on the matter but if you can address what I listed I think there won't be much complain about.
>>7802576how could i tell if im a beg or a int?
The amazon basics sketchbook is doing my head in.>You use an eraser too much the paper tears>You use a sharp pencil, the paper tears>You pull the pencil towards yourself the paper tears>You don't apply any pressure the pencil and pull it towards yourself, the paper tears
>>7802830There's no such thing as Ints, Ints are what slightly better than average begs tell themselves they are in attempt to distance their decent but, floored art from the notebook doodlers
Scribbling something that isn't coom for once
>>7802835get thicker paper
>>7802576Little help, guysCan anyone help me draw a better "cheched fist" for Tamamo Cross?I really can't figure it out
It's one thing to deliberately obtain a style, to work on something ad nauseum so that it willingly becomes a habit to fall back on when you're left to your own devices. It's another thing entirely when you are stuck with the STINK of your own, something unique to your own fuckery that not only are you unaware of, but are surrounded by people who can clearly see it.>Oh. That was drawn by anon. That's how he draws XYZ.You can't escape it. Even when you do your best. Professionals can't escape it. Some claim to double down on it, but it's realy just some mental glitch and fuckup that makes it so that every single FUCKING TIME that you draw this thing, that thing, those things, your methodology will result in that STINK. The STINK identifies your sex, country of origin, media consumption. You can't escape it. I hate this shit so much.
Can someone help me figure out what a camel toe would look like in this position? pleeeeeeeeease
>>7802873I bring you the most useful tutorial known to mankind.
more gun
Drawn in less than 30 minutes feeling proud
>>7802874awesome tutorial but does not cover cameltoe
>>7802880You know what a cameltoe is right? Just draw the vagina box and slap some small wrinkles here and there and it's a cameltoe holy shit.
>>7802854I think the palm and thumb connection should be visible. I tried it myself but I still think it's a bit off.Sure hope I didn't do the wrong character or hand.
>>7802884thank you but thats not how that works, you physically cant pussy box something in this position
>>7802887Yes you can.
>>7802879Cute goat. i like it
>>7802893Okay I admit I was completely wrong, but, is the anatomy I'm doing too fucked up for a pussy box? I tried to redline it on a new layer but it keeps looking really weird.
Courier Pilot with Ulaan Transit and his 12mm caseless pistol.
>>7802876cool monke paigey :3>>7802417time to invest in razor blades again>>7802875nice work
>>7802910meth
Im afraid to draw women because it's easier to tell if they are ugly
>>7802686thanskies :3
think im gonna call it on day 9 of learning to draw
>>7802576first time using charcoal. any good?
>>7802900Might have to start over. Break her down into basic shapes before you put clothes on her. (sorry if this is unreadable as a redline; I'm a bit tired)
>>7802957thank you kind anon
>>7802830It's a vibe.
>>7802970I'll take one mille-on of these
>>7802970check the perspective, right now the length of the lower legs is very different
>>7802576Lame ass op
Quick coom doodle for tonight. >>7802970cuto
>>7802975You're right, thanks. I was liquifying and transforming so much that I probably missed the bigger picture. This might be a bit better but I'll need to spend more time on it later
>>7802985Is that an original character? Very cute design.
>>7802940I think you're on the right track. You might find this helpful for midtones and highlightshttps://youtu.be/rK9jMV-P7ok
Am I practicing learning to make accurate lengths and angles from references correctly?
>>7802817Yeah ok you people have other places to talk and ask shit on, I don't, obviously I'm going to post more than the rest, if you want a solution give me somewhere else to ask for advice in or post drawings, and no, I'm not using a fucking trip because my posts personally displease you, we're not on Twitter.
>>7803001Forgot image, sorry
>>7803003>lengths and anglesThe trace step is kind of pointless for this tbqh. It's not a bad idea if you want to learn how an artist applies lineweight though.The more you copy the better your observation skills will become
>>7803001there's definitely an improvement from 1st to 2nd, but a lot of parts are still offwould be a good idea to use something like pic related
How badly did I do? (Referenced it to shit and back and it still is permabeg garbage)>>7802970Damn, I wish I had any talent.>>7803003>>7803001Yes very nice. You have to constantly reinforce the proper way or you will never get it right.Imagine a mentor right next to you beating you with a stick if you ever stray from reference.Unironically suicide fuel.
>>7803010step one requires you to physically trace a shape around the reference so this is kind of useless if the entire point is to learn how to be accurate without tracing?
Incredible, quite fascinating actually
>>7802749naw the pupil of the left eye was weird among other things. tried to make some fixes but i'll look at it again tomorrow with fresh eyes>>7802754thanks. i don't think so, i've never drawn manga lol
>>7803017;_;
>>7803013What's the ref?
>>7803029the dumb frieren meme
>>7803031I mean it's way better than the original image, so that's a win :)
>>7803029>>7792255>>7803033I am just garbage. No need to repeat it.
>>7803035You're witerllaly spwamming right now bwo, saying " I suck" to positive advice is liweayerally so toxic pilled, I can't. Omg . Pls use a trip you're bwingig the twead down
>>7802886TyI'll try it
I got a stomach ache from my poor diet
>>7803048Very nice. Very suicide inducing.
>>7803049Please don't say that anon. I want us all to make it
I drew my one seasonal picture
>>7802615no blog.
>>7803049im feeling it tooseeing these great arts>>7803059>>7803060>>7803061>>7803019push me to the edgeim done
>>7802854I feel like you are shortening the hips way too much, so it appears they have very high vaginas. To me this is the most attractive part of a woman, so I don't want you to mess it up. Norafawn as reference on the left.
>>7803073Oh, thank you for catching that.I have no idea it is that high
I cant even begin to express how much I despise being so bad
>>7802615>These are so good I WANT TO FUCKING KILL MYSELFliterally me
I have no creative juices, how do you ideafags come up with shit to create when making your designs for characters and shit
>>7802751cuteee
>>7803049this is what i meant with you sperging out and why people dislike you. just give the compliment and stfu or dont say anything.
>>7803106I can't picture things in my head so I collect images of things and designs I like and experiment with throwing them together. It's basic as fuck but this was heavily inspired by the hot yakshi fertility goddess statue, bits of celtic imagery and a bunch of egyptiany goonslop.
>>7803090
I want to make a buff figure holding greatsword but casually (something like how Cloud Strife holding greatsword) but it looks really stiff, any advices/redlines? Changes in hand/greatsword position is also okay. Thanks in advance
>>7803135that applies to that guy too then
after a very helpful redline this is what i ended up with. is there anything else that needs adjustment?
>>7803147it looks fine
>>7803149ill tweak the hands a little. i think the body is fine though what is wrong with it?
>>7803153>There is no way those hands are finethese hands are hard. he did a good job
jannies really need to take this guy out back and shoot him
What a fucking garbage thread, constantly hijacked by the same 4 trannies seething.
Sonicfaggot cursed me with faggot elbow syndrome. It hurtsApologise
>>7803127thanks for the tip, she's cute
>>7803162Theres only 2 trannies here, sonicfag and deerfag
I 've began to draw for my first novelI'm so excited even if it's a LOTR rip off.
>>7803180need
>>7803150that looks comfy>>7803060cool>>7803019nice
Threesome with laguna and paige as they suck me off while insulting each other for being trans
>>7803177you forgot paige
>>7803131Hello? Can anyone help me?
>>7803193No.
>>7803189>>7803019Threw my hat into the ring, too.
>>7803131>>7803193i tried
>>7803195Drawing anime characters with actual asian looking faces always produces the most cursed results
>>7803197that wouldnt be anime then no? anime are those features simplified
>>7803198the problem is anon kept the cartoonish head vs body proportions, so it just looks weird>>7803197taking cosplayers as ref might be best if they want to draw the actual human features
>>7803197Because Frieren is white
perhaps i'm starting to figure it out
i was going to study loomis head proportions and like halfway through i realized i already inadvertently learned them before
>>7803185I love Umi Mitoma
>>7803196Thanks anon
>>7803224Please dont draw me doing that
GOD MADE ME UNTALENTED.
heh
>>7803178Good luck
>>7802572what was this supposed to be btw
I think thats it, my beg ass can only amount to so much.At this point no matter how much more time I spend on this its not gonna get better than thisAt least I did the best I could, I guess thats what matters
>>7803265Even if the proportions are off, even if some things are misplaced, even if the colors are wrong, you managed to convey the feeling of form without relying on lineart, and thats an enormous achievement.Well done buddy.
Made a better version.
>>7803268Where are your structure lines!?!
>>7803297you just drew me kek
>>7803268Vibes-based prebeg drawing>>7803300Constructiod-based prebeg drawingWho will reach low /beg/ first?
moneys on vibe beg
Is there a beg discord?At this point I dont even mind having to deal with 4chan schizos, and I refuse to join anything r*ddit related.
>>7803308>>7802905
>>7803268Middle right has a surprisingly good sense of 3d space and rotation for zero construction. Youre gonna make it if you take lessons seriously
>>7803319It's all a conspiracy against you and definitely has nothing to do with the different times that different anons post or are active and their helpfulness/preferences
Schizo meltie
>>7803306probably vibes, simply because they draw more
what even is that head
I want to drawabox, now where the fuck do I go on this website?
>>7803340so boring, terrible way to learn
brrr
>>7803336>what does that meanEverything you ever draw, whether you realize it or not, will be built out of 3d shapes, not lines.Construction lines are references that make it easier to visualize that 3d space, and give things like faces and bodies a consistent position and point of reference. Tons of tutorials to follow on the topic. Once you get a feel for it your art will improve significantly
>>7803177Deer is a woman who identifies as a deer with puffy cheeks
What ratios should I keep in mind when doing this?I have no idea where to place the inner lines or how much tilt is needed.
>>7803340>>7803353Drawabox isn't bad because it's "boring", is bad because it prioritizes being an exercise in misery over teaching you how to draw. You should know how to draw a box well. You do not need to spam the same thing over and over to get to that point. Drawabox is for people who want to flex how hard they are working while not having to ever step outside of their comfort zone (the one thing that you actually need to do to learn how to draw)
>>7803355
>>7803353I am telling you drawing thousands of unparallel boxes to learn perspective is not a good way to learn perspective, if you're starting out it's going to crush your drive, best way imo is to draw simple car designs and people next to them, swap cars with buildings, mechs or anything that has volume and it would be better, having an actual product to show with your art rather than doing studies is going to give massive motivation for people plain boxes are the simplest form for perspective but its not good practice in the long run
>>7803355No shes a tranny. Thinks shes a man
>>7803366It would be nice if I was one but one cannot reach the impossible
>>7803357>that looks really intimidating, and like it would just make things even harderThat's a complex example I posted. I highly recommend reading the first chapter of Andrew Loomis' Fun With a Pencil. It eases you into the concept by first having you draw a sphere with some extra shapes attached, very very beginner friendly stuff and it will absolutely make you a better artist. https://westcedarstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fun-With-a-Pencil.pdf
>>7803371alr
>>7803371>You cannot get me to care about your opinions lololThat's fine, I will never stop you from living your best life. I WILL stop you from giving bad advice to new beginners. Post your work and let's see what all those boxes do for you.
>>7803371SEX WITH THIS THING
i bet neither of you even play Arknights you frauds
>beg who's been drawing for two months is recommending drawaboxMany such cases
>he can't draw a box oh nonono...
>>7803381it's over for lil brah
>>7803381wasn't minta teaching you tho months ago
Is it beg behavior to mask your poor knowledge of anatomy by drawing baggy and loose clothing
>>7803391imbecile
>>7803346>>7803377nice
>>7803398looks like my oc cute
>>7803396bad idea doing that, draw the full body without clothes
>>7803401idk pretty sure she said she was mentoring you and a bunch of other stuff
>>7803356if you look at the image posted last thread >>7801993 you'll notice ratios won't help for most of the empty slotsyou'll need intuition about convergence so copy from the image (or from real life), draw again from memory, repeat as needed
>>7803407also the copies you were doing were digital, not traditional. I just don't understand why lie about it
post drawings...
>>7803413it counts, why lie. they're the same type of stuff you're doing now, it's in the archives. your process hasn't significantly changed
>>7803410Why? The beasts will laugh at me
>>7803419this is the thread for begs, there's a chance of some art here being interest so the more people post the higher that chance of intriguing art appearing, also if its shit I won't mock you
>>7803396not really since you have to compensate with your poor knowledge of drapery
>>7803420if you want the head less circular, lower the ears closer to the corner of the jaw and push it in slightly, also shrink the head near the cranium and lower the forehead, jaw-neck connection is confusing to explain with words but the neck should be slightly wider than the bottom of the jaw
>>7803426>gigibased but her tail looks small
We had a nude model today, I was insanely sloppy :/
i think when I have disposable income I'm just going to pay someone who's really good to teach me perspective so I don't have to teach myself
I think 1on1 mentorship is the path if you're truly struggling, but getting mentored by a low int is worthless so it's really only worth finding a pro
>>7803448the cost of a tutor is exponentially more than what a single book is
>>7803456Just not able to teach myself, need more assistance
>>7803455for basic perspective a low int might be more than enough
>>7803461People have tried to no avail, need someone who has experience teaching
>>7803458You still need to learn it either way yourself.
>>7803468I have an easier time learning if someone else instructs me through it because I'm a submissive pleb and don't get motivated unless I'm being pushed
>>7803245theres no way that bg perspective is right
15
Who the fuck is minta? Another tranny?
>>7803479Subu's daughter
how do people draw coom without getting super tired and drained?
>>7803406I don't believe you, you absolutely should be able to use ratios when drawing boxes from fixed angle.This books has the author using ratios when drawing human beings, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to do that with boxes, a much simpler shape, especially if they're all constant, like in that exercise.You might be much better at drawing than me, but I simply don't believe you.
maybe because that's their favorite subject? what kind of question is that
daily scribbleshit
>>7803485why is coom making you tired?
>>7803485coom first before drawing.
>>7803501wobbly but nice
>>7803485Because they were lucky to be born with talent
Mfw i get let into a server full of begs but my shit looks so cash compared to them that I don't even want to ask for advice because it looks like a prodigy toddler did it besides their shit
ts boring ong
>>7803471i think its ok. i drew grid first. You drew completly different view. Maybe i should rise mountains a bit. I dunno.
>>7803486you don't need to believe me, you can setup a cube in blender and see for yourselfa problem with remembering ratios (the degree of convergence, really) is that you don't have good measurement points as soon as the cube is rotated on more than 1 axisthe ratios that might be helpful are the ones for the 1st row/column (i.e the ones that have only 1 axis of rotation), and you can easily deduce them with the blender cube
>>7803501good shit man, sovlium
>>7803513-_->>7803260why....>>7802905based>>7803349cute nose
>>7803527nice
>>7803527Thx but it's just a copy from 2022. I'm currently despairing because I haven't drawn much at all this year.
i have this sneaking suspicion that most people in here are gay
you know what, i'll learn spanish just for her, como estas
>>7803510Post some of their stuff. I'm curious
>>7803445>tfw I went to a nude model class and my hands and inner thigh got insanely sloppy before I even started drawing
>>7803534This looks good, just taper the chin if you want it to look natural once the facial features are there.
>>7803527Cute expression
>>7803147When there is something you can't draw, grab a tripod and take a pic of yourself doing the exact same pose. Just imagine yourself as an attractive woman.
>>7803546This is the result of this process.
When you draw the Monitor Lizard, you might do it in one go, regardless of output. It can take 10 minutes maximum. When the body is complete, you will have an opportunity to observe your Natural Firing Order
>>7803147I'm not sure if i can read that pose well, is she kneeling? other than that, the hands are a little bit too big, i would also tone down the details on her hand since it's slightly competing with her face as the focal point which is the better focus imo, good job on her face though, she is pretty!
Anything wrong with this?
>>7803563hand too small
>>7803563the hand : forearm proportionthe head structure, try drawing the centerline
>>7802576I'm a freefag cause I'm also a poorfag but I might have some $$ set aside for something truly worth it.Are there any online websites/schools/whatever that are actually worth paying for?
I love making my friends do poses for me so I can use them as references, although this one is just roughly based on the SS i took
>>7803568save your money to buy rare artbooks or to get feedback from prosgeneric courses (without feedback) are not worth it
Remember that he's here to help you.
dztjfkvj
>>7803568>$$hopefully meant $$$ cause no course are double-digit>>7803576as long as they're a proper professional just listening and being able to watch them helps a lot. but yes there a lot of generic courses popping up from artists on places like coloso that are very likely not worth it
>>7803584>cause no course are double-digit?he's probably talking about the value of places like NMA, Artwod, Schoolism etc rather than expensive curriculums he likely can't afford anyway that give some bullshit online certificate
>>7803592For what it's worth these are all really good, slow or not
how do i actually learn to draw anything i want
>>7803605Just draw (a lot (literally tens of thousands of drawings))
>She is trying her best as the unit's duty officer
>>7803607Kino.
>>7803612best in thread
>>7803611:D
>>7803612my widefu
>>7803582Now draw the hands.
drew this and got hard. how do coom artists do it?
>>7803624>no bellybuttonCan't coom to this
>>7803606yes
>>7803607Great job on the texture details, I love the subtle wood tabletop. A couple of things I noticed: I think her bust is a bit misaligned, and considering how neatly everything else is drawn the "duty officer" plaque writing not being straight is kind of jarring.
>>7803629Meanwhile hatkidkek is still working on drawing #6
>>7803634lmfao
>>7803630Thank you! I drew her and the background separately because I didn't have paper big enough to draw her and the background in the same scale. I think I messed up the perspective a bit because of that between them. My handwriting is not that good and having to write in the perspective was really difficult. :D
>>7802583jfc what a bitch this angle was>>7803180based>>7803018this might be one of your best ones yet
alright man
>>7803637Why do they call it oven ahh sentence
>>7803648>this might be one of your best ones yetgrim, beside the head it's shit
>>7803607This is so depressing.
nice
this new captcha is cancer
>>7803670Broken back AND shitting massive painful logs?Pray for this woman
>>7803659Sorry I have brain damage from trying to perspective as a prebeg.>>7803668It is very impressive how fast it was actually. It looks like paige got shot too.
>>7803648>>7803587nice work>>7803612lel cute
Total janny victory>>7803679Good duck
>>7802576rage baiting OP pic.Imagine the level of disrespect to not feature anything of last thread
>>7803670Please reconsider how you colored that dick
>>7803546I am a biological woman and i did take a ref and people said the shoulders were too wide and called me a fat tranny lolI do not posses anime proportions
Read 75 pages of Perspective Made Easy and then drew this instead. I don't think the tie would actually get "eaten" by her tits like that, the idea just seemed fun.
>>7803705Her shirt must have huge boob pockets for that to work I think>>7803698Nice
>>7803703Hello super best friend I have been drawing the simple heads part of the course is it going well or do I shoot myselfIdk why but there's an anime girl there good for her>>7803705Does just reading work for improving art skills?
The uh last one on the left and the 2 middle ones are the latest ones also
>>7803709The heads are longJaw too longCant redline rn
>>7803716Okay I will keep it in mind for the next ones. Isn't it supposed to be the same length as the like glabumbula or whatever he says to the bottom of the nose? or is it less? or more???
>>7803705could have just ripped the middle of the shirt open
here's the lineart if it makes redlining it easier>>7803693ehhow should I?>>7803698that's pretty neat
>>7803727
does krita have snap tool like one in firealpaca
>>7803723Yes but its too longKeep trying. I gtg
>>7803733Well okay I'll try to measure better thank you
Do ya'll track your hours spent drawing? I just crossed 1000 hours since december and wanted to know if I'm just uniquely autistic about that.
>>7803745never did but i wonder how much i would have
>>7803745No.Now pyw because I want to see what 1000 hrs looks like
>>7803745noit's stupid and you're more likely to end up like this guyhttps://youtu.be/3Zrv8RXSQcU
this fuckass perspective is killing me ong>>7803745i kind of tried tracking it with steam's krita but it ended up stressing me out cause the stuff i put out is so little compared to the hours i spent.i quit at 601h and used the portable ver since then, i don't think it's healthy it sucks the fun out of drawing for me
>>7803745nothe only time metric I use is whether I feel like continuing to draw or not
>>7803765
>>7803748Here's a quick comparison. Top left is the first thing I drew in a long time back in december. 3 hours of attempting to copy a washanapple piece. Rest is stuff from this month. I also made this yesterday >>7802586 which I'm pretty proud of. I'm still firmly in beg territory though.>>7803749Maybe. On the other hand, I just remembered Oridays also autistically tracked his hours and had a lot more success, so who knows.>>7803757Oh man, if I went by time I had CSP open, it'd probably be closer to 2k now. I'm way too easily distracted.I do agree though that it can suck the fun out of drawing a bit, or rather overshadow the fun you have while drawing. Having a good 30m session always feels less like a success than just phoning it in for 2hrs. And I do think I should probably fret less about having a lot of active draw time.>>7803765Based. Also cute.
>>7803793>I'm still firmly in beg territory though.Not really. At worst your rendering is lagging behind a bit
>>7803745noI know csp tracks hours spent on a file, but I can't be bothered to sum them up
>>7803793do u fish for compliments just on here or other boards too?
>>7803804Thank you. I do think I have more weaknesses, but yeah, my rendering is very lacking. I just haven't done a lot of rendering for most of my time, so it's something I have to catch up on now. Been watching a lot of Marco Bucci the past few weeks and just tried pushing myself to do more stuff with value and color.>>7803811I don't visit other boards anymore. I won't deny that I hoped someone would ask me to show my progress, but I was genuinely curious if and how people track time. I usually just see people mention months or years which doesn't really tell you much I think.
>>7803727>how should I?The biggest issue is how dark you colored the juices in combination with it being anal. The easiest fix is to make the man lighter skinned which would also add some much needed contrast anyway
didnt set out to draw the most difficult thing possible for once and had a fun and rewading experience, crazy how that works>>7803765baaased>>7803727i never liked dark color to symbolize moisture it just doesnt look good and often gets wrongly interpreted, realistically skin doesnt get darker when wet>>7803705the idea is extremely good
>>7803821hot
>>7803106I had an idea!How about you pick a novel and you draw the scenes? that way you got infinite ideas to draw
notice how peaceful the thread is without >xer
>>7803843worst poster, hope jannies keep on top of it. Paige is at least funny
>>7803843HiDon't be mean I had a hard day and I'm feeling bad okSomeone told me the hyper kryptonite that's saying "you haven't improved" to me and I am still ruminating over it and feeling really bad
>>7803726Please check this for me guise I'm the one who liked to copy drawings of Jeff the Killer.
>>7803846you haven't improved significantly, you've improved at a normal rate. you're no nihu
>>7803852You say it with a lot of spite in your soul and it leaks through the post but I appreciate that I am actually improving. Thank you.
>>7803853
>>7803856I love Linux so this is cool but I don't get what it has to do with the post. But cool art I like it
>is a tranny>loves linuxShocking...
it was peaceful but you had to mention xer
>>7803862If I was smarter I'd make my own os like terry but I'm not special like him>>7803864Yes okay I will go to sleep now I'm sorry
>>7803745>>7803810I just found clip studio files embed an sqlite database and you can query CanvasWorkTimeI have 440 hours total this year, with an avg of 5h30m per file
should I fix anything anatomy wise? also, yes Ik the lineart looks ass. The client wanted me to use a specific pen for lineart so i'm using it
>>7803875dont take shortcuts w the feet anon
>>7803861quoted you by accident. sorry.
>>7803886no one is going to be lookign at the feet man
>>7803844paige draws interesting stuffi enjoy it
>>7803765I hope this isn't an unreasonable request, but can you share a zip of your drawings and studies? If that's too much could you point me to some things you studied to get where you are now?
>>7803890>no one is going to be lookign at the feet mannigga you decided to do a full body shot and included them. they've already been noticed
Okay I post only one more time I can't sleep because of horrid anxiety so I will say that minta should accept my friend request because I am certain she's the one shitting on me so I need to talk with her like an adult because she really knows where to hit. Let's be friends pls.>>7803887It's okay cool Linux drawing>>7803895This looks awesome
Fuck Veronica!
>>7803875>The client wanted me to use a specific penHope you charged him more for such a weird request
>>7803745No I have adhd if I try to employ a schedule or track anything I just almost don't get anything done.My most productive days are where I just say "okay time to draw" and I just do it with no set timeline. Sometimes I go on for hours at a time.
Am I effectively practicing to become better doing this?
>>7803903Least insane archiefag
>>7803912in my experience you really only need to grind rotating basics until you understand it and then apply it to drawing practical things like furniture. If you get fucked up, hash it out with basics again. Then again, I fucking suck.
>>7803912only if you fix the errors afterwards
>>7803899Here, happy? I drew the correctly.>>7803904I charged 10% more, so It's worth it ig. He also wanted me to use a specific brush too, but that's more manageable.
>>7803903dumb question because of how shitty these sketches are, but are the torso and hips facing the same direction? I'm supposed to be using contrapposto where they are pointed in opposite directions.
>>7803903Betty looks like she's succumbed to existential terror
>>7803917What's the significance of that specific pen and brush combination?
>>7803915Like so?
>>7803581basedshould have more fun with a pencil
i drawed this today and i do not like it at all but it was fun
>>7803927no, like overlaying an accurate ref and taking note where you went wrong, then fixing it
>>7803934post some art you drew please, not trying to discount you but for my own time safety I need to see
>>7803896most of the things I've done are in this pixiv accounthttps://www.pixiv.net/en/users/14735673>could you point me to some things you studiedI copied and studied many artists who post practice sheets likehttps://x.com/trytry_lsc2/mediaand I often consult anatomy books such as Anatomy for Sculptors, Hampton and MorphoI found some old studies that I did, but I wouldn't use them for learning since they are old and inaccurate... But perhaps they can give you an idea of how to grind practice sheetshttps://files.catbox.moe/85nn83.zip
>>7803925He didn't tell me, just sent me money to buy them in the csp store and the link
>>7803900thank you my favorite poster
>>7803938Wow, thank you very much! I couldn't see any posts on the twitter link but I will sort through your pixiv for a bit.>I found some old studies that I did, but I wouldn't use them for learning since they are old and inaccurateThis is exactly what I was hoping for, the inaccuracies don't matter. I just like how your line art looks and want to apply something similar in figure drawing.
>>7803745i track it with Toggl, works ok but a bit annoying to do it manually.
>>7803765I doodled this bih based on one of your drawings for practicing translating references into accurate lines, thanks
>>7803917Finished the flats, time to start rendering ughhghg
>>7803875>should I fix anything anatomy wisewhy are you asking when this is traced
>>7803970Very nice.
Better pose
Fug>>7803972Sexo
>>7803974how can you tell?
>>7803975Thanks>>7803978Looks cool, but I don't understand the feathers when his wings don't have any
>>7803951>>7803971very goodkeep practicingto improve lineart, a good exercise is to trace using a gpen manga pages in their original resolution ~7000x4000px(picrel)
>>7803990will try, thank you
No focus left
>>7803997>>7804002Nice
>>7803984sick stuff, whats it mean?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Cope
I CANT FUCKING DRAW.
>>7804025post the drawing urabe bro
I saw a hopelessly unreachable artist again and I am demoralized. There is no hope.How do people get so fucking good.
>>7804026There is nothing worth posting. Just despair.
>>7804034Post it.
>>7804034Post it and get critique.
>>7804034post it and get infinite redraws from your fans
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
>>7804040Ayy lmao type beat ong
>>7804039>>7804038>>7804036No. I have been trying to force myself to be more accurate but seeing that I struggle to even put the fucking lines down and accuracy is fucking hopeless and can barely come up with something plagiarizing a million references until I realize that I havent even left the starting line.Anatomy? Style? Lineweight? Perspective? I cant even copy shit and seeing the very talented artists just come up with amazing stuff from memory is making me feel hopeless again.I cant even begin properly and some people keep redefining where the finish line is because they have no skill ceiling.Why did god make me talentless.
Daily meltie
>>7804045I am just tired of being permabeg.
>>7804043I dont enjoy your modern twitter vernacular while I struggle
>>7804040>>7804048use shade
>>7804044Post it or leave the thread
>>7804047I thought you accepted you'd always be one. If you insist on struggling daily it must mean deep down you realize you can make it.
>>7804051I am just very stubborn and stupid.
this blue pencil lead looks so nice in person but photographs really badly. I should have bought 4B lead instead...
rendering timelapse https://files.catbox.moe/uk9h0a.mp4
>>7804055Stop being autistic about compressing your files to start
>>7804057I don't think that's the issue. it's too glossy, or maybe different lighting would help?
Can't wait until my new desk light arrives, drawing in the dark sucks>>7803985Thanks, I just hadn't drawn them yet
>>7804040This reference is not very good man no wonder you're having a bad time
>>7804003Nice nice nice nice
>>7801930
Am I doing construction properly? What should I work on?
>>7804092:(
>>7804099okay well I drew a twerking minecraft pig
>>7804075I don’t understand anything. I’m scum. I’m going to practice more
>>7804106:)
>>7803940Fuck you buddy the technovampire design is cool. My waifu Mia using her 10 meter mechanical cock to drain blood will never not be sick af fr nocap.
>>7803525I want to prove you wrong, but this cube looks kinda weird already.
Ok
critique my consturction so I can improve please. I did this in about 20 minutes. Should I just slow down and take more time?
>>7804075Add more detail lines and overlapping shapes, or it will look flatLarge empty spaces within the figure cause the 3d aspect to be lost, thus breaking the illusion
Going to have to start doing some figure drawing or something soon. It's impossible for me to come up with dynamic poses from imagination>>7804167Are you using a specific artists construction breakdown or are you just winging it? The shapes you are using aren't really doing anything to guide your construction in any meaningful way
>>7804170Stupid chud forgot my image
>>7804170I was more or less following along with the shapes Pikat uses from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK--v1cqI_0But I am 100% open to advice on what sorts of shapes I should be using
>>7804172inked it for fun anyway
>>7804167Your construction is bad because you dont understand perspective
>>7804181proof?
>>7804183Its in the pudding
>>7804186In what ways do I not understand perspective so I can improve in perspective? From my current viewpoint it's like I just submitted an answer to a calculus question and the teacher just told me "You don't understand calculus." without seeing what was wrong with my answer, if that makes sense
>>7804187In your ref the point of view is from a lower perspective, but in your construction is from a higher point of view
>>7804188Oh shit, you're right. I see what you mean. The camera is from lower down, but I drew it from a slightly higher than neutral perspective. Thanks for pointing that out.
>>7804187The difference is the teacher can't give you a simple repeatable math formula to do the perspective right.
>>7804190I get what he was saying though, holy shit. When people say 'you don't understand perspective' I just thought of it as, I'm not drawing cubes in perspective. No, I'm not even checking what the perspective of the reference is before I pick up the pencil. I feel like a fucking moron now.
>>7804191Im not even remotely good but heres an attemptthe pelvis box doesnt look right to me but couldnt get it to fit better, im sure someone more skilled can do it better
>>7804195Her proportions are fucked in the reference image so that might be why it's a little weird constructing it too. Thank you.
>>7804187If you get an answer, you will not begin to understand calculus. When you begin to understand it, you will know the answer.
>>7804198aight Yoda other people in the thread helped me understand my fuck-up already but thank you for your sagely advice
MAD Magazine artists
Some sort of AI art?
Cartman's house in Winter.
not sure who this is
messed up the exp
a sketch of a younger Jane Leeves, would've been better in Sanguine.
>>7804167Like the other dude saidyou need to be at least minimally precise with the boxes and cylinders, or you'll stray too far from the reference when adding more volumeFor example, the curve of the eyes is pointing upwards since it's a low angle, instead of pointing downwards as you did
ran outta room, should've done exp in margins
>>7804212This is beautiful, thank you. How long did it take you to finish this construction?
>>7804215I don't keep track of the timea few minutes, maybe 10~15minif you want to see how a pro does it, check thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pcwjFMrUr8
>>7802620Oh damn you bro, this looks like will be amazing
How come this cube that I rotated 45x45 in blender looks so different from the ones in both my reference and the ones I've drawn.
>>7802576What do you guys do when you are burnout? I want to draw again but I'm growing really frustrated.
>>7804253i guess it depends on the reason, personally just a while ago i got burned out because i kept grinding fundies for eternity, then abandoning that and trying to make art for the sake of making a cool picture like how a kid would draw reignited the interest bit by bit...or idk, play vidya or something
>>7804167from the thumbnail I thought you drawing was the leftmost one. got suicidal for a sec. thanks for being a beg
>>7804170>>7804171now thiiiiiiis is suicide fuel. effortless appeal with minimal linework. seen your stuff on /sex/. devastating for my self-worth
>>7802576What is particularly wrong here? Help me improve a bit more
>7804267>7804272shut the fuck up you retarded nigger nobody gives a fuck about you feeling like shit because of other people draw
>>7804243Because your reference is ass man what the fuck is this
>>7804280>>7804282^^
pls dont judge
>>7804243Different fov
>>7804297That's it!Do you recommend I draw in the same fov as with the blender box, or the reference image?
>>7804286I couldn't find an accurate reference, I guess I could try rotating a cube in blender and screenshotting the results and putting them next to each other, but the blender fov looks weird.
>>7804122>>7804243make sure that your blender camera is set to perspective, those seem to be orthographic projections
>>7804122this nigga using orthographic view to learn perspective LMAO
>>7804324Your handwriting is perfectly fine lmao
>>7804318You want it to spam calligraphy now too?
>>7804334Calligraphy contest now!
Drawing hair and fur is kind of tricky to me. Trying to make both cats in this have a sort of poofed up fur look to them but I am not sure if my apporach is working. Especially with the more humanoid catgirl on the left, as she is sort supposed to have a very short but dense fur coating that only really makes itself apparent when she poofs up her fur.
>>7804349The concept of "big medium small" shapes apply here - if you want the fur to look as appealing as possible, although it's more "realistic" to have the fur all at the same length and density, it'll read much better if you focus on having a variety of big, medium and small tufts that indicate the presence of fur rather than individually drawing each strand, and the same for drawing hair
>>7804353While I understand the principle you speak of, I have kind of hard time figuring out how to get this sort of look/effect on the hair & fur without just making the outline of the characters look a bit fuzzy like I did.
>>7804007I don,t really know, the color red seems to show up as a form of alien life, on this one I tried to use it as much as possible, but mainly it's just a study from observation
>>7804360Hm I see what you meanI'd say since it's stylised push it as far as you can by having the hair stand as close to 90 degrees off the surface it's attached to, the kitten's fur seems to stand at a straighter angle than yours, and there's rim lighting that makes the tiny hairs stand outI think as long as your pose looks good and it's a difference to how she usually looks, the fur will look like it's standingBut honestly grab some references of other stylised artists and see how they tackle this, and soak up their skill, that's the quickest way to improve it
>>7804377Yeah, I think I'll have to look up some references of how other artists have drawn angry cats etc to see if I can use some of the same techniques for this.>I think as long as your pose looks good and it's a difference to how she usually looks, the fur will look like it's standingUsually when I draw her I tend to keep her outline smooth because her fur coat across her body is supposed to be very short so when she isn't puffing it up it basically just looks like she has a greyish skin, like in picture related. She is only really supposed to have longer hair on her head, and across her spine and over her tail.
has /beg/ always been a porn general
>>7804380that's a child...
>>7804385have you always been a fucking faggot
>>7804307You're right, its set to perspective now.
>>7804389out of 10!
>>7804167I'm not the best at construction, usually just use it to check if something looks wrong. the main issue your construction boxes have is they aren't facing in the right direction. see the red rectangles those sides are facing the viewer but are completely hidden in your construction.
>>7804385nah but a lot of anons are addicted to porn these days
>>7804394this isn't correct either
>>7804420I am confident it isn't completely correct either.pls tell me which area is especially egregious. My advice of checking which sides of the construction boxes actually face the viewer still stand however.
>>7804290i forgot how to draw faceseveryday its something
>>7804440holy shit shut the fuck up you derailing retardstop blogpostingyou posted about someone's child publicly you freak
>>7804442sub muscle girl?
>>7804167its helpful if your contruction actually looks like the thing you want it to become and if the thing you draw over your construction actually respects the underlying constructionDont be afraid to erase and redraw construction lines when the final product isnt looking like its supposed to
>>7804450nope just a dude
>>7804455 talking about someone's child is fucking disgusting, you're a freak, a derailer and annoying
my /beg/ is getting infested with femal*s and faggots
>>7804453Based bichad
>>7804475nice pussy
>>7804445Where? Whos child?
>>7804243https://practicedrawingthis.com/3d-models-index/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkp1xfWJ9n4These helped me, maybe theyll help you
coloring went better than expected, it's easily my weakest point. probably because its always at the very end and I just wanna move on to the next thing.>>7804055maybe scan it instead of taking a pic>>7804349i think you could try to imply the lineart alot more for some of the fur area
>>7804527>no polish ing turdswhy?
>>7804514you forgor the triangle of the extended fingers. Try looking at where your fingers join your hand when your fingers are straight (like a karate chop) and when they are bended 90 degrees (like a fist). If you draw the palm as a rectangular box, you might wish to add that part also.
>>7804492ah so it was about me. i forgot you said those things but i remembered now. why did i even give you advice after those horrible things you said? i dont know. ill stop now in any case. youre not worthy
>>7804518>maybe scan it instead of taking a picI don't have a scanner but I've considered getting one. Would more diffuse light help?
>>7804534sure if you think so. lets see you improve without it
anyone know how to make it look good?it looks so flat and I don’t know what’s wrong, is it the background,or is it the contrast?
>>7804545its not decent imobut im not giving advice either
>>7804169brutal mog
>>7804553>racismIn character desu. also idk if you noticed but im white
trying to do caricature practice, starting with thumbnailswithout being told explicity who this is, are you able to tell who they are?(1/2)
>>7804564(2/2)
>>7804564racist jewish caricature>>7804565bill nye
>>7804566>bill nyeyes>racist jewish caricatureno lol. just trying to take into account his large, pointed down nose
I have a hard time knowing when to add details to the face. When I don't, my faces feel underbaked and sloppy, but when I do, everybody seems older than they actually are
>>7804570squint and draw the shadow shapes, dont draw anything you are not able to see
>>7804571Wow I didn't expect actual concise and applicable advice. Thank you! I'll give it a shot
>>7804531draw it
>>7804557I think of it as helpful advice :>
>>7804534you can polish a turd as a treat
>>7804167You're not at a point where you benefit from constructing a figure/mannequin. You lack knowledge of skeletal landmarks to be able to investigate the angle at which masses sit in 3d space. In this drawing especially, there's some ambiguity here, the viewer may be settled at the hips and we can just barely peek a top plane because they are tilting forward. The reason I think that is because of how the oblique connect to the hip and then the angle that makes to the ASIS of the pelvis. That angle along with the one between both ASIS points gives me a good idea of what the orientation is. It might be even flatter than that. Secondly, your construction should still adhere to the reference, at least in this case. More so be close enough to the major angles that make the pose. You lack the observational skills and knowledge to know what's wrong. You need to find a method that you can actually copy and understand what the abstraction means in relation to what it represents on a figure. Tracing helps with that. You'll be hard capped by an inability to copy though.>>7804439nta, those hips are way too short. The mark you put down for the oblique also contradicts the orientation of the hips you traced over the image. It makes it appear as though the hips are coming way towards us cause the implied ellipse is so open. If you look at the bottom of the breasts and the angle it creates, you'll notice that its heading up to the left, not downtl;drYou both aren't capable of seeing the proportions of the subject yet. Your construction suffers in part because of it. >>7804452 also this.
>>7804585forgot image. There's many ways to construct a figure. Really construction is just a tool for navigating 3d space.>>7804588Use plumb lines. It's effectively using a vertical or horizontal line as a means of comparing points or angles. If I bring up a horizontal line up to the top of that belly button mark, I can see what else lines up along the horizontal line. You have yours placed correctly, but the bigger angles and placements are what hold or make the drawing look like the reference. In your case, the ribcage is too circular rather than ovoid, so it looks like she has a beachball for a ribcage. It is too tall. Waist is too thin by comparison too. Where the obliques poke out on yours is too far too and is too long. Notice the blue line in pic related? The triangle that's making I'm comparing to yours and it takes up much less area. you can draw it in 3 lines.
>>7804585>>7804594ok i see
I drawed a scorpion
>>7804604cool
>>7804628he improved it
>>7804628even that's too big for me sorry
>>7804167since I'm this guy and it looks like a lot of people have been drawing this image to study (thanks a lot by the way, I have a lot to look over when I get home from work) I'm just going to upload the full resolution image here
>I drawed a scorpionDun-dun duh-duh-dundundun
>>7804654anon... it's obviously the original reference not his original work
>>7804654yeah this is just the reference I used I did not mean to give off the impression that I drew this
>>7804551You've picked a boring angle to draw the booth at, when you're looking at it straight on like that a lot of depth will come from details. The snow on the windows is a good start, emphasize it more and add the same thing to the ridges on the top of the booth. The horizontal lines under the roof are also tilted compared to the top of the door, they should be parallel. Inconsistencies like that will impair the sense of depth.Finally, and this is unrelated to the depth you were talking about but the emptiness of the background and area outside the telephone booth make the scene feel less real. Obviously there's meant to be a contrast between the snowstorm outside and the safety of the telephone booth but the complete emptiness of the outside world feels odd. Adding something like blurred headlights/ streetlamps to the background, and some footprints or the slight indication of a sidewalk around the booth wouldn't take away from the concept and would add some more life to the scene.
>>7804628
>>7804669thank you chatgtp
I wish sonictranny would OD on benzos
>>7804389>that's a child...
>>7803970Nice work Brian
>>7804729Why are they like this?
>>7804732it's your best copy yet faggot ill give you that, the resemblance is there unlike your past drawings
>>7804466cool, do you have more like this?
>>7804626Better than the awful original
15..
Hows the weather in poland raxav?
I love you Rax
When is the 16 year anniversary?
begman save us
>>7804762eee how you know that im from poland?
>>7804781xitter update
The Indians of Europe...
MURCOCK
>>7804783oh, i got scared for a moment lol. Anyway it's snowing like kurwa.
>Pbs is mexican>Favelagod is larping as japanese with a VPN>Raxav is polish>TS is russian>That degenerate homosexual is SERBIANWhat other surprises?
sock monster
>>7804759based as always
>>7804797an interesting thing to note is that the spammer is also polish, and following deerfag who it is is starting to become a very narrow group of possibilities
>>7804797im Albanian
>>7804805>the spammer>theWhich one?
>>7804797>mexicanOh that's why he has to work 14 hours a day and can't draw
>>780481310/10 would berry dick
>>7804822Do render it and emphasize the HIPMEAT
>>7804759terrific
>>7804822do you watch jerma
tit
help with placing booba please?
>>7804655Toasty
Drew the figure on the left with a friend, it was nice
>>7804786Good one. Kek.
>>7804843you need a better foundation to place them on! focus on placing the ribs, midsection, pelvis and shoulders firstas a test, if you cant place them correctly when tracing them over a reference you aren't ready to start drawing them
>>7804863saved
>>7804886Ass raises a little too high into the torso no?
>>7804889nta but the bones will still be in the same place no matter how fat she is, it means you get more prime real estate for adding tummy rolls, which the seems to be super tummy toned for being fat
>>7804895Yeah I think thats my biggest issue. It's trying to have your cake and eat it too. Fat and skinny at the same time>>7804889The dimples are the right idea though
>>7804899god speed soldier
>>7804851another one we did together>>7804886uweee sorry anoon... i'll ditch them and focus only on art!!!
>>7804905now that's how it's fuckin done my friend
>>7804863I'll use it against roasties replying to methanks
>>7804921tummy is much better! it reads nicely nowthe tail is a bit distracting for the shape but i think if you do it a lighter line weight than the main form and outline of the body it'll be fine
>>7804931face looks soo much cuter with the lil nose
>>7804655Sorry bud but /beg/ is Lin Kuei turf, you need to get out
>>7804912that's what I made it for anongo and make foids seethe
no?
>>7804952for lineweight i think about it in 3 passes, you might find it helpful too:first are my lines representing the shape well enough? (also consistency and line quality)then am i bringing focus to the right areas? (thicker lines for emphasis of the main shapes / shapes closer to the 'camera')am i reflecting the lighting scenario well? (subtle thickness in intersecting areas to show shadow depending on the lighting, like a triangle under the chin / armpit / groin etc)also as an aside, flip your canvas and take a look at the head. if you imagine the skull as a ball then one of the ears seems to be attached to the center of the ball rather than the side, and the skull may be a bit small (though your style looks fine with a slightly squished head to emphasise how big her body is)
Is my construction looking better than yesterday? I read through all the replies and tried to keep in mind the perspective of the reference itself, and that ultimately construction is supposed to serve the purpose of making drawing the rest of the image easier.
I guess i will leave /ic/ for some time, silly jokes are one thing but this is too much for me.
>>7804970Take this with a grain of salt but from my understanding if you do construction with boxes it'll give you a more solid grasp of the perspective in the piece, and frankly seeing professionals using non-cubes is a testament to their skill if anything, and not the easier way of doing it.
>>7804970>keep it in mind alwaysbrings a tear to my eyeit's always satisfying to look at before and after when you improve a piece a lot
>>7804976I'm not saying I'll never use circles, I just have a feeling that using amorphic shapes for construction is something I should 'graduate' into eventually instead of just starting off with it. Definitely more power to you if you figured it out though, you've likely been drawing longer than I have- I'm only on day 10
Can a 41 year old learn to draw?
>>7804982Yes. Provided they have a few years left, an 80 year old could learn to draw. Don't wait until you're 50 and ask the same question. Don't feel FOMO you didn't start as a child. Just commit to it.
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>>7804984We should practice together sometime on Magma or something.
>>7804985AAA I HATE FAT BITCHES
>>7804962you draw the boxes better but as a body construct it's not any better, idt it's your fault though it's difficult to simplify an exaggerated fetish art like that, i would start learning from a more grounded artist's mannequin then after you're get used to it go back doing these, hide's is pretty easy to understand imo
>>7804992I dont take criticism from fat ass broken spine haters
>>7804991baked and drawing fat bitchesnever kill yourself
>>7804648had too much fun with this one - wish I had the time to polish
>>7804997oooh, antlers and an exaggerated figure, very nice! i approve! any chance you'll put more work into it?
>>7804805>The spammerI wonder if he's talking about me
>>7804993you do you man
>>7804962I think it is looking betterbut a few tips are1. I'd suggest either studying from pictures or masters because many artists will either commit mistakes or do absurdities for the sake of style, aesthetic, etc2. don't stay on the same ref for too long, by that time you would have learned more if you drew a ton of hips and torsos from an anatomy book3. avoid skipping the gesture phase4. the block of the female hip can look more feminine and sensual by spreading out at the bottom like a skirt5. after you make the hip block you can carve out panties and make the cylinder of the thigh attaching to the outer corners of the panties
Anyone here likes Rinotuna?
>>7805007yesss they're a god
>>7805006>1. I'd suggest either studying from pictures or masters because many artists will either commit mistakes or do absurdities for the sake of style, aesthetic, etcnta but my favourite master for construction of anatomy is rockhe kim, check him out, his anatomy drawing class book is absolutely insane
>>7805008I got his artbook but it is in Korean.
>>7804945>>7805006Thank you for the tips, I decided to switch references to something an anon posted earlier. How is this? (mine in red)
>>7805019fuck shit fuck I posted the wrong picture
>>7803493>>7803547cute dik>>7803970Cozy>>7804349Is she yelling at her mom?
>>7805021nobody in the universe draws like this. I strongly question the people telling you to draw like this.
>>7805024pya (construction)
>>7805025what?
>>7805028please post your art so I can gauge if your criticism is valid, specifically I'd also like to see how you do your construction. Not saying you're wrong, but there is criticism you have to filter out sometimes
>>7805024training your eye to break things down is one of the most important skills in art, so yes this is necessary for beginners. it doesn't matter if people graduate past this, the foundation is important
>>7805032Do you think my construction is passable? (I did the red one)
>>7805033hm i think you can tell that the construction is a bit off yourself from trying to draw the outline of the form and giving up halfway throughi would also question how useful this particular form of construction is - the rib cage being flat on 1 side and ending at just a flat edge at the neck doesnt help you describe the form of the structure under the skin at all, or the perspective of looking down on the character in the referencethis is why boxes are helpful, and i refer to my goat
how many regular posters do you figure this gen has? I wish they'd bring back poster count.
>>7805046you did well, it's the xans talking
>>7805043What book is your image from?
>>7805049RockHe Kim's Anatomy Drawing Class, though the scans are only available in korean and chinese so it's a pain to get, plus the ai translations kind of suck, i'll get my hands on the official english version one day
>>7805050that's the spirit, good shit
the thread challenge looks fun. Will try it later.
>>7805051Thanks, that's the first ribcage breakdown I've seen that has that many angles and shows the curves beyond "draw an egg". Very useful.
>>7805068>herBased.
>>7805066i knew you were trolling dude but cmoonnnn fuck off
>>7805065you're welcome!
I've been trying to get back into the habit of drawing everyday by doing small meaningless sketchslop but it's been quite awhile since I have picked up a pencil again.
have fun with ur benzo addiction
>>7805087side profile especially looks very clean, i like how you draw fingers also
>>7805078sleep tight xanon
>>7803612look what inbreeding has done to them...
i'm an white void drawer
Still havent managed much more than doodles recently
>>7805144Same
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The lizard should be output regardless of form or quality, until the body is represented, head, torso, abdomen, limbs and tail.
Pen tablet came in :)
>>7803195looks like a troon
>>7804841Getting better at faces
>>7805125Those are some sweet monkeys
>>7805240w-wanna be discord friends are learn to draw together as accountabilibuddies
I have to stop trying to construct insane poses
>>7805330Honest question, why did you put the cross-contours on the arms like that? I get not being able to do foreshortening well when you're still a beginner, but the way you did it would only make sense if her upper arms are going away from us
>>7805335I don't know.
>>7805336Wdym you do don't know? You don't know why you did it like that? So you didn't think it was correct at some point?
>>7805338No real reason, honestly.
>>7805341I see.
>>7805343Do you think I would benefit from running 60-second figure drawing exercizes?
>>7805346It would probably not make you worse, but I don't know how much info you'd get in 60seconds yet. I think you should just pay more attention to the directions of the limbs for now and really focus on getting the cross-contours correctly. I think that would be much more valuable to your understanding of forms. If you do that for now, I think it doesn't matter if you do 60 second or 10 minute figures at the moment.But if you want to try 60 second figures, go ahead. Just don't only do them I'd say.
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>>7805358The post right above yours is a good reply.Getting the perspective right is easier when using a box, and then you can convert the box into a triangleish kind of thing.
>>7805353If you're going to draw furries migrate to /fag/ containment
This piece could have punch if I fix whatever I'm doing wrong with the arm and wrist
>>7805271thanskies :3>>7805375i should actually fuck off to /fag/ at this point also i keep getting ip range band suddenly, whats the deal with that?
when are we having a foid containtment thread?
>>7805444there's like only one biological woman that posts here
>>7805445who
>>7805477come on Pedro relax
>michigan sword drops in an hourfuck my stupid chungus life>>7805477thank you
>>7805496kek ill give it up
>>7805477that maybe be true but i have a uterus at least. ynbaw
>>7804575Here's a pretty quick construction of what i mean. If you take a look at your fingers when you do the motion of bending just the knuckles with extended fingers from the front and the side youz can notice the the fingers on the inside (middle and ring finger and the internal sides of the index and pinkie finger) dont actually "meet" the knuckles.Its a bit tricky to get down bu thinking of it like a cylinder that has a protruding middle facing the fingers is easier, since as it disappears, your bottom pads (where your fingers meet your palm on the bottom of your hand) begin to portrude outwards.
>make painting>Think it looks ok>Make another one>Previous one actually looks weird as fuck nowSeriously how can I fix this so im not deluded by my own mind? Flipping the canvas isnt enough.
i miss teacher anon and magenta anonpeople who just liked drawing and learning and sharing with everyone elsenow these threads are dominated by porn-sick degen faggots
>>7805518>teacher anonWho's teacher anon? Also neets have the time to live in threads. They don't have much going, typically, besides chan and discord
>not posting their workyou are part of the problem nigga
>>7805518so true
it's a bad drawing but it reminds me of devil man art
>>7804683>>DeliberateAccuracy 3.0 Final>>Observation Mode>Targets remain on the left screen while you click their locations on the right. This trains direct accuracy and hand-eye coordination.>>Memory Mode(IMPROVED)>Targets disappear after a set time. You must recall and click their positions from memory, training spatial short-term recall.>>Overall Average>This metric calculates your mean placement accuracy across all attempts completed in the active training mode. It resets when the mode changes.>https://files.catbox.moe/2kf64e.html
>>7805541niggas will do anything but draw
>>7805518pyw
>>7805518I miss when the thread wasn't a tranny infested cesspit of furry and shota porn
>>7805558we need /begsfw/
>>7805564It'd be wildly unpopular. Most anons' idea of making it is being able to draw a generic anime girl with giant tits.
>>7805564drawing the nude figure (even if it's not for porn) is pretty important to learn, so it wouldn't really work
>>7805518i miss him too
>>7805518havent seen Ruzzia in a hot minute either
>>7805564I agree 100%
i NEED to see what you faggots are drawing that you look down on nsfw sooo much
Thread was ruined by the sonictrannyfaggotMagenta leftRussia leftPawell leftPeril left
>>7805579Putler sent him back to the frontlines
>>7805580If you need it made it
>>7805587No u
>>7805584Peril promised me they would never stop posting.. sigh..
>>7805545so true, is everyone too afraid to post or they're too busy ranting to draw
i mean is it really that theres more porn that there used to be? Idk there was always a lot of pornAlso porn is the most interesting thing to draw lowkey
PAWELL WILL NOT RETURNPAWELL HAS MADE IT AS A NORMIE. HE LEFT US BEHIND. ITS OVER
>>7805584Total Tranny Victory
>>7805601Cool finish please
>>7805604
>>7805584I'm new to beg, what is the significance of the four names mentioned?
>>7805610>I'm new to begpyw
>>7805610The only significance is they no longer shit up the thread. Anons keep talking about them because most would do literally anything rather than draw. Now post your work and let's talk about art.
>>7805612>>7805614sure, been drawing consistently for 4 years now
>>7805618vnice
>>7805618this was my art back in 2021
>>7805624random drawingI have to make such micro adjustements when using a thin brush how tf do people draw like this
>>7805618hi kman love the one on the far right buddy , keep on posting
>>7805618>mfw i could have been this good if i only was as consistentnice shit man
>>7805628I'm australian so people are only on when it's late at night, right now we're in daylight savings so the time is even more fucked>>7805634sure I'll keep posting if it gets people inspired to draw
>>7805636it really is about loving the craft. Every time I see someone better than me I fester it into my soul that I want to get on their level, and eventually surpass them. So I study them and grind like crazy
Had to wait for a update so drew a bit.
>>7805640what did you study from?also nice bush on the lady
>>7805640yeah ive noticed too, ive been drawing this year more than most other years combined and improved way more (who would have thought). Any socials btw?
>>7805642just looking at a lot of good artists in general, I started studying dsloogie at the beginning, eventually moved onto a bunch of capcom art and then learned about bridgman which was the big changer, the way I learned about bridgman was zoomer formatted I just watced a bunch of videos about it and looked at pinterest/photo ref. I found it that real life reference useful in posing but not anatomy if you had no idea what the fuck you were doing so I just looked at a bunch of illustrated works on anatomy. There was this one anatomy book from the 90s or early 2000s that was really helpful but I can't remember the name. right now I just learn vilppu by looking at bunch of his art. My advice is to make a huge pureref or pinterest board of good illustrated anatomy images you can find and apply them to your art in how they function rather than copying one for one
>Bridgman Twice worked
>>7805643kman4e4 on twitter and newgrounds
>>7805584i miss permabeg schizo and the other one always screaming about nits and cattle
>>7805647added note, do the entire painting video course by marco bucci, teaches composition/colour theory/ line edges and general principles
>>7805649what did you do to learn animation
should i add that fuckass oregon sword
I realized today that despite my extreme dedication to never actually studying or trying, I actually want to become a technically skilled artist and am tired of impressionism Terribly jarring realization
>>7805658Nits and cattle can be arranged
>>7805660>painting video course by marco bucciis that in the /ic/ torrent?also could you reupload that notes image to somewhere like catbox so it's readable
>>7805669pyw though
>>7805647>>7805640This is making me resent being permabeg even more.Is it over for me? Am I doomed for mediocrity and a talentless chungus life?
>>7805681yes stop drawing
>>7805618That's really nice anon, hope you keep posting. I like your line variety and confidence. Just don't engage with schizos.
>>7805677Imagine zero technical skill and just idea, that's what it is
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>>7804947very nice work, are you disguising your line art or is that how you prefer to sketch?
>>7804169Those hands and clothing folds are flat and out of proportion though. Original was bad, but this fix didn't really solve those issues, just replaced them with new problems.
>>7805618>>7805623>>7805528>>7805487>>7805087These are good. They make me want to draw.
>>7805661asked for advice from animators and watched videos on how to do timing
